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that. oval office privileges. so will that change? that remains to be seen. this is donald trump has run his business this way, for decades. he likes chaos. he likes competition among the people who work for him and this outsourcing of being the person in charges is new to him. >>ist just thinking about it took months to full -- spicer was filling in in the job, and then scaramucci is filing in, trump had been trying to bring him in for a while, reince had been apparently trying to block him. who's going to get that job now? there were a lot of people in the conservative media world. let me hit pause on this conversation, and let me welcome your viewers. it's not a dull monday afternoon
here. here's the news. anthony scaramucci has resigned, 11 days later. the timing also happening on day one of the new chief of staff, who had come over from home landlord secure. we remember the story that it will be one of the stories of the year, and the profanity laced language yet four days later, that was when he tendered his recentition nation, we're getting more reporting. let me begin at the white house.
caitlyn, we're wait fog a statement from the white house on this resignation. we're told that they are huddled in a office right now. we are told we can expect a statement any minute now. right now we're being told by white house officials that an think scaramucci was removed because john kelly did not think he was disciplined enough and thought he had burned his credibility. as you know, anthony scaramucci went on a vulgar rant against reince priebus, and we're told that played a factor into that, that he didn't think he was disciplined enough to take on this roll. there's been a lot of speculation about john kelly
coming into this position, how he would impose discipline on a west wing that's fill with infighting from staffers. >> let me bring in my panel, we don't know if this was a condition, but we're learning that he wanted scaramucci out, because he didn't thing he was disciplined and had burned his credibility. david chalian? >> my thoughts is i'm sure john kelly believed that, and this wouldn't have happened unless the president agreed. i believe it's also the president who thinking that scaramucci got too far out in front, no doubt, but really blew himself up in this roll in a way that was no longer going to be helpful and get the added benefit of given john kelly a fresh start on day one. >> i agree. i would like to be a fly on the wall and the conversation before
kelly took this job about what it is he would want to do as the white house chief of staff. i am sure since this didn't happen weeks ago that i'm sure that the outburt, the vulgar it and by the way threatened pushily to fire anyone, who is this guy over there? who is he that's unacceptable if you're coming in to run things. so i'm sure it was a topic of conversation, but the president has some loyalty to scaramucci. scaramucci feld he had been blocked. and we don't know if he'll have another post in this administration. >> that's why this statement we
just received is careful. anthony scaramucci will be leaving his role. mr. scaramucci felt it was best to give chief of staff john kelly a clean slate and the ability to build his own team. we wish him all the best. >> it doesn't rule out a job elsewhere. remember he had been at the export/import bank at a brand-new roll. this was such a huge moment, as gloria was saying. he had wanted this for months. he had sold his firm in preparation for this, and to lose it all. he says this is the same language that shawn spider said.
>> turn the page, no white house chaos, but look at the banner on the screen, it says this is chaos, and it does this is ultimately about the president and who he decides to hire, but scaramucci, that is a big, big addition to the team 11 days ago. just do it, get it done. >> and jeff zeleny was saying this feels like more than a reset. do we think that will will be -- now it's just monday, do you think with general kelly as chief of staff, and scaramucci being gone maybe that is a harbinger, is this a good thing?
this is not the end of staff changes in the white house, i can pretty much assure that. i think kelly will clearly have the latitude to do exactly what the statement says, so -- this scaramucci thing is -- even forget john kelly starting today. i've never seen a ten-day tra ject story like this at all. this was a dominant person from the trump white house last week was an theory scaramucci. hi came on the screen like a rocket, and last-minute trying to stop it from happening, names sarah huckabee as press secretary, and on cnn's "new
day" with guns blazing. so what's the -- >> don't become the start of the --s. >> there's another star, four stars, right there. and if you're a four-star general, you might thing that somebody who was threatening to fire people publicly getting out hat of the president and chief of staff. was not playing within the chaj of command. he might have thought, you know what? this guy has damaged himself so much internally, and it was completely untenable. i think that we'll have to see,
if the president understood that himself. >> let me -- these are live pictures, we waiting for this medal of honor ceremony with this vietnam war veteran. i spied general kelly. then after this, there's ivanka trump, and then we are supposed to have, stelter, correct me if we have changed it, 3:45 eastern time this on-camera press breers. >> what does this say? sarah huckabee sanders is still scheduled to have -- -- may get delayed. i wonder if she knew this was
going to happen. she has become the only one of other press secretaries was pushed out. remember a few days ago he vowed to fire all the leakers. snl didn't have enough time to cast him. there was even online chatter about this. >> just looking at ivanka trump, we knew to the two of you, ivanka trump and jared kushner, top advisers and son-in-law, they are fans, but also of general kelly and this move. no? yes? >> yes. >> yes, they were fans of what they hoped scaramucci was going to do.
they were support of john kelly get order. someone the president would regard as a peer of anyone we have seen in the white house. hoe regarded him as just another staffer, didn't go to him for advice, et cetera, et cetera. it's clear to me that while the president made this decision, i totally great with david, he's setting down some deals here with order, and who goes through who, and what is acceptable behavior, and what is not acceptable? that may go to leaking as well.
partwise? >> he just experienced a week where he witnessed more cracks in his own coalition, in his own support structure. i'm talking about susan collins, lisa murkowski and john mccain who broke ranks, who, that consumed the legislative agenda. i'm talking about hearing from conservative media like breitbart and others about the way he was letting jeff sessions twist in the wind. let's go to this medal of honor ceremony.
whose repeated acts of bravely convey to us a true understanding of the value of life. as his service demonstrates user faithfuls in and unconditional love for all humanity, we ask you to continue to -- to their own acts of selfless service. grant us all now, hearts eager to -- and all acts that work to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. amen. >> thank you very much. thank you chaplain, secretary
mnuchin, secretary mattis, and members of the armed forces. thank you for joining us as we award our nation's highest military honor to specialist 5 james c. mclewin. today we pay tribute to a veteran who went above and beyond the call of duty to protect our comrades, our country and our freedom. joining jim today is his wife sharee, his brothers mike and tom, his sons jamie and matt, and many other members of his very large and beautiful family. we're also gratified to be joined by eight previous medal of honor recipients. now, jim's name will stand
forever alongside theirs in our history and in our hearts. i want to take a few minutes to tell you about jim and how he earned this place among legends. jim was raised in bangor, michigan. his father built their house from scratch and worked 40 years at a piano factory. jim's dad taught him a simple but powerful lesson -- never do anything halfway, always do your best. jim took that lesson very much to heart. he played for four varsity sports in high school and three in college. in august of 1968, jim was drafted into the army. within six months he was trained as a medic and arrived in
vietnam. right away jim poured all of himself into his duties treating the sick and the wounded. before long, all his fellow soldiers called him doc. on may 13th, 1969, less than three months after he arrived, jim was one of 89 men in charlie company to embark on a mission to secure a transportation route near nanyun, as jim and his men jumped out of the helicopter, it quickly became clear they were surrounded by enemy troops. within minutes two choppers were shot down, and one of his men was badly wounded in the middle of an open field. jim did not hesitate he blazed through 100 meters of enemy fire to carry the wounded and the
soldier to safety. this was only the first over the next 48 hours. after tending to the first wounded soldier, jim joined a mission to advance toward the enemy, and advance they did. before long, they were ambushed. again he ran into danger to rescue his men. as he cared for two soldiers s. a rocket grent knead slashed open the back of his bod from from head to foot. that terrible wound didn't stop him from pulling those two men to safety, nor did it stop him from answering the plea of another wounded comrade, carrying him to safety atop his own badly injured body. he was badly injured.
blast upon blast, as one of his comrades recalled whoever called medic could immediately account on jim. he's a brave guy. as day turned to dusk, nearly all those who could and really had to make it back, they were finally within their night defensive position, except for one soldier whose plea jim could not ignore. again, doc did not head at a time. he called through a ride paddy thick with steel rain -- that means bullets all over the place, as soldiers watched him, they were sure that was the last time they would see doc. they thought that was the end of jim, but after several minutes, he emerged from the smoke and
fire carrying another soldier. he bandaged, if i could and worked, and lifted the soldier to a medevac helicopter. his lieutenant ordered jim to get in, too. he said, get in, he said, get in, but jim refused. he said you're going to need me here. as jim now says, i would have rather died on the battlefield than know that men died because they did not have a medic. over the next 24 hours, jim fired at enemy soldiers, suffered a bullet wound to his arm, and continued to race into gunfire to save more and more lives. and yet, as night approached again, after nearly two days of no food, no water, and no rest, jim volunteered to hold a
blinking light in an open field to signal for a supply drop. he would not yield. he would not rest. he would not stop, and he would not flinch in the face of sheer death and definite danger. though he was thousands of miles from home, it was as if the strength and pride of our whole nation was beating inside of jim's heart. jim did what his father had taught him. he gave it his all, and then he just kept giving. in those 48 hours, jim rescued ten american soldiers and tended to countless others. he was one of 32 men who fought until the end. they held their ground against more than 2,000 enemy troops. jim, i know i speak for every person here when i say that we
are in awe of your actions and your bravery, but let me tell you one thing, and one more story about jim. on the second day of that bloody fight, jim found a few soldiers, and a fellow soldier who had been shot badly in the stomach. he knew the soldier wouldn't make it if he flung him on the back. he lifted him up and carried him in his arms, as he was carrying a soldier, a thought flashed through his mind. though jim had always been close to his father, he realized it was not since he had been a young boy that he had told his dad those three very simple but beautiful words -- i love you. in that moment jim offered up a prayer. he asked god, if you get me out of this hell on earth so i can
tell mea dad i love him, i'll be the best coach and the best father you could ever ask for. as he prayed, a great peace came over him s. and if it was god's will for him to live, he would keep his promise to god as soon as he had the chance. jim made it out of that hell on earth. he made it. here he is. the first thing he did when he arrived back on american soil was to saying those beautiful words "i love you, dad. i love you." he said those words over and over again for the next 22 years until the last time he saw his father the night before his dad passed on. today i would venture to say his dad is the proudest father in heaven. jim fought with all of the love and courage in his soul.
he was prepared that lay down his life so his brothers in arms could live theirs. with us today are ten of the men who fought alongside jim and five of those he saved. to bill, randy, mike, joe, kent, robert, john, charles, michael, orestes, thank you for your service and your sacrifice. stand up wherever you may be. where are you? where are you? [ applause ]
thank you, fellas. that's great. for over two centuries, our brave men and women have overcome tyranny, communism and every threat to our freedom. every single threat they have overcome. we've overcome these threats because of titans like jim, whose spirit could never be congre conqu conquered. that's what this award is and jim ace life represents so well, america's unbreakable spirit. it's been 48 years since his battle in vietnam. he is now a husband, a father and a grandfather. he coached high school football, wrestling and baseball for 38 years, just like he said he would. he brought together every member he could find of his beloved
charlie company. to many people in this room, specialist 5 mclewin has always been their friend jim. to others he's been coach. to those who bravely served with him in vietnam, he's still called their doc. to his parents scotty and margaret, both watching from heaven, he will always be their son. but today 320 million grateful american hearts, private mclewin carries one immortal title. that title is "hero." specialist 5 mclewin, we honor you, and with god as your witness, with you thank you for what you did for all of us. now i would like the military
aide to come forward and read the citation. >> the president of the united states of america authorized by act of congress march 3rd, 1863, has awarded in the name of congress the medal of honor to private first-class james c. mclewin, the united states army. for conspicuous gallantry at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. private first-class, acts of gallantry at the risk of his life, above and beyond the call of duty from pay 13 through 15,
1969. while servesing as a combat medic with charlie company 3rd battalion 21st infantry 196 light infantry brigade. amer cal division. the company air assaulted into an area. on may 13th, with complete disregard for his life, he ran 100 meters in an open field through heavy fire to rescue a comrade too injured to move, and carried him to safety. that same day the second platoon was ordered to search the area near the hill when the platoon was ambushed by a large north vietnamese army force and sustained heavy casualties. with complete disregard for his life and personality safety, private first-clays mclewin led two americans into the safety of a trench while being wounded by
shrapnel from a rocket-propelled grenade. he ignored a direct order to stay back and braved an enemy assault while moving into the kill zone on four more occasions to extract wounded comrades. he treated the injured, prepared the evacuation, and though bleeding heavily from wounds on his head and entire body, refused evacuation to safety in order to remain at the battle site with his fellow soldiers who were heavily outnumbered by the north vietnamese army forces. on may 14th, the platoon was go ahead ordered to move out towards nuyon hit. the private first-class was wounded a second time by small arms fire and shrapnel while rendering aid to two soldiers in an open ride paddy. in the final face, two -- and an element of 700 soldiers from a vitt congress regiment descended
upon charlie company's position on three sides. private first-class mclune again went into the crossfire numerous times to extract the wounded soldiers while also fighting the enemy. his relentless and courageous actions inspired and motivated his com rats to fight for their survival. when supplies ran low, he vorcht tier to hold a blinking strobe light in an open area for a nighttime reply drop. he remained stead does that fast while bullets fell around him and rocket -- during the morning darkness of may 15th, he knocked out a rocket-propelled grent nate position with a grenade, fought and eliminated enemy soldiers, treated numerous casualties, kept two critically wounded soldiers alive through the need and organized the dead
and wounded for evacuation at daylight. his timely and courageous actions were instrumental in saving the lives of his fellow soldiers. private first-clays mclewin's personal, and devotion to duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself, the americal division and the united states army. [ applause ]
families, our military, our country, strengthen us in faith and renew us in spirit and send uss forth with your peace. amen. >> jim, thank you, god bless you, god bless your family, god bless of united states of america. thank you, jim. [ applause ] we always want to take they medal of honor recipient ceremonies live. it's so entirely special for these individuals and really for all of us here. congratulations, and huge thank
you to army specialist 5 james c. mclewin there at the white house. another major breaking story has brewing at the white house as well. so let's get back on that topic, that being in the last 45 minutes or so, we have learned on this first day on the job for the chief of staff, hours into general john kelly's job, we have learned that the chief of communications, anthony scaramucci, who had been at his post for all of 11 days, offered hi resignation, he is out. john kelly is in charge now, with you source close to kellie tells cnn -- jeff zeleny, let me bring you in, and we can deliver this together. you tell me, it was general kelly who thought that scaramucci wasn't quite disciplined enough, right? he had burned his credibility in his post.
stimplgts that's what we are learning, and it's also a sign that the president is giving his new chief of staff the full authority he promised his we on or said he would. when he made this -- but we are being told that an think scaramucci was essentially escorted off the white house property earlier this afternoon. it was after the chief of staff, john kelly said, look, he does not think he is right for this white house. all goes back to the tone of that conversation, the interview with the "new yorker" magazine that was so incendiary. i'm also being told that i'm told of jared kushner, son-in-law and senior adviser, as well as ivanka trump, the president's daughter, also supported this decision for him to leave, but they also supported the decision for him to come in. in fact ivanka trump was in the
room when the president was interviewing him just less than two weeks ago. there was a big question in washington how long would anthony scaramucci stay on the job, a few people thought he would be leaving this asp, but we're also told that the president was sounding people out, as he obvious does. he talk to one ally, who said this, brooke, he asked if anthony scaramucci this damaged himself, the ally said yes, sir. that sets the table, really one of his first official acts, anthony scaramucci out, brooke. >> did you say scaramucci was escorted off the property? >> reporter: we are told by our producers, our team, that he was
escorted off. that's not necessarily unusual. we are told he was escorted off the property earlier this afternoon. now, the question is what happens next? most people in donald trump's orbit never leave entirely. they go to a different part of the structure, or the system. he obviously still supports this president very much. so he will be keeping an eye on and report more on what he will do after this. i suspect he will stay in hi orbit, perhaps some other time of job in the government. i wouldn't rule that out. but in terms of the west wing here, he is no longer here. >> jeff, thank you so much. great reporting, as always. from the white house. mark preston is here, gloria borger is back. thoughts, resume nations? >> one is his legacy -- >> can you have a legacy after 11 days? >> absolutely. one is he forced a chief of
staff and on communications director to leave. the briefings apparently are now on the camera, you know. he said he wanted to open that up, so perhaps that's, you know, another legacy things, and frankly we won't forget about the telephone call he had with our friend that put him in this situation. >> so there's a couple things i'm hearing. one is that the president over the weekend was asking some of his closest allies about what they thought about scaramucci and his behavior, and should he getry of him. clearly the answer was yes. the other thing i heard was general kelly, i was told, made the decision two to three days ago. if we're trying to piece this
all together, perhaps kelly made the decision that this needed to happen, went to the president, the president maybe was sounding out his friends and allies, and then the source also said to me -- the days of tolerating b.s. in this white house are over. >> wow. >> i think there's something to be said about pulling the band-aid off. this has been a difficult time in temples of personnel at the white house and having the right people in place. i mean, i hay to say this, but we could see more people go. you have a new chief of staff that wants to bring order, perhaps a more military type of structure, we could actually see more people go. >> there was the points about a star burning a little too brightly when there's really only one star, that being the president of the united states. we talked once upon a time about steve bannon and the caricature of who he was and what he
represented, a little too big for the president. do you think that was the case with scaramucci, the 30-minute conversation he had with chris cuomo on this network at the end of last week. do you think that was a piece of it? >> yes, i think so. i think there's no brighter star in the constellation than the president of the united states. when you have somebody coming out, with a new chief of staff coming in. while your old chief of staff is sitting there, it's unsustainable, untenable. remember, we did not -- donald trump did not tweet about scaramuc scaramucci's volume garrity. he didn't come out and say, by the way, i don't approve of this, because the message that scaramucci was delivering, as vulgar as he delivered it was reince priebus and steve bannon have got to go. that was clearly sanctioned by the president of the united states. i think the way he did it got him in a lot of trouble. i think that that is a real --
that's a real issue. >> it's interesting to know what you're telling me from your sources, that the president had conversations with people over the weekend, maybe feeling them out about what he should do with scaramucci, which any of us wouldn't be sitting here the next day had we used any of that language, yet it took the president having conversations with other people to make the decision in. >> i don't know the exact content, but the question was, is he redeemable or not? >> yeah. >> does he have to go? is there any way to salvage this? after all, scaramucci clearly feels a bond with this president. he's had a bad week. there have been reports in the newspapers he's in the middle of a divorce, he's just had a new baby, now he's lost his join. this is a lot of pile-on. however, it was a problem of his
own creation. >> i do think that what might be lost in all of this is that these conversations do happen a lot where there's so much infighting, but they're often not reported. as the communications director, he did not know the ground rules when he was talking to this reporter where he just lit into everybody. that is a problem. the second thing, when i talk to people on capitol hill, specifically republican offices, there's a sense of decorum still in washington. as partisan as it is, there's a sense of decorum. >> thank goodness. >> i think from capitol hill there was a level of unease having scaramucci be the person who was crafting the message for the president. >> let me bring in brian stelter here on all of this, you know, brian, with earp talking -- i'm losing track of the time frame. i don't know if it was weeks with sean spicer announcing,
knowing that scaramucci was coming in and the president wanted to keep him, he says no, i'm going to leave by august. is there any chance that spicer might stick around with scaramucci out? >> i have asked him. he has not responded. he hayes declined to other reporters asking the same question. i think it's unlikely, but let's not rule anything out on this edition of "white house survivor." i would suggest an alternate scenario, that you see scaramucci give this interview that's shocking, it's possible the president wants this to happen, he wanted scaramucci to shake it up and cause priebus to be leaving. who knows exactly. we'll see if the president tweets about this, but it's quite possible that he was doing some things the president wanted, even when he called ryan liza, by not saying it was off the record. it does seem like the beginning
of the end by scaramucci. he was barely visible after that interview. on one level this is a sad, human story. he had a child born last week in new york with his wife. they're going through a divorce, according to the new york tabloids, which of course are feasting on this story, but people close to scaramucci confirm he wasn't there for the birth of this child, he wasn't able to meet the child for several days because of the brand-new job at the white house he had wanted so long. it's a sad story on that personal, human level. what we don't know is what comes next to him. >> on the personal level, we all wish him the very best, and you mentioned that ryan liza interview, ryan, are you with me? >> i am. hi, ryan. have you been keeping up with the news in the last 30 minutes? thoughts? >> i have.
>> thoughts? >> um, you know, after that interview appeared, a lot of people asked me, do you think anthony scaramucci will be fired, and i would say he's either going to be fired or promoted, you never know with donald trump. i think the early indications were that trump was either neutral to positive about some of the things he said, and of course the biggest story in the wake of that interview was ryan priebus got fired, not anthony scaramucci, so that seemed to suggest where trump's opinion about the interview was. but one thing -- we don't know this yet, but from the statement the white house put out about the new chief of staff john kelly should have a clean slate, it does suggest that kelly is doing what any sane chief of staff would do coming into a
white hous factionalized, making sure that everything is running through him. so it's a sign that perhaps kelly has more authority than reince priebus did, if instead kelly asked or want this had to happen. those are my initial thoughts. >> yes to the clean slate, that was part of the white house statement, and also apparently general kelly, hi chief of staff on day one, apparently he wanted scaramucci removed, because he didn't think scaramucci was disciplined and has burned his credibility. we were on tv all over the place in the wake of this extraordinary interview, but just to remind people, mark preston made the point, how did he not know, coms director at the white house, ground rules on talking to a reporter on the phone and what would be included and not? you've been doing this for
years. it's not like you cajoled this out of him, he just kind of let it rip. >> yeah. look, what happened was i had tweeted earlier in the evening that he was having dinner with sean hannity and other folks. he got out of that dinner and was getting requests from other reporters about it, and was informed of the tweet and called me. the conversation started with him trying to find out who revealed what to me was relatively trivial information, who the president was dining with. and then it sort of you could say escalated. he went off on reince priebus, and pretty colorful language. went off on steve bannon, chief strategist, talked about calling in the fbi to investigate leaks, you know, without actually offering any evidence, that
there was something the fbi should be investigating. i've said this before, it was probably the most unusual interview i've ever had with a government officials in 20 years of covering washington. >> and might be forever and ever and ever from here on out, but what an extraordinary interview. obviously, ryan, i'm good deal to let you catch your breath. thank you for getting to a phone and calling in. listen, as you -- it sounds like a central piece in some of these decisions. let's telling you about how the president perceived the interview between lizza and scaramucci and ultimately talking about his ultimate decision? >> reporter: we know from talking to sources that the president was initially pretty pleased with what anthony scaramucci said. he liked the take no prisoners style that he was exhibiting last week, but that eventually the president soured on anthony
scaramucci, feared he was becoming more of a story than he was or that this white house was, and i can tell you that in talking to anthony scaramucci in several minutes, this source was telling me that scaramucci talked to the new general white house chief of staff yesterday and stepped aside to essentially let him have rein. scaramucci decided to step aside to give general kelly a clean slate is what they're saying. but this friend of scaramucci also said he plans to show up with his other job with the administration, and that's at the import/export bank tomorrow morning at 9:00. this is somebody who has been very close to the president over the last few years, in the presidential campaign, during the transition and then being here in office. according to this friend of anthony scaramucci, the man known as the mooch intends to be
an outside adviser. they are trying very mightily at the white house to sort of put the best face on this, but brooke, make no mistake, when the president is tweeting earlier this morning, "no white house chaos," this once again has been a day of white house chaos, and really the norm, not the exception over here. this is a white house that appears to be in staff chaos and staff turmoil from week to week, and that is why when you talk to people inside the administration, inside the white house, outside the white house people who are close to the president, that is why they say to you that the first six months of this administration have felt like six years, because this is just something that constantly plays out. keep in mind anthony scaramucci just on the job for 11 days and has what is undoubtedly going to go down as one of the most controversial tenures that a white house communications director has ever had. and has done the exact opposite job of what a white house communications director does. this person wasn't shaving the
messaging of this administration, this director was damaging the messaging of this administration, brooke. >> you were there in the briefing room. this is a must-see briefing. we'll take it as soon as it begins with sarah huckabee sanders on quite a day at the white house. jim, please stand by. thank you very much. ann lopez has been seated as mrs. insider. you were just there with me last week. >> what a difference a few days makes. a weekend. >> what a difference two days makes. you've covered him for five years, you were saying before he went to all the fancy parties. you've known him for a little while. you're reaction to this 11-day tenure. >> you know, the funny thing was on friday i was speaking to a friend of his from high school and he said, anybody needs to worry about anthony scaramucci flying too close to the sun. and when i came into he
headquarte headquarters, that friend texted me with a question mark. he started his own hedge fund early, sold that to newburger berman, then he kind of bought this set of assets from citi after the financial crisis that people thought were pretty ugly, nobody wanted to touch them. it would be a lot of work to turn them around, and he did manage to turn them around. he did a lot of things on wall street nobody thought he was going to be able to do. so when he said i'm going into this white house and nobody is going to stop me, and people started to count him out back in january and february when it looked like he wasn't going to get a placement. this time, though, he might actually be down, who knows. but i think one thing we're not talking about here is that the sale of his firm is still not complete. skybridge, which was a fund to funds, which means a hedge fund that sells investors another hedge fund, so you're paying a fee on a fee, okay?
very expensive stuff. skybridge has not sold to h & a, the large chinese conglomerate who is buying the firm, and most analysts say they're overpaying for the firm. wall street is cutting their fees for everything across the board. so what you have is this guy who was joining the administration selling his firm that is in a business that is not looking so hot right now to a chinese conglomerate that wants to overpay for it. there are a lot of questions there. and the deal is pending treasury approval. if donald trump wanted to kill that deal, he could do it tomorrow. >> obviously you haven't talked to him, but knowing him, how would the news of essentially being pushed out fall on his ears? >> it depends on how he's seeing it. i know scaramucci has political aspirations beyond this white house. but i know he also sacrificed a lot for this white house, and he sacrificed relationships and friends, not just diedre, his
ex-wife, but friends on the street who don't recognize him now. but at the same time, he wants to sell this company. he wants to sell it bad. and it was going to be a political headache. if he was very, very close to the president and there was a chinese conglomerate overpaying for his hedge funds. >> thank you for covering this friend you've known for years, and all of this is just fascinating and giving a lot of people whiplash following it all. i'm going to ask you to stand by because again, we're waiting for this white house briefing to begin. how will sarah huckabee sanders explain this to the white house principal and really the rest of the country and the world that the chief of staff wanted the white house communications director out. there's so much more on this. back after this. ♪taking care of business.
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there at the white house, this on day one for the new chief of -- chief of staff, thank you. it's been a long day. chief of staff john kelly on his first day. we're waiting for this white house press briefing to begin in my last 60 seconds, gloria borger, what you know. >> the president initially, as we know, approved of the subject matter of what scaramucci was talking about. then he wanted to get rid of priebus, maybe even bannon over at the white house. but the way he did it rubbed the president the wrong way. we know also that the president had called someone who was an ally of his over the weekend and asked about it. you know, what do you think about this? and barbara starr and i are also reporting that kelly made the decision about two to three days ago. so maybe kelly -- we're all surmising this, but as we piece this together, perhaps kelly was thinking about it, which wouldn't surprise any of us at
all. he goes to the president, the president talks to a friend or more or his family, i have to assume, and then the ax falls. >> gloria, lynnette and mark, thank you so much. jake tapper of "the lead" starts now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we're going to start with big breaking news in the politics lead today. could someone have predicted so much staff turnover from a man whose catch phrase is "you're fired"? adding to the growing list, it's anthony scaramucci gone after just a week and change on the job. his official start date was supposed to be mid-august, for what that's worth. in the last hour at the white house, president trump made no mention of the scaramucci departure, but we do expect to hear something more in the white house daily b