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>> what about jim? they're making him jealous. >> france is no longer france. >> reporter: new york. >> they won't like for me saying that. >> all right. a selfie gone wrong here. a woman trying to take a picture at a los angeles art gallery triggers a domino effect. >> causes $200,000 in damage to the exhibit. at least 11 sculptures were damaged. when a woman accidently knocked one over. it damaged several sculpted crowns and others. >> a few years ago when there was video of the girls dancing and her shirt caught fire, and everyone went nuts over it? i'm calling shenanigans on this, we'll see. there was another russian in that meeting. >> i'm more than happy to be
transparent with it and i'm more than happy to cooperate with everyone. >> i never spoke to anybody about russia. i never heard the word russia. >> this meeting is a very damaging revelation. i can see why they might want to cover it up. makes for a fascinating involve but none of it violates the law. >> neighbors of sean kratz couldn't picture the sweet kid next door entangled in killing three young men last week. >> i can't believe it. >> stop the train! >> the train started to move. it dragged the vehicle and the injured couple about 100 yards. >> it was expanding up to 10 feet per hour swallowing nearly everything in its path. at 37 venus williams is back on top. she is poised to become the oldest women's grand slam champion in the open era.
this is "new day" weekend with victor blackwell and christie paul. >> you know, the nice thing about saturday, you can stay in your pjs while you watch the news. thank you for being with us. first it was four, now this morning it's eight. the story about donald trump jr.'s secret meeting changing yet again. >> so now we're learning there were more people with tie to russia in that room and it comes just days after the president's son says that he revealed everything. the controversy follows president trump this weekend to his golf club in new jersey where he is there for the u.s. women's open. this also comes on a pivotal weekend for the senate gop and their revised health care bill to repeal the affordable care act. just one more saying no. also next week's cbo score could be a tipping point. plus this morning a new push coming from the white house. officials say the president will be reaching out, making calls throughout the weekend.
but first we now know at least eight people attended that june 2016 meeting at trump tower with the president's son. that's several more than donald trump jr. had initially disclosed. >> one of the new attendees a russian american lobbyist accused of being a super bowl 50 ye -- a soviet counterintelligence. >> reporter: despite donald trump jr.'s insis sentence he disclosed everything he knew about the meeting there were several e-mails released tuesday. >> this is everything. >> reporter: now news that the russian american lobbiest was also in attendance. he says he was in the room for the 20 to 30 minute meeting with trump's eldest son with veselnitskaya.
kushner now a top advisor to the president. cnn has also learned at least two others were in the room, a translator and a representative for a family. akhmetshin's lobbying called the attention of senator who described him as a russian immigrant acting as an unregistered agent for russian interest apparently with ties to russian intelligence. that was in a letter to homeland security secretary requesting his immigration history earlier this year. he denied to the washington post that he served as a russian intelligence agent saying i never served for the russian government. at no time have i ever worked for russian government or any of its agencies. i was not an intelligence officer, never. the e-mail chain indicated there was another person at the
meeting. the british publicist wrote this to donald trump jr. two days before. i will send the two names of people meeting with you for security when i have them later today. no e-mail producing those names were ever produced by don jr. >> my son is a wonderful young man. he took a meeting with a russian lawyer, not a government lawyer, but a russian lawyer. it was a short meeting. >> reporter: president trump defended hid son while speaking in paris but continues to insist he didn't know anything about the meeting until several days before don jr.'s e-mails were released. counselor to the president kellyanne conway seemed to suggest that more evidence was needed. >> the goal posts have been moved. we were promised systemic -- hard evidence of systemic sustained furtive collusion. >> reporter: the scramble to respond to the details trickling out may have exposed some white
house aides to special council scrutiny. they could be called to explain what they learned about this june 2016 trump tower meeting. sources close to kushner's legal team say they began strategizing in late june how to manage the e-mails discovered from don jr. top democrat pelosi have now joined for kushner's security clearance to be revoked. >> it's ridiculous that he should have that clearance. it's not justified in any way. the president could revoke it in a moment and he should. >> no official response from the white house, but we do know that top aides are well aware of this changing story of donald trump jr.'s meeting in june 2016 and of course they are not happy with the shifting details. cnn, the white house. cnn political commentator for the washington post with us
now as well as cnn political analyst, good morning to both of you and thanks for being here. yesterday david axel rod says the key to crisis communication, figure out where the story is going and get there first. clearly it seems that donald trump jr. was trying to do that by releasing these e-mails but they had come forward with all of the people that were in this meeting, would it be really that much less damning? >> i don't know, but i say this. this is a really bad situation, because the information continues to trickle out and who knows, more could still be coming from this meeting. you know, you hear about paul manafort who was in the meeting, who the president says has a limited role on his campaign but he was in on the meeting. jared kushner, now he's there and you hear from people like
congressmen cummings who's calling for kushner to give up his security clearance because it's a matter of trust. we can't trust the things he's offered. and i heard from someone in the intelligence committee who said at some point how far can this go? he may have to step down and then you have the other issues, someone from russia who used to be in counterintelligence. you've got issues of omission which some people belief is perjury. this is really, really bad. >> some people believe it's purgery but correct me if i'm wrong. i have yet to hear any legal analyst say there's something criminal here. >> yeah, i don't see where the actual criminality is yet except for the fact that jared kushner totally misrepresented his meetings on his initial
disclosure forms. he's fixing those. i think it's way too early to assign any criminality here. what we can just say is that the -- that donald trump jr.'s full disclosure has been less than full and he keeps coming out and it creates a coverup without there ever having been a crime proven. meeting with a russian lawyer connected to the government is not a crime. you know, even if he thought it was a government lawyer it's not necessarily a crime. it's just the fact that he can't seem to keep his story straight that the white house has put out four or five versions of this and yet the information still keeps coming out. so it just raises the prospect that eventually when we get the full story there might be a crime here, but i would say we're not quite there yet. >> this is what donald trump said back on june 7th in 2016.
>> i am going to give a major speech on probably monday of next week and we're going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the clintons. i think you're going to find it very informative and very, very interesting. >> now, then we had one of the president's attorneys saying that the president was not aware of this, he didn't attend the meeting. he was only made aware of the e-mail chain yesterday meaning a couple of days ago. your take on that? >> unfortunately there's a credibility issue here, and the timing is just so interesting, i would say that. there is a credibility issue here and now the problem is once you put the pieces together we have to see what falls into place and the president said it was opposition research and anyone would have taken that meeting. so you know, this president
really went after hillary clinton. he looked for all information on her. i mean, he even brought the women who accused bill clinton of different things to an event. he really wanted to let the world know that he did not think fondly of her at the very least. but i mean, so the issue is, you know, do you really believe what this president is saying when he said he did not know? and that is a real issue. it's about credibility now. >> real quickly, i want to switch even though it's connected to what april is talking about with hillary clinton. the white house now is asserting this this ukranian consultant was working with official to dig up dirt on then candidate trump. th has there been any evidence to support that allegation thus far? >> there was a little bit of reporting earlier this year that there had been some connections between a dnc operative and a ukranian representative and this
is the distraction that the white house is pointing at in order to deflect attention from donald trump jr.'s russia meeting. these two things are not the same. one on the russian side is a coordinated top down effort and authorized by the president of the russian federation himself vladimir putin which involves a massive campaign of hacking, releasing information, propaganda, fake news, intelligence operations, information operations, you name it. then on the other side you have one meeting or maybe one or two meetings with one person in the ukranian embassy and one person who worked with the dnc. it's not equal. it's a distraction. it doesn't mean that that meeting was above board. it just means that we shouldn't let that divert our attention from what the story here is, which is a massive unprecedented state sponsored state coordinated and highly effective campaign to interfere with our
democracy. >> all right. so grateful that you would both be with us today. thank you. >> thank you. >> president trump spending the weekend at his golf club in new jersey. we're following the president's actions this weekend from washington. so what's on tap for the president? >>. >> reporter: well, the president is making a habit out of this. this is the 21st weekend out of 26 weekends he's been in office that he'll be at a golf club that bears his name and this will be the 39th visit in general to a golf club that bears his name. he tweeted after coming home from france after that whirlwind 30-hour trip in france he viz tweeted he'll be visiting a golf tour event. the president is tweeting from his account, he's tweeting that he's going to this, and a lot of critics are saying that this is the president of the united states, basically tweeting a commercial for this event for
his club and this is what we've seen a couple times in the past few months about president trump using the office -- being accused of using the office for the benefit of his club. he's trying to take an active role in passing health care reform. it will be a critical week next week to do just that but aides are trying to keep the president at arm's length to this fight, but white house aides are ensuring us that he is making calls while he's at his new jersey golf club. >> all right. the two cousins have been charged now with killing four men in pennsylvania. what one of them told police about what happened. >> plus, police body cam video released after a car crushed under a train, then begins to be dragged down the tracks. you'll want to see this. >> stop moving. they're dragging the car. l.
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two cousins have been charged in the murders of four men in pennsylvania. both 20 years old, facing murder, robbery and several other charges. >> joining us live, this is a tough one to follow. it's very grim details coming out of this. >> reporter: absolutely, it is. this morning, those two you sins, cosmo dinardo and sean kratz sitting in jail this morning with no bond first after they confessed to killing four men who went missing from this area last week and then admitted to killing them.
and a number of other charges they're facing as well in addition to murder, but as you mentioned, after those charges were filed we got a look at the criminal complaint, the court documents that really detail what happened. those confessions, and what we've learned is that dinardo first lured one of these men to a family property with the intent to sell him drugs. instead he shot and killed that man and then buried his body. two days later we're told the two men joined together and tried to lure three of those men to the family property with the intent to rob them this time and instead, shot and killed them and then buried those three men in a different grave. first though trying to conceal their bodies. we know authorities have been able to recover all four bodies and at this point while they are charged with a crime, cosmo dinardo was able to strike a deal with the district attorney to take the death penalty of the table in exchange for his confession. however we're told by the
district attorney it's possible sean kratz might still face the death penalty. >> all right. appreciate the update. thank you. you've got to see this body cam video out of texas. an suv and two people were inside this vehicle caught on the video here. this video crashed into a stopped train and then the train started to move. the engineer did not realize the suv was stuck underneath. an officer flagged the train to stop. police dispatchers rushed to call union pacific. they're investigating whether the driver of the suv was driving under the influence. the injuries to the passenger are not life threatening. a giant sink hole in florida. look at this thing. swallowed two homes, but we're told this morning it appears to have stopped expanding which was a good thing. officials at the news conference
says the sink hole does appear to be dormant. power has been shut down to nearly 100 residents in the neighborhood. that hole is estimated to be 50 feet deep and full of water and it's not draining because of all of the debris from the homes. recovery operations are set to begin soon. at least three people were killed when a large fire engulfed a high rise in honolulu. five of those are in serious condition. this started on the apartments, roughly 100 firefighters worked to put out the flames and get everyone out. it's unclear what may have started the fire, but authorities say the building did not have sprinklers. well, full names, addresses, phone numbers, critics who blasted the white house's voter integrity commission over privacy concerns now have their personal sensitive information
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27 minutes past the hour and the president is spending the day at the women's open in new jersey which is being held at his golf club. as the president attends the tournament the white house is just trying to navigate a public relations crisis centering around his son's meeting with russians at trump tower last year. >> the administration's story about the secret meeting at trump tower during the campaign has changed again. on just tuesday, trump jr. told fox news he had revealed everything he knew. >> so as far as you know as far
as this incident is concerned this is all of it? >> this is everything. >> fast forward to today when we now know at least eight people were in that meeting including a russian lawyer and russian american lobbyist. joining me now to discuss, political commentator and a former white house ethics lawyer, good morning to both of you. >> so let me start with you. you said donald trump jr.'s meeting is not only evidence of collusion but also quid pro quo. explain. >> well, the lobbyist was there who is pushing for lifting of the sanctions. that's the russian objective here, one of the most important russian objectives was to lift the sanctions that had been imposed under the obama administration on russia for their illegal conduct in several places abroad including the ukraine and of course what they've been doing in syria. >> specifically against the
human rights abusers who didn't know the specific sanctions. >> well, exactly. and so they want that lifted and so that lobbyist shows up there and so does this lawyer who's got the dirt on hillary clinton or says she does and apparently they brought documents. it's quite clear what the deal is, that the russians want and the trump people should be calling the fbi in, they shouldn't be going to this meeting. this is basically a bribe, an offer of this assistance to the campaign, the dirt on hillary clinton in return for promise of official action once president trump is elected if he wins the race and this is a very, very problematic situation. the white house needs to stop lying about it. this is obviously collusion. there's no way around that. >> andre, your response? >> they shouldn't have taken the meeting. i mean, maybe a distant campaign
worker but not those high profile individuals. they shouldn't have done it. however, i don't see collusion. most of the folks in the meeting didn't stay long once they realized this information was not really anything usable and it was a waste of time, but it is a continual drip and it doesn't help the president with his message. i think the president need to have a press conference, give everything he's got and move forward because it is keeping him from delivering so many -- well, the message to the people what he's delivering on and this is definitely not helping the situation for him to continue to push his message and continue to push congress to pass things like health care reform. >> beyond the question of ethics and whether it was a smart decision to even take the meeting, do you see that this -- i guess this additional list of attendees at this meeting puts them any closer to possible illegality? >> well, there are a whole range of different legal problems.
we don't prosecute treason under the treason statute under the constitutional provision when we're not at a time of war, very rarely do, but when you have foreign government assistance of political campaign that violates campaign laws, there's computer hacking laws, with respect to a lot of the information that the russians obtained, of course the false statements, they lied about their contacts with the russians, several of these people now working for the united states government. and i think -- i've been a republican for 30 years. they say this isn't collusion. our prior history with the communist party, we cannot accept this. this is collusion. we've got to stop lying about it. the president needs to disclose any and all of the meetings with the russians so we can move on as a country. but the lies are not helping. >> so does this reach the level
of -- as the group submitted a violation of campaign finance suggests that this constitutes soliciting from a foreign national something of value? does this reach that level for you? >> i don't see that and again, they didn't solicit them, these individuals came to the trump campaign. they didn't go out looking for them and there are other questions as well. how did this individual get clearance to get into the country? how did they get into trump tower and the media not happen to catch them? a lot of things in there and what was the purpose of her being in the country? i know she was given some special provision. >> donald trump jr. invited them in. i think that's the easiest question to answer. >> well, again, there are a lot of questions for me i still go, why and i don't fully understand it but i think they need to air it. i think they need to get it out there in public and move on because it is dominating the news cycle and it is dominating
the agenda even though they are getting a lot done. the public really isn't getting to know what's happening because this has just consumed the news cycle and so i hope they'll address it quickly and swiftly. >> we've got this and more to talk about. thanks for being with us and stick around. we've got more questions after this quick break. and the white house just revealed some personal voter information and they did so online. we'll tell you what's happening with that. also new video released of firefighters driving into flames to save children at a summer camp. protein it's intelligent nutrition with 15 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink.
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we're back to discuss the latest on the trump campaign's meeting over the 2016 elections. let me start with you, richard on something that yahoo news is reporting is that the president's lawyers knew about this meeting between donald trump jr. and paul manafort and five other people. they knew about it three weeks ago. the president says he learned in just the last few days. is it possible that his attorneys would not have looped him on in this to protect the president? >> i think any competent attorney would have informed their client about this type of thing. it's very important for the client here, president trump to know the facts before he starts talking or tweeting, and while he hasn't been tweeting
recently, he certainly has in the past and we do not want to have the president of the united states out there not knowing the essential facts. this meeting though, i think the trump campaign lawyers probably knew about last june when it happened. because there are serious legal implications when outside groups proposed meetings with campaign staff. you probably violate coordination laws if this had been a group run by karl rove or some other american or any guy with the campaign to coordinate with the campaign much, much more of a problem. i think the lawyers of the campaign were well aware of this and probably donald trump back in june when this happened. >> there's no evidence at all that the president knew about the meeting before he says he knew about it or then in june what happened in 2016. andre, to you, there have been this increasing number of calls
from democrats on the hill to revoke jared kushner's security clearance. we know that his form has been amended several times now adding 100 contacts with people from at least 20 countries? if this clearance was given based on that information and the information changes, is that revocation something that should be considered? >> well, everything should be considered. i think the democrats are putting a lot of eggs in one basket. athink they may be missing the boat. i think if you look back at the clinton investigation and look back at nixon, there are missed opportunities where they are not moving their party forward and i think they may look back at this and think they may have come up with a message because right now the only message is russia and this is the only thing i have
seen that gives the russia investigation any -- i'm sorry. go ahead. >> that doesn't validate the question of whether or not the revocation of his security clearance should be considered. to you, richard, do you think it should be revoked? >> well, obviously, and of course we should focus on issues. i'm a republican. i'd like to see the republicans focus on health care and a wide range of different issues but i remember what happened with nixon and the republicans who stood by nixon to the bitter end and it was blood bath for the republican party. this is a disaster. if we continue to accept lie from this white house, it's going to destroy the republican party. the problem isn't the democrats. the problem is, do we have integrity in our political system and as a republican party are we going to stand by and ignore collusion with the russians and continue to defend this and continue to defend the lies? and we can move forward on health care and a wide range of
other issues without lying about collusion with the russians. >> andre, let me get to one of the issues. the president as a candidate, you remember the chant build that wall, build that wall. we heard from the president on air force one this week and i want to read for you what he said, because i'm confused by it. he says here about the wall that it needs to be transparent, it says as horrible as it sounds when they throw the large sacks of drugs over and if you have people on the other side of the wall you don't see them. they hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff, it's over. what does that -- what does that mean? >> you know, i didn't hear his -- >> that's a quote. that's what he said. >> i don't know exactly what he meant. as long as he's coming up with a way to protect our southern border i'm happy about it. i'm not as concerned with specifics as i am actually delivering the american people where there is opportunity for
the people to cross the border illegally we need to stop that. i don't care what the design looks like. >> but the people who voted for him care because they wanted a wall. the president was very specific about saying a wall. he says that you have to be able to see through this wall. in other words, if you can't see through the wall, you could -- it could be steel with openings but you have to have openings because you have to see what's on the other side of the wall. a wall with openings you can see through that is a fence. i mean, the president promised a wall. now he's calling for a wall you can see through because people can throw 60 pounds of sacks of drugs over it. >> he may have some information that it says this is a better way to build a wall. i don't think that most americans that wanted to see the wall are as -- especially concerned with how the wall is built. they just want the wall. they want something that stops people from coming over illegally and we have a correct screening process. what it looks like, what it's able to deliver, i think the
most important thing is does it stop people that are a threat to our safety. >> thanks so much. >> i'll just remind people that that the chant was build that wall, not build that barrier. all right. thank you both. well, the trump administration's election integrity commission is attempting to respond to concerns over potentially releasing sensitive information of voters. they just released some personal information of likely voters. last month they asked for a complete list including name, party afill yagts, addresses. the last four digits of social security numbers. while some e pressed concern that their information would be made public. the commission then posted those e-mails online and several did contain sensitive information including addresses.
as of this morning that personal information is still active online. still intact there. well, in a few hours venus williams is going to try to win a sixth wimbledon singles title. this of course as she's facing challenges off the court as well. >> all right. here in the u.s., a drug ban, kissed off. >> olympic gold medalist was suspended in may for failing a drug test but it's since been overturned and you're never going to guess why. the answer coming up in this morning's bleacher report. it's not a quick fix. it's my decision to make beauty last. roc® retinol started visibly reducing my fine lines and wrinkles in one week. and the longer i use it, the better it works. retinol correxion® from roc methods, not miracles.™
just a few hours away now 37-year-old venus williams is going to try to make history and win her sixth wimbledon singles title. >> she will be overcoming personal challenges to do it. we're joined by cnn tennis contributor, a man who knows a little something about winning at wimbledon having won the championship himself. pat, good morning to you.
and just one big match today, women's final. what are venus' chances today? i know she's got a lot of support there. >> reporter: well, she's got a great chance. i mean, it's hard to believe that it's 12 years after my what i believe was the greatest women's final of all-time and defeated fellow american lindsey davenport in an outrageous match. and here 12 years later i think she's favorite, vast experience over her spanish opponent garbine muguruza, been a final and winner here. i think it's a great chance. it's going to be nip and tuck. it really is. it's very hard to pick who's going to win this title. the big difference of course is experience. i also think net play where venus and her sister serena certainly the most competent singles players of the modern era around the net and garbine
struggles a little bit. and they'll have to be some net play today. but garbine is hitting the ball very, very hard, very, very flat. she's full of confidence. she's got a big serve. which is all the same stuff we know about venus. but i think there's a few unknowns and that is how muguruza will play under the pressure. but she's experienced and also, you know, how venus' forehand is going to hold up. i think it will be -- it's very, very tough to pick, but i think certainly venus will be the crowd favorite. >> all right. and going through a lot. i can't even begin to understand the pressure they're under. pat cash, good to have you with us. thank you so much. >> okay. so remember lockty gate? well, an appeals court in brazil has cleared the swimmer ryan lochte. >> andy scholes has more with
just a slight chuckle. >> only because we talked about this so much at the end of the olympics last summer. you know, lochte of course he started this whole firestorm when he said he was robbed at gunpoint in rio. lochte later admitted greatly exaggerated that story. turns out lockheed and teammates vandalized a bathroom, were stopped by a security to pay for the damages flt according to a report the judges in brazil they dropped the charges because lochte's interview with nbc news where he originally said he'd been robbed, it did not constitute a false police report. lochte was set to return to usa swimming competition this week for the first time since his ten-month suspension, but he reportedly withdrew from this weekend's invitational saying he hadn't trained enough due to the birth of his new son. olympic gold medalist gill roberts suspended in may for a failed drug test, but get this. his suspension has been overturned because he proved that he failed the test because he had been frequently and and passionately kissing his girlfriend. apparently that can cause a failed test because according to the evidence in the case
robert's girlfriend was taking medication for a sinus infection. she kissed him, shortly after that he was tested and failed the test. lesson learned here, if you're in the olympics, don't kiss anyone on any kind of medication. finally trending number one on bleacher report this morning, most fans throw opposing home run balls back on the field. not in pittsburgh. look at this guy, immediately turns around and chucks it into the allegheny river. wa an arm, first of all, second of all, he must have had this planned all along that he was going to be catching a home run ball. >> looks like he's sitting there going don't bother me. >> i know. no one sitting right next to him so maybe this guy was in a bad mood the whole day. look at this. instantly gone. >> he'd been planning that since he was a boy. >> probably. for years. and i kissed someone who was taking medication, so that's why i tested positive? >> hey, it worked. the arbitrators overturned it. >> thank you so much, andy.
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i don't know if you know this, but even with years of intervention and tutoring, people with dyslexia can still struggle so much with reading and writing. but a growing list of smartphone apps and off the shelf technology are really helping to level the field. cnn health writer jacqueline howard looks at how in this teching care of your life. >> reporter: cole harvey and his brother steven have dyslexia, a learning disability that makes reading and writing very hard. >> i felt like everybody was smarter than me. and when technology came in i was able to compensate. >> the school systems are having students bring their own technology to the classroom so students can put apps on it that really works for them. >> reporter: apps like book
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