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events are happening all around the world. take a look at the scene right now in venezuela. an election that would rewrite the constitution in the president's favor there. ends in one hour. a candidate was gunned down in his home hours before voting began. an opposition leader was killed in protests today. a collapsing economy, a live update from caracas is moments away. a new threat from north korea if u.s. sanctions continue. this time north korea may be a greater danger than ever. the ballistic missile it tested on friday, shows the country is capable of striking major u.s. cities including los angeles and chicago. what's not clear is whether
north korea has the technology to put nuclear warheads on top of those missiles. let's begin with the world responding to this growing nuclear threat alexandra field is live in seoul, south korea. this latest test posed the biggest reaction yet. how does this time around compare to other missile launches? >> what is clear this time around is the fact that the missile and nuclear program is developing at a faster rate than many expected. you have north korea test launching two icbm's in the space of a month. the response from the u.s. has been two fold you're seeing top administration officials from the president looking squarely at china.
wanting china to reign in north korea. you have seen the administration apply this kind of pressure to china. you also have the u.s. working with the military to try to show strength and force in the face of these mounting threats. while pyongyang was celebrating the launch of that missile. they were test firing their own ballistic missiles. the u.s. has since deployed its own missile defense system in a test run and flying b-1 bombers over the korean peninsula. dress rehearsals, the regime sees 2 for some kind of invasion. pyongyang has been responding saying more sanctions would be met with a response. the trump administration had promised a new approach to dealing with north korea.
we've seen them lean heavily on china and talk about the sanctions that are in place. so far the threats haven't worked and the flexing of military strength hasn't worked. since the beginning of the year the north korean regime has launched 12 different ballistic missile launches. truly an incredible acceleration in the rate of development of this program. >> let's dig in too what the response is now from the frumd add ming station. tell us what else the administration is going, now that experts believe mainland cities are within their reach. >> this morning's thaad system test, the bomber fly over today.
the current ones they're pushing for more of. and diplomacy, which means china. president trump tweeted over the weekend, accusing china of doing nothing to solve the north korea threat and implying there could be consequences as a result. expanding on the united states frustration with international reaction today. releasing a statement in afternoon, basically saying there's no point in having an emergency security council session any more. an additional security council resolution that does not significantly increase the international pressure on north korea is of no value. it is worse than nothing. it sendses a message to the north korean dictator that the international community is unthe to seriously challenge him. the time for talk is over. the danger of the north korean regime is now clear to all.
dianne feinstein saying, china has to step it up when it comes to north korea. >> diane gallagher in washington. thank you, ladies. let's talk more about this new threat jonathan crystal is with me. he studies u.s. foreign policy and nuclear proliferation. president trump slammed china today on twitter. you said that tweet made you nervous, why? >> it makes me nervous that president trump thinks that china really holds all of the cards here, and he thinks china should do what we want them to do just because we want them to do it. i'm not sure they have the same incentives we have to reign north korea in. >> you don't think they are the
ones that have the most leverage with north korea? >> that's not what i mean. i'm not sure they have the incentives to stop north korea. that doesn't mean as much to have as our desire to have them stop doing these tests? >> why is that? >> these threats don't pose a threat to china. what poses a threat to china would be in the u.s. really stepped up a dramatic troops in the area. those kind of things china would want to avoid. that might be a reason for them to try to reign north korea in. they don't want that. if it looks like we're not going to do that much. if we're not going to do that much, i don't know how they
would make money. they would bring u.s. forces up to the chinese border. >> what did you think of nikki haley's statement, talks are over. >> it's always better to talk than not talk. i don't disagree with her statement. she's right that useless talks are worse than no talks. the problem is that you have tweets coming about this, that aren't exactly a red line, because no one really knows how to interpret them. you have a series of tweets from the president that one could interpret as a red line. and i think that creates -- that might be worse than having useless talks. >> did the obama administration take any in roads or make steps that made a difference. we know president obama told president trump this was perhaps his greatest foreign policy threat as he entered office, and
yet they've continued to advance their nuclear braham at a rate that is now surprising experts with how advanced it is. >> no, i don't think the obama administration did too much on this. it probably was not the way too go at the time. i would take it back in a second versus what we have now, which is no real difference in policy, with confusing messages coming from the white house and the potential for the u.s. to do anything. i think in the obama administration, one thing i underappreciated at the time, was that south korea and japan, our allies in the region didn't have to question our commitment to them. that was clear. that kind of stable relationship is something i think i and many other people took for granted. and i think we should be so lucky to have that right now.
>> do you think kim jong-un is crazy or calculated? >> i think he's calculated. >> i think when we have north korean nuclear warheads pointed at us, we will manage to sleep at night as well. you don't just test and then launch. >> thank you for being here. turning now to venezuela's deadly election. time is running out for voters. one candidate was shot and killed in his own home last night. fresh explosions are rocking the streets of caracas, smoke from burning motorcycles, filling the air. watch this. [ explosion ] >> today's vote could be a stark turning point for venezuela.
he wants more power and rule changes. the trump administration has warned him to cancel the vote or face repercussions. layla, polls are expected to close pretty soon, within the next hour or so? the president had called for a ban on protests today. fill us in on the latest. >> no one seems to be listening to that ban on protests as we were out and about today protesters are still taking to the streets, to speak out not only against this election, not only against the constituent assembly that could result from the election. but also against the government itself. we spoke to people that said this is more about an election. they're not backing down despite
any sort of ban on protests, despite any sort of new election, they say they are here to stay until something changes. and they're hoping that the international pressure will take a part in having some sort of change in the government. that is one side, that is the opposition, when you go to the polls and you see a lot of those supporters of the government they say they are voting today, they're voting for a new constituent assembly that could rewrite the constitution, they believe that is what will bring peace to this country. >> it's possible that the people voting could turn down this referendum, no? >> a lot of people are waiting to find out what will happen in the next few days the opposition said we are willing to have a dialogue, we want you to push back this election many that didn't happen.
as i mentioned, you are waiting to see the international pressure that is mounting. what they are voting for today are the more than 500 seats for this assembly. once that assembly is elected that will give them the power to rewrite a constitution that dates back to 1999. that could be some changes. that could also change what kind of power the president has. ana. >> thank you. with john kelly starting his first day as chief of staff tomorrow, and questions swirling about his replacement at homeland security, is kelly just what the white house needs to get on track? we'll discuss next. "how to win at business." step one: point decisively with the arm of your glasses. abracadabra. the stage is yours. step two: choose la quinta.
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retired four star again takes the corner office in the white house tomorrow, just steps away from the commander in chief. kelly is expected to bring his marine sense of order to the west wing. he inherits a white house that is filled with tension. and a brash new communications director in anthony scaramucci who gave that unsensed and undisciplined interview last week. any sense of whether kelly and anthony scaramucci will mesh. they seem to have very different styles? >> very different styles, anna, very different backgrounds too. he spent more than 50 years serving in the military. someone who has you said is respected for his discipline. and then you have scaramucci who
comes from a wall street culture. he can be a bit boycerous, as we saw in his first press conference he wants to let trump be trump. the question is ultimately, will anthony scaramucci report to secretary-general kelly as chief of staff. as we saw, when scaramuccis with a put in place, he was reporting directly to the president, not the chief of staff. we have asked questions, they have refused to give us an answer. >> there's speculation that jeff sessions could move into the homeland security post that was vacated by kelly. here's what kelly anne conway said earlier today. >> that's a personnel question that only the president can answer. i will tell you that the president has expressed
frustration about the recusal, so much has flowed from that recusal, and so much of president trump's agenda flows from the department of justice. many of the primary issues and issues he won successfully on go through the department of justice. and look at what's happened with this ridiculous russian collusion delusion. >> conway didn't reveal a whole lot there, but what are you hearing about who could be named homeland security secretary? >> she didn't reveal much, but it is revealing she reiterated that complaint from the president, and that main point of frustration between donald trump and jeff sessions, the fact that the attorney general recused himself from the russia investigation. this is purely speculation that was brought about by a political report that indicated that there were sources that spoke to people at the department of homeland security that floated jeff sessions as a potential new secretary for the dhs. cnn has no indication from the
president that he's consider this, or that jeff sessions would even take on that role. but several lawmakers are taking this somewhat seriously, at least entertaining this as a possibility. we heard lindsay dwraem say it was a bad idea. susan collins of main was asked about it, she said she would be against such a move if sessions recused himself. obviously, that's donald trump's biggest gripe against jeff sessions. it will be difficult if the president were to make this move, which he legally can, sessions has been confirmed by the senate, he can be installed as the head of the dhs for up to 210 days, it would be difficult for him to get someone else confirmed as attorney general. sessions has so much report among his fellow congress people. >> that's the sticking point. >> thank you, with john kelly taking the helm at the trump white house this week, what does that mean for the pecking order in the west wing? what will the new chief of staff
encounter in a white house that is compared to a reality tv show, where questions still linger about whose next to hear the words you're fired. cnn political analyst josh wroeg an and julian zelezar. first, sessions being reassigned? it sounds like the white house isn't ruling out. in fact, we heard kelly anne conway emphasize sessions work on immigration issues that could crossover to dhs. >> even the people inside the white house have no idea if this is a real thing or not. this could just be something that one part of the administration is floating. everyone has sort of left to speculate whether it be good or bad, without having any confidence this is a thing that might happen. that's bizarre, but let's put that asite and analyze it anyway. this would be a huge demotion for jeff sessions, if you're looking for a way to save face
and give him an offramp. i guess this would qualify. attorney general and department of homeland security secretary are not the same thing. it's not clear to me why sessions would take that, that would allow him to save any face. overall, the whole idea seems half baked at best. >> if trump were to make this move, could he enes cape the questions about whether this had something to do with the russia investigation? >> no, as this story has emerged, you heard some backlash from congress including capitol hill. i think the move would be seen as being not about jeff sessions, but about robert mueller, this is -- would be seen as the first step in trying to remove him. if he made this, even though it's maybe a more subtle way to get rid of attorney general sessions, many people on the hill would see it for what it is, and it may cause a lot of
problems. >> a close to kelly tells cnn kelly plans to implement process first. we have scaramucci reporting to the president, don't forget ivanka and jared. and steve bannon. >> i think he has no choice. what they've got is chaos, and that's alet of the reason why reince priebus failed as chief of staff. he was set up for failure. it seems obvious that general kelly would want to try to tame the zoo. the $64,000 question is whether or not president trump wants that. we keep hearing the president loves competing power centers. he loves when his senior aids bicker with each other. he thinks that creates the best outcomes. general kelly is not going to be able to impose a process or any type of structure that president trump is not amenable too.
you have this competing wave that anthony scaramucci is talking about, we're going to let trump be trump. you can't do both. you're going to let trump be trump. which is the opposite of order and discipline. who's going to win that battle? i don't think anyone can predict. >> we see the president tweet this weekend. it goes back to what you said about trump being trump. leadership starts at the top, and you have said it was a leadership failure by the president because that obama care repeal replace did not happen. he owns this, let me read what you wrote on an op ed. had this been an 77 so he had of the apprentice, he someone would be sitting around the boardroom saying, you're fired. explain why he owns this? >> he made many mistakes, tweets that distracted from the
mission. he never really sold the bill himself to the public or explained what it was going to be about. he intimidated members of his own party and threatened them on television, so you could watch senator heller of nevada be threatened face to face. none of that really works. at many moments he didn't understand what was in the bill, and would say contradictory things. a lot of this has to rest on his shoulders. i think that's part of why he's a brit defensive about the failure through his tweets, now he's blaming republicans, the senate filibuster. >> he does seem fixated on this obama care situation and saying, if a new health care is not approved quickly, bailouts for insurance companies and bailouts for members of congress will end
very soon. does that sound like a threat to lawmakers? >> yeah, there's two threats in there, the real threat is if he's going to stop paying the obama care subsidyies. the threat to lawmakers is a little tougher to really sink in, because obviously these lawmakers are all making decisions based on their own political analysis. if they've already voted against the bill, calculated that they're immune to whatever backlash the president could bring bonn them. politicians are going to do what's in their political interest. rather than threaten them, the president might try to persuade them or entice them that going with him is in their political interest. that's not the path he's chosen. those threats get less and less credible as time goes on. as we get closer to the election, each lawmaker, especially republican lawmakers are going to do what they think
is best for their re-election, no matter what the president tweets fp. >> in the meantime, the president is focused on fixing his own team, obama care's domestic agenda here. then we have venezuela happening, north korea happening, with the chaos happening inside the white house. is the president and his team prepared to deal with what's happening around the world? >> many people would probably say no. i don't think all of those people are democrats. there's a lot of concern about how will he handle these multiple crisis as they unfold. we've been talking about this and speculating about this. here it is. many of the problems you see on domestic policy will also be problems on foreign policy. the tweets, the threats, the ad-hoc approach to policy when dealing with other countries, other leaders, when dealing with military situations i think all the problems people have been discussing with his leadership
at home are the same kind of issues he will have to deal with if he wants to handle these threats and challenges effectively opinion. >> thank you for joining us. speaking of other threats, vladimir putin says he's kicking 755 americans out of his country in retaliation to u.s. sanctions. we're live next.
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designed to save you money. president putzen is speaking out today before how he plans to punish the united states for new sanchszs approved by kwong. hundreds of staff in russia will soon be out of work, putin says. he was hoping relations would change with the u.s. for the better. it's not going to happen any time soon. matthew, what more can you tell us about the comments from the russian president?
>>. >> first of all, this is vladimir putin confirming what's been reporting in the state media for the last 24 hours, that these hundreds of people that are employed by u.s. diplomatic offices will basically have to go. i mean, what the president of russia is saying, the amount of people that the u.s. missions employ in russia will have to be reduced by 755 personnel, which is -- it's more than half of the amount of people that are employed across the embassy and the three continents the united states has in russia. as you mentioned, vladimir putin said he did this with some regret. we waited a long time for things to change for the better. we hoped the situation would change, but then the situation
would not take place soon. listen to what he said on national television. >> translator: i thought it was time for us to show we will not leave this without an answer. as for whether it is a lot or not, this is quite sensible from the point of view for the work of the diplomatic department. employees have worked and still work in russia. 57 will have to stop their activities in the russian federation. >> a lot of what's not clear at the moment is whether -- what proportion of these 755 people will be u.s. citizens, the united states employs a proportion of u.s. citizens and a portion of local staff as well to carry out the embassy and consulate operations. it's not clear at this point how many u.s. diplomats will be on the plane home.
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>> i'm sorry, margaret. try to swim in. >> the routines are ridiculously brilliant. it was endless ripping. i'm going whose brain can do that. >> the united nations now recogniz recognizes. >> to be as genius as jonathan winters, you have to think differently than normal people. he's working within his mind at a very high level, a very fast level. by thinking that way and being that untethered to the rest of us you can lose your mind more easily. >> jonathan has drinking issues, depression issues that were clinical. that were deep. >> joining us now is mike sax, author of poking a dead frog.
mike, you're featured in tonight's episode because you had chance to talk with some of these comedians who struggled with mental health issue, depression. why do you think it's common? >> i don't know if comedy causes depression or depression causes come comedy. when you have a spark of madness, you do have to think differently. by thinking differently it can cause you to sometimes lose touch with the norm. what we just saw with jonathan winte winters, this is a guy thinking differently and if you're that many levels removed from normalcy, it can cause you to go crazy in which case he was institutionized for many years. >> you think there might be something to it with always looking for the big laugh, being a comedian as you are working through that itself can take a toll on the psyche. if you're up on stage and you
need laughs. you want laughs and never know if you're going to get laughs. you can work in the business for r 50, 60 years. i think that drives people crazy in the business because it's a dopemine reach. if you can't reach that high sometimes you reach for another ways. that's why alcohol and drugs play a part in a lot of stand up comedians and comedy writers lives. >> you talk to some of these guys, you mention jonathan winters, richard pryor, any story that stands out to you. >> here is a guy that grew up in large house, in baea bedroom performing in his head, creating different worlds and he ended up dying alone in a room and a big house. it was the alone part that got to me. here is someone who created so
much laughter, so much joy for so many people and for him to have died alone i think that says more about comedy than practically any other story. that devastated the community. he was incredibly nice guy who suffered from major depression and other mental illnesses. that hit very hard in the community. >> what is the answer to helping these people who may be dealing with something secretly. >> i think it's out there. depression is always mentioned when it comes to comedy. tgs also between ocd and comedy. i think they can reach out. that's a good thing. they can seek out like minded people and also seek out if they are having issues whether it's anxiety or depression or ocd.
they can see the very popular, very successful people have it and it's nothing to be ashamed about. in the end it can be helpful for comedy. >> i'm so glad we had chance to have this discussion. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> tune in tonight for the history of comedy. it's at 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. you're in the cnn newsroom. great to have you with us on this sunday. we begin with the deadly clashes in venezuela. others have died as well including an opposition leader. two people found dead at a polling clas. all of this in kaun ta country
people are starving. the economy is collapsing. north korea is issuing new threats as experts say the country now has new capabilities. missiles capable of striking major u.s. cities from los angeles to chicago. what is not known is whether north korea could put nuclear warheads on those missiles. all this playing out as the white house struggles to find discipline and order and get on message with two top officials booted in one week. can the president's new chief of st staff, jump start the agency and agenda there in the white house? trump administration sending a harsh warning to venezuela's president tonight. the venezuelan people and democracy will prevail.