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been here they're lives wouldn't have been lost. the president has a successful life but not a significant life because i don't know anybody he's made a difference in their lifelike she has. >> pastor edwards i appreciate your time and don gathers as well. thank you so much. >> thank you mr. cooper. >> thank you for watching, "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts right now. see you tomorrow. did you ever think you'd see the day that the president of the united states would affectly and openly defend neo-nazi's and white supremacist? i know i didn't. it's a first time for everything. and today was that day and it is a shameful one. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. if anyone doubted about how the president felt of what happened in charlottesville, virginia doubt no more. standing in the lobby of the trump tower the president launched out in his own words
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and showed us what's in his heart and mind. >> what about the alt left came charges as you say the alt-right, do they have any semblance of guilt? let me ask you this, what about the fact they came charging with clubs in their hands swinging clubs, do they have any problem? i think they do. >> usually in america we're all on the same side when it cams to nazi's, usually, but not today. >> there were people in that rally, and i looked the night before, if you look there were people protesting very quietly, the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. i'm sure in that group there were some bad ones. the following day look like they had some rough bad people. neo-nazi's, white nationalist whatever you want to call them, but you had a lot of people in
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that group that were there to innocently protest, legally protest. because as you know they had a permit, the other group didn't. there are two sides to a story. i thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment but there are two sides to the country -- >> i want to remember -- i want you guys to remember, we're going to play the scene in charlottesville on friday night. the images along with their torches seared into the american psyche over the last five days. the imaging burned, the words chill. >> jews will not replace us! >> black lives matter!
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>> news will not re -- jews will not replace us. those are the innocent people protesting according to the president. and on saturday, who was driving this car? today the president seem reluctant to labor the deadly violence. terrorism. >> the driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family and this country. and that is -- you can call it terrorism, you can call it murder, you can call it whatever you want, i would just call it as the faster one to come up with a good verdict, that's what i'd call it because there is a question. is it murder, is it terrorism, then you get into legal salesman
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semantics. the driver of the car is a murderer and what he did was a horrible horrible inexcusable things. >> the president insisting that all the protesters are neo-nazi's who he then compared with two of the nation's founders. >> i've condemned neo-nazis, and many different groups but not all of those people were neo-nazis, believe me, not all of those people were white supremacist by any stretch. those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, robert e. lee. excuse me, can you take a look at some of the groups and you see -- and you foe if you were honest reporters, which in many cases you're not, but many of those people were there to
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protest the taking down of the statue of rot e. lee. this year it's robert e. lee, i wonder if it's george jefferson next week and george washington the week after. because george washington was a slave owner, so he will now lose his status are we going to take down -- excuse me, are we going to take down to george washington? how about thomas jefferson, what do you think about thomas jeffers jefferson do you like him? okay because he was a major slavery owner, are we going to take down his statue. sir you know what it's fine, you're changing history you're changing culture. >> mr. president, i would say that you're the one who changed history today. when the president of the united states traded away the moral authority of the office and lent support to those who would destroy the valuings of this --
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values of this country. turn to senior political analyst mark preston son, senior white house correspondent jimmy acosta, silent nazi toe, and republican strategist rick wilson. jim, i don't know how you do it. what was that like? this president needs to go back and have an elementary history lesson. >> it was disturbing, don. i think we saw the president's true colors today and i'm not sure they were red, white and blue. the white house put out talking points today. this is what they say. the president was entirely correct. both sides in charlottesville acted i want appropriately and bears toj. there's other that said he has been a voice for unity in calm. this is alice and wonder land stuff. how the white house can put out talking points to say the
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president was in the right here is baffling and strange. they are right in one respect, he has united the country against the views he else spoused today which was right there on the edge of white nationalism. >> yeah, i was watching today with my colleagues here at cnn and listening to you and hearing him say disparaging thing about the media. we couldn't believe it, mash press son. my e-mail to one of the producers here is this is his true colors today. he repeatedly blamed both sides. there are both sides that are here, one of them is a white supremacist group, mark presston, another is a group of facism. one want to distoish blacks and jews and anyone whose not white. is this a defining moment for
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this president, is this presidency out of control? >> i do think it's a defining moment when it comes to you really learn a lot about somebody when they are faced with adversity. what we saw today a few hours ago, president trump took those questions, we saw he's really unable to face adversity in a way and to be able to answer questions in a way that allows him to move on. the idea that, you know you're assuming that he was ever in control of the white house as well, don. i would suggest that, you know from day one, this has been a white house that has been really in chaos and really the chaos is driven from the top. we put a lot of criticisms on the aids that voun him but really this is about donald trump. from a greater perspective, don, this is bigger than the news conference today. the reason being, we're seeing a lot of republicans come out who have in the past not been as vocal to donald trump, come out against him. we saw in cnn's most recent
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poll, he is in the all-time low of any president in american stand with his standing with the american people. how does he plan to get his agenda through? there are several world crises that we have to address right now and donald trump cannot seem to get over something simple to show some empathy with this protest down and of course the deaths. >> look, the buck stops with him but you're not letting the people in the white house who, you know spin his lies, you're not letting them off the hook are you? >> oh no, absolutely not. i mean look it, no question about that. i think when we're talking about donald trump and the white house it should start with donald trump and trickle down from there. you saw the pictures of his chief of staff, chief of staff
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didn't look happy on what was spewing out this afternoon. >> did you see him there? >> i was 10 feet away from general kelly and that picture captures it all. arms crossed, staring down at his feet. and he was brought in to bring control and discipline to the white house. you can't do that when the president is disorderly and uncontrollable. >> you don't think they put him out there knowing what he was going to say? because he was like i brought my statement. he was ready. >> my understanding, don, and this is what happened, they came down stairs and told the reports listen t president's going to come down with cabinet and make a statement, talk about infrastructure, go back up to trump towers and then come out and take the questions. he couldn't resist it. as soon as the question was asked about what happened a couple days ago he had to go off. not only did he go off, he one
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way off script to the point where his own people -- we saw people in the trump tower today putting their hands over their face or their jaws dropping. >> i came in earlier to the rick ball win show, i say i'm going for a run, and i saw the press conference and i was like i'm not going anywhere. speaking of pictures we show the picture of general kelly. april this is for you, video showing a young african-american man, deandre harris being beaten down by white supremacist. when you see that and you see the president talking about there being people on both sides, what are you thinking? what is he thinking? >> he's thinking about himself and what he actually feels. what he's speaking is from his heart and that's what's in his heart. and the bottom line is, is that this president is saying things
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to basically allow his base, the david dukes and those like david duke to feel freet to do what they want. don, this started friday, and if he can't see that this is terror, when you have white men braise son enough to carry tiki torches like they did back in the day, but it wouldn't torches, with hoods to scare slaves and other groups, that's intimidation. like strange fruit hanging from the trees and lynching, and talking about negative things about jews in this country. the jewish and black community is hurt by this. and needless to say that that man who rammed that man into the other cars and killed that poor young lady that was murder, it
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was more than murder it was terror. and the president say the media is dishonest, weldon, i don't use the l word much but the president lies. the president lied about his feelings. he said indeed he gave his heart today saying all sides were involved and created this. no it was one side that started this. >> and the question is, this president has been fighting for so long people calling him racism, him saying i'm not a racism because of the the central park five and on and on and on, my african-american -- >> the housing discrimination issue in new york. >> and all of these thing, selena, is this president racist? >> and take back make america great again that's cold. i don't know if he's racist. even george w. bush when people tried to reach out people
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thought that he -- george w. bush wen to martin luther king's grave site people booed him. some of those things people might say rings hallow but at least you had someone who tried. >> april, even bob dole said at a questioning when he was running for president of the united states, i don't want you there's the exit doors. selena i'll ask you the same question, is this president racist? >> well, i mean i can't speak to his heart, right you know, but today's press conference was awful. you know, and here's the problem with someone who covers the people who voted for him, he is making his grudge with the press more imimportant than the appeals that he promised he was going to do. and the people don't benefit from his grudge, only he does.
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and he's -- he will eventually let that down if this continues. you know, i mean this is all about -- no, it's not all about, but a lot of this is about sticking it in the eye of the press because he's, you know, he is pissed. he's felt that we have wronged them. while his voters don't particularly care for our profession they're not all in. they don't win from a grudge, they win from policy. this was supposed to be an infrastructure -- >> this is not about the press. >> -- event right and you know what look it turned into it it was a mess. >> yeah. >> there was not about the press. it's about race and hate. i'm all with you about the press stuff when it comes to the press but this is not that this is bigger than this. this is something that's a piece of this president. he's talking about his feelings about matters of race, except
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healing he created more of a kaz. . he's saying the racial issue is better now with him, it's not the divide is more so now than ever before and there are spillage happening around this country. this is not about the press. >> this is not even a wink and a nod. i understand what you're selena but this day -- i can talk to jim acosta all day about calling people fake news, that's not what this is about. the words coming out of his mouth were shocking, it was like does he realize that were t.v. cameras there -- >> it was so uncome forceable. >> rick, i got to ask you because you're agreeing with april when saying it's about the press. he attacked this judge in his mexican heritage, he attacked the islamic, he made fun of a
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disabled reporter, he used dog whistles throughout his campaign. >> don, this is why folks like me on the conservator side of the equation looked at donald trump from the beginning who is morley unfit to be president. he doesn't understand the things he's talking about and the death to our potential danger of our republic on allowing these kind of people on the alt-right and clan movement he doesn't understand the danger of allowing them to get oxygen. he doesn't understand the allowing the violence they represent to fester. today when he went back and spoke from his heart and gut you heard the real donald trump. he really wants this to be a start contrast between, you know donald trump's sort of vision of this '50s america, and probably 1850s if you get right down to it. he wants it to be that start contrast between the dirty hippies on the one hand who is
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just as bad as the nazis on the other. there is no more e equivalence there never can and will be. i don't care what you go true as a trump reporter and saying, well he was calling out the press, no, you don't get to say that. the clan is unacceptable, neo-nazis unstep bl on american like. anyone who embrace them is unacceptable in american life. donald trump sending signals that he thinks their morally equal to anybody else. >> not to cut you off rick, here's what a former ku klux klan david duke and white spremist praising his tweet today. duke said this, thank you from the trump for taling the truth
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about charlottesville and let this terrorist and blmity fa. and i am proud of him for speaking the truth. he's getting praise from big got, and to something that's not true, rick, i'll let you finish. i asked april, and if this president was racist, what do you think? and selena as well? >> what? >> rick? >> yeah, no, like i said you sa said, this is a guy that engages in behaviors if your supporting racist and condoning them and giving them room to grow and giving them nods and wink and retweeting or whatever and you're telling them they're just the same as the other people protesting there you're gaving them aid and comfort. these people are equivalent of a
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domestic terrorist group and they need to be treated as such. he's giving them this, your morally equivalent, it's okay don't worry about it guys. i have to condemn them because the normal people need to hear me say that, it's okay, wng wink. the man is unfit to be president. stay with me everyone. when we come back, six ceos putting the president manufacturing counsel in protest of his response to charlottesville. are they doing what the republican party has so far been encable of doing? leaving the president. ♪ ♪ i'm living that yacht life, life, life ♪ ♪ top speed fifty knots life on the caribbean seas ♪ ♪ it's a champagne and models potpourri ♪ ♪ on my yacht made of cuban mahogany, ♪ ♪ gany, gany, gany, gany
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happened in charlottesville. >> i didn't know david duke was there, i wanted to see the facts. and the facts as they started coming out were very well stated. in fact, everybody said his statement was beautiful. if he would have made it sooner that would have been good. i couldn't have made it sooner because i didn't know all of the facts. frankly, people still don't know all of the facts. they were very important -- excuse me excuse me -- it was very important to me to get the facts out and correctly, because if i would have made a fast statement -- and the first statement was made without knowing much other than what we were seeing. the second statement was made after, with knowledge, with great knowledge. there's still things -- excuse me -- there's still things that people don't know. i want to make a statement with knowledge, i wanted to know the facts. >> jim, does that even make
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sense -- i mean how -- whose that laughing? >> it's rick. >> yeah, i'm because i'm watching at home, the car had hit the person by the time the president gave the press conference. how many times has he gotten out ahead of the fact to call someone a terrorist attack? >> over the years he said the president barack obama wasn't born in this country, he said barack obama wiretapped me, didn't have the facts when he made that story. then the other thing was he said, i didn't know david duke was there, later on than he said in another breath saying i watched this very closely. there were contradictions in what he said all day long. so, i don't think it's really a surprise to anybody that he's else spousing these views, we've been talking about dog whistles all day. these are loud speakers at
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trump. >> no word in the trump lexicon is a tread worn as unprecedented, but members of the president's staff stunned and disheartened, they said they never expected to hear a valuable articulation of opinions that the president had long expressed in private. april, ryan, he said this in private, thing like this. they were shocked that had he actually said it biblically. that's what they said to me. >> what does the bible says, so a man thinkth so he is. it comes out eventually. he's got african-americans on his staff i'm wondering what they're thinking about this today, and i'm not going to mention name. i wonder. then you also have black republicans who i'm hearing from who are very very very upset. i pear there's supposed to be some kind of early morning call with the orange sea in the morning about this. then you have donors who are
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very very upset saying things to the people that they are supporting them and their donations saying you need to control your president. they're like, we can't do that. so the fall out is great. but the question is, when and how will this stop? there has to be someone, who i guess as the leader of the free world can say this has got to stop and put the blame on wherefowhere ever it goes, the david dukes of the world and anywhere else. this president is laying blame on people who wants to fight against this ugliness. >> and mark again, members of president's staff stunned and disheartened says they never expected to hear opinions that the president long expressed in private. this is who he really is. they were shocked. they didn't expect him to go out and say it in front of t.v. cameras. >> don, let me go back to this
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is being a much bigger problems whether or not inside he harbors racial views or that he's supportive of that because it is a much bigger problem for us, certainly on the world stage, certainly here as we have all these problems that we have to address. donald trump is using all this valuable oxygen to try to defend the indefensible and it makes no sense. just as you were playing the clip of donald trump's news conference a minute or so ago, i received a text from a free promise social conservator that said make him stop. and that just says it all right there. we're a community that supported president trump, you know, part of the republican party that got behind donald trump, you're having this -- a conservators say, make him stop. an hour ago i spoke to a prominent lobbyist downtown that said he can no longer watch
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television anymore, because the news is always bad. donald trump able to have conversations here in washington, having conversations with world leaders there is so much on his plate but yet he always seems to create a smokescreen for himself and can't walk his way through it. >> here's a speaker ryan tweeted. we must be clear, white supremacy is repugnant. the bigotry is not what this country stands for. there could be no moral ambiguity. he didn't mention anything about the president. >> don, i don't believe republican leaders are taking this seriously, when they not on condemn the president by name and tell him he's wrong, i'll also believe they're serious about this when they go to the president and say, we are members of a coequal government and unless until you dismiss steven bannon, steven miller, received gor ka and the other cast of peppy the dog team
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inside the administration we're going to stop the presses, you're not getting anything until we see you take a marketley different direction. that's when i'll take the republican members seriously. all this bind closed doors, all these phone calls i get from members, oh i'm so upset it's horrible i'm concerned. show you have moral standing of members of coequal branch of government and get out and tell this guy unless he corrects his behavior there's going for consequences. they have that power. if they chose not to use it their abandoning their leadership in this country. >> the sours tell you that leadership is affectiveness to governor is dwindling by the hour. >> i think it goes to rick's point and that is is, when do they stop saying this anonymously. when do they start saying this
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pointedly about the president. history has offered these moments to our leaders, and history is kind of issuing that call right now. who is going to have that moment of courage inside the republican party to stand up and say, no, mr. president, you're wrong, you can't do this anymore. we have not reached that moment yet. there have been senators here and there, jeff flake and so on, who have made strong statements. but until paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, until a prominent member of the republican party steps forward and says, it's time to stop mr. president, i don't think his behavior is going to change. >> well, business leaders too are upset. six executives have re-signed from president trump's manufacturing council and i'm wondering how many it's going to take. and i'm wondering selena, whether you look at this, this has to be devastating, i know he won't admit it but for someone who calls himself the ultimate business maker, that these
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business leaders are rejecting them. but i'm wondering beyond that what about the base? again i call you the trump supporter whisperer right? when they look at these images and the president's response and i'm sure many of them don't want to be labeled racist and put in the same category as these folks. what do they feel about this? >> right, that's the pact a little bit right. first of all, you know, when the president did not immediately say something on saturday, correct, he opened -- there was all kind of egregious things -- >> what about today though? the moment today? >> well, yeah it began on saturday where the trump supporters are starring to feel like if he doesn't say something it makes us all look like we support this and we don't. and that then becomes the fault line for him, you know going forward from today, right. he's letting grudges and his
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grievances get ahead of him and he has completely misunderstood his base, his coalition. they elected him to do things, they elected him, you know, like the politics of conflict have been going on for the past few presidencies right. stop this continuation of the politics of conflict, they elected politics results right. and they're going to start walking away from him if he doe. if he doesn't start to, you know, behave in -- i mean he's elected as a disrupter but there is a co-rum that he needs to adopt. by what he said today and saturday he not only makes him look like a racist but he makes it seem as though his supporters
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are. and that's the thing that they sort of fought against. >> i got to go selena. >> okay. >> there are enough people out there with those torches to elect a president of the united his base and these racist comments aren't going to work. thank you all. breaking news, in alabama the senate primary, chief just ro rory more and senator luther strange will set to head off elections next month. strange was appointed to fill the seat of jeff sessions one he became the attorney general. senator strange has the backing of president trump. when we come back, everyone has been waiting for this president to change, to act more presidential. but is it time to accept that this is just who he is? except ws to retirement.
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charlottesville. let's discuss that now with dan brewer and anna navarro. hell low to both of you. governor i'll star with you. you were an early trump surrogate from the earlier days of his campaign. were you ashamed of the president today? >> no, absolutely not i was not ashamed. i think hi took the bull by the horns, spoke from his heart and this relentless reporting and this relentless attacking of him is not serving our country or the issues that we talk about well. and it's getting a little overburdensome. i'm feeling that the people of america and the united states particularly have about had it. >> governor with all due republic respect, the words came out of his mouth today, he said it, the words came out of his mouth on saturday, he said it. so what are we suppose to ignore
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it? >> what did he say, he said this hatred and bigotry has got to stop. >> he equated a racist nazi group to people who are protesting fascism. he appears to be ignorant of the history of this country. >> don, saying that doesn't make it true or the facts -- >> tell me what's not true of it? tell me how -- governor tell me how the protesters and anti-protesters how are they equivalent? >> they, he has denounced -- he has denounced the ku klux klan and the nazis he has done it over and over and david duke, and you people just keep on reporting that he hasn't done it. it's unbelievable. >> no one has reported that he that's done it, that is not true governor. he did it and denounced him each time he has he does it under
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duress and it takes him days later to do it. >> that's not true. >> that is true. are you not watching or reading? >> i -- well i am watching, i'm watching a lot, but today i've been quiet busy. but it's from morning to night, we keep hearing all these mistruths about what's going on and people reading things into a situation that are absolutely not happening. and so, you're forming all this stuff in people's minds without them being allowed to make their own decision. i thought his speech on saturday was fine. i thought the one on monday was terrific. i thought today he came forward and spoke from his heart. he doesn't want this. we need to bring our country together. you know, don, i am old, i'm 72 years old, i've lived through a lot of this. and i denounce the ku klux klan i think their terrible and what
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happened in charlottesville is horrible. the fact of the matter is that there were groups there to the far left and right, call them what you want, call them the ku klux klan, i'm sure they were, they had their torches and tooth left you had antifa and they had torches today. i listened to this tonight waiting to come on, nobody's talked about the left. it's a bad situation, it's not america and we've got to come together and stop all this, we got a country. >> all right governor, i want anna to get in on this. anna what do you say to the governor and what's your response? >> honest i don't have anything to say to her. i think that trump poll gists are going to justify and seeing the thing he say did not happen. i think it's a waist of time and useless exercise to try to quince th-- convince them
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otherwise. let me instead of talking about that let me talk to donald trump. and tell him as president of the united states he represents blacks, jewish and hispanic and every person of every creed and it is his job as the president of the united states to stands up for each and every american and stand up against racism and bigotry. peddling to racism is just as bad as being a racism. so he's either ary schism or peddling to it and both are frankly unacceptable, and make him unfit to be president of the united states. if you can't be president, if you cannot stand up and represent americans you should not be president. and to my party, to the republicans who are speaking out today, my question is, what the hell took you so long? when someone shows you who they are the first time believe them. for too long republicans and congress elective leaders have looked the other way why a racist bigted big is in the
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white house. let me tell you what he cannot exit late the office of the presidency of the united states. we cannot capitulate moral clarity, principles, republican values and american values. no piece of legislation, no bone that he may throw on policy, no regulation is worth cheapening the office of the united states this way. it is breaking us apart. it is not news that's breaks us apart it is the president of the united states who has causing the news. the republicans need to stand up, grow a spine and feed to rejessica him. i'm tired of hearing republicans say they're disappointed and disturbed by something he says. when he invites you to the white house, don't go. when he invite you to dinner, don't go. do not stand next to him until he starts behaving in a presidential manner and if he can't you got to confront him over and over and over and over again. >> and governor, here's what
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folks are saying, those comments today at trump tower in the same place where he launched his presidential campaign in june of 2015 by saying this. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best they're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, their rapest and some i assume are good people. >> so, governor, the folks who his credit tilks are saying they shut -- showed us who he was in those comments two years ago, at least it's consistent and he didn't change and people shouldn't be surprised by his comments today they expect it all along. >> what issue do you take of him saying what he said. we know we're not getting the best of what mexico can send to us. we know the drug cartels are
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down there, we know the rapists are coming across and go to sanctuary cities, head back and come back here again. you know, this is america, and more than people ought to be protected also. >> anna i'll let you respond to that -- and. >> all this negative ret trick. >> as a latino i'll land you respond to that. >> again don, life is too short to respond to that. but i will say you are right, he showed us during campaign over and over and over who he was. we heard him attack judge, we heard him attack the cons, we heard him attack mexicans, women, over and over and over again we showed us who he was. but republicans, so many republicans, look i have friends here in miami who voted for him because he was going to chang cuba policy and he did. but that is not enough. the harm he is causing this
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country is just too great to look this t other way. many people thought when he entered the oval office he would become presidential. the magnitude of his office would make him change and become a presidential figure. 6.7 months have gone by, 7 months have gone by you don't change a 70-year-old man. he is not going to chang. it's time republicans start realizing that and stop giving hip a damn chance he's not going to change. he will continue embarrassing us and making us feel ashamed. >> governor, and you're okay with everything he said today? >> i am -- i am -- from everything that i heard-of-a problem with it. but the fact of the matter is is that all of this rhetoric is all sour grapes because it's just continually coming through the networks across our country. and he was duly elected, he is the president of the united states and for people to use some of the verbiage they
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used -- >> anna is a long time run by the way. >> understand that. now you -- >> you said it's destroying. >> bottom line he's our president. we need to -- >> pardon. >> i was trying to help you complete your thought. >> it's just -- it's just -- it comes across, it sincerely comes across that everybody's candidate didn't win so they just want to go after the president on every little issue, there's code words, dog whistles, there's this and there's that. i mean my god, i've lived again, a long time and i've never ever seen part of our country behave in this manner to this extent. it's over the top and it's disturbing. and so many -- >> there are people who are watching governor who say that it sounds like you're talking about donald trump and those people who are out there and torches the other night. >> those are bad people, those
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are bad bad people. nobody is going to say that the ku klux klan carrying tiki lights are good people. >> well president said that today, he said they were good people in there. >> let me just say thi this. i do not say -- wait, general jen i didn't interrupt you so please give me the same respect which as taken tremendous -- >> i haven't sbreped you. >> one of the thing he did today was come out and attack the senior senator from arizona who is battling brain cancer right now, i find that offensive, not only as a friend of john mccain's but as an american. i fine it offensive as a human with empathy, i fine it offensive for my friend cindy and megan mccain. and if anybody is going to ask me to respect donald trump
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because he's president, first i would say to them, tell him to president the presidency, tell him to president the american people. tell him to treat his office with the dignity that it deserves. do not hold me to a higher scrutiny than you hold him. do not hold me to a higher he is dividing us. not us. believe me, i got over jeb bush years ago. he ran a terrible campaign. if you think this is sour grapes over jeb bush, are you sorely mistaken. this is pain. over what is happening in the united states of america. a country that embraced me and that is today my homeland. >> i heard something today where he said yes, that senator mccain voted against fixing health care. is that outlandish? everybody knows the president and the congress -- >> i don't think you saw the video. >> ana, let me finish.
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i am a friend of john mccain. i have known him for a long time. i know his family. i respect him. he's an american war hero. i have defended him. but for you to take that statement -- if that statement is the one you're referring to, out of context of the way it was said, it's not realistic and it's not right and it's not fair. >> here's the problem you have. there's actually video. i'm not making this up out of thin air. there's video, there's odd ye of what he said. he absolutely attacked john mccain. i think maybe you didn't see the video. you've been busy. because if you're a friend of john mccain -- >> what did he say, ana? >> you -- before you come on tv to discuss and respond to what donald trump's press conference, maybe you should have watched. because if it you had watched you would be as offended as i am.
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>> senator mccain, the one who voted against obamacare? you mean senator mccain who voted against us getting good health care? >> and then he went on to talk more. >> i can hear that. preventing people from getting good health care. well, we know exactly what i said previously, don. >> you think he meant that in a kind manner? >> are you kidding me? are we going to say a mean manner or a kind manner? >> you can say yes or you can say yes. it depends on the context of what you're saying. i'm just wondering. it didn't sound like he was saying something nice. he was treating john mccain nicely in that moment. it seems like he was being sarcastic and condescending to the reporter about john mccain. >> maybe the fact is he wanted to get his health care bill
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through and it didn't happen. so we move on and we need to s move on and -- all right. >> no, i didn't cut you off. i didn't say anything. but thank you, governor. we'll end it there. that's a good moment to end it. when we come back, the president comparing robert e. lee to thomas jefferson today. we'll explain what he's getting wrong about the confederate states next.
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august 15th, 2017, could go down as a possible turning point
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in the trump presidency. what a day, what a day, gentleman. my goodness. this press conference earlier today. president trump described the events in charlottesville and the weekend. i'm going to play that moment now. for the sake of giving our viewers an accurate picture of what occurred over the weekend. we're going to show you what was going on at that time. >> there were people in that rally and i looked the night before. if you look. they were people protesting very quietly. the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. i'm sure in that group there were some bad ones. the following day it looked like they had rough, bad people, neo-nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. but you had a lot of people in
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that group there to innocently protest and legally protest. i don't know if you know they had a permit. the other group didn't have a permit. so i only tell you this. there are two sides to a story. >> michael, what's your reaction to trump's version of the weekend events? >> um, it's a stunning distortion of the truth. it is not a radical departure from what he has historically done since he has been president and before. he has bought into universe that is an alternative description of the world we see before us. he has bent the facts to his own tortured reasoning and he has been incapable of acknowledging his own wrongness. so what we see here, don, is an extension of everything that made him president that we don't want to face up to that millions of people bought into. here you were and your previous guests. you had a woman, governor jan
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brewer, who put her finger in the face of the first african american president. asked to treat him like a boy on the tarmac in arizona. the tree doesn't -- the apple doesn't fall far from the tree from which so much pains. i think what donald trump did today was create a false equivalence between warring sides. on the one hand we have the alt-right full of white supremacy, white nationalism, the detestation of jews, latinos and other peoples of colors and other sexual orientation, verses those protesting fascism in this country. that doesn't suggest there couldn't be a problem on the part those on the left. but it says to draw a parallel between those who believe it
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precious is egregious. and when he goes into talking about george washington and thomas jefferson, neither of those men, unlike robert e. lee, were sesessionests. they were the ultimate patriots because despite the undeniable legitimacy of the claim that they were slave owners, they at least provided a bullwerk for us to reinterpret the constitution and the declaration of independence to the advantage of those of color and women and others left out. robert e. lee wanted to divide this nation up and make it something not whole. epluribus unim. he sought to undermine the crete of this country. >> he just spins conspiracy theories. remember the whole birther
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movement that he became the megaphone from. i'm the white donald trump and you're not white so you're not a real american. he's embracing neoconfederate history revisionism. for a president of the united states, championing stonewall jackson almost crying. you're going to take jackson down next and somehow tieing to tie in thomas jefferson and george washington, two great men who did so much for our country to people in the south who ripped down the american flag and wanted to keep the institution of slavery. but the real history that was important to me today was what vice media did with the film footage. dwight eisenhower demanded people during the holocaust film to show the reality of what was going on. these were thugs with tiki torches saying the most vicious
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thing about jewish americans, spilling anti-semitism and hatred into streets and donald trump tried to pat them on the back today. it's a very low moment in u.s. presidential history. >> scott jennings said it best about there being good people there. if you see people next to you carrying swastikas and confederate flags and saying horrible things with horrible writings about jewish people and african americans and you've already checked your decency that gate. so for him to make that argument is a little bit disingenuous. >> if it wasn't for that vice media film footage, that's how history gets distorted. but we have the documentary footage to show how wrong trump was. >> we have so much to get to tonight. apologize.


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