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imminent risk of death at one point. he underwent several surgeries, but now the medical center that treated him said he has made big improvements in his health and we wish the best for him. we turn it over to wolf blitzer in the situation room. happening now, breaking news. kicked out? president trump announces a major change in military policy over twitter. reinstating the ban on transgender people serving in the u.s. military. but the white house can't answer the question. what does it mean for transgender troops on active duty right now? tweet emotions. the president lashes out on twitter with new attacks on the acting attorney general and now with health care reform. can white house top aides persuade the president to curb his on-line outrage. fail and fail again. another health care bill just
died in the u.s. senate with seven republicans joining democrats in opposing the bill for health care. will any of the bills pass? and nuclear capable? u.s. intelligence now believes north korea could have a missile able to deliver a nuclear strike within a year. will washington move to stop the regime's quest for a weapon of mass destruction? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. we're following breaking news. right now the white house is unable to answer questions about the impact of a major military policy change unexpectedly announced by president trump today on twitter. he's reviving the ban on transgender people serving in the military despite his campaign promises to fight for the lgbt community. president trump is scheduled to speak this hour. also, new attacks by the president on the top justice
official at about the same time the attorney general jeff sessions was at the white house for meetings, the president criticized him for not firing acting fbi director andrew mccabe. the president has been very clear about his feelings toward sessions and did not see him today. there is more breaking news. another defeat for the senate republican after it killed obamacare. lawmakers have finished voting on a bill that would only repeal the obamacare instead of replacement. seven republicans joined democrats to kill it. a source tells cnn intelligence now shows the kim jong-un regime could have an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching the united states as soon as next year. we're covering all of that. much more this hour with our guests, including congressman eric swalwell of the house
intelligence committee. our intelligence is also standing by. let's begin with the president's surprise decision to reinstate the ban on transgender people serving in the military. our senior white house correspondent jeff zelany is joining us. jeff, the white house can't say what impact this major policy decision will have on active duty transgender service members. >> reporter: wolf, answers here, specific answers, were in very short supply today to that question of what happens to transgender marines, soldiers, sailors already deployed. the white house simply could not say. all of this coming a year after donald trump stood at the republican convention and said he would do everything in his power to protect lgbt citizens. today the white house referring questions to the pentagon, the pentagon referring questions back here all have the air of somebody trying to change the subject. the white house struggling tonight to answer questions about president trump's surprise announcement, forbidding
transgender americans from serving in the u.s. military. the president reversing an obama administration policy with little explanation, saying on twitter, after consultation with my generals and military experts, please be advised the united states government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the u.s. military. those words surprised many at the pentagon and sparked confusion that the new white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders had trouble officiating. >> the rest were informed as well as the national security team that had been part of this ongoing conversation. >> reporter: the white house unable to clarify whether transgender service members would be removed from their post. >> that's something the members of defense and the white house will have to work on together. this was about military service, this was about military
readiness, this was about cohesion in the military and nothing more. >> reporter: under persistent questions, sanders finally said she had nothing else to say about a major policy change. >> i'll keep you posted, but if those are the only questions we have, i'm going to call it a day. >> reporter: all this as the white house dealt with more fallout from the president's ongoing attack on attorney general jeff sessions. sessions leading the white house today, refusing to give in to a withering week-long assault from the president. at the very hour sessions was in the west wing for a routine meeting not with the president, mr. trump leveled another broadside to his attorney general. the president criticized him for not removing andrew mccabe as acting director of the fbi. why didn't agent sessions replace acting director andrew mccabe? i got big dollars for his wife's political run from hillary clinton and her representatives. drain the swamp.
>> look, you can be disappointed in someone but still want them to continue to do their job, and that's where they are. >> reporter: would you wadoes h that job? >> i think i made clear if there comes a point that he doesn't, we'll let you know. >> reporter: from senator hatcher in utah. >> i don't fully understand why the president said what he said, but i think jeff deserves better treatment. >> reporter: to senator richard shelby who, like sessions, is an alabama republican. >> he's not the president's personal lawyer, he's attorney general of the united states. he took an oath to the constitution, not to the president. and i think the president needs to realize that. >> reporter: now, wolf, this evening several republican senators are also raising sharp questions and criticism of that major policy he announced about
transgender members of the military. senator john mccain, of course, in the armed services committee saying any able-bodied american should be able to serve in their military. so he's critical of that as well as other republican senators, wolf, so this is something that is going to be very controversial going forward, the implementation as well as the politics of this one. >> lots of criticism of the president's position. jeff zelany at the white house, thank you. let's get more of the uncertainty of the ban on transgender troops. let's go to barbara starr at the pentagon. she's working this for us. again and again, they were unable to say if members of the armed forces currently serving would be kicked out, which is what the president's tweet suggested. is there any clear understanding where you are at the pentagon right now about what this new policy means? >> reporter: that's really the point, wolf, there is no understanding. this was the making of military policy, if you will, by the
president on twitter. the u.s. military operates by rules, regulations and military law, directives. none of that, no guidance from the white house about what this all means. you saw the press secretary say the white house and the pentagon will now work together, but the concern is that for those who are currently serving, estimated between 13 to 6600, a relatively small number given the size of the military. what happens to these people? will they be forcibly booted out, to be clear, from the u.s. military? will they even get an honorable discharge? will this be legal? what will happen to them? perhaps, though, underneath all of this, the most compelling thing that sanders said was secretary james mattis was informed. we do not know if he agreed, we do not know if the joint chiefs were informed because while all of this was happening this morning, the pentagon had
long -- mattis had long said he wanted to take six months with the chiefs and figure out a way ahead on all of this. so the military advice the president had was take six months, let's figure it all out. the president this morning rejected that military advice very clearly, put his foot down and said these people cannot serve in the use ice mi.s. mili. >> they had only been deliberating for one month, they had five months to go. this was a military decision citing high costs, lack of cohesion. had you heard those complaints at the pentagon? >> reporter: the military has not offered any comprehensive, if you will, evidence that there is a problem with a unit cohesi cohesive. they estimated maybe $8 million in medical costs compared to the $48 billion in the pentagon's
health care bill. there's been no indication. could there be amicable evidence out there? yes. could there be people who object to this? yes. but again, the u.s. military operates by rules, regulation and military law. this may be the first time it's been told to operate by twitter, wolf. >> all right, barbara. thank you very much, barbara starr at the pentagon. eric swalwell is joining us. he's a member of the judiciary committee. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me back, wolf. >> let's get your reaction of the president's important announcement on twitter banning transgender americans from serving in the military. what's your reaction? >> it shouldn't matter who you are, wolf, only who you are for, and if you're for the united states, you should be able to serve in our armed services. this takes us very ver, very
backwards. he's also wrong about any costs it would incur on our military. the american medical association and studies on this show that the costs would be minimal. i also want to tell you the will of the house of representatives is to oppose this. we voted on similar amendment last week. that was defeated. this is wrong in so many ways, including that he didn't even tell the pentagon, it seems, about it, or go through any of the formal processes to implement something like this. >> you heard all the speculation out there that the president made this surprise announcement this morning on twitter in order to change the subject from some of the other sensitive issues he's been facing. what do you think? >> that's a very reckless way to govern. there are many more important decisions he has to make right now, including what we do about north korea, which you mention mentioned in your opening. including how do we get people back to work? he talked to people last night about better skills, better jobs and a better future, and i don't see any of that. this is quite a reckless way to
lead our country. >> let's talk about some other important issues. the president once again attacking the attorney general of the united states, jeff sessions again on twitter. if president trump were to fire the attorney general, what impact would that have on the investigation currently being conducted by your committee? >> well, i support president trump firing attorney general sessions not for the misguided reasons that he wants to fire him, though. i think because he was not forthcoming with the senate and because he was involved with james comey's firing, he can't leave the department of justice. now, what this would trigger, though, would be the senate would have to confirm a new attorney general. i think this is an opportunity for republicans and democrats to unite, act as a co hehesiv heehf government. >> do you believe that this would lead to the firing of robert mueller?
>> i don't want to speculate on that. i believe for different reasons sessions should go. also donald trump wants him gone because sessions won't go after his political opponents and because he took himself out of the russia investigation. so again, that shows you the intent of donald trump with respect to the russia investigation. >> the president also attacked the acting fbi director, andrew mccabe, falsely alleging some financial contributions for mccabe's wife who was running for office in virginia directly from hillary clinton. he received funding -- she received some funding, i should say, from the government, terry mcauliffe, from virginia, not mccabe. do you believe he's messing with law enforcement? >> he's being a bully, but fbi agents are not going to be bullied. it's very destructive for morale to make those false allegations
about the fbi acting director right now, but wolf, i know that the men and women who serve our country from the street to the agent level, they're not going to be bullied by this president. it's bad -- it's a bad look for america right now. >> congressman swalwell, there's more we need to discuss. there's new information coming into the situation room. we'll take a quick break and resume our coverage right after this. hi, i'm joan lunden with a place for mom every day we hear from families who partnered with a senior living advisor from a place for mom to help find the perfect place for their mom or dad
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along with the rest of the house judiciary committee. his word, productive. how would characterize kushner's testimony? >> i would say it was a good day for the committee. we're making progress, redeeming credibility and showing independence. there are a lot of questions about donald trump, his family, his team and what the contacts with russia meant, especially now that we have all read the don jr. e-mails. so we made progress on that? >> was he straightforward? was he honest? >> i said i wouldn't say anything until we issue a report. he answered all the questions and we'll put it in context with other witness documents hopefully soon. >> i think he was there about three hours so ied a lot of que. in his statement released on monday, congressman, jared
kushner had this to say about last summer's meeting at trump tower in new york in which members of the trump campaign were promised damaging information on hillary clinton from the russian government. let me put it up on the screen. no part of the meeting i attended included anything about the campaign. there was no follow-up to the meeting that i am aware of. i do not recall how many people were there or their names, and i have no knowledge of any documents being offered or accepted. do you have any reason to doubt kushner's claim that there was no follow-up to that meeting at trump tower? >> well, wolf, what i will tell you we are seeking to understand is, does it make sense that he did not read an e-mail that set up that meeting whose subject line was "clinton, russia, private and confidential." he didn't read anything on that e-mail about the russians offering information to help the trump campaign, but the e-mail he said in that same statement he did read on october 30, ten days before the election, was a spam-like e-mail about trump's
tax returns and that's the e-mail he claimed he read and turned over to the government. so the question here is does it make sense with respect to all the other evidence we have here now, and that's what we're seeking to figure out, wolf. >> do you believe he needs to come back and answer more follow-up questions? >> yes. three hours was kind of the tip of the iceberg. we are still waiting for documents to be produced and certainly other witnesses are providing testimony that will raise more and more questions. so yes, he told us he will. i'll take him at his word and look forward to seeing him again. >> congressman eric swalwell, thank you so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. coming up, we'll have more on the breaking political news. how long can the white house dodge questions about the impact of president trump's tweets. plus a warning about how rapidly kim jong-un's missile program is making progress.
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we're following multiple breaking stories right now, including the white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders repeatedly dodging questions about what happens to transgender members of the u.s. military. president trump tweeted this morning the united states will not accept or allow transgender americans to serve in the u.s. military at any capacity. let's bring in our specialists. brianna, let me start with you. this was a complete surprise, including to a lot of folks over at the pentagon and the white house can't answer a simple question. what happens to the thousands of u.s. troops, transgender u.s. troops, currently serving? are they about to be kicked out? >> yeah, barbara starr mentioned earlier, this had been a subject that had been discussed with general mattis and had six
months to come up with an affirmative decision as to what they would do regarding this issue. obviously this seems to have taken a lot of people, including the the pentagon, by surprise. there is a political report suggesting that this had to do with a spending bill and an argument within the republican party as to whether or not they would be funding these transgender operations. of course, people connecting this to the president and wanting to get his spending bill through and wanting to get his funding for the wall with mexico. if that is the case, one has to wonder to what extent and what degree will the president put his own priorities and his own campaign promises ahead of something that hasn't even been thoroughly planned out, and one can't even imagine what the repercussions of this would be for the military. obviously sarah huckabee sanders sort of filibustering her answers as well, not really wanting to talk about it.
at one point saying if there are no other questions, she would just end the briefing. still a lot of questions to be asked of the president. why did he do this now if it was to divert attention away from russia, if it was to divert attention away from health care, one would think the event he is attending now in wisconsin would be a better way to do that, bringing jobs back to the u.s. with an apple plant. >> he is at the white house involving a plant to be built in wisconsin. some suggested this is simply a political ploy designed to play to his base. his critics are saying that. >> if you think about a particular part of his base, and in many ways, the most fervent part of his base, evangelical christians, only 13% of that group supports lgbt rights. so i do think this certainly played well with his base. if you think about where his base has been over the last couple days, upset with this president over his treatment of jeff sessions, who has been
strong in terms of where conservatives think -- where they think conservatives should be in terms of lgbt rights. so i think he curried favor with those who were critical of him. >> this white house is full of surprises every day, and our dear walsh reports from capitol hill from leader sources that the republicans knew the white house was looking at the transgender military issue but only insofar as how it related to using taxpayer money for medical treatments. but not insofar as just changing the entire policy. and so i think they were surprised, i think it's very clear from barbara starr's reporting that the pentagon was surprised. we saw that briefing today where questions couldn not be answere. you have to ask a question, on something of this kind of
significance that was being studied at the pentagon that the defense secretary said he was studying, why do this and surprise your administration and republicans on capitol hill who, in fact, were just talking about the financial aspect of this? >> i think in the seventh month we're all getting used to the fact that donald trump is not going to conduct business the way we're used to conducting business. he is announcing big policy changes on twitter without lining up people in advance. it's clearly just the way he's going to operate. what was a bit surprising is that in the time frame he tweeted that to sarah huckabee sanders going out to the podium knowing she's going to get questions about it had no answers on the implementation. forget that you were surprised it was coming, but then where are the answers on how it will be implemented and there are none. >> brianna, as a former white
house correspondent, former pentagon correspondent, i know when there is a military decision by the commander in chief, and certainly the commander in chief, the president has a right to make major decisions. the announcement comes from the white house, maybe the rose garden or someplace else, but then there are extensive briefings, a lot of background work, additional briefings, specifics, over at the pentagon. the fact there was a tweet and nothing else from the white house or the pentagon, that's highly surprising. >> and it speaks to the pattern we've seen from this administration and this president sort of catching those close to him sometimes off guard as well. i know when he was sending that tweet this morning, that was the longest ellipsis of people wondering, what is he talking about? they thought maybe he was referencing military action he was going to take. this took a lot of people by surprise and we're still waiting to hear from the president to follow up on why he decided to
tweet and talk about this today. and obviously to get his perspective on what this means for the military at large. >> very quickly because i want to move on to other issues. but during the campaign the president often sold himself as a great champion of lgbt rights. how is this going to play on that? >> i mean, you've seen that lgbt groups have complained about where this president and where this administration has been, complaining about sessions, for instance. you saw today log cabin republicans also complain about this policy shift. and even other republicans, right? chuck grassley, people you might not necessarily expect to come out and say, everyone should be able to serve in the military. joanie joni ernst herself who served in the military. the republican party has come a long way in terms of lgbt
rights. president trump himself was someone manic about that, having somebody from the lgbt community speak at the republican national convention last summer. so i think, again, a lot of people in the lgbt community not pleased with this president, and this, ic think, will add to tha. >> let's talk about attorney general jeff sessions of the united states. once again the president tweeted about the a.g. he was in a meeting with other officials, didn't meet with the president. while he was there, though, the president was tweeting more criticism of him. the west wing all of us have been in. it's not a real big place. you could walk into the oval office pretty quickly. but it's amazing what's going on. >> and the president is known to have kind of an open door policy, to much chagrin from the white house office that he lets
people in frequently. the president doesn't want to talk to jeff sessions, he would probably like jeff sessions to quit. the democrats are now openly talking about a so-called recess appointment that the president could do when congress is out of session, and they're openly saying we're not going to let that happen, to let republicans know they might be onto their game here. it's a waiting game. >> i'm not sure many republicans would be eager to let that happen, either. >> so it's not just the democrats who would try to block it, a lot of republicans would think that's a bad idea as well. never mind the fact we haven't seen that kind of recess appointment in the last several years in this kind of high level position. it would invite so many problems for him. listen, jeff sessions has dug in, clearly. he has no desire to go anywhere. he's trying to force the president's hand here, and i think if you listen to anthony
scaramucci, the communications director this morning, i think he was providing jeff sessions a road map to follow about how to stay in your job. president trump likes a tough guy. get out there and jeff sessions is going to talk about leak investigations. it was as if here's the rule book of what you should be doing, attorney general sessions, to get back in favor with president trump. >> the president doesn't like thin skin, either. we'll see how that plays out. much more coming up. additional information we're getting. we'll be right back. take 5, guys. tired of your bladder always cutting into your day? you may have overactive bladder, or oab. that's it! we really need to get with the program and see the doctor. take charge and ask your doctor about myrbetriq (mirabegron)
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. in the east room president trump getting ready to speak. he's announcing that apple is opening a factory in wisconsin. let's listen in. >> we're getting a
lot done. governor walker has been so tremendous from the first time we announced that terry even had a small amount of interest in going into this country someplace. and, you know, when you give that to governor walker, it's pretty much of a done deal. ron johnson, senator. he's been so helpful to us. the only thing you haven't heard too much about recently, health care. and i think we're doing okay, ron. i'm hearing good things. i'm hearing good things. secretary mnuchin, secretary ross, all of the congressmen. great congressmen. and senators we have in the
audience, thank you very much. and thanks especially to my friend, one of the great businessmen anywhere in the world, terry goh. [ applause ] >> i would see terry and i would say, terry, you have to give us a couple of those massive -- these are massive places that you do such great work with, and he's going to be doing that in a state very close to my heart, wisconsin. we're very happy. one of the big job producers anywhere at any time, sco. so i know it's going to be
fantastic for the people. this is a great day for american workers and manufacturing and for everyone who believes in the concept and the label "made in the u.s.a." [ applause ] >> today i'm pleased to announce that foxconn, a world leader in manufacturing for computers, communications and consumer electronics, one of the truly great companies of the world, will build a state of the art manufacturing facility for the production of lcd panel products in wisconsin, investing many, many billions of dollars right here in america and creating thousands of jobs, and i mean american jobs. that's what we want. [ applause ]
>> another big investor in our country, steve wynwood. you stand up. he's raising so much money for our great republican party. andrea, please stand up. please. thank you. thank you, stoeve. you did a great job. you've done a great job, steve. thank you. foxconn will invest in southeast wisconsin while a larger facility is constructed over the coming years. and that facility is currently under negotiation. it will be about the biggest there is anywhere. the company's initial investment of more than $10 billion will create 3,000 jobs at a minimum with the potential for up to 13,000 jobs in the very near
future. the construction of this facility represents the return of lcd electronics and electronic manufacturing to the united states, the country we love. that's where we want our jobs. to make such an incredible investment, chairman goh put his faith and confidence in the future of the american economy. in other words, if i didn't get elected, he definitely would not be spending $10 billion. [ cheers and applause ] >> his great company has seen -- you see exactly what i'm seeing -- our administration's work to remove job-killing regulations. he's been watching. to institute by american and hire american. and all of those policies, and to pursue the steps necessary to
revitalize american industry, including repealing and replacing obamacare -- we better get that done, fellows. please. mike, we need that so badly -- cutting taxes, fixing our trade deals and rebuilding our infrastructure. we'll be submitting an infrastructure bill in the not very distant future. we're going to be submitting a tax bill in the very near future. [ applause [ applause ] >> when this investment is complete, foxconn has the potential to complete more manufacturing jobs than we've seen in many, many decades. chairman goh, i thank you for your investment in the american
worker. they appreciate it. they will not let you down. they never let us down. there is nobody like the american worker. terry goh told me that he believes in america. he really believes in america. and that is a great entrepreneur, one of the greatest in the world, by the way. he won't say it but i'll say it. one of the great entrepreneurs of the world. he has a real bond with the administration and with americans. foxconn joins a growing list of industry leaders who understand that america's capabilities are limitless and that america's workers are enmeshed and that america's most prosperous days are just ahead. we are going to have some very, very magnificent decades. thank you all for being here.
thank you t, terry, and thank y to foxconn. god bless the united states of america. god bless you all. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. [ applause ] >> there
he is, the president with the speaker of the house, paul ryan. from wisconsin, the vice president mike pence, the president announcing a major plant that's going to be built in wisconsin. you see the head of foxconn, terry goh, announcing his plant. it could be a $7 billion plant projected over the years, maybe 15,000 american jobs. the president promised he would bring jobs back, manufacturing jobs, back to the united states. he's doing that with this announcement in the east room of the white house. a lot of vips have gathered there. gloria, you have to give the president some credit for this, because he said if not for the president, he probably wouldn't be building that plant in wisconsin. >> this is what the president campaigned on doing. he said he was going to bring these jobs back to america, and
that's exactly what he's doing here. foxconn is a huge get tore the president. you see the state of wisconsin. this is great for the state of wisconsin. we should also point out there are taxpayer incentives involved here, and there are reports of $1.3 billion in incentives that foxconn is getting in return for building this, and so uit's goig to cost the taxpayer some money, but as you balance it out, it's also going to create a lot of jobs. >> a lot of jobs, like he said, in a place he really converted what had been traditional democratic territory in one of those surprise states of the election and now is working to solidify that politically with this policy. i should also say as i sat there and watched scott walker and paul ryan, two people who had lots of choice words for donald trump during the course of the campaign, neither of them was carrying the trump flag for quite some time during that campaign, i thought maybe the thought bubbles i was seeing over their head was, if he would
only do this every single day. this is what the republican party would love to hear from donald trump every day. go into the east room, make an announcement on job, stay on message with the economy, instead of constantly getting in his own way with obstruction of the russia investigation, as he calls it, the russia delusion. if he would do this every day, you would see a republican party not hide when reporters are coming up to ask him questions about the president but eager to stand there next to him. >> i want to point out one thing. behind the scenes, reince priebus, chief of staff, is from the state of wisconsin. very close to him trying to get these jobs in his home state. >> it's great for the republican party and even the democratic party across the country could get behind as well. not everybody wants to be talking about russia every day. we certainly don't. americans, i do believe, are are sick of hearing about it, as
important as it is, as important as this sort of tension with his own attorney general is. the more we hear about jobs returning to the u.s., the better news it is for everyone. this is great news for the president, it's great news for the state of wisconsin, it's good news for apple because apple did take a lot of heat a few years ago with this company in worker conditions in china as well. this goes back to my point earlier, that if the president did want some sort of diversion, this is what you allude to in early morning tweets, you don't talk about something you don't have a plan ready for, especially something as controversial as banning transgenders from the military. >> and he keeps talking about how wall street is doing really well. the dow jones another big day for the dow jones. he keeps talking about the low unemployment rate right now. he's clearly anxious to take credit for a lot of these very positive economic developments, bianna. >> well, it's only been six months. a lot of this was credit to his predecessor as well. having said that, we have had a
pretty good six months, first start of his presidency. and we have sort of seen job growth continue at the rate that it had been, and economic growth, though, it could be better, is moving along as well. so, more headlines like this could be useful for the president. obviously the president being the president, he started talking about health care. he started talking about infrastructure. he started talking about tax reform as well. so, obviously a lot on his plate there, not all of it good news, especially what's going on in washington regarding health care. when it comes to jobs and when it comes to a great headline, he's got one right now. >> he spoke about -- nia, he also spoke in his remarks, now he's going to move after health care to tax cuts, infrastructure development. he's got a lot on his agenda. but this quote from his long interview in the "wall street journal" jumped out at me and a lot of other folks. let me
put it up on the screen. the truth is the people i care most about are the middle income people in this country who have gotten screwed. and if there's upward revision
it's going to be on the high income people. you know, i was with bob craft, the owner of the new england patriots the other night. he came to have dinner with me, he's a friend of mine. as he left, he said donald, don't worry about the rich people. tax the rich people. you've got to take care of the people in the
country. if was a very interesting statement. i feel the same way. he seems to be suggesting he's going to lower taxes on the middle class and raise taxes on the wealthy. that's something a lot of republicans don't necessarily want to hear. >> right. bernie sanders would love, and i think a lot of middle americans, folks in those hard-hit rust belt towns would certainly like to hear it. it's certainly the brand donald trump ran on, right, he was going to stick it to the hedge fund managers and really look out for the forgotten men and women across the country. i think so far if you look at the plans they've rolled out, particularly on like health care, for instance, the rich actually do get a tax cut on a lot of the health care plans
that are circulating. so, i think this is the president's message, but a lot of the policies that we've seen so far being rolled out, even sort of the kind of talking points of some of the tax reform bullet points and plans, don't really speak to this. so, this is something he really wants to get back -- >> do you think he's serious about raising taxes on the wealthy? >> we'll see. >> yeah. >> we'll see. he's surrounded by economic advisors from goldman sachs. we'll see what their tax reform bill actually is. we've only seen an outline of it so far. and, so, we don't -- you know, we don't really know. but he has now said it on the record. i garn fee you the democrats are going to try and hold him to it. and i think, you know, in his quote there is a clear understanding that these are the people who voted for me. and they care less about what is going on on wall street per se than they do about what is going on in their pocket books and whether they have an effective raise in their jobs and whether they're going to get some tax
breaks for the middle class. so, i think he has now put it out there and the democrats are going to say, okay, we're with you on this one. it might be an opportunity to work with him. we'll have to see. >> go ahead, bianna. >> they also care with having affordable health care as well. >> exactly. >> the president can talk about cutting taxes for the middle class, but obviously you look at what's happening in washington right now, and every day his position changes on whether it's just a repeal or repeal and replace. so, i think democrats can season that as well and say, fine, you campaigned on lowering taxes for the middle class. the middle class also have health bills they can't afford. >> you know, the various republican health care bills do cut taxes for the very, very wealthy who pay a lot of taxes to pay for the health insurance for a lot of lower income folks. >> the bill that came out of the house with that, some of the -- there's no doubt those tax cuts are there. some of the estimate plans are trying to scale back those tax cuts for the wealthy but nothing has gotten through the senate. by the way, the republican party
who stuck with him through thick and thin who have a core fundamental plan of the party, it will be interesting to see the dynamics. >> everybody stay with us. don't go too far. there is more breaking news we're following. confusion and uncertainty as president trump reinstates the ban on transgender americans serving in the u.s. military. are active duty troops about to be kicked out? with a $500,000 life insurance policy. how much do you think it cost him? $100 a month? $75? $50? actually, duncan got his $500,000 for under $28 a month. less than $1 a day! his secret? selectquote. in just minutes a selectquote agent will comparison shop nearly a dozen highly rated life insurance companies, and give you a choice of your five best rates. duncan's wife cassie got a $750,000 policy for under $21 per month.
from his surprise announcement that left many in the pentagon blind sided. twitter sessions, mr. trump refuses to back down from his verbal abuse of his attorney general, posting a new attack on jeff sessions at a time when the two could have easily spoken face to face. we are learning more about the internal pressure on the president to stop shaming sessions. no repeal, no replace. republicans failed to approve another bill aimed at dismantling obamacare. can they muster enough votes to push any kind of health care legislation through the senate? and stalled sanctions, a measure that would limit the president's ability to ease penalties on russia hits a new snag. tonight new doubt about when and if the bill will make it to the president's desk. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> annou