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all right. top of the hour, you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. jared kushner is talking. he is the quietest member of the president's inner circle, at least publicly, but today he just became the most -- member to step before congress and explain his interactions with russia and during the transition time. really the bottom like is the president's son-in-law, top adviser is denying any collusion involving him or anyone else from within the campaign as far as he knows. he also stepped in front of the cameras, which we never see, in front of the white house shortly after meeting with senate
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investigators. >> my name is jared kushner. i am senior adviser to president donald trump. when my father-in-law decided to run for president, i served his campaign the best i could, because i believe in him and his ability to improve the lives of all americans. and now serving the president and the people of the united states has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. i am so grateful for the opportunity to work on important matters such an middle east peace and reinvigorating america's innovative spirit. every day i come to work with enthusiasm and excitement for what can be. i have not sought the spotlight. first in business and now in public service, i have always focused on setting and achieving goals and have left it to others to work on media and public
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perception. since the first questions were raised in march, i have been consistent in saying that i was eager to share any information i have with the investigating bodies, and i have done so today. the record and documents i have voluntarily provided will show that all of my actions were proper and occurred in the normal course of events of a very unique campaign. let me be very clear. i did not colewd with russia nor do i know of anyone else in the campaign who did so. i had no improper contacts. i have not relied on russian funds for my businesses. and i have been fully transparent in providing all requested information. donald trump had a better message and ran a smarter campaign, and that is why he
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won. suggesting otherwise ridicules those who voted for him. it is an honor to work with president trump and his administration, as we take on the challenges that he was elected to face. creating jobs for american people, keeping america safe, and eliminating barriers to achieving the american dream. thank you very much, and i look forward to taking questions from the house committee tomorrow. thank you. >> no questions, he just turned around and walk into the west wing. he submitted this 11-page statement that confirms he indeed had four contacts with russians. so let's begin with cnn justice correspondent jessica schneider. 11 pages, he spoke with staffers today on the hill. what new details came out? >> i say 11 pages worth of details. we really got an in-depth
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glimpse and it was the first time we heard from jared kushner, saying in a statement he wanted to set the record straight. he did detail the four meetings he had between april and december 2016. the first one was previously undisclosed. it was a short meet-and-green. but it really was that june 2016 meeting with donald trump jr. and that russian lawyer among others that's been among the most talked about. and curb any did address it head-on, saying he attended at the request of don junior, and he didn't read the chain of e-mails that promised to hand over dirt on hillary clinton. he reiterated he believed it was about russian adoptions. that's actually what was discussed, but he quickly
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realized it was a waste of time. kushner writing in a statement, saying i actually e-mailed my assistant from the meeting after i had been there for ten or so minutes and said call me on my cell, need excuse to get out of the meeting. he said he did leave a short time later. really, brooke, these are some of the details that he presumably discussed this morning. he was over on capitol hill for about 2 1/2 hours. he was answering those questions behind closed doors, though, not under oath. we're not exactly sure what heside, about you presumably along the lines of this statement. and kushner said he will go before the house committee, both the members and the staffers, tomorrow. brooke? >> jessica, thank you for the setup. let's take a deeper dive into all of this. joining mess iss-- me is errol
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lewis. thank you for being here, gentlemen. he teed it, 11-page statement. no collusion on behalf of myself or anyone in the campaign. we did find out about this previously disclosed meeting that had not been out there, hearing from senator ron wyden, democrat of oregon saying all this information we're getting brings on more questions than answers. all right. he fulfilled his organ and move on? >> oh, no, no, not yet. it's a remarkable document. i would urge viewers to take a look at it. it paints a picture of chaos and disorganization that's somewhat alarm alarmen. i mean, i real through it and
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will the real jared curb mer please stand up? either it's a person who doesn't read his own e-mails, a e-mail says russia, clinton, personal and confidential, he doesn't read that, but goes to the meeting. he doesn't stay at the meeting when a russian representative is talking about sanctions, the number one issue causing tensions between the u.s. and russia. he doesn't understand these things and yet he now has a portfolio that includes trying to settle the middle east peace situation. globetrotting to iraq into an active war zone to be the president's eyes and ears. organizing a state meeting by the president of china, running a council that's supposed to bring innovation. >> i want to go back to your point. to you, reading your piece in january, the whoa thesis was essential jared kushner is more like the president than anyone realizes. watching him today and this
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voice that no one can close their eyes and imagine, this mystique that we discussed, who is the real jared kushner? >> i think you saw him in that statement. i mean, the -- the line, the most memorable line from the statement was about sort of that the -- to suggest that donald trump didn't win fair and square, but ridiculing the american people. >> he ran the smartest campaign. >> that sounds like the jared kushner, i think people who know him have said that he's veries -- you know, very upset after the campaign at the tone of some of the coverage of trump's victory, and i think probably the last six months of russia headlines have only made him feeling more -- >> here's the question. off of errol's point, you get e-mails, you add them to your calendar, apparently he just responded to, a meeting, trump tower with don junior, and
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according to kushner neglected to read the whole trail of the previous e-mails chain on what was promised, apparently dirt on hillary clinton which we reportedly came to not be. ignores the e-mail subject line, which is essentially russia, clinton, private and confidential, and fran bruini of "new york times" said this morning about this, a former emissary about bearing dirt, but what do you know read right over the subject line, no flashing lights in those proper nounce, no blaring signs in those particular adjectives, and the e-mail while sitting in the meeting, hey, get me out of here ten minutes in. how skeptical should staffers be? >> i think this is sort of two layers of it. one is likes sort of what's legally provable. it's difficult to prove that mob notice wad a subject line and e-mail was, and then there's
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sort of like what would any rational person believe? i think maybe jared has a bit harder time on the second one that he could have showed up to a meeting with don junior without having any knowledge of what the agenda was, particularly when he takes pains in the rest of the statement to talk about how incredibly busy he is, and how many people are demanding his attention. so, you know, there's a slight internal contradiction there, i feel like. >> it all comes up to the possibility that if he's as hard-pressed and sort of disorganized as the statement makes him sound, he would be going into meetings where the russians are running some agenda -- if you immediate the russian ambassador -- if you meet with the russian ambassador and cannot remember his name, you know, that ambassador may have gotten information out of you, or just the fact of the meeting and might be using it as part of some larger strategy. >> isn't it a larger piece of
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this as we've been hearing, donald trump, folks within the white house, railing on the fake news media, and these reports, fake now of people within the campaign and the transition team a meeting with russians, yet you have out of his son-in-law's 11-page statement, you know, the opposite essentially confirming that the fake news is fact. >> sure. that's right. certainly words mean certain things in trump world. we got a big taste of that during the campaign and it's continued into the administration. when donald trump says so-and-so is beings unfair or so-and-so is being biased, what he means is information is coming forward that's not favorable to donald trump. when they say it's fake news, it means the news is accurate, factual, but it paints them in the a bad light. certainly as we just saw from the statement from intraworld, when you is a i there's a problem here with all of these
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sort of undisclosed meetings and other issues going on, they hear that as saying our administration is illegitimate. i don't know if that's genuine or political. i don't know if it's strategic, but the reality is one can clearly logically say, yes, he won. he flipped counties from obama to trump, he won michigan, pennsylvania, the industrial midwest, he won, he's the president. however, there's something going on with these undiscloseside might get. >> agree, but just trying to look at it from all perspectives. finally to you, does the public need to give jared kushner credit, as he and his lawyers have been probleming for months and month that he will sit and answer the questions. yes, he's going back tomorrow. do we give him credit? >> sure. i think to the extent that he appeared willingly, wasn't -- wasn't subpoenaed to come and
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testify, obviously he gets credit for that. i will say the one part that seems quite credible and conforming to my unreporting is that both the campaign and the transition were incredibly ad hoc affairs, especially during the transition. let's be honest, i don't think they even expected to inwin the presidency. jared kushner never expected to be doing a transition, so to that extent, i think we can give them a bit of the benefit of the doubt in terms of some of those contacts that he had, that it's possible he didn't realize the gravity or the way they would look to outsiders months later. >> but now we know, his version of events, so from here on out, if anything changes, we have a problem. thank you so much. president trump once again pushily insults hi attorney general. have you seen this? calling jeff sessions
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beleaguered? what is this about? is this the president trying to get one of the his earliest supporters to quit? let's talk about that. also ahead, his first full week on the job, and anthony saye scaramucci dealing with mixed messages. and the president will deliver a speech on health care just 24 hours before the procedural vote. you're watching cnn. boost® high protein it's intelligent nutrition with 15 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink.
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a new day, a new insult. president trump is taking yet another swipe at his own attorney general, jeff sessions, just days after the president blasted him for recusing himself from the russian investigation, the president tweeted this. why aren't committees and investigators and our beleaguered ag looking into -- that comments from the president all the more curious, as he took a photograph with white house interns, reporters asked, should jeff sessions resign? the president said no words, but he definitely seemed to be giving a message. watch him.
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eyeroll and a cacophony of laughter from the interns. let's go to kate wynn-collins. when is the last time they've even pentagon. >> we ahead today that jeff sessions and donald trump have not spoken since the "new york times" interview last week when donald trump publicly blasted jeff sessions for recusing him/from yore seeing the investigation. he recused himself back in mark, but it's clearly still irking president trump. those attacked haven't stopped. he went after him in a tweet today, calling him beleaguered. sarah sanders said last week that donald trump has confidence
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in jeff sessions, but he was disappointed in him for recusing himself. now we know they haven't spoken, so it seems like the relationship is pretty tense, with donald trump calling him out on twitter. kaitlan, thank you. this comes nearly a week after president trump told "new york times" he regretted hiring jeff sessions and wouldn't have done so if he had known he was going to recuse himself. chris cillizza, let me lay this scenario on you. this would be like, you know, our boss talking about beleaguered chris cillizza? a very public way. >> oh, yeah. >> this is just -- not too long after hiring you. what would you be thinking if you were called beleaguered? >> is there something that jeff zhukker is saying something i don't talk about.
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no, look, i think it's always helpful to think of it in our own lives and what it would be like. donald trump made his sort of name, brooke by firing people, right? everyone knows you walk in d.c. and saying what's the first thing you think of when i say "donald trump." . most peek would say "you're fired." outside of james comey, he doesn't really like firing people. he didn't want to fire mike flynn, but he did. just this past week with sean spicer, asked him to stay on, rea peatedly spicer rejected. i don't think it's much of a lien, i think he wants to fire sessions, but he does want sessions to leave. there's just nothing else that explains from last wednesday until now this series, and as caitlyn collins reported, they
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haven't talked since that interview. add this. you had this on your piece on cnn.com that rudi giuliani's name has been floated. apparently he just told cnn that there is no truth to that, even saying that jeff sessions did the right thin. >> i'm cynical, but i don't think there's a ton the coincidences in presidential politics. which means if he's talking about running down jeff sessi s sessions. the broader point here is, if you're jeff sessions, who was
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a reminder donald trump's one of his biggest advocates. >> first senator. >> first senator to endorse donald trump. this is a guy who was a core supporter for whom immigration was the defining issue, why he decided to endorse donald trump. suddenly you have donald trump running him down, which begs the question, if you think attorney general is so bad and you're focusing on the wrong things, he works for you at the end of the day. that returns to my point. he doesn't want to fire him. he may not like how that would look, about you he doesn't want jeff sessions in that job anymore. i think that's clear. >> people hearing about all of this, they're deeply alarmed. s from the get-go. we're also hearing in rex tillerson was taken aback by the president's remarks about jeff sessions in that "new york times" interview, and now could be considering what's being
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called rex-it. >> which is a brilliant name. whether it happens or not, whoever came up with it deserving kudos. >> what are you hearing about that? >> tillerson was always an interesting but difficult fit. this is a guy who is running a big company who's used to he says it and it happens, as opposed to managing a giant piece of the federal bureaucracy. i don't think his 'going anywhere immediately, but i think human nature would dictate if you saw someone an early supporter of the boss, with the boss always and the boss said, i don't like this guy anymore, you if you were also an employees of the boss would sigh sheesh, what does that mean for me? you could not not thing that. you wouldn't be a human if that did not have an impact on you. if you're req tillerson or anyone else, or anyone else serving in the white house.
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rex-it. >> i wish i had come up with it. he is the smooth-talking president praising new communications chief at the white house, but anthony scaramucci, deleting his old tweets, many which slam his current boss. we went back to see exactly what they said. f business. awesome notebook! check. but who takes care of them? office depot / office max. this week, these composition books are just 25 cents each. ♪ taking care of business
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>> that is the newest hire in the white house, changing his tune about the president. anthony scaramucci, deleting old tweets. scaramucci tweeted -- full transparency, i'm deleting at tweets. it shouldn't be a distraction. i serve the president's agenda. that's all that matters. for the sake of transparency we looked at the tweets that no longer exist. you know, you readhat,it's like lack of transparency, it seems almost oxymoronic, is it? >> sure. the reality would be it would be in his best interests to explain why some of the things he said than to pretend he said it. he said if i did say some something. it's not if, but you did. they're about four to five years old.
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if hillary keeps this up, she might be back in play for 2016. i hope she runs, think is incredibly competent. we have a few others one, where he saidic lie hillary, have to go with the best athlete. we need to turn this around. that was from 2012. also donald trump, please say it ain't so. there are quite a few. you can take steps -- the fact that many people still believe climate changes is a hoax is quite disheartening. >> and even referenced -- came out on friday, he called him a hack, he being his now boss, and he's apologized over and over for that. so that's his history with president trump. what about president obama? did they go to harvard together? >> they did. they played a bit of basketball
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together, but after graduation they went in two very different directions. scaramucci went to work in investment banking and we know obama became a civil rights attorney. and we have an exchange talking about wall street. >> listen, i represent the wall street community. we have felt like a pinata. maybe you don't feel like you're whacking us with a stick, but we certainly feel that. when are we going to stop whacking at the wall street pinata, and how do we fix that arbitrage. >> i have been amused over the last couple years, the sense of somehow me beating up on wall street. i think most folks a main street feel like they got beat up on. and they -- [ applause ] -- i'll be honest with you, there's probably a big chunk of the country that thinking that i have been too soft on wall
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street. that's probably the majority, not the minority. now, what i have try to do is try to be practical. >> so, yeah, right there we have him defending wall street, but that probably is easier than what he has to do now, defending a president with a 36% approval rating. >> eugene, thank you very much. >> thank you. the president facing a massive designation as the how and senate announce an agreement on a new russia sanctions bill. the white house doesn't appear to be on the same page. is president trump going to sign the russian sanctions bill? >> we have to ask president trump that. it's my second or third day on the job. my guess is that he's going to make that decision shortly. >> the administration is supportive of being tough on russia, particularly in putting these sanctions in place. we support where the legislation is now, and will continue working with the house and senate to put those tough sanctions in place on russia.
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>> so two different messages. you heard the whole i don't know. let's talk to tara palmieri, without correspondent for politico. tara, if you look at this both ways, both options not so great. what -- vetoed in this legislation? >> there's a possibility that president trump could add a signing note to the bill. he can sign it and then say he doesn't actually agree with the sanctions. president obama haz uss used thn the path. i think what you saw is there wasn't a coordination of the messaging, likely because scaramucci is still on the job. that's a lesson learned. when you represent the white house. you have to know affirmatively every but a lot of times donald trump isn't quite sure of his position yet.
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some white house eighths tell me there's a sort of method for the confusion, and he doesn't want to show his carts, he may sign the bill, may not. by keeping it ambiguous, he's still maintaining some sort of relationship with russia and in a way to do something that he promising, which is reset the situation between the two countries. >> generally you have the comms director, would report to chief of staff, and that doesn't seem entirely clear. you have all this great reporting on how now reince priebus is feeling, and how he may feel pretty shrined. >> reince priebus vehemently opposed bringing on scaramucci. he was actually up for the job of public liaison, and was pulled from him because of the shall issues with the sale of
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his business, but it was understood that priebus didn't want him in the white house. he has a great relationship with the trump children, and one thing, trump admires men who had success in business. he's not as enamored as political operative. >> even the head of the rnc, as reince was? >> well, from what i've been told trump values monetary success over things like that. so he's creating a possible other cook in the kip by bringing in scaramucci. they're both new yorkers, but reince was sidelined, because's one close adviser to the president told me he doesn't have person clout but organization at clout. he's already lost his deputy chief of staff, katie walsh, fired after the first health care bill did not make it to the floor. he lost mike duckie, and most
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recently he lost one of the his most high-profile aides underneath him, sean spicer, the press secretary. so there's other rnc aides in the press shop, and their fate is to be determined. they've been known more for defending priebus than other members of the administration, so their fate is still questionable at this point, and this is going to be, you know, a real loss for priebus, because he needed that silo to really keep his strength in the white house, and all the other members have their own people underneath them that prop them up. >> it's a big deal. your reporting is significant. just keep your ear to the ground, will you? on the reince priebus, anthony scaramucci's future. tara, thank you so much. >> thank you. we do have more on our breaking news today, jared
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kushner speaking out after his meeting, someone we rarely hear from publicly. the president's son-in-law not under oath dao during that questions. so we're asking, why not? what does that mean for him legally? those details are ahead. here's to the safety first... i think i might burst... totally immersed weekenders. whatever kind of weekender you are, there's a hilton for you. book your weekend break direct with hilton.com and join the summer weekenders.
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more on our breaking news today. jared kushner speaking out after his closed-door meeting with senate investigators on his role involving russia and the trump campaign. here's the thing, though. we were told he did not testify under oath, but oath or not, it is still a federal crime if anyone knowingly or willfully lies to congress. so blitz's talk to andy wright,
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now a professor at savannah law school. >> thanks for having me, brooke. >> why wasn't he u7bd oath when he was on capitol hill. can you tell me why? >> typically the congressional investigators would prefer to get a transcribed interview ahead of any public hearings, because they can do a much deeper dive, ask series of questions that go much deeper, five-minute rounds or ten-minute rounds and can also do so without the distraction of the cameras in the room. if you want to get to the bottom of documents and lock in a witness, it's probably best from the vase standpoint to interview these folks ahead of time. >> so whoever you're talking about, if you don't tell the truth and that comes out later, is the penalty different? you know -- >> the marchly statutes and false statements statutes carry the same penalty, a five-year
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potential jail term. so in the popular imagination, for all of us who watched court dramas, people raise their hand add put their hand on a bible and we think about perjury, but false statements is just as good a legal incent imto tell the truth as perjury. >> jared kushner, as we've learned, he's changed his clearance form multiple times, adds names, disclosures, but what strikes me is now that he's sat in front of congress, it's harder from this point forward to claim ignorance. >> that is correct. he's locked himself into statements. so he's declared he did not engage in collusion with russia. he's declared he did not read the e-mails that indicated the purpose of the june 9th, 2016
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meeting was for the purpose of obtaining dirt from russian officials on hillary clinton, and several other at the same times he'll have to live with starting tomorrow. if there's any daylight between what he says to the house and what he says to the signal they'll be of interest. >> right. exactly. antiwright, thank you very much for me, in savannah today. and just a short time from now, the president will be deliver a statement on health care, a of course that some say they don't know much about. plus a shocking awful discovery in the back of this 100-degree truck. dozens of undocumented immigrants found, ten of them down dead, and the driver is charged with those details for you, ahead. ur new prescription s have a few side effects. oh, like what? ♪ you're gonna have dizziness, nausea, and sweaty eyelids. ♪
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another person has died in the horrific case of what's being called ruthless smuggling. in texas, ten undocumented immigrants have died after authorities say they were packed inside of this stifling hot tractor trailer found in a walmart parking lot. the temperature outside had reached 100 degrees. the driver of that 18-wheater is james bradley jr. federal prosecutors charged him today with knowingly transcripting illegal aliens. 39 people in total were pulled from the back of that truck, but officials say more than 100 people, 100 may have been inside at one point, including two 15-year-olds. responding officers describe the victims as being extremely hot to the touch. with me the newly elected mayor of san antonio, mr. ron
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nurembeneuro nurren berg, thank you for joining me. they say this happens all the time. they were just fortunate enough to actually catch this one. how often does this happen, bodies in the back of the truck? well, the magnitude of human trafficking is growing every single day. we know it's one of the fasters-growing crimes not just in texas, but across the country. we are trying our best as local communities to stop it, because it has, as you've seen, consequences that are just incredible and very unfortunate, and it's sad situation for the families that are involved. so we're trying to offer them the compassionate care they deserve. >> it's my understanding ten dead, but dozens are injured.
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i was reading. you tell me, reports of injuries of brain damage because of the heat. >> yeah. well, you know, our first response in a sit like this -- and i do want to thank our first responders, ems personnel, fire personnel, police personnel, private citizens for saying something so we can prevent more loss of life than already occurred, but conditions you described are inhumane. we already lost several of the people that were in there, and as others were being airlift indeed critical condition to local hospitals, we knew the casualties would only continue to climb. again, our first response is any local community should, is to offer and render aid. that's what we did. >> mayor, what about the driver who was charged today? who is he?
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what more do we know about him? >> um, they have released his name. at this point it's a federal investigation. we understand through the u.s. attorney's office that thus far he's being charged with smuggling, that level of crime may increase. we do know that what happened here and the victims that were involved -- and i use that word deliberately -- these people that were in that truck are victims of human smuggling. we hope the full weight of the law falls on the driver and those involved. again, because of the growing nature of human smuggling and human trafficking of all kinds in our country, i think we need to make sure that we fully investigate the magnitude of this particular crime. mayor, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you, brooke.
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an awful story. any moment now president trump will be delivering a statement from the white house after he takes swipes at republicans over health care. will he change minds? and on a day when he hits his own attorney general on twitter, referring to him as beleaguered, what could this mean for sessions efuture and the russian investigation. hey!
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s. >> that's for being with me. on health care there. but listen, he's not the only one, from the white house speaking out today. was hi son-in-law, jarrell kushner. yes. talking, and not just at the podium, but also before a senate panel today explaining his interaction, and here's the key piece, he is denies any cow lucien denies him or anyone else as far as he knows. soon after kushner med with senate investigators, he said this in front of a lot of cameras he w