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moments you'll see, republican efforts to repeal obamacare have died. an early morning vote in the senate came down to one single vote -- john mccain. the moment democrats and republicans will not soon forget. we have you covered across washington this morning. good morning, everyone, welcome to "early start" on a huge day in this country. i'm dave briggs. >> yeah. not just your average friday. i'm christine romans. 5:00 a.m. in the east. high drama on capitol hill stretching into the we have hours. senate republicans trying to repeal and replace obamacare. and that vote coming up short when the maverick made his mark. senator john mccain just days removed from his cancer diagnosis stunning the chamber, turning thumbs down on the repeal bill. happened just feet away from republican leader mitch mcconnell, prompting an audible gasp in the chamber. [ gasp ]
>> seven years of repeal efforts have now essentially gone up in smoke leaving a frustrated mitch mcconnell to explain on the senate floor. >> i and many of my colleagues did as we promised and voted to repeal this failed law. we told our constituents we would vote that way, and when the moment came, when the moment came, most of us did. >> two other republican senators, maine's susan collins and alaska's lisa murkowski, joined mccain, crossing party lines to vote against the repeal bill. how did this go down behind the scenes? where do gop leaders go from here? we'll go live to phil mattingly on capitol hill. good morning to you, phil. how did this go down late last night and early this morning? >> reporter: yeah, an amazing moment. to get context from the video you saw, senator mccain voting
no. the gasps and shuffling you heard were reporters sprinting out of the chamber where you can't have cell phones. that's how surprised everybody was that this occurred. sources had been saying it was possible that senator mccain was leaning leading up to the vote. mitch mcconnell, vice president mike pence, and at one point vice president mike pence handing his phone to john mccain. on the other hand, president trump trying to sway the senator. in the end, it wouldn't work. take a listen to what leaders from both sides had to say after the vote -- >> imagine many of our colleagues on the other side are celebrating. probably pretty happy about all this. our friends on the other side decided early on they don't want to engage with us in a serious way. in a serious way, to help those suffering under obamacare. >> it's time to turn the page.
i would say to my dear friend the majority leader, we are not celebrating. we are relieved that millions and millions of people who would have been so drastically hurt by the three proposals put forward will at least retain their health care. >> reporter: and guys, shortly after the vote, the president taking to twitter to tweet three republicans and 48 democrats let the american people down. as i said from the beginning, let obamacare implode. then deal. watch. senator mccain was joined by senator lisa murkowski of alaska and senator susan collins of maine in voting no. no big surprise. the big surprise, mccain. senate leaders were paring down what they were voting for for days now. ending one a bare-bones repeal proposal. the big concern i heard repeatedly yesterday from republican senators, even those who were clear questions, is that the bare-bones proposal would eventually be voted into law. the entire idea behind voting
for the proposal would be to send it to a conference with the house. now, early -- late in the afternoon, senator mccain joined several senators in having a press conference and saying, look, we will support this idea, but we're not going to vote for it unless we have assurances from speaker of the house paul ryan that they won't just pass the bill. they got assurances both in a statement where the speaker said the house was willing to go to conference, and in personal phone calls from the speaker himself. in the end, it wasn't enough for mccain. mccain telling reporters afterwards that the vote was the right thing to do. again, in a statement after the vote, making very clear that he was uncomfortable that at some point this bare-bones plan could become the plan. and just to give you a sense of the frustration, you heard from senator mcconnell the frustration that he had on this. after this vote was over, the next bill that was supposed to be taken up, the national defense authorization act. that is senator mccain's bill. that i'm told is the primary reason that he came back to capitol hill before his cancer treatment begins next week. senator hand paul objected to taking -- senator rand paul
objected to taking up that bill at all. a big moment, a moment that surprised staff, surprised fellow senators. as of now, the senate has adjourned. they're not coming back until next week. it's unclear what senator mccain will do next. >> clearly there's hurt feelings on the floor there. they had seven years of promises, seven years of promises to repeal and replace obamacare. in the end, senator mccain said we have a shell here, we don't have anything to replace obamacare. >> reporter: look, i think this is a really, really important point to explain what just happened. this is something we've seen play out over weeks right now. the big concern from senator mccain and other senators who -- even those willing to move this into congress -- is that senate republicans would never be able to coalesce around a repeal and replace proposal. they weren't able to demonstrate they could get 50 votes on anything. anything. so this idea let's keep moving the process along. at some point, someone's going to have to make tough decisions. and the idea that they wouldn't be able to coalesce around any proposal made the possibility
that this skinny repeal could actually become law. that was the driving force behind mccain's no vote. the driving force behind a lot of concerns. really that's been the driving force behind multiple failures throughout this process. republicans are ideologically divided on health care. it became clear early this morning they aren't able to bridge the divide, guys. >> a lot of attention on john mccain and for good reason. phil, you have some interesting reporting on lisa murkowski of alaska and how the process played out between her and the white house. >> reporter: yeah, the white house was doing everything they could in the latter stages of this debate to try and get senators there. as i note, lisa murkowski was a no on the motion to proceed to debate. she's been a no on all of these amendments. she has specific concerns about a state that this bill would dramatically impact, any proposal would dramatically impact alaska and had laid concerns out to leadership. what the administration was trying to do to get her there -- that might not have been effective. the president tweeting at her earlier in the week, and we're told that the interior secretary, ryan zincke, no with
health care at all, called dan sullivan -- lisa murkowski's colleague in alaska -- and one and informed them that lisa murkowski's vote on the motion to proceed was dangerous for the relationship between the trump administration and alaska. the state itself. a little context for lisa murkows murkowski. she's a senator who won a write-in campaign in 2010 after losing the republican primary. she doesn't feel like she owes the republican party anyway. she's known as an independent senator. she's known as somebody who cares about alaska and is not kind of a party-only person. and another kind of keynote that i've been getting a kick out of for the last 24 hours, she chairs the committee that in part overseas -- that oversees the interior department and ryan zinyke who will have to listen to her. this didn't help, it's unclear if it hurt. it's worth noting -- administrations do this, they try and pull all the levers they can to try to get senators in to play. in this situation, it was clear that this wasn't a helpful effort. >> all right. we are efforting you several
pots of coffee. good luck, thank you for being with us. we'll check in with you at 5:30. >> i don't feel bad for him. he loves this. that was -- he was in history last night. part of history. let's discuss this with kimberly leonard, senior health policy reporter for "the washington examiner." and senior congressional correspondent for "the washington examiner." let's talk health policy first. this was a shell meant to keep the process moving. as you heard phil mattingly say, at some point, tough decisions have to be made about how to have better health care in this country. and there is not agreement. there still is not agreement. >> reporter: that's right. and in the end, that really led to part of the downfall. what does a replacement plan look like? ultimately every alternative they came up with appeared to increase premiums, increase the number of people who would be uninsured. and when people see those numbers, they may not like obamacare, but they don't like what they're seeing to replace it even more. political at the's difficult to get past that -- politically,
it's difficult to get past that. >> the president tweeting early this morning, let obamacare implode. the question is, will it? >> if they were to do nothing, the exchanges where people buy private insurance that people who don't get insurance through the government or through their employer, those will face a lot of difficulty if they do nothing. they already are facing a lot of trouble. so it does seem that in the next couple of months, members of both parties will need to work together to come up with some rescue package. perhaps a reinsurance package that would inject more federal funding into them or perhaps lifting some of the taxes that are created under obamacare. it's definitely something that we expect to see if they're sincere about working together. >> i'm going to be interested to see how the white house directs health and human services to implement the open enrollment period and, you know, collecting of the fines and fees and doling out of the subsidies. that really is now -- obamacare
is still the law of the land here. and it looks as though the repeal effort is dead. >> that's right. there are also things that the department of health and human services can do to make things easier for people buying insurance off the exchange. for example, in alaska, health and human services funded a big reinsurance package that really allowed premiums to not increase so much. last year -- alaska is a big state. it has few residents. it was going to face massive premium hikes. because it set up a reinsurance program that the department of health and human services accepted, they were able to see lower rates in the state. the question is how will it work with states to allow more flexibility so they can implement systems that are less expensive and perhaps give people better access. >> before we get to the politics with david kimberly, as many fears on the far right as there are hopes on the far left that this leads to a single-payer
system, are we a step closer to that? >> it's difficult to say. again, when it comes down to it, a lot of people are comparing the status quo to what it could be replaced with. they're seeing stories in other countries where access might be limited. where wait lines might be longer and things. they're saying, i'm not sure that i want a single-payer system. is there a wait to integrate -- a way to integrate the private market with the public market and have things work better. there is public support, but it comes with conditions. usually when you tell people how much their taxes will go up, federal funding will go up, they're less willing to support the proposals. >> david drucker, let me bring you in and talk about the politics of this. that moment when john mccain gave the thumbs down, and you see mitch mcconnell standing there at the corner of the desk. and he literally thumbs down, turns his back, turns his back on his colleague, gasps in the room. after the vote, here's what
mitch mcconnell said. >> i regret that we're here. i want to say the vote i made is consistent with what we told the american people we'd try to accomplish. in four straight elections, if they gave us a chance. >> for those of us who know mitch mcconnell, you can tell he is seething there as he is sayi saying those words, "what we tried to accomplish in four straight elections." i would say, four straight elections? you should have had a plan. >> i think the problem was there were too many plans and they couldn't get to a consensus. i think the focus and clip you pulled is the perfect clip. the reason republicans were trying so hard to pass a bill, multiple bills that polling has shown are very unpopular with policies that people don't quite
understand is because the political ramifications for not getting this done according to the republican strategists i talked to are huge. there are fears over president trump's tweets, the chaotic leadership style. what do they fear most? that they'll head into the midterm elections a year from now, and with control of all levers of government have nothing big to show for it. so the gambit was we have to try and do something about health care, and we have to try and fulfill the promise no matter what people think of it today. if we show up emptyhanded in 2018, our base is going to say, what's the point? i got better things to do on election day. >> unless they gave middle-class tax cuts. that would be something to show for it. should they have done tax reform first? >> no, i don't think so. i think tax reform will be difficult. the idea that tax reform would
be easier than health care, they should have done that first, infrastructure first. hindsight's 20/20. i can tell you it, tax reform requires a lot -- can tell you, tax reform requires a lot of tough choices and votes. it doesn't mean they can't get it done. i think this seriously gets in the way of that. >> wow. >> a lot of talk about 2018. will the democrats be able to run on a better deal? i think that's a long way off. in the short term, here's how ted cruz summed up what this means for his party after the no vote. >> if you stand up and campaign and say we're going to repeal obamacare and you vote for obamacare, those are not consistent. the american people are entirely justified in saying any politician told me that and voted the other way didn't tell me the truth. they lied to me. >> ted cruz clearly disappointed. as they've continued this effort, obamacare has gotten increasingly more popular, now polling at 50%. but let's talk about the entire
trump administration and agenda. look at the last 24 hours, you have covers of newspapers that read like a reality show with infighting there. you have russian sanctions bill that passed 98-2 in the senate after overwhelmingly passing the house. they head to the president's desk. and you have republicans saying there will be no recess appointment if in fact you fire attorney general jeff sessions. what does this mean for the trump administration? >> it means they>> to get their act together. look -- it means they have to get their act together. look, republicans in congress deserve a lot of blame for not getting the obamacare repeal bill done. there are a lot of problems with health care, letting it implode is going to be another political problem for them. they have to do something. however, the x factor in all of this is supposed to be presidential leadership. the reason you want a white house is because a white house with a national base can corral competing voices of your party in congress and even the other
party to produce legislation. the trump administration has fallen down on the job in doing this. primarily because of the president himself, he's been so busy defending his brand and presiding and, in fact, encouraging a chaotic, chaotic leadership that i think would make a reality show look tame. that it's not surprising that republicans would end up where they are here. the president himself was always on five sides of the irish -- let it implode, fix it, it's too mean, let's do straight repeal, let's make it, you know, expansive and generous. >> yeah. >> that's not a way to get legislation like this done. and i think the president has to rethink how he -- how he tries to negotiate and close legislative deals. it's not the same as a real estate deal, as an entertainment deal. successful as he was in that world, this is different. >> something else that's different, open warfare in the white house. in the west wing. this anthony scaramucci calling up ryan
yorkyorker -- at the "new yorker" and unlong islanding on reince priebus in the most derogatory way out there for the word to see. what do you make of this? >> i got home last night, i asked my wife, did you hear what scaramucci said? she said, no, what did he say? i said, our 5-year-old's still awake, i can't tell you g. re. go read it. this is part of the problem the president has. in the middle of trying to get this health care bill across the finish line yesterday, one of the biggest days for republicans since the president took office, the administration is consumed with their so-called communications director. >> yeah. >> going after the chief of staff and the chief strategist in a very open way, bringing attention to himself and the white house in a way that is not helpful to the agenda, that anthony scaramucci was brought in to try and help. that he says he wants to help, and i'm sure he does want to help. it was just very counterproductive. dave, you brought up a good point about the sanctions bill. this is the first time since 1986 that a president on foreign policy has been so rebuked by
congress. when president reagan was overridden on the south african sanctions bill, here you have a congress and republicans in congress telling president trump we don't trust your russia policy, we don't have confidence in you to deal with vladimir putin. anything you want to do with him in terms of relaxing sanctions, you got to run it by us first. >> through us. >> yeah. interesting. >> and scaramucci saying to chris cuomo that they might, in fact, negotiate tougher sanctions on russia. that's why they might repeal it. that met with a collective laughter throughout both -- >> i think that was probably funnier than anything else i heard all day. that's saying something. >> he office with chris cuomo for a half hour. on a day when they should have been taking a victory lap over the foxconn $10 million deal in wisconsin -- >> or pushing health care -- >> that should have been the message if they wanted to do winning -- you're going to be tired of winning. it wasn't. it was about leaking. the communications director missed a moment there. missed a real moment there. >> instead, we're opening "the
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boss stings. >> well, it's kind of hurtful, but the president of the united states is a strong leader. he is -- he's had a lot of criticisms, and he's steadfastly determined to get his job done and wants us to do our jobs. that's what i intend to do. >> he's said again and again in many forums throughout the barrage that you should have acted differently, you should have not recused yourself -- >> i talked to experts in the department of justice people, trained in that, i'm confident that i made the right decision. >> sessions says he believes the justice department is making tremendous progress. he acknowledges he serves at the pleasure of the president and will step down if his boss wants to make a change. republican chuck grassley, the chairman of the senate judiciary committee, is warn could the president he will -- warning the president he will not hold hearings for a successor to sessions in 2017. senator lindsey graham cautioning the president there
will be "holy hell to pay" if he fires the attorney general. bye-bye, border adjustment tax. after months of fierce wrangling, the most controversial element of tax reform is officially dead as a doornail. the so-called big nix negotiating tax reform -- big six negotiating tax reform released the principles. includes treasury secretary mnuchin, economic director gary cone, house speaker paul ryan, and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. this is still a wish list for tax cuts and lacks detail save for one -- the border adjustment tax is out. it was championed by paul ryan. it changes the way we tax u.s. imports and exports. it gives tax breaks to companies that export and strips away breaks from companies that import. it has two goals -- to encourage manufacturing in the u.s. but companies that rely on imports warn it will jack up consumer prices. americans love cheap goods. the other goal, to raise tax revenue. the plan has $1.2 trillion worth
of tax cuts. without the border adjustment tax, it's not clear what will pay for it. they say reform will spur 4% economic growth. experts are skeptical. expecting slower 1.8% growth. the border adjustment tax reviled by the retailers is out. >> the big loss for paul ryan in particular there. as nfl teams begin training camp, big question remains -- will colin kaepernick play at all this nfl season? >> andy scholes with more in the "bleacher report." good morning. cal incap nick has had -- colin kaepernick, many believe he's being black balled for protests and not standing during the national anthem last season. one thing that is interesting is the baltimore ravens. coach john harbaugh has been talking to the free agent. the ravens could be in the market for a starting quarterback with joe falco sidelined because of a back injury. cap niper nick plays for harbaus brother. and joe coached against the
niners in super bowl 47. >> not ruled out at all. he's a good football player. i believe he's a good person. it depends on a lot of things -- depends on colin. what's his passion, his priority, what's he want to do. what kind of shape he's in. he's ready to go and our needs. we'll see where it goes. >> ravens reportedly signed arena league quarterback david olsen to help with training camp. it does not rule out capper nick joining the ravens. the ravens' offensive lineman john eershell walking away. he's working as a doctor at mit setting numerical linear algebra and machine learning. wowme wow. he said he will be on campus getting ready to be a dad, taking classes. he and his fiancee expecting their first child. and aaron judge will likely be visiting the dentist in the
near future. the yankees won in a walk-off home run in the 11th inning. watch judge there -- that helmet hits him right in the mouth. you could see -- if you look closely, a piece of his tooth went flying. later yankees' beat reporter ryan home tweeted this picture of security looking for the tooth. this reminds me -- i'm a rockets fan. in 2000, steve francis in his prime, got his tooth chipped. and a fan court side picked it up, tried to put it on ebay and sell it. it was going for over $1,000 before it was pulled off. it makes me wonder, how much would someone pay for a piece of aaron judge's tooth? >> probably thousands of dollars. i would guess. with the talent he's shown thus far this season, i might get in on the bidding. andy scholes, thank you. >> glue that little thing back on. 28 minutes past the hour. "early start" continues right now.
>> this is clearly a disappoi disappointing moment. >> this dramatic moment. ape thumbs down -- a thumbs down, crystallizing a stunning night on capitol hill. republicans' efforts to repeal obamacare failed. the vote came hours ago. john mccain's deciding vote left lawmakers and the country stunned. we have the vote covered across washington this morning. welcome back to "early start." big morning here. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. a day republicans and democrats will not soon forget. some high drama on capitol hill stretching into the we have hours of the morning. senate republicans trying to repeal and replace obamacare. and that vote coming up short when the maverick made his mark. senator john mccain days removed from his cancer diagnosis, stunning the chamber turning the
thumbs down on the repeal bill. it happened feet away from republican leader mitch mcconnell prompting an audible gasp in the chamber. [ gasp ] >> seven years of repeal efforts have essentially gone up in smoke leaving a frustrated mcconnell to explain on the floor. >> i and many of my colleagues did as promised and voted to repeal the failed law. we told our constituents we would vote that way. when the moment came, when the moment came, most of us did. >> two other republican senators, maine's susan collins and alaska's lisa murkowski, joined mccain crossing party lines to vote against the repeal bill. how did this go down behind the scenes and where do leaders go from here?
phil mattingly's on capitol hill. our energizer bunny tonight because you have been watching a remarkable, remarkable few hours of legislating. >> reporter: no question about it. and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, vice president mike pence, at one point just off the senate floor the vice president handing his phone to john mccain -- what was on the other line? president trump. trying to get senator mccain to get to yes. in the end, he wouldn't do it. as you noted, joining lisa murkowski and susan collins, sinking a clear priority, year after year after year, campaign after campaign after campaign, it's now dead. take a listen to what the leaders on both sides had to say afterwards. >> i imagine many of our colleagues on the other side are celebrating. probably pretty
happy about all this. our friends on the other side decided early on they didn't want to engage with us in a serious way, in a serious way, to help those suffering under obamacare. >> it's time to turn the page. i would say to my dear friend, the majority leader, we are not celebrating. we are relieved that millions and millions of people who would have been so drastically hurt by the three proposals put forward will at least retain their health care. >> reporter: president trump taking to twitter shortly after the vote saying, three republicans and 48 democrats let the american people down. ads i said from the beginning, let obamacare implode, then deal. watch. i want to put it in into context. what we saw late into the night, early in the morning is as dramatic as we're describing it. the idea that the majority leader would put up an idea on the floor that would fail is big in itself. a bill that he and republicans promised to pass year after year after year, one of the primary reasons they hold the u.s. senate, they hold the majority in the u.s. house, and at least
partially the reason they hold the white house. that that bill would fail, that they would not be able to get the votes for that bill, is a huge, huge issue. we've seen this process play out over the last few months, failures and revivals, failures and resuscitations. talking to republican aides, those who haven't gone to sleep, they're making clear they don't see the path forward now. as one told me, this is a kill shot to this process. what happens next we'll have to see. there's obviously bipartisan desire to do something to help the insurance markets now. in terms of repeal, it might be done altogether. if you want to get a sense of how bruised feelings might be, a lot of respect and love for senator mccain. the next bill up after health care has long been scheduled to be the national defense authorization act. that's senator mccain's bill. as one aide told me, that's his baby. senator mcconnell after this vote tried to call that bill up. democrats are okay with it. all republicans are okay with it except one -- senator rand paul objecting to it. because of that, the senate is
adjourned. they will not be back until monday. senator mccain is scheduled to start treatment on monday in arizona. the idea is he may not be able to be back to manage the bill. one of the primary reasons i'm told he came back to washington at all. >> right. >> a lot of bruised feelings now. >> that's his baby. >> here's what john mccain said not about the defense authorization but about health care -- "from the beginning, i believed that obamacare should be repealed and replaced. while the amendment would have repealed some of obamacare's most burdensome regulation, it offered no replacement to reform our health care system. the speaker's statement that the house would be willinging to to conference does not ease my concern that this shell of a bill could be taken up and passed at any time." we do not know what the president said to john mccain in the waning moments before he vote d no. we know there were things going on behind the scenes with the interior department and white house and lisa murkowski who voted no. >> reporter: administrations try various ways to lobby members,
to try to get them to yes. lisa murkowski has been a clear no throughout this week. she voted against the motion to proceed, voted against ever moment coming up to this point. she has specific -- i will note, well laid-out concerns about her state that could have been inordinately impacted by whatever republicans were going to try and do. leaders were aware of the concerns. the president trying a different tact, attracting lisa murkowski for the no vote on motion to proceed. then the interior secretary, ryan zincke, no rip to health care, placing a call to dan sullivan, lisa plurk ski's republican counterpart, and murkowski herself saying that the no vote on health care potentially could hurt the state's relationship with the trump administration. let's add context here for what that actually means. lisa murkowski won her senate re-election campaign in 2010 after losing the republican primary. she won as a write-in candidate. she's not somebody who traditionally acts like she owes anything to the party whatsoever. she's known as an independent senator. her views, again, were clearly
laid out as to where they were. guys, this is by far the most interesting tidbit for me -- she chairs the interstate committee that oversees the interior department and secretary ryan zincke who will be answered to her from here on out. whether that was the greatest strategy is up in the air. didn't help sway her vote. i want to reiterate, administrations do lots of things on votes to try and get senators there. this isn't some dramatic, out-of-the world idea here. perhaps not the greatest strategy as it is clear that lisa murkowski couldn't be swayed. guys? >> phil mattingly with great detail behind the scenes about what was a dramatic night. thanks. let's bring back kim leonard for washington examiner" and david drucker, cnn political analyst and senior congressional correspondent also for "the washington examiner." nice to see you both. this thing is dead, kimberly. you heard phil mattingly say that top gop aides are basically saying that vote last night was the kill shot to repeal and replace. do you agree?
>> reporter: every time i hear that, it seems to come back to list life. i'm kawesch bus that kind -- cautious about that kind of prediction. it seems they want to show where everyone stood on this. when you said you wanted to repeal obamacare, did you mean it? what did you mean by that? right now everyone is on the record as to voting one way or the other. perhaps they can vote on bipartisanship. there are outside groups like heritage action saying, no, don't give up this effort. it's time to go back to it. we'll see. it's possible it could come back. anything's possible with this battle. >> no hints of bipartisanship by the president of the united states. in his tweet at 2:25 a.m. he said, k"as i said from the beginning, let obamacare implode, then deal. watch." let's start with the first part of that. will obamacare implode?
>> it would have a lot of trouble if they were to do nothing. if congress were to go into next year with the open enrollment in november, you would see a lot of counties facing no insurer for next year. you would see counties with higher rate hikes. people who don't receive subsidies for health insurance would be paying more. now there are things that the department of health and human services can do to make things a little bit cheaper for customers. they can, for example, say you can have a short-term health insurance plan. and that might not offer all the protections as obamacare, but it certainly would be less expensive. they could work with states to craft different plans and to add more funding. so there are ways that they could actually work with states and with obamacare customers without involving congress. >> one wonders if the trump administration and tom price could stands up and say because of your inability to fix this, this is what we -- you could own success and improvement in obamacare if the federal government wanted to do that, if the white house wanted to do
that. you made a good point last hour about how if both sides could say they won, if both sides could claim victory, then maybe it would be palatable to try to fix obamacare. >> i think what people are noticing is what they're paying for health care. >> right. >> if you are very sick and need care and you have a pre-existing condition illness, obviously you're going to see obamacare a certain way. if you're relatively healthy, you've been playing by the rules, you have a family, student loans, housing loans, and you're paying so much in health insurance and not getting any subsidies for it, then you're really struggling. and oftentimes, the democrats don't necessarily address that second group. and so that can be a little bit difficult to those who are facing high prices and not seeing empathy for it. now you have to pay more. it's not just a little bit of money, it's quite expensive for a lot of people. they have to be able to say that they care about making sure that
things are more equity able about things in the program. >> thanks. let's get to the politics of this with david drucker. david, what is your reaction? seven years of promises to repeal and replace and came down to three republican no votes. what does it mean? >> i think this is a big political problem for republicans which is why i'm wondering if the best thing they could do is go home for recess, not come back, and maybe if they get pressure from their constituents, they come back and try and get something done on this quietly and see if they can resolve their differences. ultimately this comes down to a disagreement i think over medicaid and the medicaid expansion. seven, eight years ago, there were zero republican votes to expand medicaid. basically every republican believed the program needed to be reformed to deal with an out-of-control cost structure. >> right. >> they finally have the power to do something about health care. and there were major disagreements internally with medicaid and the medicaid expansion. and that to me is the policy
part of this. bawls the political part of -- but also the political part of this is they worried at home how their constituents would react to changes in the health care system that brought down their attempt to repeal the affordable care act. >> when i look at the most recent favorability polling from the kaiser health tracking poll, 50% favorable rating for obamacare. 44% unfavorable. in some of the polls as we have found, part of the unfavorable is people who think that obamacare doesn't go far enough. people who want single payer, which i think is pretty interesting. doesn't mean those people are, you know, conservatives who hate government in your health care. it means they've been governments should be more in health care --not all of them but some of them. is it possible that over the past seven years the hatred, the battle cry against obamacare has morphed as obamacare has become the law of the land and people have gotten more funding with it? >> that's a great question. i think you're right to point this out. this happened in the last few months. obamacare at the beginning of
the trump presidency in january was still overall up popular. as republicans -- unpopular. as republicans started pushing solutions first in the house and then in the senate, the law even though it's in worse shape than it has ever been since it was implemented grew more popular as people decided that the devil they knew was better than the devil they didn't know. democrats who had opposed it because, as you note, it didn't go far enough on the left, found a new appreciation for it. and republicans or people in the middle that were always suspicious of it started to feel better about it. i think this all goes back to, number one, a failure of republicans in congress to explain how their proposals were going to help people, and make their lives better with health care. and then goes to a failure at the white house to corral all of the different voices in the republican party, get them all on the same page, and let them know that the president would have their back, and they would get this done. there was a lot of reliance on vice president mike pence because he's conservative, he
understands policy, and he has relationships with republicans on the hill. they trust him. at the end of the day, there is no substitute for the president who never dove in to this, never held rallies, never gave speeches all about health care. the past couple of days, he was in west virginia speaking to the boy scouts. the boy scouts have apologized for the meeting. it was a campaign screen. he was in ohio, more manufacture the same campaign-style speech. i think the president missed an opportunity here, notwithstanding the fault that lies with republicans on the hill, but his responsibility. i think he missed an opportunity to get this done. >> the same 24 hours that you have covers. the trump friendly "the new york post" "about reality show. it's turned into a circular firing squad in the oval office. when you have the senate voting for russia, iran and north korea sanctions, 98-2. when you have chuck grassley saying no, we will not make a recess appointment of an attorney general if the
president fires jeff sessions. what does it mean for the trump agenda? how do they turn the page and show moment sum? >> let's stop -- momentum? >> let's talk about how brilliant the white house is from distracting from health care with side shows. this hurts. republicans on the hill, members of the senate are looking at the white house and thinking to themselves, this whole ship is going down. if obamacare repeal doesn't work out, i'm in deep troubleme. i saw what happened to the democrats. they thought it was going to be great. we won in four straight elections. we profit or something -- three out of four, something like that. so this doesn't help bring confidence to the party on the hill that they can take tough votes, get things done, and it's going to work out. what the president has to do is restore order at the white house, restore a focus on his agendas which actually has some appeal if he would give it room to run and let people pay
attention to it. and see if that can bring his party back together, one, as they move back to tax reform, and two, as they look ahead to what they'll have to do with health care because they have to do something. just one example, guys -- by not repealing obamacare, there is a $14 billion health care tax that has been waived over the past couple of years that is about to go into effect. insurance companies are going to build it into the price that they charge consumers. people's health care is going up. >> on that light note -- we've got open enrollment in three months. a lot of work still to be done, and no clear path forward. david drucker, kimberly leonard, both from the "washington examiner," thanks. have a great weekend. treasury secretary mnuchin clashing with democrats on capitol hill especially over a specific nickname. >> i take great offense to anybody who calls me the forecollection king. -- foreclosure king. >> we'll tell you what prompted that next.
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treasury secretary mnuchin clashing with democrats on capitol hill, especially over a specific nickname. >> i did not make one mortgage during or prior to the mortgage crisis. so i take great offense to anybody who calls me the foreclosure king. >> democrats bestowed that title on mnuchin during his nomination, accusing him of profiting from the financial crisis while he ran the lender, one west. a lender, by the way, the company that became one west did make a bunch of mortgages. the hearing got heated when congressman ellison brought up robo signing. infamous, improper foreclosure practices. >> i don't even think you know
what the definition of robo signing is -- >> you don't know what i know. >> there's not a legal definition of robo signing. >> sir -- >> it was one of several testing moments, exchanges with the house financial services committee, demonstrating increasing frustration between democrats and this administration with mnuchin saying this when asked if he would apologize -- >> and i'm not apologizing to anybody because robo signing is not a legal term, and i was being harassed. >> he was later criticized for not providing records of financial ties between russia and the president. clearly tense moments in that hearing. >> no question. jeff sessions speaking out for the first time since president trump began targeting him with a barrage of public criticism. the attorney general standing by his decision to recuse himself from the russia investigation. he admits this relentless battering from his boss certainly stings. >> well, it's kind of hurtful. but the president of the united
states is a strong leader. he is -- he's had a lot of criticisms, and he's steadfastly determined to get his job done. he wants all of us to do our jobs. that's what i intend to do. >> he has said again and again in many forums throughout the barrage that you should have acted differently. you should have not recused yourself. >> i talked to experts in the department of justice, people who have trained in that. i'm confident i made the right decision. >> he said their core values are in harmony. sessions says he believes the justice department is making tremendous progress, but he acknowledges he serves at the pleasure of the president and will step down if his boss wants to make a change. senator lindsey graham cautioning the president there will be holy hell to pay if he fires the attorney general. russia -- ordering the u.s. to cut its moscow embassy staff in retaliation for the new sanctions bill passed overwhelmingly by the house and senate. russia demanding the u.s. cut the number of diplomats and
convulse across russia significantly by september 1st. russia suspending the use of two compounds, including one in moscow, effective in august. in a statement, a foreign minister says, "any new unilateral actions by the u.s. authorities to reduce the number of our diplomats in the united states will be met with a mirror response." >> watch this space. the u.s. is ordering relatives of american diplomats to immediately leave caracas two days ahead of a polarizing election that's threatening to tear venezuela apart. the vote called by president maduro is an attempt to elect a new assembly and rewrite the country's constitution. maduro's opponents call it a shameless power grab, and the potential end to democracy. 111 people have died in violent protests in venezuela since april. now the venezuelan government says it will ban protests ahead of this week's election. let's bring in cnn's laila santiago live from caracas with the latest. good morning to you.
>> reporter: good morning, dave. that ban, that protest ban now in effect. but it will be interesting to see how things play out because as the government says, we are banning all protests leading up to the election. and that -- that could come with a consequence of five to ten years in prison. opposition leaders are saying do not stand down. we will be on the streets. we will be speaking out against the government and this election on the 30th. in a matter of days. let me sort of paint the picture of what you're seeing as you're out on the roads. just yesterday as we made our way to different parts of caracas, you could actually see groups of the opposition with makeshift roadblocks. having to negotiate with them to get through to different parts. that's the opposition. taking control of parts of caracas on the streets, the roads. they plan to do that again
today. this is leading up to an election that many speak out against. the government has continued to say we will move forward. when you watch the opposition and the government -- excuse me, the national guard sort of clash on the streets, it really is about the back and forth that you see in the politics, as well as opposition leaders who say they do not want a new constitution or new assembly, they want a new government. and the government continues to say this is about democracy. dave? >> just a terrifying situation in venezuela. live in caracas, thanks. let's check cnn "money stream." it is that time of the morning. global stock markets are lower after a mixed day on wall street. the dow hit a fresh record. that's 30 stocks. but a slump in tech dragged down the bigger nasdaq and the s&p 500. tech has been a huge driver of the u.s. stock market this year. tech up 23% so far. these five tech companies have
had an outsized effect on the market. accounting for more than one-fourth of the gains of the s&p 500 this year. four of those big five closed lower. some on wall street worry stocks are getting too hot. for now, investors are shrugging off high valuations, focusing instead on really good, big corporate profits. earnings have been strong overall. one tech stock that did not temperature bull yesterday -- tumble yesterday, facebook. it gained 3%, strong earnings. pushing the value to about the $500 billion mark. a big milestone, considering it's only been public fur five years. five years to $500 billion. three other tech companies are worth more -- apple, google parent alphabet, and microsoft. amazonous hit that $500 billion mark on wednesday. speaking of amazon, stock falling 3% overnight after profits declined 77%. it's made a lot of investments and acquisition, spending money on things like alexa and -- and new warehouses. it bought whole foods for $13.7
billion. so sales grew. but net profit dropped from the year before. that has -- the stock dropped, ended jeff bezos' brief run as the world's richest person. he briefly dethroned bill gates thursday morning. >> which had twitter going nuts when he was the world's richest man. for moments. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. the health care repeal and replace failed in large part to john mccain. "new day" starts now. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." it is friday, july 28th, 6:00 here in new york. we do begin with breaking news. republicans' seven-year push to dismantle obamacare goes down in a stunning defeat. senator john mccain living up to his nickname, the maverick, casting the