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we are getting ready to flare the vice president of the united states, mike pence. he was the figure in negotiating the effort to repeal and replace obamacare. what will he say now that the effort collapsed. on the right side of your screen, maybe the left, we are waiting to hear from house speaker, paul ryan. paul ryan just walked into the room. what will he say. he forced house republicans to vote on it. they passed their own version. it was a tough vote. how do they feel the effort seems to have failed? we know the president feels annoyed. he was blind sided by the overnight developments. in a statement, moments ago, he wrote with a small majority, the republicans in the house and senate need more victories next year since the dems obstruct no votes. remember, it was two republican votes that doomed this to
failure overnight. again, we have a lot of developments. let's begin with mj leon capitol hill. what are you learning? >> reporter: there's no question, this is a painful moment for republican leaders. for most of this year, the republican party has been consumed by their efforts to repeal and replace obamacare. now those efforts imploding last night when senators jerry moran and mike lee saying they are a no on the motion to proceed and mitch mcconnell saying the efforts to repeal and replace obamacare, at least for the time being are dead. the plan "b" for mitch mcconnell is try to do a repeal and delay plan. he means he still wants to move forward on the motion to proceed on the house bill passed earlier. if it is successful, he wants to bring up an amendment to repeal major parts of obamacare, but
delay the efforts from going into effect for two years. if this sounds familiar, it is because republicans considered and talked about this earlier this year. republican leaders determined there is no appetite within the republican conference to do a repeal without a replacement plan being in place. now, where is president trump on all of this? he is certainly frustrated, as you mentioned and sending conflicting messages on what he wants to see happen. this morning, he sent out a tweet saying, as i always said, let obamacare fail, then come together to do a great health care plan. stay tuned. that is not exactly the message he sent last night on twitter when he said republicans should just repeal failing obamacare now and work on a new health care plan that will start from a clean slate. democrats will join in. john, what we are watching the next couple hours is the senate lunch when a lot of republican senators may be offering pushback to senator mitch
mcconnell for offering the repeal
now and replace later plan. we might get a better time line of when the vote is expected to happen. there is a lot of uncertainty on how the next few days will unfold. john? >> senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell. >> everyone knows about obamacare skyrocketing costs and plummeting choices. the discuss seems to veer into the abstract. they are not just numbers on a page, they are the lives of real people. these are the men and women we represent, american who is are hurting, family who is deserve better than obamacare's failures. we worked hard to provide them with a better way. we did so in the knowledge that this task would not be easy. we understood it would not come quickly. but we knew it was the right thing to do, so we pushed forward, anyway. i believe we must continue to
push forward now. i regret that the effort to repeal and immediately replace the failures of obamacare will not be successful. that doesn't mean we should give up. we will now try a different way to bring the american people relief from obamacare. i think we owe them at least that much. in the coming days, the senate will pick up and vote on repeal obamacare combined with a stable two-year transition period as we work toward patient centered health care. a majority of the senate voted to pass the same repeal legislation back in 2015. president obama vetoed it then. president trump, president trump will sign it now. i imagine many democrats were celebrating last night. i hope they consider what they are celebrating. the american people are hurting. they need relief. and it's regretful that our
democratic colleagues decided early on they did not want to engage with us, seriously, in the process to deliver that relief. this doesn't have to be the end of the story. passing a repeal legislation will allow us to accomplish what we need to do on behalf of our people. our democratic friends have spoken about wanting bipartisan solutions. passing this legislation will provide the opportunity for senators of all parties to
engage with a fresh start and a new beginning for the american people. >> call the role. >> mr. alexander. >> okay. all right. that was senator mitch mcconnell right now, the morning after the night when his effort to repeal and replace obamacare collapsed completely. he said it is time to push
forward now, instead of repeal and replace, senator mcconnell wants to try a different way, repeal now and what he called a stable two-year transition, it is essentially a repeal and delay, something republicans supported in the past. but, this year, many republicans said they were against it. let's go to house speaker, paul ryan taking questions on the situation. let's
listen in. >> as we pass and repeal obamacare, the legislative process for it to work, the house has to pass the bill. we have done that. the senate has to pass a bill for it to move forward. that's the next step. we are hoping they achieve that step. here is the problem. obamacare is in the middle of a tail spin. this law is collapsing. we have a promise to keep. we have to step ahead of the problem that this is collapsing. many people don't have choices left or one choice. 41% of the counties in america
have no competition in health insurance. they have one health insurer left. premiums have doubled. options are diminishing. that is just the start of the moment. we are hopeful the senate can take the pause they need to take and move forward to get something done. i'm worried this law -- i'm worried obamacare will stand and it will collapse and people will get hurt in the process. [ inaudible question ] >> did you air quote that like this when you said that? okay. look, this is a legislative process. it's a hard process. we, in the house, are proud of the bill we did. we passed a bill that we think is sufficient. the senate has a razor thin majority.
it's 52 majority. they need 50 votes. they are working through their next process. i'm not going to get ahead of the next. frankly, they need to see where it can go. we have a serious problem on our hands. >> the president campaigned on simultaneous repeal and replace. you said it will be a simultaneous repeal and replace. how many people will lose their health care, restore or have faith in the party. >> we have done this in the house. we think that's the solution. we think that's the best way to go. we have to wait and hope our friends in the senate can figure out how to get a bill passed and get something passed. [ inaudible question ] >> not going to foreclosure any
options. the democrats have not been interested in working on this. they don't want to get us off the obamacare train. they want to double down on a failed system that is in the middle of a collapse. ultimately, they are interested in a single payer system which means government run health care. it's not in our nation's interest. if they want to get away from government health care, they don't want to double down on
obamacare, we have something to work with. we haven't seen evidence of that, yet. thank you. >> the house speaker, paul ryan noting in the house, we have passed our version of repeal and replace. he is waiting on the senate to act now that that version collapsed. senator mcconnell is going to offer a repeal and delay plan. repeal for now and come up with an idea of how to replace obamacare. we are waiting to hear from vice president mike pence. he will weigh in on this
shortly. while we are waiting for the vice president, joining me now, an important figure in these discussions, republican congressman lee zelden. let me get your reaction to the news overnight that the senate version of repeal and replace failed. >> well, this particular plan doesn't have the votes based on the development last night. there are many options on how to improve health care in the country, coverage for people with health care in the country. senator mcconnell is going to move on to the next option to see if he can get to what is nearly a unanimous vote of senator colleagues, which is required. he only has 52. he has to get to 50. >> that option is repeal only, for now, and delay and hope he can come up with something in the next two years. it's a plan when discussed in
2015, the cbo said could cost 18 million people insurance in one year, is that something you can support, a repeal only measure? >> well, first off, when this similar proposal came in 2015, i did vote for it. it went through the house and senate, was vetoed by president obama. it's important to note when cbo scores these individual proposals, they don't take into account, this isn't an attack on the cbo, but they don't take into account anything the secretary of has to do administratively and doesn't take anything legislatively that requires 60 votes like medical malpractice reform. several pro po sales. >> absolutely. but, congressman, do you not think some insurers, for instance, some people in the industry, if a repeal only bill
would pass, they would get the jitters and start altering or removing their plans? just intuitively, don't you think people would lose insurance over that? >> actually, in the individual market, many of the requirements of the aca, in parts of the country, it has collapsed. in other parts, it is collapsing. listening to speaker ryan talk about what is true, you have the counties with one option left and others with zero. it's a relatively simple business model for insurance companies if i overgeneralize it. bring in more from premiums and deductibles. when you require this gold standard of policies, then you start paying out more than you are taking in. you then raise premiums, raise deductibles. the minimum insurance policy that has to be provided, the insurance companies can't afford to bring in more than they are paying out.
>> just a pure process question, then another subject. if repeal and delay were to be passed, you know, don't you think that some people would be within their rights to be concerned if republicans couldn't get something through now, why should it be any different over the next year or two? wouldn't there be a real possibility there never would be a replace? >> the repeal portion is the one that partisanship aside, id logically, there's a deep divide between members of congress. it's the repeal portion more so than the replace debate. hopefully, between republicans and democrats, you won't see as much of a divide in how do we insure more americans, have access to patient centered health care. the more difficult portion is the repeal. there, you are not going to get democratic votes. you can't sit here and blame
just democrats or just republicans. it shouldn't be partisanship. there's a deep difference. >> the president, by the way, on twitter, if you were reading it and maybe you had better things to do this morning is blaming republicans for their obstruction. i see what you are saying both sides need to come together. "the wall street journal," not a liberal paper said this morning it is sick and tired of how the white house is handling the russia investigation. the journal said release everything to the public ahead of the inevitable leaks. every meeting with russian ties, every phone call or e-mail, every trump business relationship going back years, that should include relevant parts of trump's tax returns, which the president will resist, but mr. mueller is sure to insist anyways. do you think the white house needs to be more transparent now? >> a lot has come out. i don't know what else there is
to come out. there are investigations going on, all indications are there is cooperation between the trump administration and people involved in the trump cal pain and the special council and the house and senate. i'm just not aware of anything that's come out to be concerned about. now, as far as the investigation goes, you know, that investigation continues. the cooperation between all parties is important. anything bob mueller says is important -- >> congressman? i think one of the things they are referring to is the meeting don trump jr. had with the lawyer. when they knew about it, they gave a misleading story, then the right story turned out more people were in the meeting than they initially told us. that's not transparency, is it? >> it's important you have these different questions come up, like with regards to the meeting that you want to get the
information out. it's best to put it out yourself rather than get reported in, say, "the new york times." from that standpoint, i certainly wouldn't disagree, if there is anything that needs to come out that hasn't come out that is relevant, that's important to put it out now. that part, i can't disagree with. >> congressman, i know it puts you in a tough position. >> take care, john. >> a lot going on in washington after the collapse of the republican senate effort to repeal and replace obamacare. we are waiting for the vice president of the united states to speak on this. this will be the first time we hear out loud from a member of the administration. his words will be crucial. we'll bring it to you live. at panera, a salad is so much more than one thing. more than one flavor, or texture, or color.
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this morning. this time on the meeting between donald trump jr. and that russian lawyer and a number of other folks. this new news just into cnn involves the unidentified eighth man. jeremy diamond joins us now. the eighth man, what are you learning? >> reporter: special council investigators are seeking information from the unidentified eighth man in the room who attended the june 26th meeting at trump tower according to the attorney representing that eighth person who attended the meeting. he is declining to publicly identify him to preserve the integrity of the investigation. what we are learning is, of course, that this person is going to be -- is of interest to special council robert mueller. we have learned few insights on
how he is reviewing this investigation. we know this eighth person is a representative of the family and his attorney says he is a long-time u.s. citizen. the special council's office declined to comment. john? >> jeremy diamond, with that, thank you very, very much. joining me is betsy from the daily beast and salina, cnn contributor and washington examiner. betsy, let's start with the breaking news. the special council very interested in this june 2016 meeting donald trump jr. went to after being promised incriminating information from the russian government on hillary clinton. they now want to speak to the eighth man. that shows you the course and the wide scope of this investigation right now. >> right. exactly. the fact this eighth man appears to be a u.s. citizen is very important.
that means he could be subpoenaed in u.s. court. the russian attorney, natalia veselnitskaya who was in that meeting isn't a u.s. citizen, of course, another person in that meeting is a dual russian and u.s. citizen. as mueller is putting together his information, he's a career prosecutor. one thing he is thinking is how much of the information i gather will be admissible in court. ? the case of the eighth man, the fact he is a u.s. citizen, anything he can tell mueller and his team is extraordinarily valuable in putting together a court case. >> fascinating. tara this is happening as the white house continues its strange argument. the president of the united states says anyone, everyone would have taken that meeting. everyone in congress says no, they would not have taken that
meeting. yesterday, at the white house briefing, sean spicer said there's nothing we heard that meeting was about anything other than adoption, which is actually different than what is in black and white on the e-mail exchange between donald trump jr. and his friend who had gotten the information from the russian government. >> i don't understand why the press secretary disputes a fact that is in clear black and white e-mail. but, it's obviously something they need to distance themselves from at this point. but, you know, trump is saying opposition. it shows what political neofits they are. allies told me, donald trump jr. just isn't that bright. it's a line they are using right now. they are saying he really doesn't know the political electoral system that well. he didn't think he was going anything wrong and doesn't think things through. the fact that jared kushner and
paul manafort were in the meeting, you have to think they might think this through unless you are saying the entire campaign team knew nothing about federal election law. >> another big development overnight, distracting from made in america week, the health care bill in the senate to repeal and replace obamacare collapsed. it's over and done with. now, all that's being discussed is repeal only and delay. there's finger pointing. the president of the united states is blaming democrats, but some republicans. our jeff zeleny hearing from senior republicans overnight saying critical of the white house, saying the president was playing with a fire truck and trying on a cowboy hat as the bill was collapsing and he had no clue. clearly some republicans disappointed that the president maybe didn't make a bigger effort to get something passed. >> right. i think there's a lot of frustration in washington, period.
among republicans, you know, whether they are in the house or the senate. this is something that, you know, they have been running on since 2009. it's a difficult thing to run against, right? once you get an entitlement, it's very difficult to take things away from people. one of the things i found fascinating in my reporting outside of washington is that people believe and want to see members on both sides of the aisle contribute and work on this. this comes from democrats and republicans. they would like to see everyone sort of have responsibility in making this right. there's good things about obamacare and there's bad things. i have been in counties in tennessee, kentucky, iowa, that they have no providers or one. they have no competition. and that's really hurting their bottom line because it's become incredibly expensive. >> it's interesting because in some of those county that is you
visit a lot, you get a mixed message. on the one hand, these are voters who would be very disappointed if the administration, republicans in congress did not manage to do something, anything on obamacare repeal, which they have been promising for a long time. on the other hand, these are people you get. you know through reporting, they might be disproportionately affected. there's a real push/pull among the voters. >> absolutely. this is a struggle for the republicans. they have a new coalition with trump and this new coalition voted for trump and they voted for them. a lot of the house districts and a lot of these competitive u.s. senate races. they are not, you know, fiscally conservative free market voters. right? a lot of them have dependencies on the government to provide or supplement their health care. and that's sort of what they are
facing. lee and moran, when they decided to not sign on to this bill, they come from ruby red states and from people who, you know, think the way they do. but, in some blue states and purple states like pennsylvania, ohio, missouri and wisconsin, you have an interesting mix of new republican coalition. >> i'm going to read off my computer right now. the breaking news is coming so fast, i have to look down here. to salina's point, a senator from a purple state, maybe a reddish purple, but ohio, they are concerned with the idea of repeal only. he would not say how he would vote, but serious concerns about the way forward. serious concerns about repeal only from rob portman could mean the new effort is in new peril before this kicks off. >> that's not a surprise.
getting to avotes for repeal only is an insurmountable pass. they recognize passing a repeal only bill, even though they pulled it off in 2015 is going to be extraordinarily difficult this time around. the consensus that is emerging among hill aides is they want to check the boxes, and when the repeal only process falls apart, which isn't guaranteed, but is possible, mcconnell can say, i did everything i could and move on to tax reform. another important concern for senators like portman is what happens to the $40 billion for opioid response under the senate bill? >> that's a great point. we hope the congressman can address that independently if they have a chance. what does the administration do? we are waiting for a picture on the screen. we are waiting to hear from vice president mike pence shortly. what do you think the
administration will do? how do they support it with the president of the united states saying repeal only now, on the other hand, let obamacare fail. >> this is another example of trump thinking hard sales tactics work in washington. he wants to put the senators on the line and say, hey, in 2015, like betsy said, you voted for repeal. now it's your time again. he wants to put them on the floor and get them to vote. this is inspired by tom cotton. let's do a repeal. let's see if they will put their names to this vote and we can move forward. do the hard sales tactic that is might work in new york city real estate work in d.c.? i mean, that's something we are all learning each day. as you can see president trump is learn thag as well. they are going to try the idea there is a two-year transition. if they vote for repeal in the next week, they have two years to come up with a great plan, not six months, not the deadlines they have created, two
full years. here's another question. insurance markets, the deadline is thursday. no one will answer the question are they going to give the insurance companies more resources. obamacare is a failing -- over the next two years. >> all right. a lot going on. thanks so much for your time helping us sift through the information that's flying in fast and furious. we are waiting for the vice president of the united states, mike pence to speak about this. you are looking at live pictures from washington. again, he was a central player in the administration's effort, maybe the central player to repeal and replace. that is falling apart. we could learn how the administration intends to behave going forward when he speaks.
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pence, being introduced in washington. this is our first chance to hear from someone in the administration about the collapse to repeal and replace obamacare. when he starts talking, we will bring it to you live. stephen more, economic adviser to the trump campaign and economic adviser to president bush and christine romans, star of early start. i want to ask christine romans about real facts. wait, before that, i think we are going to the vice president of the united states, mike pence who is walking up to the stage right now. again, vice president pence played the central role in the administration in working out a deal for a republican measure of repeal and replace obamacare. what he says matters. >> great leadership here. i -- i offer all of you a warm, very warm welcome to our
nation's capitol. welcome to washington, d.c. it's an honor to be here with you today with so many great american success stories. corner stones of american communities large and small. the members of the national retail federation here at the 83rd annual retail advocates summit. great to see you all. [ applause ] >> i bring greetings this morning from a friend of mine, a businessman who knows a little bit about retail. he's been fighting every day to unleash a new era of american opportunity and prosperity. i bring greetings from the 45th president of the united states of america, president donald trump. [ applause ] >> you know, from the first day of this administration, president trump has been fighting to restore jobs, opportunity and prosperity across the country.
this president signed more laws cutting through federal red tape than any president in american history. it's already saved businesses and families up to $18 billion in red tape costs every year. in fact, the president, early in our administration ordered every agency in washington, d.c. to find two regulations to get rid of before issuing any new federal regulations on american businesses large and small. [ applause ] >> with the support of our new secretary of labor, president trump is striking the right balance in labor relations, pointing two highly qualified experts at the labor board. as we speak, our administration is rolling back the joint employer rule. [ applause ] in case you didn't notice, the american people elected a builder to be president of the united states.
president trump already started to rebuild america. we won't stop until we have the best roads, bridges, airports and harbors and the best future we have ever had. plans are under way at the administration for an historic infrastructure bill and support a growing economy across america. this week is made in america week for our administration. the president has been fighting for american job creators and manufacturers and american farmers every single day so your businesses, american businesses, can sell more american goods than before. and, i'm here to report to you, since day one of this administration, president trump has been fighting tirelessly to repeal and replace obamacare. [ applause ] >> every day obamacare survives is another day the american economy and american families struggle. we all remember the broken
promises that made it possible for obamacare to get passed. remember them? they said if you like your doctor, you can keep them. not true. they said if you like your health insurance, you can keep it. not true. we were told health insurance costs would go down. that wasn't true either. our administration has shown the average premium has more than doubled since obamacare went into effect four years ago and in some states more than tripled. when obamacare pass zed, we were promised families would save up to $2500 in premiums every year. the average plan today costs nearly $3,000 more than a plan did in 2013. while premiums are soaring, choices are plummeting. next year, nearly 40% of america's counties, including nine entire states will have only one choice of a health insurance provider, meaning no choice at all. even worse, dozens of counties
will have no health insurance providers whatsoever on the obamacare exchange in 2018. men and women behind these statistics are real people facing a real crisis. behind every number is a name and behind every name is a story. i have heard them as i traveled across this country on our president's behaf. i have heard firsthand from job creators like all of you in this room and working families about the burden obamacare has placed upon them. the burden of higher costs, fewer choices and worst care for the most vulnerable. obamacare has failed and obamacare must go. [ applause ] president trump and i are grateful for the efforts of senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell and the republicans who worked so hard in the house and senate to keep their promise to repeal and replace obamacare.
as the president said earlier today, most republicans were loyal, terrific and worked hard and there are no truer words. but, last night, we learned the senate still doesn't have consensus on a bill to repeal and replace obamacare at the same time. president trump and i fully support the majority leader's decision to move forward with a bill that just repeals obamacare and gives congress time, as the president said, to work on a new health care plan that will start with a clean slate. you know, the senate actually passed the very same bill in 2015 and sent it to president obama's desk and they should do it again. to be clear, the senate should vote to repeal now and replace later or return to the legislation carefully kraflted in the house and senate. either way, inaction is not an option. congress needs to step up. congress needs to do their job and congress needs to do their
job now! [ applause ] >> as the president said with his inexhaustible optimism and determination, stay tuned. we will return. we will rescue the american people from the disastrous consequences of obamacare and restore a health care system based on personal responsibility, free market competition and state based reform. that's the american way to meet the health care needs of the american people in the 21st century. we are not going to stop fighting until we get it done. [ applause ] >> but i'm here today on the president's behalf to say thank you. thanks to national retail federation -- >> vice president of the united states, mike pence speaking to the national retail federation with strong words about what the
administration wants in the effort to repeal and replace obamacare. he said repeal now and replace later. that is now the goal of the administration. he said congress needs to do its job now. pressure from the administration. he also added, pointedly and subtly, most republicans were loyal. most, but not all. it was the defection of two republicans overnight that caused the repeal and replace to collapse on its. now the administration wants repeal now, replace later. joining me now, stephen moor, christine romans. romans, let me start with you. >> sure. >> we have numbers on what repeal now and replace later means. >> if you repeal today, no replacement, you have 18 million new uninsured people. by 2026, that's a lot of people.
and premiums would spike according to kaiser foundation and the cbo. you would repeal the mandate. there would be no mandate to get insurance. healthy people were not big consumers of health care, get out. that would mean it is more expensive to insure everybody else. that's where -- >> steven moor, what do you do about the 18 million people who would lose their insurance. is repeal now a concern? >> well, i think the way it would work is you would have a bill that would say as of january 1, 2019 or january 1, 2020, obamacare is repealed. christina's point, what wuld happen is you would keep the law in place up until that date. it would give congress -- i think christine is being opt liptic there. you have two or three years for congress and the white house to get together and come up with something that works. it is interesting, i want to
make a quick point. christine mentioned the point you have 15-20 million people drop out if they had a choice. what that means is they don't want obamacare. they can't afford it. it's too expensive. what our goal is, as conservatives and free enterprise is move where everyone can buy an insurance plan tailored to their need. this is america. you buy something tailored to your need and affordability. that's pro-choice. why are liberals against that. >> steven moore, christine is many things, but not opt liptic. what happens to the insurance market if the senate, congress and the president were to do repeal now and replace later, even if, technically the law would be on the books for another year or two, what would the insurance companies do in the meantime?
what would happen? >> you know what would happen. we would go back to the medieval times when insurers spent time trying to figure out how to get the sick off their roles and put in lifetime caps, cancel your insurance if you had any pre-existing conditions. they compete over how to finld the healthy and give them low prices. i guess it's okay if you want to go back to the old days, but i think there's a reason why obamacare is favored 2-1 over trump care and there's massive opposition by the american people. it's not just among politicians. it's not just among the democrats plus a bunch of the republicans. the american people, overwhelmingly, do not want to do the repeal bill they are going to try to jam through. i don't think that's going to work. >> you know, christine romans, you have been noting what it might mean for the overall agenda. >> one thing, if you repeal and
have a two-year window to replace, you are assuming congress can get their act together and decide on something together. that's a very big assumption. what does it mean with trade or a tax reform or infrastructure. there are high hopes this president had a big agenda that a republican white house or republican congress could be able to get through. this imperils that agenda. >> the vice president took up all our time. stephen moore, do you think the russian investigation slowed down getting health care through? >> is that a trick question? of course it has. i agree with christine. obamacare taking so long has put the rest of the agenda, especially the tax cut on hold. that's a problem for republicans. >> austin, i'm curious, democrats who have not been part of this effort said they would be, perhaps. i want to know one reasonable
area democrats should reach out to republicans in an area to reform obamacare, repair it as you would. one area you think they might agree to? >> the area the democrats would agree to, if you think the exchanges are falling apart, the answer is to encourage people to participate, not to do the opposite. so, if they came to democrats and said let's do this in a bipartisan way to try to encourage participation, i think the democrats would be on board with that. >> i lied, i got a little more time. >> lowering the price for people. >> then they should focus on lowering the price, not on ripping up what is already established. >> how can you lower the price? >> well, one way you could do it is start by reinstating the risk orders provision which allows the insurance companies some certainty they know the distribution of people that are going to buy the insurance are more like the national
distribution, not just the heavily sick. two, you shouldn't fight the medicaid expansion. you had a series of red states refusing to expand medicaid. there are a series of what should have in the past been bipartisan ideas they can start with. the trump administration's approach has been a purely partisan approach. we barely won the election, he didn't come in with a bipartisan approach. >> obama did it without a single republican support. >> reagan won in a landslide. trump barely won. >> there's been partisanship on both sides. i don't think it would be a shock that there's partisanship. steven, i'm going to put you on the spot here because we are getting information from a republican senator. this is from dana bash. a republican senator who asked to speak said the feeling inside the republican caucus is some frustration at senators mike lee
and moran making the announcement while president trump was having dinner. it was beyond rude they said of lee and moran, yet this senator also noted that this says a lot of what this -- hang on one second. we are going to listen to chuck schumer. >> u.s. senate. after numerous delays, false starts, false predictions and two pulled votes, it should be crystal clear to everyone on the other side of the aisle that the core of the bill is unworkable. it's time to move on. it's time to start over. rather than repeating the same failed partisan process, yet again, republicans should work with democrats on a bill that lowers premiums, provides long term stability to the markets and improves our health care system. i heard the republican leader this morning say that democrats, quote, decided early on they did not want to engage seriously,
unquote, on health care. in the same speech, the republican leader admitted the very first thing republican majority did this congress is pass reconciliation so they could pass health care on a party line vote. 50 needed. no democrats needed. early on, the majority leader told democrats, we don't need ya. we don't want ya. respectfully, i take issue with the idea democrats didn't want to engage on health care. the majority leader admitted he decided the matter for us when he locked democrats out of the process at the outset. at the very beginning of this congress, president trump and leader mcconnell said don't come knocking at our door on health care, we don't need you. now that their one-part effort largely failed, we hope they
will change their tune. it seems like many republicans are ready for a bipartisan effort on health care, indeed. my friend senator mccain urged it quite strongly, saying, quote, congress must now return to regular order, hold hearings and receive input from members of both parties. he said that while recuperating in arizona. so, that's how strongly he feels about it. other republican senators have made similar comments. but the republican leaders still plans to ignore their advice and, instead, plans on holding a proxy vote on a straight repeal of our health care first. make no mistake about it, passing repeal without a replacement would be a disaster. our health care system would
implod. millions would lose coverage. coverage for millions more would be diminished. our health care system would be in such a deep hole that repair would be nearly impossible. in passing, in fact, passing repeal and having it go into effect two years later is in many ways worse than the republican health care bill that was just rejected by my republican colleagues. it's like, if our health care system was a patient who came in and needed some medicine. republicans propose surgery, the operation was a failure. now republicans are proposing a second surgery that will surely kill the patient. medicine is needed, bipartisan medicine, not a second surgery. we urge our republican colleagues to change their tune. passing repeal now is not a door
to bipartisan solutions as the majority leader suggested this morning. rather, it is a disaster. the door to bipartisanship is open right now, not with repeal or with an effort to improve the existing system. the doors open right now. the republican leadership only needs to walk through it, as many republican members are urging. the door is to accept the progress we have made in our health care system and work to improve it. the affordable care act isn't perfect, but repealing all the good things about the law will create such chaos that there will hardly be anything left to repair. republicans don't need to wreak havoc on our health care system first in order to get democrats to the table. we are ready to sit down right
now if republicans abandon cuts to medicaid, abandon huge tax breaks for the wealthy and agree to go through the regular order, through the committees, with hearings, on to the floor, in time for amendments. that's how we perfect legislation here. that's how it's been done for 200 years. almost inevitably, when you try to draft something behind closed doors and not vet it with the public, it becomes a failure. in this case, a disaster. so, again, our republican colleagues don't need to reek havoc on our health care system first in order to get democrats to the table. we are ready to sit down right now, again, if republicans abandon cuts to medicaid,
abandon tax breaks for the wealthy and agree to go through the regular order. the door to bipartisanship is open now, republicans only need to walk through it. i remind my republican friends that the cbo already scored the idea of a clean repeal bill and it could be a catastrophe. listen to what nonpartisan cbo, cbo, d head of cbo assigned by the head of the republican house and senate. here is what cbo said about repeal. it would cause 32 million americans to lose their insurance, premiums would double while cutting taxes for households with incomes over $1 million by over $50,000 a year. it would end medicaid expansion with no grace period or option for states who like their
medicaid expansion and want to keep it. in many ways, it's just as cruel, if not crueller to medicaid as the trumpcare bill in a different way. so, i would expect the same senators who were concerned about trumpcare bills, medicaid cuts will be equally concerned about what repeal and delay would do to medicaid. many of my republican friends rejected the idea of repeal and delay several months ago at the beginning of the year when president trump first proposed it. it seemed like that was what the republicans would do. here are just some of the names back then who said repeal, then replace. later doesn't work. cassidy, alexander, collins, corker, hatch, moran, mccain,
murkowski, paul. i will tell those colleagues and all the others, the idea hasn't magically gotten better with age. it is still nothing more than a cut and run approach to health care that will leave millions of americans in the cold and raise costs on everyone, the young, the old, the sick, the healthy, working americans and middle class families. everyone will be hurt but the very, very wealthy. mr. president, every day that republicans spend on trying to pass their now failed partisan trumpcare bill, every day they spend cooking up new tricks to bully their members to get on a health care bill is another day wasted, another day that could have been spent working on real improvements to our health care system. democrats want to work with our
colleagues on the republican side. to stabilize the marketplace and improve the cost in quality of care. we want to do it via regular order, a process this body has used time and time again to produce consensus, bipartisan, historic legislation. the majority leader said in 2014 in a speech, to quote, this is mitch mcconnell. when the senate is allowed to work the way it is designed to, it arrives along the political spectrum. if it's an assembly line for one party's legislative agenda, it creates instability and strife rather than good, stable law. i want to repeat that. these are p words of mitch mcconnell. i hope leader mcconnell is listening and remembers these words. he hasn't f