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anthony scaramucci got in there. we haven't seen a change on that level. what's your guess? >> yeah, we certainly haven't. i think we've even seen a series of pretty significant tweet storms even by trump standards in the last couple days since anthony scaramucci has been appointed. i think we'll see a little bit of a different style in terms of how scaramucci approaches these versus how sean spicer approached them. we saw spicer waiver between, i fully back what the president says here or i'll let the tweets speak for themselves. scaramucci feels comfortable in that medium, mostly because he has a better relationship with the president. he understands how he thinks and works a lot better. i think we've already seen anthony scaramucci come out and say, listen, this is what the president is tweeting and amplifying that message rather than trying to moderate it in some way or simply let it stand and let reporters' questions continue to fuel themselves. >> strong point,
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smerconish-esque, i would suggest. hiding from the obvious is always a mistake. gentlemen, thank you for your perspective as always. thanks to you, our international viewers for watching. for you, cnn "newsroom" is next. for our u.s. viewers, there is big news to start your "new day." let's get after it. >> any senator who votes against repeal and replace, they are fine with the obamacare nightmare. >> we know aca is not perfect. what you proposed is much worse. >> let's trust each other. rets return to regular order. >> we have lost an important battle today, but we have not yet lost this war. >> if there's any person on capitol hill that has been loyal to the president, it's jeff sessions. >> how do you appoint the guy and then humiliate him. >> the attorney general is doing a fine job. >> with the exception of abraham lincoln, i can be more presidential than any president --
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>> donald trump is presidential in the same way that kid rock will be senatorial. >> this is "new day" with quchr cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> a shot at one of your favorites, kid rock. >> up first, one step forward, another step back for gop senators. they voted to begin debate over health care. their first vote on the plan to repeal and replace obamacare failed. nine republicans voting against that first major proposal. the senate continues debate today on a repeal with a two-year delay replacement plan. >> president trump is intensifying public attacks over his attorney general jeff sessions. the president started z this and seeded this discussion about whether or not sessions is out and now is say, well, he doesn't know whether or not sessions has to go. he does call the russian investigation and sessions' recusal unfair to the presidency. cnn has everything covered for you. let's begin with cnn's suzanne
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malveaux live on capitol hill. >> reporter: good morning, chris. senate republicans obviously achieving a victory, important legislative victory, but the challenge of uniting the party around replacing and repealing obamacare very illusive. the first proposal offering $100 billion in medicaid to satisfy the moderates and bear bones insurance plans to satisfy the conservatives, well, it went down in flames. the republican effort to broker an agreement on health care suffering its first setback with the senate decisively rejecting the gop's most comprehensive replacement plan. nine republicans voting against the measure. >> the motion is not agreed to. >> reporter: the senate expected to take up today senator rand paul's proposal to repeal obamacare with a delay on the replacement plan for two years, a measure the cbo estimates will leave 32 million more americans uninsured and is also expected to fail.
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>> this is just the beginning. we're not out here to spike the football. this is a long way but we'll finish at the end of the week hopefully. >> reporter: the senate kicking off the health care debate with a tie-breaking vote from vice president mike pence. >> the vice president votes in the affirmative. >> reporter: pence casting the deciding vote after all democrats and two republicans voted against beginning debate. senator john mccain return to a hero's welcome after his brain cancer diagnosis, chastising republicans for the way they have gone about health care reform, but voting in favor of beginning debate and the first repeal and replace measure. the senate veteran delivering a scathing indictment of partisan politics paralyzing their chamber. >> stop listening to the bombastic loud mouths on the radio and television and the internet. to hell with them. let's trust each other. let's return to regular order. we've been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find a
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way to win without help from across the aisle. >> reporter: president trump taking a decisively different tone at a rally in ohio tuesday night. >> any senator who votes against repeal and replace is telling america that they are fine with the obamacare nightmare, and i predict they'll have a lot of problems. >> reporter: at a rose garden news conference, the president slammed the two republican senators who voted against beginning debate. >> we had two republicans that went against us which is very sad, i think. it's very, very sad for them. >> reporter: democrats pledging to keep the pressure on their republican colleagues as they fight to preserve president obama's signature health care law. >> we have lost an important battle today, but we have not yet lost this war. >> we are going to fight and fight and fight and fight until this bill is dead. >> reporter: so what's next? potentially up to 20 hours of debate over various republican
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proposals, then the senate goes into what's called a vote rama that allows any senator, democrat or republican to offer up any amendment, as many amendments as they like. that process goes as long as lawmakers can take it. alisyn? >> we have no idea how long that is, but we shall see suzanne. thank you very much for all of that background. meanwhile president trump is ramping up public criticism over attorney general zwref sessions. sources tell cnn top white house aides are urging the president to stop attacking sessions so publicly. the president will not say whether he will fire him. cnn joe johns is live at the white house with more. what have you learned about this, joe? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. this is rough stuff, harsh public criticism from the president and the attorney general's chief of staff sending a signal that he's not going anywhere. mean while, the strong base of conservative support that jeff sessions built during his years in the senate apparently standing up for him.
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>> i am disappointed in this attorney general. he should not have recused himself. >> reporter: president trump intensifying his public attacks on his embattled attorney general jeff sessions. >> i want the attorney general to be much tougher on the leaks from intelligence agencies. >> reporter: accusing him of not cracking down hard enough on leakers, disparaging sessions as weak. the president refusing to say if he'll fire his earliest and most loyal supporter, despite senior white house officials urging him to stand down. >> we will see what happens. time will tell. time will tell. >> make america great again. >> reporter: the president now questioning the reason sessions backed him, citing his campaign crowds in a new "wall street journal" interview. he was a senator from alabama. he looks at 40,000 people and probably says, what do i have to lose? and he endorsed me, so it's not like a great loyal thing about the endorsement.
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as uncertainty over sessions' fate consumes washington, some republicans are leaping to his defense. >> i think the attorney general is doing a fine job, and i think he made the right decision to recuse himself from the russia matter. >> he made the right decision to recuse himself. >> if there's any person on capitol hill that has been loyal to the president of the united states, it's jeff sessions. >> reporter: while others are saying it's up to the president. >> the president gets to decide what his personnel is. you know that. he's the executive branch for the legislative branch. he determines who is hired and fired in the executive branch. that's his conservative. >> reporter: even conservative media outlets breitbart and fox news. >> publicly attacking jeff sessions for all of that? that is nuts. >> reporter: the president striking back at critics who challenge his leadership style. >> with the exception of the late great abraham lincoln, i can be more presidential than any president that's ever held this office. that i can tell you.
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>> reporter: the recusal that opened the door to the appointment of special counsel robert mueller is at the root of this tension between the attorney general and the president. when asked yesterday by the "wall street journal" whether mueller's job is safe, the president essentially said he wasn't sure yet. back to you. >> thanks for all that reporting. let's bring in our panel, cnn political analyst john avlon, cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin and cnn politics reporter and editor at large chris cillizza. >> for the people who went to bed before 9:00 p.m. last night -- >> which is us. >> and i mean us. they have no idea where health care is. even if you stayed up past 9:00 p.m., you may have no idea. i have a helpful graphic to show everyone. this will clear it up. so they passed in the afternoon a motion to proceed, the senate did. then they had 20 hours of debate still in progress. then -- this sounds fun to me.
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there will be a vote-a-rama. >> you think that involves drinks and dancing. sadly it doesn't. >> is there dancing? >> it's actually the least popular amusement park ride. >> there's only dancing around the issues. no actual cha-cha. >> we are on a roll. someone help us. john, where are we with health care? >> we are in a thicket of senate procedu procedures, a very popular thing for the american people to pay attention to. this matters. the procedural hurdle was cleared yesterday and today is going to be a series of votes and amendments to try and decide what actually the republican bill might be. but there still is a long way from consensus, there are competing plans. and this is, once again, the recurring theme of this era, not normal. >> let's put up another graphic that gives you some of the different slices of problems
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here facing the senate. repeal and replace in full is just a straight line item. failed and failed in a big way. more republican senators said no. repeal and delay which is getting traction, but is of very deep concern. why? because it creates an unknown. you'll get rid of what's there without knowing what comes next. could be the worst option. skinny repeal is a specific proposal of keeping it simple. graham/cassidy amendment keeps it simple. chris cillizza, john mccain said in full-throated fashion, very impressive given his current medical state, he comes up and makes an address, we need bipartisan effort. the democrats are boxed in in a rigged system right now with how this is being done. this is not the typical process of going through hearings and bringing in lots of different testimony and having debates and moving from subcommittee to
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committee and ruling committee, et cetera. these amendments are only as good as the gop majority wants them to be. isn't that the truth? >> john mccain, interesting you bring his name up. remember that after the most recent delay, before this vote yesterday, john mccain came out very quickly and said we need to go back to basics, we need to start over. we need to have a full committee process, an open amendment process. he voted yesterday to move forward on a process that is not, in fact, that. you're going to have a couple days of debate and amendments and then you're going to see whether republicans can get 50 votes for something which remains, in my opinion, very much in the air. the skinny repeal essentially getting rid of -- >> they only need 50 votes to shoot downey democrat amendments. >> that's right. >> every time someone suggests funding for medicaid, party line vote ends it. >> that's right.
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they can let a susan collins oraclely murkowski or shelly moore capito, they can parcel it out so politically speaking you're not voting against all these things, but voting for all these things. they will get rid of any democratic amendment because they have the majority. the question for me is, is there anything beyond the motion to proceed that can get 50 republican votes to pass something? remember, this thing was very close to dead in the water 72 hours ago. mccain's decision to come back gives it momentum, helping bring a few wavering members on. i'm not sure if you give mitch mcconnell truth serum yesterday and said, is there any other proposal that has anything to do with health care that you can get 50 votes for right now, i think the answer might be no. >> jeffrey toobin, let's talk about your name sake, jeff
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sessions. >> although his name is jefferson. my name is jeffrey. >> i did not know that. >> mr. smarty pants. >> another top story. and whether jefferson sessions is long for this post. just to remind people of how devoted and how much jeff sessions put himself out there for then candidate donald trump, he was the first one to support donald trump. this is february 28th, i believe, right before super tuesday. let's remember what jeff sessions said there. >> i think of a great man and want to introduce you to him. you know who i'm talking about? who am i talking about? nobody knows right now because we've kept it a surprise, senator jeff sessions. >> we need to make america great again. i am pleased to endorse donald trump for the presidency of the
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united states. >> jeff, yesterday president trump had a different take on why jeff sessions did that on that day, not that he was making a bold proclamation of president trump but this is what the president told the "wall street journal." when they say he endorsed me, i went to alabama. i had 40,000 people. he was a senator from alabama. he looks at 40,000 people and he probably says, what do i have to lose and he endorsed me. so it's not like a great loyal thing about the endorsement, but i'm very disappointed in jeff sessions. >> it's just a total lie. whatever you think of jeff sessions, he did take a political risk. he was the first senator to endorse donald trump. he didn't do it because there were 40,000 people there. jeff sessions had perhaps the safest seat in the united states state. he has been an extremely loyal supporter and someone who has advanced the president's policy agenda more than just about any other cabinet member, limiting
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civil rights, voting rights, you can argue about whether this is a good thing. it's certainly the trump agenda. what it's all about is russia and how fixated the president is on the unfairness he proceeds of this investigation and he blames sessions for it. policy doesn't matter. >> it raises the question of whether playing checkers is a smart move in a chess game involvings is. he is why. if you don't get rid of sessions, mueller comes out with his findings and it is -- we found this and this, but nothing really major. he is a back stop for president trump. if he removes sessions and you put in someone else who is invariably going to be seen as a dupe, when mueller comes out
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with that finding and the ag reports -- mueller doesn't have to report to us. he only has to report to the ag, and it comes out there's nothing there, it will be suspicious. if sessions were there, and he has recused himself, it gives an air of legitimacy to that finding that the president may lose the benefit of the he gets rid of sessions. yes or no? >> yes, absolutely. i always thought for republicans and donald trump -- but especially congressional republicans hoping to get beyond this at some point, the special counsel is the best possible option in that, if bob mueller comes out and says we looked into it, there was some stuff here that wasn't great, but there's no crimes here. there's no collusion. that's the only possible way i think in the american public's eyes that they get beyond this issue. again, chris, this goes to the point, we have a tendency, and because he won, when most people
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thought he wouldn't -- most people includes me -- to think he's playing three-dimensional chess at all times. i think it's at least as likely he's playing zero-dimensional chess that he says and does things and sees how they land and then he positions off of that. this idea that everything he's doing is part of this grand strategy and he has this white board, this connects to this over here, he sees all the things we don't see, i'm not sure the first six months of his presidency bears that out. >> i'm pretty sure it's self-evident this isn't about grand strategy. this is impulse-driven, improvisational. it's such a force of power that it causes people to react. >> how about twister as the game. remember that? >> guess what happens at the end of twister? you always fall over. >> never, not once. death first. >> i always fall over. >> only abraham lincoln was a
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better twister player than chris cuomo. >> oh, my gosh, we've run off the rails. panel, thank you all. coming up in our next hour, we'll talk about all this and more with the new white house communications director anthony scaramucci. stick around for that. they talked about repealing and replacing obamacare for seven years. you're seeing that as why they don't have to do the true pom grags. they've already had that discussion. really? what if they don't have a land to replace what is there right now? what will that mean to you? a republican lawmaker makes the case next. at the lexus golden opportunity tesales event before it ends. choose from the is turbo,
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president trump taking on a fellow republican who voted against beginning debate on health care. the president tweeting just moments ago, zmat tore lisa murkowski of the great state of alaska really let the republicans and our country down yesterday. too bad. it comes after the senate failed to advance a plan last night to repeal and replace obamacare. remember, the president has not been clear on what he thinks the
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right plan for america is. in fact, he called something like what they voted on last night mean. joining us now, republican congressman steve king of iowa. what do you make of the president going after fellow party members? >> he's not a polished politician. and i'm sure he's not familiar with the massive egos that pack this cabinet right now. i wish he hadn't done that. there's a lot more subtle ways to get done what you need donement some of that is look at them in the eye and ask them for their commitment. >> do you think it's just about politi politics. aren't some of these tactics about character, personality, not about knowing the way to do things. this is about dealing with people. that doesn't change when you're in politics? >> i would say, also, i've been involved with and tracked along
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with the trump campaign for a long time. we started back -- between january of 2015. so i saw some of these things pop up then. he was pretty tough on his political opponents out of 17 candidates and the republican side of this. he seemed to be able to throw those insults out and pull that back again and somehow end up with people's support. but this arena here now, there's a lot at stake and i think the president is frustrated. if he'd restrained himself a little more, perhaps he could be a little more successful. >> would it also help if the president had been more clear about what he thinks the plans should be, what the policy should be, all he's said so far is inaction is not an option. he called the repeal and replace mans coming out of the house mean, as you'll remember. he hasn't said what he doesn't think would be mean. >> i know that that's -- the president doesn't have a clear bill out there that he has his fingerprints on. he's asking us to shape it.
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it's so very complex, i understand that. he also early on in this session, and i'll say early february, sent out the message that he didn't want a repeal-only bill on his desk. he wanted a repeal and replacement. we couldn't put them in the same bill and have two bills laying there at the same time. i got that message pretty clearly from some of his people. yet now he'd be willing to accept a repeal only. i think that's the most likely bill to come out of the senate, giving us two years to put the replacement pieces in. i always thought it would be wise are to bring one rifle shot at a time of the repairs that are there than all of it in one bill. the more cautious are the members of the united states senator the house as the case may be. they want to know the public is behind them. >> how can the people get behind something that they don't know
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about? if all you're going to present them with is what you have now is gone, we're phasing it out and we don't know what we're going to replace it with, why would you expect support? >> because i would say this, that the public understands this now, if we reach an impasse where repeal and replace has been turned down by the house -- by the senate, and the piece that came out of the house was so brutally negotiated in the end that people didn't know what was in that, in the piece we sent to the senate. now we're sitting there -- i would want to say let's clear the decks, do what people can understand in a pace where they can learn what's going on and weigh in what's going on. that would be the repeal component, everybody would get that done and get insurance across state laws, tort reform bill. my bill that passed the house several weeks ago, full deductible for health insurance premiums, we can get full market
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solutions out of that. we need to get rid of the mandates, especially the individual mandate and the employer mandate. that's a government stakeover. i think people want their -- >> it's fundmental to how to keep costs down. if you take away all these things and say we're figure it out later, how do i know i'm going to be able to get health care, how do i know what i'm depending on, whether it's pre-existing conditions or lifetime caps which almost all these suggestions want to get rid of or that i need the supplemental help in the form of subsidies or medicaid which is tens of millions of people, if you're taking it away and not seeing how you'll replace it, how would i support that? >> the reason -- i don't know if you would. >> i'm saying -- thank god turner is giving us good insurance so i'm not at the mercy of the lawmakers. but there's policy increases even to us as a result of what you do. >> i'm family and friends and
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constituents, 750,000 of them, most of whom are affected by this and that's who you're addressing. i did a telephone town hall and asked this question, if we repealed obamacare and did nothing except just take it back to the way it was, and i'm not suggesting this as my proposed policy, but i asked the question to find out where people stood. if we just repealed it and did nothing else, i had people given three choices, would we be better off, much better off or the worse off. the better off and much better off came to the 50th percentile. we call that a landslide if it were election result, 57% to 44. so there are people out there that would rather go back to the way it was. i'm going to say let's do the repeal. that will take us back the way it was and let's make it better than free market solutions. >> for the aca by almost any metric, things were worse. you may have a small sample that
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says that. when you talk to the experts and the different groups involved, you're knot going to get a lot of support with that kind of proposition. let's see what they come up with the senate and i'll come back to you and we'll test it. >> i look forward to doing that, chris. >> congressman, be well. >> you, too. thank you. up next, we'll get the other side. democratic senator will tell us about the democrat's role in this health care debate. do they have a plan or are they sitting back watching the gop chaos play out? we'll find out. fast relief in every bite. crunchy outside. chewy inside. tum tum tum tum new tums chewy bites. ...better than a manual, and my hygienist says it does. but... ...they're not all the same. turns out, they're really... ...different. who knew? i had no idea. so, she said look for... that's shaped like a dental tool with a round... ...brush head. go pro with oral-b. oral-b's rounded brush head surrounds each tooth to... ...gently remove more plaque and... ...oral-b crossaction is clinically proven to...
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we're now one step closer to liberating our citizens from this obamacare nightmare and delivering great health care for the american people. we're going to do that. >> that was president trump celebrating the senate voting to debate a health care plan, but just minutes after that speech, the senate failed to advance a plan to repeal and replace obamacare. joining us now is democratic
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senator sherrod brown of ohio. good morning, senator. >> good to be back, thanks. >> what are you democrats doing while all this plays out on the republican side? >> we continue to ask the senate leader to sit down and work this through bipartisanly. there's no desire in this country, 15%, 20% support for repeal of the affordable care act. every version of this was written in his office by the drug company, insurance company lobbyists, wall street lobbyists. it has huge tax breaks for the insurance and drug companies. i stand with governor kasich in saying you don't take insurance away from this many people in order to give a tax cut to the special interest groups, instead you sit down as senator mccain said yesterday, we should sit down and work out relatively minor changes to the affordable care act to work and make it better. >> senator mccain did come back
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from his brain surgery and he did make that impassed plea for bipartisanship and collaboration. so is there any collaboration happening? when you say you keep approaching the leader, what is the response to getting democrats involved? >> the response from the republican leader is continue to slam the door, to invite in a small number of republican senators, to invite in the drug company, insurance company lobbyists, just down the hall from the senate floor and continue to try to jam a bill through that the public duts doesn't want, but his big contributors want, the people who fund the republican party. eventually senator mcconnell will begin to listen to the american public, begin to sit down with democrats. we know what we need to do. you find ways to bring in young, healthy americans into the insurance pool. you stabilize the insurance markets. you go after the high cost of prescription drugs. we ought to consider doing what we almost did ten years ago,
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allowing medicare 55 to 64-year-old buy-anywhere people lose their jobs or health care, getting sick at 58 or 60 years old before eligible for medicare, let them buy in to medicare. those are things we should be thinking about, not ripping insurance from 20 million americans. >> are you telling us when you go to the senate leader, to mitch mcconnell and say we want to talk about lowering the cost of prescription drugs. we want to talk about all the things that you just outlined, that there's no response, that you don't get a seat at the table? >> well, there's no response. there is no seat at the table for anybody but those lobbyists that benefit from this. keep in mind his plan is not just take insurance from people, but every estimate from the congressional budget office, the only sort of fair minded non-partisan arm of this whole operation says that premiums are over time going to double and millions of people lose their insurance. so it's clearly not -- this bill won't work, the republican leaders still, because their
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major contributors are still pushing them to repeal and replace and give them this big tax cut, they're still pushing forward. eventually the public is going to insist and mcconnell is going to finally have to say let's do what john mccain said yesterday, let's do this bipartisanly. anything big congress has ever done, social security in roosevelt's days, medicare in johnson's days, three or four years later, both parties sat down bipartisanly and worked out changes that needed to be made because there are always issues that need to be made after passing a big like the affordable care act. >> from where you sid, what health care plan will americans have six months from now? >> i don't know. what concerns me greatly is they keep injecting uncertainty into this market. it affects -- insurance prices will go up. other insurers will pull out. i talk to people in ohio all the
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time, there are 200,000 people in ohio getting opioid treatment who are getting treatment because of the affordable care act. i talked to a father in cincinnati who said his daughter would be dead if it was president for that. people are alarmed and scared about what republicans are going to do to their health insurance. that's why we need to dispose of this, sit down, quit scaring people, do what governor kasich, a republican and i, we could sit down and write a bill and fix this if senator mcconnell would allow people to do that. >> another issue, obviously, today is what's the status and fate of attorney general jeff sessions. if i can ask you to make another prediction. will jeff sessions be in his job a month from no u? >> i assume notment i've never seen somebody -- whether it's head of a company or president of the united states trash an employee like this. i can't imagine the tension in the cabinet room when the president brings together
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everybody in his cabinet. i don't understand -- the only thing that i like that sessions has done is the only thing that trump hates that sessions has done, he followed the law and recused himself. i'm not a lawyer, but every lawyer i know says he did the legal and ethical thing. i assume he fires him and tries to put in giuliani or one of his cronies, or christie, somebody like that, somebody bombastic that will do trump's bidding and sneak him in in august under a recess appointment. >> senator sherrod brown, thank you very much for all your thoughts on what's happening today and in the future. great to have you here. chris. >> a critical election in venezuela. that country has been on the verge of civil war. some would say it's actually tipped over the verge. we have a live report on that crisis next. day 13. if only this were as easy as saving $600
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the bigger story for the rest of the week is slightly cooler air coming down. for new york and boston, warmer than the past couple days, the cool air doesn't make its way into chicago, kansas city and omaha, even 83. well over 100 with the heat index the past couple days. slightly cooler are we to the top of summer, i think so. we begin to go down from here. the days get shorter and the nights get cooler. >> starting to see some of the temperature swings where i live. in the 60s this morning, mid 70s this afternoon. chad, thank you very much. down in venezuela, a critical election going onset for sunday there. the crisis in venezuela continues to get worse. the crime rate is soaring, the economy is collapsing, the president, nicholas maduro scheduling a vote to elect a new assembly and redraft that country's constitution. critics are calling it a
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dangerous power grab. let's get to cnn's leyla santiago live in caracas with the latest. >> reporter: to chris, those opposing the government are calling for a 48-hour strike. when you would usually see cars out and about, cars at a standstill, what we are seeing on the roads are closures. what else we see, devastation, desperation, people actually going through trash as they try to find something to eat. as we walked the streets yesterday, it was actually difficult to find a pile of trash with unopened bags because everyone had been sort of rummaging through as a way of survival, as a way to find food, given the food and medical shortages. i talked to one woman who became very excited when she found an empty jar that she could just sort of scrape the chocolate for
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food. clearly the food shortages, the medical shourd tajs, the instability in the economy is causing people to get out onto the streets, not only for survival, but also to give a voice to the protests that we've been seeing against this election on sunday, even though we have seen people on both sides, those speaking for the government and those speaking against it. everyone just wanting a change that could bring peace to venezuela. chris? >> leyla, thank you very much for all the reporting from there. six months into the trump administration, a whistle-blower comes forward. a government scientists says something is not right in his department. why he's blowing the whistle on the trump administration next. t. they really appreciate the military family, and it really shows. we've got auto insurance, homeowners insurance. had an accident with a vehicle, i actually called usaa before we called the police. usaa was there hands-on
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a government scientist and nearly 50 other employees were reassigned. this after they spoke out about climate change. he has now filed two complaints to be reassigned. he joins us now. >> thanks for having me. >> why do you call yourself a whistle blower. >> i was retaliated against by the trump administration about my work. to help the alaska native communities address the impacts of climate change. >> what was it you were saying they took offense to? >> this is something that needs
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to happen right away. i believe they're one superstorm away from being wiped off the face of the earth. >> their life and lifestyle is changing because you believe of climate chamg. it's obvious to them and you. that this is causing great upheaval in their lives. >> no question. regardless how you feel. these impacts are not a policy debate. it's a hiealth issue. >> what makes you think that your reassignment was actually retaliation? >> there have been other moves that have clued us in that this work was not in favor. president trump rescind the the north bearing sea executive order a month in a of or so before we received these letters. >> you just wrote an op ed in the column in "the washington post." i want a read a rgs po.
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you say trump and the interior secretary. they can't keep me from speaking out. they might refuse to respond to the reality of climate change but their abusive power cannot go unanswered. that's obviously a strong accusation. what do you mean the interior secretary's abuse of power. >> well the secretary is the only senate confirmed official at the department of the interior so he's responsible for these actions. there's been a systemic abuse of power. getting -- >> so when you say that scientists like yourself have been purged from your jobs, have you been reassigned to? >> they reassigned mead to the accounting office that collects royalty revenue in oil and gas industry. >> is accounting four specialty. >> i have no expertise in accounting. >> how do they explain, that you, a scientist who was speaking out about climate change is now going fob working in an accounting office.
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>> they didn't explain. i didn't hear from them prior or after the reassignment about why they put me there. >> what do you want everyone listening to know today but what's happening to you? and you're not alone. you say this is happening to other colleagues as well. >> yeah. i think it's important to speak out. this is a very systemic abuse of power. the biggest concern is it's putting the health and safety of america last. especially those alaska natives. >> is your feeling president trump and ryan do not want to hear about these alaskian villages? why would they be silencing you about a disaster impending. >> it misty fis me given this is a risk. it's a bipartisan risk that the senator and governor in alaska are all in favor of protecting these folks. >> what's happened to your other colleagues?
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they're about 50 of you? who have been reassigned? >> yeah. there were dozens of folks that received those letters. they've been -- some across the country. involuntarily at taxpayer expense. >> the interior department has released a statement. the president signed an executive order to reorganize the federal government for the future and secretary has been absolutely out front on that issue. senior executives are the highest paid employees in the federal government and signed up not senior executive service knowing they could be called upon to work in different positions at any time. congress meant for the senior executive service to be a mobile force capable of taking on different assignments to meet the needs of the agency. >> that's right. we all know it when we sign up. it's a mobile service, meant to be effective that way. its -- what is not appropriate is for that to be done in
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retaliation or to coerce employees into fitting. that's why i filed it. >> but, again, you are putting the dots together. but nobody has told you that it's in h retaliation. of. >> of course. >> you spoke out and suddenly you were reassigned to the accounting department. >> that's correct. >> with are you going to lose your job for being on cnn today and talking about this publicly. >> i can't spaeculate. i have tro trust the investigate. i'm able to get back to doing meaningful work. >> did anyone tell you verbally we don't like the work you're doing and don't want you to talk about these endangered alaska communities. >> no. they never communicated with us since the transition into the new administration and we heard very little. there's been radio silence from the political leadership. >> what do you think their
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position is. >> i dare not speculate. i think we heard enough from the president that they're suspicious of the causes of climate change but regardless of how you feel about that scientifically proven, there are people on the brink in alaska. >> are you going to take the job in the accounting office. >> i accepted the position. i feel strongly about being in the civil service but i hope the investigation will lead to me getting back no meaningful work. >> i want to read one more quote. you say i'm a scientist, a policy expert, a civil servant and a worried citizen. reluctantly, as of today i am also a whistle blower on an administration that chooses silence over science. >> what do you mean by that? >> the -- there was a good report released last week that references this. there's a systemic abuse of power in not just purging
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scientists from the -- and taking them away from the table, but creating a hostile work environment for folks like that. so there are a lot of people walking around the department looking over their shoulder wondering if they're next. >> we really appreciate you being on telling your side of the story. keep us posted with the investigations. >> thanks for having me on. we're following a lot of news including a live interview with the white house's new communications director anthony scaramucci. let's get right to it. >> we have a duty to act. the president's ready with his pen. . >> we have two republicans this went i l. against us. it's very sad. >> did i think i can say without any hesitancy there's nobody in the united states senate who has a clue what's going on. >> we're getting nothing done, my friends. we're getting nothing done. >> very disappointed with the attorney general. but we will see what happens. time will tell. time will tell. >> you get the loyalty you give
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in life. >> loyalty is a one-way street with donald trump. >> the president and attorney general sessions need to work this out. >> this is about rule of law, not the rule of trump. >> this is new day with chris cuomo and alison. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is wednesday, july 26, now 8:00 in new york. senate republicans are going to continue debating the future of health care in america in just hours. the senate failed to advance a plan to repeal and replace obamacare last night. nine republicans voted against it. the today, they're going to vote on a plan to repeal with with a two year delay in replacement meaning people would lose something and not know what comes next. >> meanwhile president trump is intensifying his public attacks on jeff sessions. the president refuses to say whether he'll fire him calling the recusing unfair to the
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presidency. >> there's a lot to talk about. let's bring in the man in the middle, the new white house communications director anthony scaramucci. i haven't had a chance on television to congratulate you on the new position. >> thanks, chris. >> good luck and i hope you serve the people of this country well. >> i appreciate that, chris. thank you. so go ahead. i heard the introduction i'm ready for you. >> that's your job is to be ready. let's talk about what matters. health care. the president says an action is not an option. he is banging on members of his own party, most recently senator merkowski from alaska this morning saying she did her own constituents a disservice. it raises the question, how did she do her constituents a disservice? the bill that is out there right now, these kind of bald replacements, repeal statutes without understanding what the replacement is, the president


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