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spl. >> breaking news. whether it is hurricane irma or the growing reaction to the ending of program known as daca and including a new promise that the clock starts ticking for hundreds ever thousands of young people the childrens of immigrants and time runs out in march. now some took to the trees today along with supporters in cities across the country. the reaction is mixed at best with big name ceos and gop lawmakers critical and cautious support from hall ryan and enthusiastic support from the red state attorneys gem who were pushing for this. now it is up to congress. the president is offering no suggested legislation that he might sign. however he did offer this new
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tweet tonight. just moments ago he tweeted, congress now has six months to legalize daca, something the obama administration wasn't able to do. if they can't, i will revisit this issue. we'll talk about all tv with the panel members but for the first, for the latest to sara mary on the north lawn of the white house. so the tweet, is there any clarity from the white house on what he means by revisiting the issue because it does seem at odds with what he said earlier. >> well it is at odds with the attorney general saying they are resibding the program. -- and cold comfort to the nearly 8 hub thousand people who could be impacted this by policy change holding out the possibility that maybe the president could make sp change later down the line. that maybe congress will step up and get its act together and pass an immigration bill. there is a lot of skepticism about that here in washington. and across the united states. for good reason. and there is still a very real chance that people will have this status, that it will lapse
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and they will get deported even as the white house insists thought the people are not high priority for deportation. >> there is a background document that the white house sent to capitol hill for talking points for allies and it describes a future, that doesn't have as much heart as what the administration is saying in public. >> that is right. even as the president is insisting that he would treat dree dooem -- d.r.e.a.m.ers with heart, the talking points sound different. let me read you one of them. it says the department of homeland security urged daca recipients to use the time remaining on their work authorizations to prepare for and arrange their departure there from the united states and including seeking travel documentation or apply for other immigration benefits for which they may be eligible and encourage them to make other plans or aother arrangems and
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prepare to leave the country that some of the people it is the only country they know. they don't know the home country or speak the lang there. >> saura mory. thank you. and the president weighed in on this putting out a length statement on the facebook page writing it is because this action is contrary to our spirit and common sense the business leaders and those of all political strives calls on the administration not do what it did today. and he [ inaudible ]. joining me tonight, molly ball and matt lewis and paul pig ow let. and would you have confidence in congress tonight. >> i don't think anybody would. particularly on immigration in the last decade. this is the sense in which the president really is not wrong. immigration policy has been a hot rock, that congress has continually tried not to handle
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for so long. they have tried to -- presidents republican and democrat, george bush and barack obama have tried and there is an issue in which there is substantial bipartisan consensus and they haven't been able to get it done because it is complicated and because neither side wants to give the other side a win. if it were the case that donald trump were clearly calling on congress to do something, there is the opportunity for a real sort of nixon to china moment however he has muddled the message. nobody really knows what he wants congress to do. nobody really knows what he wanted to be the outcome. he seemed to not be blamed on one hand for anything bad happening to anyone. but on the other hand he doesn't want to anger what he perceived as his base and he doesn't want to be accused of being soft on immigration. >> and he did run on being this deal maker who got people together in a room and worked things out. there is no evident of that.
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>> he's handed healrepublicans huge problem. there is a real possibility that we'll gend to the end of -- to the end of 2017 and the republicans and the senate and the house and the presidency and the only significant accomplishment will be raising the debt ceiling and giving illegal immigrants legal status in america. so from a base standpoint, president trump maybe kicks it over to the house. republicans are'l -- are reallyn a no win situation. >> and in tweet, it is hearing the criticism and stay i sag -- saying if congress doesn't address this, but who knows that what means. >> there is a stand alone bill and republicans mie bright to pair with this but if it is a stand alone bill, republicans, if they try to pass this, and fail, then they look like they can't get anything done. and then you are going to see
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this horrible negative publicity every time a d.r.e.a.m.ers is deports and republicans are blamed because they didn't get it done. if they do pass a stand alone bill, this le betray the base, who elected them. never mind the immigration, but repeal obamacare and do tax reform and it is the only possible they might do this year is daca. >> well, anderson, from people like me that were supporting donald trump as i candidate, today is one of the days where he ran on something and he did something and he picked the people. general sessions to do what said to do and then he did it in a way the tweet should have been i want to let the american people know, if you don't believe in me, i'm not a dictator. i'm sending it over to congress to do what it says. you are in charge of immigration. since 2001, molly, there is a bill in the congress to do so-called immigration reform. and when obama had the house and senate, total control, he didn't do it. >> why. >> because the american people
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don't want it. >> because the republicans kill killed it. >> broobama had control. and obamacare passed -- >> [ multiple speakers ] >> the republicans an the -- >> they filibustered president bush's attempt at immigration reform first. and then they -- filibustered president brohm. >> and in 2010 they fill -- and in 013 john boehner refused to bring it to the floor and he knew he could have passed it with the majority of support. he refused to do it. so it is in the lapse of republicans, the fact that we do not comprehensive immigration -- >> and that is what the president said. >> and to his point, he ran on this. >> and he was all over the map. he said the love the d.r.e.a.m.ers and nothing bad will happen to them. so he incoherent and seven
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minutes ago he added to that by saying i will revisit this. the white house today said that president obama's daca order was unconstitutional. it is disputed, you could find both sides but the president said he thinks it is unconstitutional and so why would he rooefr visit something that is unconstitutional. he's completely at sea here. i do want to bring -- a human element to thirs. >> it is a pretzel. >> and alonzo geean is a d.r.e.a.m.er. he was. a 25-year-old man. he saw the storm in houston. got in his car and drove 100 miles to rescue strangers who he didn't know and he lost his life and died in that storm as a hero. and yet had he lived, he could be subject to deportation. >> and demale shaw was killed
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been anyone illegal immigrant immigrant who murdered him. >> [ inaudible ]. >>. [ multiple speakers ] >> we have a policy. >> should we dooer port white guys. >> don't you think we should ahave a policy debate. >> and we have the rule of law. and i personally support the d.r.e.a.m.ers bill. >> thought reasons should have done that to begin with. but people who came hereil el -- illegally, they do not have a right to stay. now i think we should be compassionate and i think america might be sfronger with them here. but they don't have a right to stay. and we do have to hon dwror the rule of law and i think that includes the congress -- the congress passing this -- >> so how does president make an argument for the rule of law when he just pardoned joe arpaio found guilty of violating the rule of law in a federal court. >> i won't argue that he is coin consist -- consistent. >> here is the other thing -- i
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i they wud she support the dr-- >> [ multiple speakers ] >> they are acting -- >> yes we should. >> they don't have a right to speak. >> nobody is saying they have the right to stay here. >> what we are -- >> that is the sense i'm getting. >> these are kids that are here through no fault of their own and did they did not decide to come here and break the law. they are parents did that. but they are here and grew up in this country, most of them it is the only country they know. and many of them know no other language or culture. they are people who have lost their lives helping others. they have assuma couple laudy and people who served in the military and have bled and died and this is how we repay them. an this is best we have to offer and we are as american as everybody on this panel. >> aerpd anderson trump ran on america first. this is about america workers firps and you -- >> but when he was not a
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candidate, when he called into fox news, he said this did not have any impact on american jobs. >> i didn't vote for him when he was a business man. >> i voted for his policy as president. >> how could you argue -- >> that is a good stance. >> how could you argue that this has no impact on american jobs and then now -- >> i'm not argue that. today what he said was is extra constitutional -- >> i don't know why your experts are that say it was okay. >> why do you believe him now. >> i have to believe the policy thatev sessions stood and said today what we are going to do. in six months. -- and obama didn't say stay forever. he picked two years. because we have a rule of law and we have a american jobs -- >> why does is it have to be stand alone? maybe we should support the d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> why on earth doesn't the president tell us what --
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reaction to the eliminate of daca. president clinton saying quote, today's decision by the white house to term ate daca and that is effectually what they attempt to do, will crush the dreams and weaken. most of all, the statement reads it is wrong because it is cruel to send these young people to places many of them have never lived and do not know. sharp reaction across the country, including in downtown los angeles. today california attorney general promised legal action to california to challenge the president's decision. joining us now is former mayor antonio villa riggo ossa. and you say this is a test of the nation's view values. how do you propose protecting the d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> well i think the attorney general is correct and the governor supports him. and that we should take a page
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out of texas book and use the tenth amendment and test this new effort on the part of the trump administration to end the daca program. i think we need to stand up for the proposition that if you want to -- you need a court order, a specific court order for an individual if you want to go into a courthouse or a hospital, or a school, or another places, that we've seen increasingly i.c.e. agents enter, sweeping in a way that most of us find objectionable and unacceptable. and it is nun inflection point for us for who wur at a nation. are as mother liberty said, you bring your tired and poor and huddled masses or just send 800,000 people to a million kids because not everybody applied for daca, back to countries they've never been to. they don't know except as children. >> what do you say to those who
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agree with president trump and the attorney general that today's acs restores responsibility and rule of law to immigration. is that we're a nation of laws and there have to be laws on this and president obama overstepped. >> great question. we are a nation of laws and we have to fix this broken immigration system an the congress should fix it and there are congress members in c california has that has not supported it and addressing the daca kids and doing anything with respect to giving people a path way to citizenship, and fixing this broken problem. so look, the law is not exactly clear on the issue. i heard people earlier today saying that the president -- obama didn't have the authority to do it and some courts said he
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did but congress has the ability to make that decision and to change the law and make sure to protect these daca kids and i hope this he do -- they i hope they do this. and those in this country who believe we shouldn't have a muslim ban or believe the transgender patriots ought to be able to serve in the military and these daca kids who are graduating from high school and college contributing no the economy ought to be able to participate in this great nation. that is who we are. that's who we've always held ourselves out to be. >> when you hear the president say he has love for the d.r.e.a.m.ers and something has to be done in congress because the track record is not good. >> it is clear by his actions that he doesn't have love for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. and it is also clear that over the decade as some of your earlier participants stated, neither party has real addressed
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this this issue. i thi i think -- we need to stop screaming and work together across partisan lines an figure this out. and fix it. there are seven people in the congress as i said that who have the supported it in the past. and two of them have indicated they will. and every single member of congress representing this state of california which overwhelmingly supports the d.r.e.a.m.ers. as you know, 25 -- more than 25% of the d.r.e.a.m.ers are living in california. l.a. is the epicenter. yet we are the sixth largest economy and l.a. is the seventh largest and many of the people here are undocumented. they are working and in ag, in construction, in the service and hospitality industries. and we ought to acknowledge that and bring them in. >> i appreciate it. thank you very much. >> it is auld good to be on your show. back with the panel. what do you say to those who say this is bad for jobs, for american citis and even though unemployment is extremely low
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right now. >> that is what i would say. the president is bragging that unemployment is at a 16 year low so it is hard to make that case and to make that argument. but i would also say, that these young people as he points out, that just as americans, they don't have papers and brought here through no fault of their own and played by the rules. to be eligible to be a d.r.e.a.m.er, have to have no criminal record and a completely clean record and going into jobs, they are going into college and going into the military, and this is something that i think that we ought to encourage. it doesn't come at the loss of someone else. >> they are paying taxes. >> they are paying taxes. >> they are not getting any benefits. >> and matt said there is no right oren titlement but there is a responsibility from america to take these young responsible who are contributing and honor their status. >> just have a human stand point are you sympathetic. >> there is a moral -- and many of us belong to churches and
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there is a moral component to caring about people and there is american citizens. paul, you are not telling the truthful you look at the camera and don't tell the truth. >> no, i didn't. >> they are law breakers. >> they did not. >> listen, there is plenty. >> what is is that act. what is is that act of crossing the border without papers. i'm asking you a question. it is not a criminal offense. >> [ inaudible ] fa. >> we voted in election and you lost your team lost. hold on. your team lost. >> my team won by 3 million votes. >> the team that won that said let's put americans first. we the people. if the congress wants to change the laws, i'm for changing birth right citizenship. there is no other country in the world that said come to our country and have a baby and that babe babesy is a a -- is a i citizen. >> wow. >> and you know what the person meme want, they want less of the people like you who put
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americans last. >> really. thank you for that. >> and they want people that will put americans first. >> per your law, would you not be an american citizen today. [ multiple speakers ] >> that is a policy. >> this is a country, yes, we are a country of laws. >> let her respond. >> two things. guess what. the rule of law is made to serve society. not the other way around. so when societies eve evolve and the they are no longer serving society. >> [ inaudible ]. >> hang on. i'm not finished. that is why we have lawmakers an that is why right now today our immigration laws do not serve us well. which is why we have been trying to change it. yes, it is difficult. but this is the reality. secondly, the reality on jobs and the economy. these are d.r.e.a.m.ers contribute almost half a trillion dollars a decade to our economy. >> they take out too. >> no, they don't. >> the jobs that they -- >> of course they take out.
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>> the jobs that they take are as people who wash dishes, they babysit, they work at snow cone stands, they are minimum wagons and they want to go to school to be able to continue to contribute to this great society. this is a society based on immigrant labor and commitment to work ethic and it is interesting that the president is talking about being compassion the and they are sending out talking points to capitol hill saying that these folks need to prepare for departure from the united states. >> well, and when you talk about what trump promised during the campaign, this is a classic example of the sort of split personality of trump and his administration and his campaign. during the campaign, when he was reading off the teleprompter, he did say this is an illegal amnesty that president obama did and at the same time in interviews said i had feel and have heart for the d.r.e.a.m.ers and if it was so clear that it
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was an unconstitutional action, he could have sat down there on the day one and gotten rid tv and instead his administration issued 200,000 new permits for daca. and so this is always something that he has wanted to have it both ways on and the idea that this is -- this is a clear-cut promise, that his base voted for when they elect the him, i don't think it was very clear. it was a case instead of people hearing what they wanted to hear when they spoke. even with the trump base, not a popular thing to do. . even the majority who elected trump did not want to send the d.r.e.a.m.ers home and the politics tricky and different from the wall which was a clear signature campaign promise. >> when we come back, trading threats with north korea and including details on latest missile test and more on hurricane irma saidi-- heading way. rful, and full of nutrients.
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our other big news, north korea state media said this weekend's nuclear test reflects the will of north korea to blow up the u.s. main land. south korea intelligence spotting north koreans moving a ballistic missile while u.s. ore officials say they have options if it came to it. i asked clapper if they shoulden ga gage in talks and here is his answer. >> what they are most concerned with is face and leverage and recognition of their status as a nuke powerment they want to be seen as part of the club. and i think we kind of have to
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accept that, maybe a longer term goal is denuclearization but as a going in proposition, then somewhat based on my own experience, that is a nonstarter. they are at not appoint going to willingly griff up their nuclear weapons as price for negotiation. >> back now with the panel. gordon chang and also gordon, do you agrees with a nonstarter. >> if we putin sentives that they haven't seen before, maybe they will change their mind. everyone says that chinese will never pressure the north koreans and the north koreans will never give up their nukes but that is true but unless the united states used its leverage, we could change that. and we could undermine the chinese economy by going against their banks which have been money laundering and that puts pressure on beijing. beijing has overwhelming leverage over the north koreans
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and if we start a chain of events, it would actually effect not only china's decisions but north korea. >> you are talking about threatening to destroy the chinese economy? >> not to destroy the economy. but to enforce u.s. law. so for instance, bank of china, big four bank has been named in the u.n. 2016 report for money laundering. that is a violation of u.s. law. so what we could do it declare it to be a primary money laundering concern and it could no longer have access to dollars and that could cripple them and change the political system. the chinese know this. we don't want to do that but we do want to protect the american people and all trump would have to do is say to the chinese he's willing to do these things and i think would we see baton roueij
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cooperative. >> and do you think that -- >> i've long said the two options with north korea. war or china. and i think that the president sort of rattling the sapors in a way that i find disconcerting. but he has talked about china. a little extreme. he said maybe we should cut off all trade with anybody who does business with north korea. which would be china. we're their biggest customer. we're their third biggest customer. the global economy would be damaged if the u.s. and china stopped trading entirely. but if you talked to those folks. have you told them what we could do through the financial system sh that is targeting. >> and he won't term ate all of our trade with china. >> there would be no trump merchandise coming in. >> and mnuchin said he would draft a sanctions package and give the president to, for instance, restrict trade for
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countries that endanger u.s. national security. that is an enormously power club. these are types of things we haven't done. if we want a solution, we'll have to consider things that we would not be part of the national conversation a couple of months ago. because if we continue to do the things that we have done in the past, we're not going to get effective results. >> but to you, bottom line it is unacceptable to have a nuclear n north korea. >> i this so. and this is where i disagree with clapper. the north koreans want more than just deterrence. if they only want that, we could let them go. they sell this to iran and north korea have linked to terrorist groups so if we are happy with hezbollah having a bomb, but if we are not, we have to do something about. this we pay 2 to $3 billion a year with their cooperation and we have an unstable situation on
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the korean peninsula and one rich and one more and the people will put up with that if the kim regime aso many plishs to taking over south korea. >> and clapper said if north korea didn't feel as much under threat from south korea, and felt more accepted, that long-term their willingness may be to denuclearize might increase. and perhaps even less -- less involved in international terror or what have you. >> perhaps. be we have to member that the north korea nuclear program goes back to at least the middle of the 1960s. and this is has nothing to do with the u.s. this is really the world's most militaryistic regime. they have a history of using violent to upset status quo they find to be unacceptable. we know the things they have done but if they have the world's thermo nuclear weapons -- >> do you think it is a rational actor as a not a rogue state but making decisions based on for
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kim jong-un and staying in power, but rational decisions in. >> absolutely rational. they have i different set of incentives. they look at the world differently. and when you put that together, i think that kim jong-un is acting very well. and over the course of decades, they usually get the better of us in this these con frontation. s so we're the most powerful nation and they still beat us up. that is a result of their being rational. >> hum. we have to take a quick break. we'll have more when we come back and talk more politics including what hill south carolina saying about bernie sanders. did he pave the way for the crooked hillary. and the latest on hurricane irma, a category five heading this way. minds me of how geico s been saving people money for over 75 years. hey, big guy! come on in! let me guess your weight! win a prize! sure, why not. 12 ounces!
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almost a year after the 2016 presidential election, hillary clinton is taking on bernie sanders. the book comes out next week and she writes he he had to resort to innuendo and soo ev-- some o his supporters took to that -- to tacking me online. and [ inaudible ] for the crooked hillary came and writes about sanders quote, he isn't a democrat, that not a smear that
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is what he said. he didn't get into the race to make sure a democrat won he got into disrupt the democratic party. paul what do you make of this that she is pointing the finger of the bernie sanders for painting wait for crooked hillary. >> in that respect. it is a multi hundred page book. she did say this is completely on me. this loss is her responsibility. and it gets really important for her supporters. and on this, the old rap was to carefully and calculating. now the new rap is she's too blunt and she's attacking bernie sanders. his attacks hurt. there is no doubt. but then again he was her opponent and his job to attack her. so i actually thought it it was a clean primary. i didn't like some of the things he said. because i love hillary. >> but do you think his attacks caused lasting damage. >> i think that she has a point in that the things that he said were lasting because it is a
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true what she said, it is not a democrat. but he did bring a lot of people into the fray. and into the the process, which is good. but he also i think gave the ability to not vote for a democrat and not support here. and when you have the general election opponent which was at this opponent trump or we know at this point that hes with going to be the nominee, he was quoting bernie sanders. he was quoting bernie using his words against hillary. >> in front of the -- >> so he absolutely has a point that he did cause lasting damage. >> but she got a general election opponent who was some what stylistically like bernie sanders. and in the sense that he's a populous nationalist if she was running against maco rubio it might have been different. >> she would have won. >> she could have gotten bernie behind her and a typical they want to take away social
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security and instead she got this guy who could hit her from the populous left in a sense. >> and about the i way, her point about the burn ybro bros s true. and in that way, her point about lasting damage to the party and in that there were people who didn't vote for trump but didn't vote for her, i think could be put on his lap. >> but doesn't this preview that -- the upcoming 2020 election is cuomo versus warren or somebody. there is the same fight brewing and as long as hillary is out there drawing this contrast it will say to the democrat party who are you and that is not my -- >> it is very early. >> there is a split in the democratic party but this is about the individual flaws of hillary clinton as a candidate. she's absolutely right that caused lasting damage but what bernie sanders and his came did was they saw her vulnerabilities and they took advantage of them. that is what you do in politics. those vulnerabilities were part of who she was and how people
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perceived her. and so what you do as a candidate is you see the negatives that people perceive in your opponent and you hammer on them and the idea that somehow isn't fair, i would love to hear what the -- what the barack obama 2008 campaign would have to say about it not being fair or beat up on something in a primary. >> she didn't use that word. i agree with everything except the last sentence. politics ain't bean bag. this is a completely clean primary if you ask me. and so i have no problem with bernie sanders. >> but what i've been hearing from the clinton people that is a blind spot is the idea that someone else made people not like hillary. people didn't like hillary clinton and it was a pre-existing condition for her. and for whatever reason it was, that is something that her opponents took advantage of, but it is not something -- >> it is not unfair. she said that it caused lasting damage. but by the way did you see -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> he called him a cancer on
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conservatism. >> and we are talking about hillary clinton. >> and if we take this excerpt and granted it is an excerpt and it is probably going to be a big book and all of that. but if you take this excerpt, this is kind of part and parcel of the problem with hillary. it looks like somebody who doesn't -- >> what? >> who isn't willing to accept that they are responsible for dish. >> [ multiple speakers ] >> everybody said i know it is my fault. but if it wasn't for bernie sanders. >> it would be a short book. >> she didn't -- she didn't only just do it in the book. she has said it ever since the loss happened. but i do think there is a very legitimate frustration and you see it in the excerpt and you probably see it more in the book. in that she couldn't go all out on bernie sanders. way that he went all out on her. >> did he go all out on her. i remember in one of the debates him saying i don't care about -- you and there is another one where she said president obama won't let me. that is passing the buck. >> no. >> it is one of the issues that
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she talked about. she accepted many people voted for bernie sanders that called themselves democrat. >> is he thaed. he's not that today. >> and next puerto rico and t caribbean and florida and we'll hear from the governor of puerto rico about how they are getting ready ahead. re for this day... and i'm still not ready. the reason i'm telling you this is that there will be moments in your life that... you'll never be ready for. your little girl getting married being one of them. ♪ ♪ kevin, meet yourkeviner.
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the latest on hurricane irma now, it is one of the strongest in the atlantic. it's hit the caribbean, could hit florida after that. our tom sater is live in the weather center. he's been tracking this very carefully. any updates in the forecast? >> we've got another hour, anderson, until we have the next advisory from the hurricane center. i can update you with new hurricane warnings, but right now the reason we're dealing with a storm of this size and magnitude is the sbirmt environ just pristine for this. in the last month and two months, we had the saharan desert in africa that kept this
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from developing. right now it's 21 islands in diameter. it's going to swallow some of the islands such as anguila. the thousands and thousands that live here can't just evacuate. they have to hunker down in some structure and hold out. puerto rico evacuating with some state of emergency. we've got a hurricane warning now for the northern coast of the dominican republic because as the system turns counterclock wise, it's going to throw those feeder bands, it's going to throw in the storm surge and the destructive winds. if you're just joining anderson, this is jose. it will most likely become a hurricane in the next 24 hours or so. it will not follow irma and head to the north, thank goodness, a fish storm. it's a catastrophic hurricane, category 4 or 5. right now irma is much stronger than harvey when it made
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landfall in devastating rockport in texas. with harvey we didn't have a steering current. let's look at steering current right now. you'll see high pressure kind of keep anderson to the south. this little trough in the eastern u.s., i wish it was hanging around. that's our one hope to get it off the eastern seaboard. we're going to miss out on that. here comes another. this will save landfall from texas and louisiana but move tutuit up, of course, into florida. what coast we're not sure yet. >> what could change this to where it ends up? >> the biggest question is, anderson, many people want to know what's going to happen in their backyard several days from now. any time you're forecasting from this far out, there will be some variati variation. even if you're forecasting rain in your neighborhood. this is not until saturday afternoon when we watch it maybe interacting with cuba and then we have to watch it where it turns. there is a smaller window that i
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think it could slide off into the carolinas, but that window is shutting quickly. as it goes out further in time, there is some variation. as we get closer, those models in agreement will close on us and we'll have a better idea. i want to make sure everybody understands. this doesn't mean a landfall in miami right now, but we'll have to watch this day in and day out. it is a game with the models but they've been in great agreement with the environment, so you have to lean into that. >> joining me right now is the governor of puerto rico. governor, thank you for being with us. there is a state of emergency. i know the national guard has been activated. do you feel like puerto rico is ready? >> well, you know, anderson, in this type of event, category 5, 185-mile-an-hour sustained winds, it's hard to be ready, but we certainly are prepared. we've been working, this administration, to make sure we have all the porticos ready.
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we enacted the first portico before irma hits landfall, so we're confident we've done everything on our part now. main focus these last three or four hours have been making sure people are safe, they're in their homes or in shelters should their infrastructure be weak. >> what is the shelter situation in puerto rico? >> right, we've identified 460 shelters. we've worked with the municipalities to make sure citizens are aware. this afternoon we started a deployment strategy, emergency deployment strategy, particularly for those areas that could feel severe flooding and be hampered due to a weak infrastructure. we started moving people, but our main focus is for people to be safe, so whether they're at their homes or at the shelters,
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we are hoping for the storm to maybe skid off northeast of puerto rico, but we're also preparing for the eventuality where a category 5 hurricane, the likes of which have never been seen in puerto rico, would actually do landfall. >> i'm wondering just in terms of storms puerto rico has been hit by in the past, how does this potentially compare? >> right. well, it's still going to be a very devastating storm. you know, they are projecting right now that it will pass 30 miles north off the northeast of puerto rico. still we're talking about a hurricane that's about 120 miles wind. we would still sustain, particularly in the northern part, hurricane wind levels of a category 1 or 2. but, anderson, should the model
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shift slightly lower as it has done so in the past hour, then this could mean that the full category 5 effects of this storm would hit the island. those, of course, would be devastating. our focus is having people safe. >> governor, i wish you and all the people in puerto rico the best. thank you very much. we'll continue to check in with you in the days ahead. let's go back to tom sater. tom, just in terms of where irma is, it could be just north of the island? >> i think we're watching, really, a wednesday event for the northern part of the island. this is where we're going to have significant storm surge for puerto rico. remember, we only have is a little bit of time. i think the eye, anderson, is going to move over to the island of barbuda probably at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning. if it moves to anguila, that
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would be early morning. with as strong as it is now, the waters are even warmer when you get closer to cuba and the u.s., so that's just fuel for the system to continue to be a monster strength. again, major category 4, maybe 5. >> tom sater, appreciate it. we'll be right back. s, 83% try to eat healthy, yet up to 90% fall short on getting key nutrients. let's do more. one-a-day men's. complete with key nutrients we may need, plus heart health support with b vitamins. one-a-day men's. (woman) there's a moment of truth.etes, and now with victoza®, a better moment of proof. victoza® lowers my a1c and blood sugar better than the leading branded pill, which didn't get me to my goal. lowers my a1c better than the leading branded injectable. the one i used to take. victoza® lowers blood sugar in three ways. and while it isn't for weight loss, victoza® may help you lose some weight. non-insulin victoza® comes in a pen
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that's it for us. thanks for watching. time to hand it over to don lemon. "cnn tonight" starts now. this is our breaking news. look at that. a monster storm taking aim at the u.s. as another political storm rocks the white house. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. florida bracing for what could be the second catastrophic storm to smash into the u.s. mainland in less than two weeks. this one even bigger than the last one, hurricane harvey. hu