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♪ ♪ i'm michael in philadelphia, and welcome the viewers in the united states and around the world. what a week for people name donald trump. not long after we learned that trump golf clubs had fake "time" magazine covers featuring trump senior hung on the wall, a realtime cover was published donald jr. wishes were fake. the e-mail trail on trump jr. proves willingness to collude with russia. >> they tell us there's nothing to this, nothing came of it, nothing, why is it lie after lie after lie? >> but as i'm about to document,
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others couldn't care less, and with all the concern and outrage over russia meddling in our election, how much has the u.s. acted similarly? one researcher's answer may shock you. plus, performing the summer's biggest rock concert tours and lacing it with angry anti-trump imagery and prelimics. we'll ask roger waters if the fans want to hear that or just the music. ♪ first, i began this year by pledging right here on cnn that i wanted to escape my bubble more often. the election results, they took my by surprise, and i was feeling disconnect the. well, this weekend, i got more than i bargained for from my own radio audience. there was a succession of significant stories published in the "new york times" about a june 9, 2016 meeting in trump tower, attended by donald trump
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jr., jared kushner, and others. as i updated the radio audience ov on the developments, i'm careful to balance the perspective with balance from the right. on monday after the new summary, phone lines filled. the first call was said i should be ashamed of myself because i spent time on the latest bomb shell from the "new york times" not j wiwithstanding i had anot view. the first caller from iowa was brad. >> keep kicking the dog, maybe it'll wake up. >> do you find it significant that the president's son took a meeting with a russian national where the promise was, we are bringing you dirt on hillary. significant or not? >> big deal? no, not at all. who cares about dirt on that old hag as a hillary.
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>> that's not typical. my callers come from the lower 48 and represent a nice cross section of the country, both racially and politically, but to my surprise, the next caller from vermont basically agreed with brad. many on hold wanted to castigate the president and his son. instead of taking their calls, i did something i'd never done in 27 years of radio hosting. i cleared the call board, and i requested only callers who agreed with the first two, and the results were eye and ear opening. i discovered a huge number of others also main taping it was the proverbial nothing burger. take a listen. >> caller: cnn, new york times, post, these guys have zero ounce of credibility. i say zero, negative zero, they are horrible. >> to me, get so in the weeds with some of these stories that it's just disinterests me after a little while, so even if it's true, that's fine, eventually,
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didn't affect my vote at the ballot box. >> it is an important worthy storyings but give it the time it needs, and then move on. >> at this point, it just seems like a witch hunt after president trump. >> only thing i'm angry about trump is he's not arrested that witch yet. she should be in cuffed. you're an establishment [ bleep ] that's all you are, you're a piece of [ bleep ]. >> that last part, by the way, directed at me, i'm the establishment, a, and, well, you heard it. and so if you think the donald trump jr. story is the one that changes trump supporter minds, you might want to think again. my experience reminded me of candidate donald trump saying he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose his base. these voices were a revelation to many who don't hear them on the go-to news outlets. there was a facebook montage of the audio of the callers to share the thoughts with the world, and it quickly racked up more than 100,000 views in less than 48 hours.
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just to recap, here's what all nose callers deemed to be unimportant. over three days, the "new york times" drill down on the story of donald trump jr., paul, and jared meeting with the russian lawyer. first, meeting denied. then a false reason for the meeting was offered. the discussion of adoptions of russian infants. then, timely, times called to tell jr. they were going to publish the e-mails, and he released them himself. they revealed that at a minimum, he was game to collude with the russians. who could have imagined that there would be an e-mail to somebody named trump offering, quote, very high level and sensitive information, able to, quote, incriminate hillary as part of, quote, russia and government support of trump over hillary. not even these revelations impact his standing with the base. joining us now, matthew rosenberg of the "new york times" part of the on going terrific reporting of this, and
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selena, the trump whisperer who writes for the "washington examiner" and "new york post" coauthoring a book about why trump won. matthew, does that frustrate you to know your hard work and that of the colleagues in some instances falls on deaf ears? >> no. i mean, i think that's kind of the nature of the beast here. people are not always going to agree. and i do hear people when they say, well, why is this important to me? look, you're going to go to work tomorrow, bills to pay, kids go to school. this does not change your life immediately. those people who are concerned or don't think this has real importance, that, you know, it's not just dirt on hillary clinton or dirt on a political opponet. we don't want or we don't have, i guess, allowances to have foreign government feed information and provide resources to political campaigns, which we don't want foreigners playing a role in our elections. same reason why you can be a citizen to vote. you can't wash up in the u.s. and vote today. you have to be a citizen.
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these e-mails really do establish more than anything else a direct line to the trump family, to the inner circle between them and the russian government saying, look, we want to help you. how far did it go? we don't know. that's the thing. there's a lot we don't know here, and one of the callers who you cited as being on the show, said, you know, this needs time. she's absolutely right. these investigations could go on for years, but it is something that i think we should be concerned about, and i guess the last point, most important points is that this interference, attempt to headle in the election, yes, it happened last year, it will keep happening, and people will learn from their mistakes r and how you learn and you learn to stop it is by studying what happened in the past by investigators, and i think that's one of the reasons why people should be concerned, yes. >> selena, you know the constituency. is it they stand with the president of the united states, or that they are anti-trump, and does it matter? >> well, i think the thing that
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we need to maybe think about and explore deeper going forward is, is this distrust that the american people have with big institutions, but also with media? this is something that has been ongoing. the last time we had a broad trust with the media was 1964, right? 78% of the people trusted government, trusted the media. that's just cratered since then, and it's in the opposite, you know, sort of flipped around. and, so, it's -- it's not just that they firmly, you know, are not going to be dislonged from trump, it's also that they view us with a lot of skepticism, some of that is deserved. some -- most of it is not, but i think that that's the thing that we need to, honestly, we need to address that because the -- the american people should have much more level of trust with the people that are the, you know, who are guarding and digging
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into the greater powers in the country. and, you know -- >> let me tell you what i think -- >> go ahead. >> i don't think it changes, no disrespect to matthew and the times, but it doesn't change when the times has a revelation on the front page. it changes when those mouthpieces for the right, to which leadership of the republican party has been advocated, when they start to take a serious look at what matthew and his colleagues are reporting. for example, i showed a snippit of it. this is from fox news yesterday. roll this. >> this really shouldn't be a matter of liberal versus conservative, pro-trump against anti-trump. if you're a fair-minded citizen, you ought to be concerned about the fact that we were repeatedly misled. they say there's nothing to this, nothing came of it, not memorable, didn't write it down, didn't tell you anything, i don't remember it, why all the
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lies? why is it lie after lie after lie? >> and maybe you say, well, shep, unlike the others, step outside the box from time to time. put up on the screen, katherine, crowdhammer's syndicated column from the "washington post," the first line, the evidence is now shown, this is not here say, not fake news, not unsourced leaks. this is an e-mail chain released by donald trump jr. himself. when it's the shep saying, hey, this times' reporting, substantive, maybe the base reconsiders or not do they recover? >> there's a percentage who vote identi identity. they do not shift or change. there's a tremendous amount of americans who are fairly horrified to know that a president -- the president now, if he did or if anyone close to him did work with the russian government to secure the
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election, even if no effect, it's hard to know in that's the case, so, yeah, i think these things have an effect overtime. you're absolutely right. the "new york times" are not the people who immediately say people say, oh, wow, changed my mind. it's coming when their own commentators they look to for guidance say, hey, you know, you got to pay attention to this, there's a problem here. >> hey, i don't want to focus only on the media. let's also take note of the fact that although i think this was an enormously significant week, the republican leaders in the house and senate have largely been silent, much in the same way that those callers from the base were reacting to me. what do you have to say about the gop leadership on this? >> i think the gop leadership is in a really terrible position, right? because, you know, if you vet -- if you drill down and look at the numbers of where trump won and where he won big, you knows that's in their districts r a, so there's a political price to
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pay as do you step out in front of this? do you stand back? i think that you're -- the caller, the female caller who said this is important, and we should -- but we'll give it time, i think -- i hear a lot of that not just from regular voters, but i also hear that from people who are inside washington people part of the establishment, people who are elected officials. one thing i want to point out that i find fascinating is the amount of people who didn't vote last year, you know, found both of them sort of, you know, repulsive, they -- they tend to cheer trump on when he has a problem with the media, when these kinds of stories come out, and i find that, you know, part -- fascinating, like, we really have a problem that we have to take on. >> matthew, final question for you. as i read carefully the stories up fold, i wondered, did the
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times have the trump jr. e-mail all along, did you reveal only a little, and almost set a trap for him to come up with that adoption story, and sort of, frankly, dig his own grave politically speaking? >> you know, i wish we were that savvy. i can't tell you exactly how the story unfolded, what we had when, who we got it from. my colleagues have been working on the story, and i think, you know, it really highlights the fact that there's an e-mail out there. there are -- this has been in the news for months. this has been an issue for months. there were multiple opportunities for paul, jared, and for donald trump jr. to say, hey, you know, we had a meeting, here's what happened. this is why i don't think it's a big deal. nobody ever did. then the transparent moment when donald jr. said i'll publish the e-mails. that was done that morning the "new york times" called them, say, we have the e-mail, we're printing it, going to publish
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it, and then somebody in the white house became transparent. that was not a kind of self-awareness, oh, i'm going to have a moment to become transparent. it was in response to the fact things were about to be published, and i think that's something people -- >> okay. i think you're saying -- i think you're saying the times did not have the e-mail when last saturday you dropped the first story. that's what i'm hearing? >> i can't say one way or another. i really can't. i hate to pull an fbi or cia thing here, but it's just one of the things on the internal reporting we don't get into. we publish what we know when we know it. i can say that. >> okay. i hear ya. it's a part of the story i'm eager to learnment thank you. selina, thank you, appreciate it, matthew. what are your thoughts, i'll read responses throughout the course of the program. what do you have, gang? >> it's just wild. these callers sound like they were brain-washed from a cult and refuse to believe the evidence before their eyes and put on blinders with trump. >> jennifer, i didn't go to the
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callers to be exposed to the mind set. i'm a butter knife away at family gatherings from this thought process, but it's a wakeup call for those of us reading all the revelations, the time, the post, here at cnn, mied gmy mied god, this is significant, 46% of the people in the country say hogwash. one more if we have time. >> i'm glad you took the calls, michael, ultimately does no good to ignore people with differing views. i like to hear from all points of view, even the guy who called me -- you heard what he called me. up next p roger waters, formally a pink floyd, back on the road staging one of the most successful and controversial summer concert tours. do his fans want to hear and see his anti-trump message? i sat down with him and asked what's up. ♪ ♪ here you go little guy.
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there have already been intense culture war over the presidency of donald trump. kathy griffin, staging of shakespeare in central park and even steven col been jebert. roger waters, a founding member and chief leer cyst of pink floyd is back on the road e this summerment i personally enjoyed his music for 40 years. his politics? sometimes not. waters amped up the volume, turning the world's biggest tours into the most political. several portions of his us and them show in support of his new album, "is this the life we
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really want," are as much anti-trump rally as rock concert. take a look. ♪ this has donald trump's face on the side, screens display images of the president vomiting with putin as a big baby, and as hitler. he's turned the 1970s pink floyd animals classic pick pigs three different ones into a diatribe against the charade he says in the trump white house. there's no debate about the impeccable quality of the sound or the production values of the waters' tour, but the message has taken some by surprise. in new orleans, a few fans simply left, and according to waters, a major corporate sponsor pulled out in the states, although maintaining its commitment in canada. in 2006, i, myself, was unsettled watching him perform.
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the famous pink floyd pig circled over the crowd with a message about prisoner rights at gitmo. three miles from ground zero, i was no mood for that nine years after 9/11. 15 years after 9/11? i had to admit he had a point. waters is defiant in defense of his music and message, not with stanning the way music harmed other entertainers. remember the dixie chicks. when i flew to miami to interview him and watch the show, another charge occurred, the charge of antiseven niche. they took out an add in the miami say reading this is in the welcome in miami. waters says, his criticisms are political, not religious. he has drawn ire as israel bds supporter, and he's lobbied performers not to play in israel, and he's regarded the israeli treatment of
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palestinians as a par tide. on this tour, however, his performance is silent on that issue, training his base guitar instead on donald trump. back in 2013, he illustrated the pig with a star of david alongside a dollar sign and sickle and hammer. i was invited to a thursday night rehearsal in miami to witness a dozen local teens from the miami beach parks summer program rehearse another brick in the wall with waters, but at the last minute, the city pulled the plug on their participation. in the end, other kids did perform the song, but not those who had been eagerly rehearsing. i asked roger waters about the chargers. >> i've been flooded with facebook comments that said, why are you giving a platform to waters, the antisemite. to those people you say? >> i'm not appty semite,
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obviously, it's as plain as your face. i'm not. i've never done anything. what i have done is i've become an activist to try -- this is what i say to these kids, right, and informed local officials and informed campaign of malicious propaganda, which it is. calling me an antisemite is malicious propaganda. they want to silence my voice. because my voice speaks to the nonviolent loving resistance to the oppression of an oppressed people. >> now more of my exclusive sit-down with roger waters. ♪ let's talk about this leader we legislated in the united
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states. speak to the audience. tell them the mind set you put into the presentation of pigs three different ones. >> we were running up to that election, and i did feel very strongly about it. and much as i disparage hillary clinton, and i do, i think -- and however big the questions are that i might have had, you know, with obama and post after administration, donald trump, i watched this guy operating for the last 20 years. >> do you run the risk of helping him by going over the top? >> no. he -- i don't think helpful hindering -- when what we need to survive his presidency -- >> right. >> because it's totally up predictable, but i don't think he knows what he's going to do. >> i'm thinking of a few cultural touch stones recently, thinking of the kathy griffin isis inspired photograph she tweeted. i'm thinking of the caesar play
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in central park, and it occurs to me that it plays into his hand in so far as he says, liberal intentertainers and establishment is against me. in so far as criticism never ending, he's inoculated from it. >> maybe. this is the responsibility that you in the mainstream media have. it's to not allow this to be taken as seriously as it is. i mean, i've sort of stopped watching all the talking heads about russia, this, that, and the other, because it seems to me, largely irrelevant. there's a larger picture we could maybe, and all the folks, you know, the problem is the entertainment has got mixed up with news, a lot in this country. in consequence, you got to keep -- i'm not pointing a finger at you. i mean, i -- but in general, my general sense is that everything has to be entertaining, and in consequence, donald trump's great for the mainstream media
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because he's such a monkey -- >> any line you won't cross putting to the the tour? >> of course, i would never be violent in any way. you know, my activism such as it is and my protests is always nonviolent. >> now you're a third of the way into the tour, how is it playing in the red states? >> great, you know, the first, four, five gigs we started in the city, louisville, tulsa, st. louis, and now it's like -- that was a kind of, woah, i wonder how this is going to be. >> sitting heerks a inting here someone on the road, selling records, putting fannies in seats, you're unconcerned how that's received by the very people you wish to reach? >> i'm not unconcerned at all. i'm -- >> commercially concerned. >> in life, you have to make good choices to whether you do
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the right thing or the thing that makes you the most money. >> you managed to do both. >> well, who knows how much money i would have made if i had not made a fuss. >> do you think it's cost you? >> i have no idea. it cost american express pulled out with its tour, that cost $4 million. that's the short term thing. mind you, they are still sponsoring the tour in canada. it's not the whole corporation. it's, like -- >> roger, is it important to you that your fans, a, understand the message of your music, and, b, that they agree with it? >> well, it's very important it me, and that's why the beginning of the tour was done good so far, is so great is that people are getting it. >> to that person who grew up loving the music, who doesn't share your world view, do you still want to look into the audience and see them at this concert? >> you know, we have maybe ten leave every night, and they go,
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i mean, i, you know, i read the troll stuff on my web page from time to time, and i sort of go, you know, this is no big surprise, to me, but i do find is slightly surprising that anybody could be listening to my songs in 50 years without unstanding. ♪ >> what would you say to someone who is looking for escapism, that they not coming to -- >> go see katy perry or watch the kardashians. i don't care, whatever you want to do. go escape. >> if they look escapism from politi politics, the message is the last place you should be is at a roger waters show. >> looking for escape and connection with other people on this planet, if you want to be, you know, separated from your
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potential to empathize with others, if you want to liven an ivory tower, everybody's an enemy, you need to build walls and do a better deal with the chinese, whatever it might be, that this leader you've elected thinks it's a good idea, well, that's what you believe. >> roger, i may as well tell you, five years removed from september 11, off by just a day or two, i came to madison square garden and watched you perform dark side of the moon, and when the pig came out and had written on the side of it habeas corpus matters five years removed, i was in no mood for the message. now, i grant you when obama left office and there were, i think, the numbwas number was 41 stil d held, no files charges against them with an attorney, undeeply
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unsettled. five years, i was not, 15 years removed, i was. so i'm one of those in the audience, you know, i'm old enough to read the note and embarrassed at the times i did not comprehend what you were saying. i never waivered in support of the music. it's a healthy conversation to have. that's why i like being in your company. i like thinking about these things, but i don't agree with them on all. >> okay. >> i need to say that. >> but you agree with me on habeas corpus? >> after that length of time, absolutely. yeah. it's not right they should be held without charges. >> okay. this is why the rule of law is so important because if we can figure out a rule of law, then that means that we are civilized, at least to some exte extent. >> enjoying yourself on the tour? >> yeah. yeah. i am. >> is this the last go-round? you look great. >> i don't know if it is. you know, who knows. it may be. maybe not.
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i don't know. we're like all this political stuff you've been asked of me, it would be a lot easier to be on tour if i was not doing any of this, if i didn't have opinions. >> right, thank you. i appreciate you being so gracious with your time. >> oh, michael, i'm, you know, i only wish we could sit here and talk about love more. >> my radio producer, tc, in my head telling me that the reaction online to that interview, already so overwhelming on both my facebook page and via twitter. we're going to take the time when we come back and try to run through some of your reaction to my consideration with roger waer waters, and then are we, the united states, guilty of meddling in other countries' elections? i checked with an expert who is here with the results. ance could save money on car insurance. you know, the kind of driver who always buckles up... comes to a complete stop... and looks both ways, no matter what. because esurance believes that's the kind of driver who deserves to save money on car insurance.
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about the interview i did with musician roger waters, formally of pipg floyd, do the anti-trump of the tour detract from the musical experience, in other words, do fans like when their show business idols come forth like this? interested to know i pulled my audience as to what would determine their decision to attend a waters' concert. 3,000 voted, the results were 55% said i'd determine only by his music. that would call the shot. 40% say i take into account politics and music. 5% said i make the decision solely based on politics. i want to hear what you think. visit the facebook page and fwiter, what do you have? enormous reaction. from facebook, saw the show in tampa. loved resist part, but thought the rest of the anti-trump show was over the top and out of line for a concert. i looked as i watched in miami for signs of people who were
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unsettled by this. i heard no boos, you know, big arena, where the heat plays, but didn't see anyone walk out. some, obviously, had that reaction. give me another one. he's welcome to his believes, but when you pay hundreds of dollars for a concert ticket you want to hear and see the show, not listen to raving and drooling, i get the lyrical reference on politics. tom, this is what roger says about that because i asked exactly that. he would say to you, you really have to the paid attention all these years. there's a consistency to the world view, and he's expressed it through music for 50 or so years, so nobody should be surprised. that's what he would say. another one, i think from facebook. >> controversial is bob dylan and won a nobel prize. just following in grand tradition. yeah. i, you know, you could single out performers on both sides -- look, i think i said this
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earlier. if i make my musical and movie selections based on the politics of artists, i'd stay home all the time. you know, because it's awfully hard to find somebody who, by the way has talent and shares your world view. one more via twitter if we can. thank you for these. i appreciate it. waters is kwint sensual artist expressing opinion through craft. don't like it? don't go. that simple. i watch. i think that's exactly what he'd say. in fact, that is what he said to me. up next, with all the talk of russia meddling in our election, few are discussing this question. has the united states engaged in similar attempts to influence or interfere with other countries' elections? one expert says more than you think. i love you, couch.
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meddling in our election, one question is rarely asked and answer answered. does the united states do the same thing to influence other countries to have a pro-american result? if so, with what rate of success? joining me now is dov, a post-doctoral fellow in the politics of institute of strategy at carnegie melon. he's studied this. doctor, what do you bring to the table in terms of bias? are you looking at this with a jaundice eye or just trying to determine what has taken place? >> well, i come from a social science perspective. i began studying this long before this issue became, you know, daily news issue, and i'm trying to learn what are the facts in this regard, and provide them to a decision makers and to the general public. >> okay. i just didn't want people to think you come with a preconceived bias. tell me about your research. summarize briefly what you did and what you found.
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>> well, i studied interventions and other great powers intervening in elections in other countries in attempt to determine the election result, and when i find it comes in the case of the united states, the united states intervened in 81 elections of this -- 81 elections in this manner in 47 countries for this purpose between 1946-2000. >> give me an example. >> well, one example of such intervention occurred in italy in 1948 where the united states was worried about the possibility of the communism party winning the election there, so we basically did everything including the kitchen sink to prevent him from winning the election. everything from increasing our aide to the italian government to threatening that all aide
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would be cut off in case that the communism party would win, to giving very large amounts of covert campaign funding to the christian democratic party to designing a campaign for the christian democrats and other techniques. >> you say that 81 times in 60 countries between 1946 -- put it up on the screen of the that's a list. 1946-2000, the u.s. sought to influence the outcome of the election. by the way, are we good at this? are we successful? >> well, my research finds basically an average in the side we assist gets a bump of 3% to their vote chair, but that is an average effect. in other words, sometimes the effect is much larger and
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sometimes it is much less so to speak. >> your research ended in the year 2000. the birth really of the internet age and era. have we ever done what the russians are -- have we ever hacked? >> we did not use computer hacking, no. >> in each of these instances, because this has quite a negative connotation too hear some take away from this, well, the u.s. done it to is it always in the name of democracy? have we always sought to oppose communism? oppose a theology governing a nation's politics? what's the common denominator guiding the united states? >> well, of course, sometimes we assisted, you know, with pro-democracy candidates, sometimes, of course, we assisted the anti -- sometimes we, of course, assisted, you know, certain candidates, you know, varies from case to case and some situation to situation.
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>> authoritarian, though, in opposition to who or what? i take it -- we went with the authoritarian unless a nation is ruled by a communist. is that a devil's choice the united states had to make? >> that was many times the case during the cold war, yes. that was frequently our situation. yeah. >> and are our efforts, have they been covert or overt, and if your answer is both, which is more effective? >> well, basically, i find that about two-thirds of the these types of things were covert and about a third overt, and i find that the overt usually more effective than the covert in this regard. >> the overt is more effective, meaning we openly are supportive of one candidate or party over the others. we make our financial support known. that has a better track record than trying to do it as some say on the down low? >> exactly.
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>> it's a fascinating analysis. i leave to the facebook posts and the tweeters whether there's any kind of a moral e kwquivale hereme ment here. thank you for being here, appreciate it. >> thank you for inviting me. >> keep the tweets coming and facebook posts. what do we have? >> you are carrying putin and trump's water saying u.s. meddles in the election -- unbelievable, sandra. sandra. listen to me. watch the whole show. okay? don't pick and choose. watch the whole show. then tell me what you think. i'm carrying trump's water? were you not watching roger waters, the interview we did in the segment that e we just broadcast where the most successful and controversial concert tour of the summer season is all predicated, not all predicated, but largely predicated on an
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>> give me another one. i'm carrying nobody's water but my own, which is independent thinking. >> clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right. stuck in the meddle with you. sorry, mike. i couldn't help myself. that is how i feel. clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right. got to keep moving. still to come, your best and worst tweets. please stay with us. ome, thank . thank you. that's... not your car. your car's ready! wrong car... this is not your car? i would love to take it, but no. oh, i'm so sorry about that. you guys wanna check it out? it's someone else's car... this is beautiful. what is this? it's the all-new chevy equinox. this feels like a luxury suv. i love this little 360, how do they even do that? i made a bad decision on my last car purchase. well, your car's here. bummer... bummer. wah-wah. i'm ready for an upgrade. (laughter) there's nothing more than my so when i need to book a hotel room, i want someone that makes it easy to find what i want.
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hey, if you ever miss any of the program, you can catch us any time on cnngo, on line and through your connected devices and apps. here is more of what you have been thinking while i have been broadcasting. the tone of your right wing callers shows that russian interference and fake news was effective and is still having an impact. >> it is a really good point you
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are making. what was putin seeking to do? throw us off balance. and regardless of whether there was collusion per se, we have been thrown off balance. look at the lack of progress in washington, attributable, i think, to all the attention that this story is taking. hit me with another one. >> thanks for opening my eyes to yet another artist or group that i will no longer listen to. yes, it bothers me that much. you're probably not alone, but have you been paying attention to the content all these years. look, i had my own differences. i was angry when that pig came out and it was talking about habeas corpus. one more if we have time for it. >> great interview with roger waters. i want to go see the show. it's kind of funny. i feel like some people right now are going to stub hub to get their tickets and others are
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