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top of the hour, 10:00 a.m. eastern. good morning, i'm poppy harlow, john berman has the day off. the trump administration is starting as the previous 199 days. some seemingly based on the morning television shows as he is watching on his working vacation. the president saying the stock market, border security, job gr growth and so much more bringing the economy together. the president is happy with the latest sanctions with north korea. north korea is just the
opposite. words coming from pyongyang and rex tillerson is at the same reform as counter parts in north korea. the two have not spoken, but tillerson says there could be a time and place for diplomatic discussions if they would cease their testing. north korea saying that is not happening. rex tillerson sat down with his counter part and complained about moscow's meddling in the 2016 election. it is drawing the countries apart. we are in bridgewater, new jersey, next to where the president is right now. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. clearly the bad weather here in new jersey is driving the president to twitter this morning. though the white house is insistent this is a working vacation that is necessary because of renovations happening in the west wing, the president has no public events on his schedule and spent the morning
tweeting quite a bit, nine times this morning. he is clearly watching television as well. in those series of tweets, he criticized senator blumenthal saying he was talking about his past history and military service and went after the phony, fake polling. he isn't getting enough credit for the accomplishments he's had in these 200 days saying the fake news is not crediting him for supreme court pick, border security or the stock market numbers. >> it's interesting you see a divide even with those closest in the administration, the president coming out and criticizing the polling that shows a slip with his base and the republican party. the president says it's all fake. kel kellyanne conway says approval ratings among conservatives is
down slightly, it needs to go up. what gives? >> reporter: yeah, it was surprising to see her admit the poll numbers are low. he's at 38% job approval rating in the latest gallup poll that came out today. in the president's tweets, he prefers to focus on crowd sizes at rallies like the one in west virginia, which was an area he won overwhelmingly. he focuses on those when the poll numbers aren't reflecting so greatly. >> thank you very much. we appreciate it. there's a lot to dissect. we are joined by our panel. alice, to you, what do you make of kellyanne conway say this? this is a very intelligent woman. she says, yes, the president's poll numbers are down in his party and we need to get them
up? >> certainly, they can't deny the numbers, a lot of times they look at the bigger picture and the things on their agenda and what they are working on. clearly, foreign policy is taking center stage for this administration and for many in the world. they are looking at what they are able to do right now, which is, obviously, as we heard from nikki haley, joining the u.n. and sanctions on north korea, the president signing the legislation or signing on with congress to oppose sanctions with russia. they are looking at the big picture long term, not a snapshot of polling data. >> errol, alice says they can't deny the numbers, the president is. >> that's right. kellyanne conway is a professional pollster, written a book on the subject and has done it for decades, really knows the business. she is not able to play the games the president will where
he denies reality and uses buzz words we have come to learn, using unfair when somebody said something negative about him, using fake news when he knows there's a true, but damaging report published. probably the best thing the trump administration can rely on is he doesn't have to run against an approval rating, he has to run against an opponent. that's a trickier proposition. that would be nice for them and help on capitol hill if they could get their numbers up. they are not in real danger, yet. >> alice, nine statements from the president this morning on twitter, before 9:00 a.m. i haven't counted since, on this working vacation. but, this, in week two of chief of staff kelly's tenure in this new job, there was interesting reporting from bloomberg. here is what they write about kelly and the president's twitter. kelly isn't vetting every
presidential tweet, trump has a willingness to consult with his chief of staff before hitting send that might lead to unwelcome distractions. interesting. is this a new day, a new page in the trump white house? even if he is going to tweet a lot, kelly is seeing them and helping to redirect the language? >> poppy, i certainly hope so. the first few days of kelly being in that position, i was encourage by the reduction in the number of tweets. this morning, things have gone back to normal with him all over the map with regards to fake news, russian meddling and all types of issues. the reality is, what general kelly has been able to do is instore discipline within the white house and bring about a certain level of unity that had been absent for quite some time. that will go a long way getting the team on message and communicating one unified voice
and message. the difficulty is, bringing in the president and keeping him on message and him pushing the legislative ag legislative agenda. that will be a difficult task. we are not going to change donald trump. general kelly made progress with reigning in the troops and trying to get the president. >> talking about accomplishments, before we wrap up, the fact that nikki haley could get all of these nations, all 50 nations on board, including russia and china on north korean sanctions, that's a big deal. you have the president's biggest critics saying this is a huge accomplishment. that said, this is not legislative win points on the board politically, how big is it for the administration? >> it is a big deal. it is an achievement and protects the american people in an important way, which is the p bottom line. it suggests the white house may
want to rethink whether or not it wants to scoff at the position of the leader of the free world, that the president disguarded and disdained. he doesn't act as if he wants to be a leader of european nations, he attacked nato. he doesn't want to maintain relationships with with our neighbor like mexico. the good press they get, a bump in certain parts of his approval ratings might convince this administration it's a job worth doing. >> errol louis, thank you. alice, stewart, nice to have you. >> we have matthew chance, who we normally see from moscow is here in new york. north korea, this is a big win, no matter what political view you come at. it's hard to get russia and china on the same page as the united states. >> it's hard to get them on the
same page, but not hard to get russia and china on the same page. on this issue of north korea, there's an agreement between beijing and moscow, they follow each other's line. the russians don't have a great deal of concern about what happens politically in north korea, the chinese do. >> sure. >> they want to be seen at the top table of diplomacy and be part of the effort to resolve or stabilize the situation on the korean peninsula. it's the meeting that took place on the sidelines as well, i think. >> that is so significant between rex tillerson and his counter part in russia. >> significant. since the u.s. passed the sanctions bill, effectively taking responsibility for ease zing those sanctions out of the hands of the trump administration and putting it in the lap of the u.s. congress. so, it removes one of the main motivations the russians had to
get on better with the white house because they hoped, from the on set, this was going to be a pivotal relationship, turning point between washington and moscow that trump was going to be able to turn around the difficult relations between the two countries. of course, no matter what happens, the personality has been taken out of this and it's not up to trump or tillerson to do this anymore. it's up to congress. i think that will change the nature of the relationship between these two nations. >> and tillerson saying, basically, he, once again, warned russia and said it severely harmed the relationship, a message from the administration that changed so much from 200 days ago when they took the white house. nice to have you here, appreciate it. turmoil in the tech world. backlash is growing, to say the least, after an engineer of google writes a manifesto making
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nice to have you here. david, you call this skillful and you say the ability to get this done by the administration, nikki haley, in particular, is their, quote, biggest foreign policy victory yet. >> it is. this was well put together. it happened relatively quickly after the icbm launch. the size of the sanctions is fairly bi fairly big if fully enforced, that is a big if. not sure it will amount to that. that said, i have no indication and no reason to believe it is going to change kim jong-un's fundmental calculus. if you believe holding nuclear weapons is existential, then no sanction is going to make him give that up. that's the fundmental problem
facing them. >> jill, you say a reality check is in order. do you agree with david, getting china, russia, everyone on the table with the sanctions, it doesn't mean a lot when it comes to how north korea will react or respond? >> i tend to agree that ultimately what will happen is not so clear. i mean, will this actually work? it is very strong statement, a very strong step and i think it is win for the trump administration. the overall effect, will it stop kim jong-un, i do not think it will. i think there are other ways that -- other things that have to be brought to bear. i'm looking, poppy, at how this is being interpreted. i follow russia a lot. russia voted for the sanctions. that is quite noticeable. however, what they are saying in the same breath is the united states is in effect making
tensions more severe in korea, on the korean peninsula. that is kind of, you know, the position the russians and the chinese is, yes, we think north korea is highly destabilizing by setting off the icbm's, but the united states is pushing the envelope and making the situation difficult. it's a nuance vote. it's a win, but a lot of nuances in why each country voted for those sanctions. >> david, how significant is it that russia, like matthew chance noted, how significant that russia agree to the sanctions that the u.s. has been pushing after the president signed the russia sanctions bill into law? >> that was part of the surprise here. of course, he delayed some announcements on trade action against china because he knew this vote was coming up.
here is where the split comes. i think everybody is in agreement that having kim jong-un violate u.n. resolutions and shoot off icbms is a threat to everyone in the region, now it's a direct threat to the united states. where they separate is that the u.s. strategy is to combine the economic sanctions with much increased military pressure. i think over the next few weeks and months you will see a number of step that is will build up the military presence off the korean coast to make it clear to kim jong-un that the u.s. that has option to act preemptively against missile launches, the nuclear sites, so forth. that's where the chinese, russians and maybe the south koreans will part ways from washington. >> jill, we just learned, just crossing now, as we speak, that the president, president trump, had a one-hour phone call with
secretary of state, rex tillerson and his new chief of staff, general kelly, to discuss north korea and rex tillerson's trip to the asia summit and his conversation on the sidelines with his counter part in russia. the first conversation, by the way, since the sanctions bill was signed. >> yeah. that's very interesting. i think tillerson has been pretty key in this. i think one very important moment was when he said that the united states is not interested in regime change in north korea. that is one thing that galls the russians, when there is any idea, especially with russia that there might be an attempt by the united states to carry out regime change. that said, not all the signals from the trump administration had been on that same waive length. there are other indications they are intent on regime change. i think the russians are
supporting this. again, the russians are saying, we support it, but we think washington is making things highly dangerous, we have to go back to diplomacy, et cetera. i think russia right now, has no idea where they are headed with donald trump. so, in every single event that is taking place right now in the world, they are doing something that could be, you know, interpreted, let's say to help trump but at the same time, they are very critical to a personal degree that i have never seen before. i mean, mr. medvedev has personal comments about this administration showing its impotence is the word it used with congress when trump signed the russia sanctions. there are a lot of signs the russians are taking advantage in whatever way they can. if it's taking a swipe at donald trump, they will do it as well.
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>> it is ravaging every single segment of our society. this is a chemical, almost warfare on us that people don't know how to control. >> reporter: the high school cheerleader, addicted at 15. the 20-year-old baseball player, dead. these fathers, now inmates because of their addiction. and even the sheriff's former wife, addicted. this is the real picture of america's opioid crisis, where drugs don't discriminate. it's affecting neighbors across the heartland and coast-to-coast. the intersection between i-70 and i-75 means ohio is a distribution for the drugs and a cross roads. here, the morgue freezers are overflowing with the bodies of those who lost their battle. >> these are kids. they are your next door neighbor, my next door neighbor,
my kids friends. our children. >> i tell my kids when they come to my treatment court, you have three options, graduate from treatment court, go to prison or you are going to be dead. >> reporter: death, jail or recovery, the only options for the millions of americans addicted to opioids from prescription pain pills like ox c oxycodone. >> it's doubled in five months. since december of 2015, we have seen a raise in the deaths. >> reporter: the death rate is three times what it was two years ago. nearly every night his morgue freezer fills up, up to 70% of the bodies in here are mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters who die from an opioid overdose. >> there's no one excluded. this is happening to every
socioeconomic class, every age. >> reporter: one of them was 20-year-old bradly stokesbury. >> great kid. great student. loved life. >> he died from an overdose in the hospital he was born. >> he was my only son. >> reporter: he overdosed on a sunday, just hours after he went to church with his parents, then to a friend's house, then he collapsed. the doctor found the opioid, more powerful than heroin in his system. do you think this hasn't happened to us? >> oh, yeah. >> every morning. >> reporter: how are you holding up? >> better than others. it makes me feel good to help others talk about it. usually, i'm okay with it, not
okay, but better than most and, i don't know, it helps me to talk to others about it. when they get it out, it helps me get it out. >> reporter: what do you want everyone to remember about your big brother? >> just his smile. his laugh. >> reporter: the ohio department of health says more than 3400 people across the state die from an oup youd overdopioid overdos. >> talk to your kids. >> reporter: you did that and you lost your son. >> that's why it's so important. we would have done it more. >> reporter: they have had to perform autopsies on victims as young as 13 months, babies dying from exposure to their parents drugs. >> what's most challenging is seeing the story repeated over and over again. the death rate is so fast. >> reporter: so fast and rising.
even though the number of opioid prescriptions is declining, the ones on the street are more deadly. >> it is designed as a large animal trang train quillizer. that small amount in a human is lethal. >> reporter: kelly runs addiction services and has never seen anything like this. >> if we don't do something, we lose our great thinkers. this runs across all socioeconomic lines and we lose our future. >> reporter: we lose our future? >> we lose our future. we can't do that. >> reporter: the judge is trying to save that future. he runs the montgomery county juvenile court. lately, he sees his job as much more than that.
>> i have jurisdiction to kids until the age of 21. i try to keep them alive. i run the treatment court. i have that on thursdays. there are days i don't sleep because i worry by monday they will be dead. i have pictures of young people that passed away, in this courtroom, who hat here, in front of me and now they are dead. >> reporter: he hasn't lost rachel, she's one of the lucky ones. >> rachel is one of the youngest girls i had. she was using heroin two or three years ago when it was rare for a child to use it. >> when my counselor said, like, i want dwryou to picture your m coming to the morgue to identity fi your body, it broke me. i can't picture putting my mom through so much. >> reporter: she was a high school cheerleader, graduated with a 4.0. under it all was a heroin addiction since the age of 15.
how does a 15-year-old cheerleader, from ohio, start doing heroin? >> it started my freshman year. i was doing good. i was cheer leading. i ended up not going to school as much and i ended up getting kicked off the cheer leading team. >> reporter: your heroin addiction landed you in jail and rehab. did you think you could end up in the morgue? >> i did. i overdosed twice, like officially, like when i was 15, before i stopped. >> reporter: you overdosed twice at 15 years old? for people watching across america who think this can't happen to my kids and this can't happen in my neighborhood and this can't happen in my family, what do you say to them? >> it can. it did. i never thought that i would be on drugs, ever. i never, like, i thought i was happy, had it all, then all of a
sudden, it was taken from me. >> reporter: what's this? >> this is one of our basketball cheer leading pictures. >> reporter: just two months ago, rachel relapsed. only once, she says, su. >> we relapse as a part of recovery. >> every morning, rachel gets up, she knows how lucky she is to have survived. who are these inmates in here for opioids? >> you have 20-year-olds. >> reporter: claire month county sheriff knows the havoc heroin can do. his wife was addicted.
it ballooned into a heroin addiction. after treatment, she's been sober three years. >> while she was in treatment, she had caught on to another, you know, another group of people who brought her up to the next level, heroin. it will take a family and turn it upside down. >> reporter: it did that to you? >> absolutely. >> reporter: it broke your family apart? >> yes. >> reporter: they have seen opioid addiction increase 2000%. >> have compassion. my job is to enforce the law, but you can also do that with some compassion. you can't just throw everybody in jail. >> reporter: he runs this jail, but knows jail alone doesn't heal addiction, it takes more. that's why they started the program here. >> it's a rehabilitation therapy in a jail setting. >> reporter: rehab in jail? is it working?
>> yeah. the numbers are showing it's promising. >> reporter: kenneth and brent are inmates in the cast program. >> when i was 18 years old, someone talked me into using heroin. itis stronger, you don't get sick from it like everyone tells you, which is obvious lay lie. i started doing it and very quickly, i was doing it every day. >> reporter: you are clean now? >> yeah. i actually feel great now. what i think this program did for me is, in the jail, you know, you go to jail, you don't really learn anything. i think this program gave me the ability to take a mess, turn it into a message. >> reporter: a message of hope for his 4-year-old daughter. >> i just want her to be able to look up to me and say, that's my dad and be able to follow me, you know, and be a good thing. >> brent is 36, a father of three and says he's been addicted to opioids half his
life. when you were 18 and took that first pill, what were your dreams then? what did you want to be? >> i wanted to fight for my country. i wanted to join the marines. i'm lucky that i had an opportunity to come here instead of committing more felonies. that's probably where the drug would have taken me. >> reporter: you feel lucky to be in jail? >> yeah. with the epidemic going on with heroin or whatever they are putting in the dope, i could be dead. >> reporter: he was arrested for driving high while his 5-year-old son was in the backseat. >> there's no excuse for what i did, except that's the length you go because you try to live your life, but when you are addicted to a drug like that, you have to use that drug to keep yourself going.
>> reporter: for people watching across america that say, that's them, that's not me. >> it's everybody. i mean, i don't know how many times i have been sitting there waiting on my dealer and see people in lexus, mercedes, getting out in business suits going to the same dealer i was going to. it can happen to anybody. >> reporter: does it come back to your mind that it could have been my son? >> scared to death. scared to death. >> reporter: scared to death and coping with more and more death. preliminary data in ohio show 86% of drug overdoses last year involved an opioid. i think there is a feeling across the country thinking that is so tragic, but, that can't happen to me. that's not in my neighborhood. that's not in my house. that's not in my family.
>> it is. >> you are naive if you think that. it's everywhere. >> reporter: these are the families living heroins hell and watching their dreams and their children's dreams slip away. so, i want to thank all the families that talked to us and shared their deeply personal stories in ohio for doing that. they want to help anyone in this country affected by this and that's why they shared their story. i want to thank our team of producers, they are the ones that make this possible. hailey, jeff and zach, my thanks. you can see a lot more of our reporting. we have more pieces at cnn.com/heroin. we'll be right back.
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putting law enforcement at risk. they say they are at greater risk if they don't feel comfortable calling 911. will other cities join in and take up the coalition against the president? i can tell you, the back and forth, you knew eventually, someone was going to throw the first punch. >> you think it is going to go high up in the court system. ryan young, thank you for that, live in chicago. a northwestern professor accused in the gruesome death of a chicago hair stylist will be arraigned today. he was arrested on friday. they turned themselves in after leading police on a manhunt. both men savagely mutilated 26-year-old trenton corn el. police were able to recover a broken blade from the murder scene. they are currently in california, awaiting extradition to illinois. the tech industry is
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lori see g lori segal is here with us. now this. >> i think that's why there's so much outrage and frustration from women beginning to speak up and saying there is a lot of issues here. this manifesto says this would make it less. men have a higher drive for status and that's why there are less engineers and diversity programs teaching young girls how to code, they are highly politicized. he said google is left leaning and pushes the conversation for a more conservative conversation. there's a lot in the memo. there's a reason it leaked. there's a reason women are outraged. >> and men. >> and men. by the way, talking to folks inside google, not everyone feels this way. this is a very specific thing. the author of the post is getting a lot of private messages saying thank you for put thg out there.
>> really? >> google responded. she said like many of you, i found the document with incorrect assumptions about gender. it's not a view i or the company endorses or promotes. i have come on with you to talk this. all of this has been happening behind the scene that is people felt this way, some people felt this way. we are seeing that come out in the open. >> check me if i'm wrong, but all the data i read over and over again show, not only do you needy versety, hello, it's 2017, but also more diverse teams equal higher profits and better products. >> 100%. that is what we are getting to. look at what happened with uber. you have an engineer putting out a post talking about sexism at the company. it wasn't until you saw this huge wave of people talking
about this and you saw there could be actual ramifications for uber going public that you saw a lot of things happening. you needy versety of mind set when it comes to engineers to build great products. when you are looking at code, you have engineers who are coding future product that is will change the world. of course you need different types of people. you need empathy, you need humanity. that's the conversation happening now. you see with this manifesto coming out. >> the only good thing is that we talk about it and get more attention. thank you for being on it, as always. ahead, talk about a working vacation, president trump marks day 200 in office with a string of messages on twitter, slamming the media and counting jobs and his strong base. much more ahead.
hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. 200 days on the job, but out of the office today. president trump marks a milestone on a working vacation at his new jersey golf club. this, from a man who promised he would neither vacation nor play golf. instead, he is doing something he never said he would stop doing, firing off on twitter and taking stock. with this one. the trump base is far bigger and stronger than before despite phony fake news polling. look at rallies in pennsylvania, iowa,