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this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news tonight, hurricane irma one of the strongest storms ever recorded in the atlantic, passing north of puerto rico tonight after smashing through the caribbean and killing at least three. the storm now taking aim at florida. i want to get right to it now. cnn's tom sater is in the weather center for us. tom, hello to you. category 5 hurricane irma could affect up to 37 million people, and it's being described as once in a generation, a once in a generation hurricane. >> right. >> if it comes ashore. where is it now and where is it heading? >> well, the newest advisory just has been issued by the national hurricane center. and i'm really speechless here, because we're now at hour 39, don, that this has been containing the strength of a category 5. and we have been taught for years that hurricanes just cannot sustain this kind of magnitude and the strength hour
after hour after hour. but yet here it is. we're going into hour 40 here. the eye continues to be well defined. it's been undergoing restructuring, and it looks like we've got good news without a major landfall just yet, until we start to see some really big storm surge in the turks and caicos. the radar pulling away from san juan, really sparing the northern coast. 4 or 5-foot storm surge. most of the heavy rain bands stayed offshore because it was undergoing what we call an eye wall replacement cycle, it's like reorganizing itself. typically they lose a little bit of strength. i thought for sure in this 11:00 hour, maybe it would drop a little bit in the wind category, but it has not. the track has not changed much, although from last night at this time, it moved about 16 miles eastward, and maybe another 20 to 30 more have been added on. again, we still have a cone of uncertainty that does head off on to the west coast of florida. but anyone from the keys all the way up toward wilmington need to be aware of this. if you are planning your
evacuation, this is when tropical storm winds move into your area. you don't want to wait until sunday or even saturday. think two days ahead, don. >> what about the wind and the storm surge? what's expected? >> well, if you take a look at the path, and when we talk about these models, which are still a good agreement, we're going to be looking at dangerous winds pretty much around the eye and extending outward. they're going to fan into the bahamas. they're going to be felt down in parts of the dominican republic and haiti. but when we take a look at what those winds are going to do, this reminds me of matthew last year. this system just stayed off the coast by about 30 miles. and that's the difference, don, between light and moderate damage or catastrophic damage. although we saw a significant damage along the east coast of florida with a-1a destroyed, significant flooding in the carolinas. that was a big problem. well lost scores of people. in fact over 20 i believe in the carolinas. but right now we're looking at a 15 to 20-foot storm surge, turks and caicos and other parts of
the bahama islands. that's significant. much higher than they had in parts of puerto rico that will be moving in toward the southeastern u.s. in a couple of day. >> tom sater at the watch. thank you very much. we appreciate that. we'll check back this with tom if need be. i want to get to cnn's layla santiago. she is live for news san juan right now. leyla, hello to you. you're in san juan for us. what are you experiencing since we spoke last hour? >> things just continue to calm down here on the northern coast of puerto rico, don. and so a lot of people here feeling lucky. i actually spoke to a gentleman from fema who was saying, yeah, we sort of dodged it on this one. but still some problems that will come as a result. is a lot of fallen trees will need to be taken care of. power outages that will be out. and that will be a big one, don, because it's not just for a few days. we're talking about possibly weeks or months.
and that's according to authorities for some people to get that power back. and then, of course, there could be the flooding that comes as a result of this. already on the eastern part of the island, they are talking about the damage that this has caused, and rescue crews that had to go in to get dozens of people to save them, really, from flooding in homes as well as cars. and then there is something ellsworth mentioning. the federal government, the u.s. federal government, because as you remember, this is u.s. territory, has declared not only a state of emergency, but a health care emergency. so they'll be getting more resources to help out on that end as well. don? >> thank you, leyla santiago. i want to get to miguel marquez now. miguel is live for us in miami. as we watch this barrel towards florida there, miami-dade county has issued mandatory evacuations for its coastal cities.
so talk to me about what is going on, the gas shortages, the water. what's up? >> yeah, you can measure the concern that people have by those shortages. water in particular and gas also. water, whether we went into a walgreens or a target or a public supermarket, there was just no water to be had. the stores do say they're get mortgage in the next day or two. walmart in particular is drawing from distribution centers as far away as nevada to get water to this place. 1300 semitrucks they say are coming in. this is a gas station that has been very, very busy all day long. in fact, i can see another gas tanker getting ready to come in. the lines for this gas station have stayed consistent throughout the day. it was about two hours at the longest. it's about one hour right now. the other thingy show you, we're on u.s. 1. the traffic on that far side, that's coming from the south going north, as this storm gets closer. clearly more and more people will start to evacuate.
>> all right. >> miguel, thank you very much. i want to bring in now the mayor, mayor paul levine of miami beach. they for coming on again. we spoke last night. mandatory evacuations starting tomorrow at noon. how are you making sure everyone gets out, particularly seniors? >> actually, for the last couple of days since yesterday, i've been telling the people of miami beach, especially the residents and the visitor, time to leave. get out before the mandatory evacuation order comes. and a lot of them have been listening. we've been trying to reduce the flow as much as possible. but starting tomorrow, we're going to be even that much more aggressive. people who are listening to this broadcast that are on miami beach, whether you're a resident or a visitor, you need to get out. you need to be safe. you need to get out of miami beach. this is a nuclear hurricane. it looks like the path it's on is very, very scary. and it's very, very serious. so we're getting that message out as aggressively as possible. >> what about tourists and other people who may not have cars? how do they get out? what is your advice to them?
>> well, a couple things. first of all we issued a letter yesterday to all the tourists before it was mandatory and said please leave. now we urge you to leave miami beach. what we're going to be doing with the county and dade county is we'll be having buss that will be picking people up, bringing them to drop-off areas and bringing them to the shelters. we'll also have our trolley system doing the same thing. we have multiple types of shelters in dade county. shelters for people that have pet, people that have special needs, for seniors. so we're working with the county very aggressively to coordinate this evacuation program. >> so i want to be clear here there are no hurricane shelters in miami beach? people need to move elsewhere? >> there are no shelters on miami beach, on our barrier islands, there are not. so we need them to leave miami beach, and they'll be going to shelters in dade county, which has multiple shelter, depending on what the specific needs of that person may be. >> okay. we're seeing long lines for gas, for water. and i'm wondering if there are enough supplies. well also saw a storm chaser out
i think he was somewhere in miami. gas station closed. >> no, it's happening everywhere. it's happening all across the state. i understand the governor is working with the fuel company to bring in more fuel. but when it comes to water, i've been saying over and over again and we've been saying to residents, listen, the good old-fashioned faucet is fantastic. the water is fresh. it's good. you can fill up bottles, jugs, whatever you have. use the faucet and you'll get all the water you want right now. >> are you concerned about the roads being congested? have people heeded the warning and tourists as well so far? >> well, we know there will be traffic. we know there will be congestion. and that's okay. because we want the people to vacate miami beach. we will be working with our police, our fire department to make sure it's as orderly a transition as possible to get people off miami beach. but once again, we're going to use public transportation to reduce the amount of cars. we have opened up all our garages in the city free for residents to put their cars, to protect them during this storm.
because we could expect a storm surge and some serious flooding. >> let me ask you this. juning from the scope and the size of this thing and the power, the intensity, is this going to be another hurricane andrew? do you fear that? that was deadly hurricane 5 that hit florida in 1992. >> i certainly hope not. and i hope that we are as prepared as possible and as a county. but once again, your never know. at a certain point, preparations give way to prayer. we're hoping for best. but planning for worst. >> appreciate that. thank you. >> thank you. when we come back, with the storm bearing down on florida right now, hospitals and nursing homes are putting their emergency plans into effect. we're going to speak to officials from some of the hospitals to see how they are preparing. ♪ whoa that's amazing...
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in florida bracing for the possible impact from a monster storm, hurricane irma. cnn's kyung lah is live for news miami. kyung, hello to you tonight. mandatory evacuations have been issued for miami-dade county. tell us what you have seen today. >> we traveled slightly south of miami, don, to homestead, florida. you can see that i'm right in front of a mobile home park. the reason we came here is because this particular park, nearly every single part of it was completely levelled in hurricane andrew. so when we came down here, we met edward collins. now he has packed everything he owns, he completely emptied out his mobile home, stuffed it in his car, and he says he is, quote, beyond scared. he is driving north. he is going to get out of the state of florida. he shedding to family in virginia. but at the same time, don, we did dive across the street ten minutes away, and we met a mom who has two children, a 15-month-old and 4-month-old. she says she has water, fuel, food.
she wants the ride it out. she thinks that she'll be fine. we are hearing many different types of stories even as irma barrels closer, and this area is under a mandatory evacuation. >> well, the question is maybe, okay, let's say she rides it out. but what the days after when people are trying to get supplies? maybe there is no electricity and there is no water. >> you know, there is a floridian spirit, and i've seen it heard and talked about throughout the day as we've gone and seen people sandbagging and people boarding up. they have a certain resiliency. and to some like edward collins who packed up and left, he said they're being a bit tone deaf to what we're trying to tell you on the news. yes, that is a definite question. what happen toes her and her two kids. when there are floodwater, when you can't drive anywhere, when you can't escape because it's too late that is going to be a big problem if she does decide to stay, and this hurricane is as bad and as devastating to homestead, florida, as the models are showing.
>> well, good luck. and be safe, kyung. thank you very much. we'll see you soon. one of the biggest worries in florida tonight of course taking care of people who need special help. i want to bring in you wayne bracken, the chief operating officer of baptist health south florida. wayne, i appreciate you coming on. you oversee eight hospitals in south florida. how are you handling the needs and the plans for your critical care patients? >> thank you, don. we have eight hospitals from miami down through the keys and about 50 outpatient centers and doctors offices. we are currently on normal operations obviously things are going to change raptly. but that's how things stand as of new. >> mercy evacuating patients tonight. will you you've take some of the patients in? >> mercy hospital is relatively near our facilities in miami. so we have started to receive patients from there at our
tertiary hospitals. baptist hospital and south miami, probably take some into doctors hospital in coral gables as well. >> tell us about your plans. when do things start to ramp up for you? >> things have been, in the keys in particular the last couple of days obviously have been very tense and difficult. we have two hospitals in the florida keys. the furthest south is in marathon, fisherman's hospital, which is currently open. we moved the last patients out of there this morning. emergency department however is still open. we intend to have it open throughout the night. we're going to close it first thing in the morning about 7:00 a.m. the staff will evacuate at this point. we'll move some of them up to mariners hospital in key largo. key largo hospital will be open until about p.m. we will -- we moved the last two
patients out this evening up to miami. and the staff will maintain the ed there about 7:00 p.m. tomorrow night. and then they'll be evacuated out. >> wayne, you know these things happen in phases, right? what do hospitals in south florida, what do they learn? my question, though, what do you do after this storm? it happens in phases. what comes after the storm? are you prepared for that? >> well, you're 100% right. one of the things that we have a little bit of experience with or r these big storms. i was the ceo of homestead hospital in hurricane andrew. a lot of our staff were veterans of that storm. so dealing with the aftermath is absolutely something that most people are not prepared for. the economy takes a hit. housing stock takes a hit. it does become difficult to
operate. but i think we're in -- we're in as good a shape as you can be in facing down a monster storm over a big geography like this. >> wayne brackin, thank you. best of luck. we'll check back, okay? >> thank you, don. >> of course, florida is home to many senior citizens. i want to bring in linda chamberlin, owner of easy living. linda, thank you. i understand you own a home care assisted living company for the elderly. how are you preparing tonight? >> well, we've been working the last two days contacting each of our clients as well as their family members to make sure they have a plan in place. evacuation if at all possible. we have had some families fly in. and take their families back up north with them. or those clients that are unable to evacuate -- well, not so much unable to evacuate, but prefer not to evacuate, we're making sure that they are registered with special needs shelters and helping them pack their bags,
get their medications. and when we say pack their bags you have to remember, when you go to a special needs shelter, there is no bedding included. you would need to bring your snacks. you would need to bring your medications. and if you do have any particular things like oxygen needs, you need to bring all the apparatuses that go along with it even though oxygen will be provided at the special shelter. >> when you hear people say don't want to leave, i'm surprised. does that surprise you? >> no. you know, it's the same battle that families go through all the time when perhaps they feel like mom or dad aren't safe at home. and assisted would be the right choice. and they say no, i think i'll just stay at home for now. so we still hear that even with the threat of this storm. the other thing many of our clients are also living in assisted lives or living in
nursing homes. and we have reached out to all of our families to make sure they understand where their loved one may be evacuated to if case the facility they're in is in a nonevacuation zone. one of the side effects of katrina was not being able to find their loved ones because they had been evacuated. and we want to make sure that doesn't happen to any of the families that we work with. >> we were talking a little bit before, before we came out of the commercial break you. said this one feels different. >> you know, it feels different because it's so big. and even if we do not get that direct hit on the west coast of florida where we're located, we will feel side effects from it. we're going to be affected by wind. i does not take much rain for us to have flooding, which means what ever street you're on you may or may not be able to get
out. the best thing is if you are going to stay at home and you're fragile or have issues, you need to make sure you have registered with a special needs shelter because the firefighters will come to your home and will check in on you. and again, encourage you to relocate to safety. >> linda chamberlain down in tampa, thank you. good luck. >> thank you. >> when we come back, hurricane irma slamming into puerto rico, devastating some neighborhoods. and we're going to speak to people on the ground sheltering through the storm there. s'cuse me. mind if i sit here? not if you want your phone to work. let me guess, can't livestream your lobster roll. and my mobile pay isn't connecting and i just got an unlimited plan. right plan, wrong network. you see, verizon has america's largest, most reliable 4g lte network and now unlimited plans start at $40 per line, you know what i'm saying? oh, this is your seat.
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our breaking news tonight. hurricane irma taking aim at florida after slamming through the caribbean. 37 million people could be affected. i want to bring you now tom sater in the weather center. tom, welcome back. we got a forecast just a little while ago, category 5 irma. as i said, up to 37 million people could be affected by this. a once in a generation event. do we know when it's going to come ashore and where it's
heading and when it's going to come? >> i think we need, don, maybe one or two more days to really definitively nail this. but really, i'm pretty much amazed at how the models have been handling this. from last friday we had an idea where the system is going and the models have been in extraordinary agreement you. uhave to recall that the u.s. went through 12 years of a drought without a major hurricane making landfall. 12 years. and a major hurricane is 3, 4, and 5. and then we had harvey. that was enough for a generation alone. this system seems to be a lot faster. remember, harvey's problem was after it made landfall, you could outwalk it. at least this is moving at 16. it's not about a big rainmaker, it's about winds with this system and storm surges as it approaches parts of the southeastern u.s. it's pulling away from san juan. great news for puerto rico. they got some rain, got a little storm surge. but most of the activity and the energy stays offshore by about 50 miles. now the difference in the last
24 hours had a shift of about 60 miles and maybe another 20 more. it's trending eastward, which is good news for those, of course, that are still wondering, could this get into the gulf of mexico. and it could. but that window is shutting a little bit. the problem is now from around miami toward wilmington, this is the zone of big-time problems ahead. but let's not forget about, of course, evacuations. this map here, don, pretty much shows everybody in the color coded area where the tropical storm-force winds will be by that day. you do not want the wait to evacuate from miami on sunday because you'll be traveling through sunday with tropical storm-force winds. think two days in advance. so, again, we don't have much time. but again, if you're going to be evacuating, you should do it on friday so you can beat those winds. the massive wind field with this alone, don, would swallow all of florida with tropical storm-force winds from border to border, coast-to-coast, you name it. the system trending to the east. but we need another day or two to definitively say hey, is this
system going to be make lawful in miami or is it going to hug just along the coast like matthew did last year and plow into the carolinas? >> tom sater, appreciate it. the governor of puerto rico reporting significant damage from hurricane irma. joining me is deborah adams, a houston resident vacationing in puerto rico. my goodness, deborah, what timing. what was the storm like and where are you? deborah, you there? >> yes, i'm here. i'm actually at the marriott hotel. we were moved down from the ninth floor to the fourth floor earlier today. and we were told to come down to the lobby around 6:00 so that they could have everybody that's in the hotel to be in one place. so it was about 60 guests at the hotel during the time of the storm. >> and what's it like now?
what are you seeing? >> well, actually, i have been outside. the streets are clear. there is no flooding. and the walgreens have reopened. >> were you worried about -- did you have to evacuate? did you try to do that? >> well, in the beginning of the storm, have i an ocean view from my room. and the current was really rough. and the palm trees were bending and the visibility was very, very low. so, yes, i was very concerned and worried. i kind of sit there and watched it until it was time to evacuate the room. >> so as i understand, you're from houston, and you weren't affected personally by harvey. but a family member staying at your house there, are they in touch -- are you in touch with them? are they concerned about you? >> they're very concerned because of the amount of damages that was received in the houston
area behind hurricane harvey. i have actually five displaced family. they're living in my home right now because harvey took theirs. >> and i also want to send another one of your friends lost everything in katrina? she is with you in puerto rico. how is she dealing with this? >> she is not doing good, because we really go through katrina. but she was very fearful being here through katrina, through harvey. now irma. but when we got the text that we will be leaving on friday on time, she is happy now. >> all right. thank you, very much. and be safe, deborah adams, a houston resident vacationing in puerto rico. appreciate it. as hurricane irma takes aim at florida, i want to bring in a florida keys resident and business owner. he joins me by the phone.
randy, hello to you. how you doing? >> i'm doing pretty good down here. we're just all prepared and kind of waiting the see if it's going to keep shifting to the east or if it's going to come right up u.s. 1. and the big decision is if you stay or you go. >> are you going the ride it out? what's your decision? do you know? >> well, we're ready to go. and our plan is to leave if we have to friday morning real early. but it's -- what you have to be concerned with, you don't want to leave an area like this and get caught up in it, say halfway up the state if it decides to come in up there. and sometimes the keys are the best place to be because it will veer to that east. and it ends up where we just have some heavy winds or maybe a category 1 at the worst. but a 4 or 5, a lot of my friends are leaving. but there is probably as many that plan on staying. >> wow. okay. so the deciding factor? again, what is that?
it just depends on the track it's going to take? you're just going to wake up in the morning and say i better get out of here? you're not worried that it's going to be too late? >> well, you know, all the preparation is done. everything is ready to go. and like i said, the track today veered more to the east. if tomorrow it goes to the east a little more and that eye is becoming off the coast of florida, you know, for us, we're better off just to stay put. and a lot of people are just keeping an eye on that. and, again, you hate to evacuate and get up to a safe they have you think you're going to be okay, and then something goes wrong, and it goes inland, say jacksonville or somewhere up there. and then you got a bigger problem. >> you were there for andrew, and you said you learned a lot from that. >> we learned just how devastating a category 5 storm can be. and what wind damage truly looks like when you see it firsthand. you know, the tvs and the
pictures really don't do justice until you've actually seen it in front of you. and it makes you think. and after you talk to enough people who say they would never go through it again, you got to take their experience and use it to your benefit in a situation like this. this is a bad storm. it's very powerful. and it can really do a lot of damage if we were to get a direct hit. >> i would feel better if you left, randy. i got to be honest with you. >> well, we're ready to go. it's certainly something if it's going to be. have i the whole family together. we're ready to go. >> how many you got? >> three daughter two, grandchildren and my wife. so we're all geared up and loaded up, if that's what we're going to do, we're ready to go. >> it will be a nice vacation. take them somewhere and get out of there. thank you, sir. i appreciate it. good luck to you. >> all right. >> when we come back, this monster storm taking aim at florida after slamming the caribbean. we're going to talk to some of the people helping to pick up the pieces on those devastated islands.
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joining me on the phone is ronald jackson, executive director of the caribbean disaster and emergency management agency. ronald, thank you so much for joining us. you're following the destruction in the caribbean from hurricane irma. what can you tell us about it? what's going on? >> good evening. well, essentially we started with reports coming out of barbuda. the island of anguilla. was spared much of the brunt of the storm because it was on the southern side. but barbuda, as you just reported was damaged to 95% of the buildings, and one casualty. it moved from there, and it also impact anguilla, the tiny island of anguilla, where we had one fatality as well and damage to a lot of critical facilities -- police station, hospitals, school facilities. three of four emergency
shelters, a home for the infirm and the aged, as well as a fire station. we expect as well significant damage to the housing stock in anguilla. the teams are now musters to go out early in the morning to do a more detailed assessment. and in the british virgin islands, we've also got significant report of damage to private businesses, supermarkets, critical facilities, operational facilities that would be coordinating in this particular emergency, utilities. so it is quite significant and expensive damage in several of the caribbean territories. on the english caribbean side, but also on the dutch and french caribbean side, the island of st. martin, significant flooding, significant infrastructure damage, similarities on st. bart adds well. all the islands that appeared in the eye of irma were badly,
badly impacted. and those who were south of the eye wall as well. >> wow. i just want to play, if we can cue up the storm hitting st. martin, i want to play it for ronald. in the interim, ronald, i'm going to ask you, you said 95% of the structures damaged. where -- if you're looking at this video, listen to. this listen to this, by the way. [ wind noises ] >> i mean, it sounds literally, a cliche like a freight train hitting. and that's what caused the damage. when you look at all this, where do you start when you look at this video? >> well, i think one of the first things you want to do is to look at the potential for moving the individuals off that small island until the main
island which is antigua. especially the fact that you see jose, hurricane jose tracking pretty much along a similar path of irma. the first thing is let's move those individuals we can move off the island. i think there is 30% of that totally damaged as well as the rest, severe impact. while a few may be able to be occupied with what is coming with the impact on facilities, infrastructure, utilities. that's where we would start. we would look at the necessary assessment in what can be repair and how long it will take to repair that. if it would be safer. >> i spoke to someone else who was from barbuda and toured some of the damage. he said people were tying themselves to their homes in order to stay safe.
did you hear stories like that? >> no. we didn't get that particular feedback from out of the islands. we would be monitoring more around the damage itself, the impact on whether there are people displaced and in shelters, rescue efforts, et cetera. but we didn't get any reports the person trying to tie themselves to home. i do know from some reports we got that there were conditions in some of the islands that seem to be forcing pressure of the doors into the homes and people trying to keep the water out and so forth. but nothing of the nature that you describe. >> unbelievable. we wish you the best. ronald jackson, executive director of the caribbean and disaster and emergency management agency. thank you so much, sir. >> you're welcome. >> i want to turn now to cnn's national security analyst, julia kayyem, a former homeland security official. these stories are horrific,
julia. >> yes. and as the previous speaker just said, there is two other hurricanes behind it. at least one that they're worried about is jose. i do want to put some good news on it. we're not getting the full numbers of fatalities. but at least the emergency manager there said there had only been one. we judge success by casualty and fatality rates, of course. and so these are numbers that reflect i think some of the planning that had gone on. when i look at what's about to happen to florida, it is the numberly be looking at as we did in houston to sort of judge success or failures, of course. how many lives with you protect. it's the most important thing. and it's the most important thing that should animate people in florida right now. i need to take this opportunity being on your show to remind people that florida, the local florida emergency management agencies are the ones who are going to know what's important and what's not for you to do.
so there is lots of screaming on the sidelines on twitter and facebook about everyone needing to evacuate, or you the rush limbaugh saying that people are overreacting. just listen to your local emergency management agencies. they know exactly what to anticipate and when to anticipate it. this hurricane, we don't quite yet know where it's going to hit. and so telling everyone to evacuate is not helpful in that regard. you don't want them to evacuate where the hurricane is actually going to hit. >> so listen, the hurricane could slam into the keys and miami. it could start at the coast, travel north until it hits georgia, south carolina, or north carolina. how much damage could irma cause? and is there any way to really be ready for an epic storm like this. >> so there is no way to be ready for a storm like this. we talk about and homeland security planning, we talk about minimizing the destruction. that's how you judge success. this would have been worse but for the planning that was in
place. so we have to anticipate major damage to infrastructure, houses, and other places like that. what you're trying to minute miesz -- minimize is the loss of life. emergency management are going to focus on those who are infirm, those who are unable to move, those with disabilities. that's the most important thing right now. but we don't know exactly the extent of the harm. but once again, then let's get through the next 48 to 72 hours. then the recovery then should focus of course on infrastructure and other issues like that. there has been a question about the capacity to deal with this because of houston. look, fema is divided into regions. fortunately, i guess to put that it way, this -- irma is hitting a different fema region than the houston. so we had region 4 and then region 6 was houston. so that's good news from the availability of resources. people will be more rested, you
know, because we do worry about emergency managers and first responders being sort of overwrought by the hurricanes after hurricanes coming on board. so that is some silver lining. and they've been prepared. they've been moving assets over the last 72 hours. the coast guard is ready as i heard earlier on the show. that's what we're doing. the government is prepositioning for what it doesn't know can happen. but i come on your show often, trying to minimize calm and trying to get people to be calm about various threats out there. this one is different. you know, maybe it's the worst or the second worst. i'll let meteorologists define that. but this one just given how big it is and where it's likely to hit and the capacity for harm during the hurricane and of course flooding and surges afterwards, people need to they can this very seriously. this isn't just hype right now. >> juliette kayyem, well spoken.
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facebook telling congress today it sold political ads during the 2016 political election to a russian troll farm looking to target american voters. michael nutter is here and cnn political commentator alice stewart joins us as well. good evening to both of you. so glad to have you on. michael, what do you make of this? is it more evidence of russian meddling in this election? >> don, it is. every other week it seems there is more of the drip, drip, drip of investigations, evidence, e-mails going back and forth, meetings that we didn't know about, attempts to contact high-ranking russian officials, including even the president putin. and so this is going to be a long-term investigation. there are a lot of components to
it. and at the end, i think it's not going to be a good outcome for the president and a number of people around him. >> well, it's still yet to be -- it's not finished. the investigation is still far from over. >> no, nowhere near finished. >> alice, donald trump jr. is set to take part in a staff level interview tomorrow. the russian investigation still hanging over this administration. what are you expecting? >> well, hopefully we get some answers here so we can begin the process of putting this behind us. look, it's important from the administration's standpoint if they say there is no there there, then let's get it all out there and put it behind us. i think with regard to the facebook ads, i think the important thing to note is we've known russia's meddled in the election. that's pretty clear. and we also know, adam schiff said today we know they used social media to also get their message out. i think it's good that facebook came forward with information that they have. the question is, knowing that they did use geo targeting to
specific key battleground states, did they have any help from a campaign? who possibly helped them to get this geo targeting information in order to get the information out? and that is the crux of this investigation i think with regard to facebook has to do. did they get help from one of the campaigns? if so, was it the donald trump campaign this we don't know that. that's part of the investigation. but if that's the case, then there is some serious problems. but at this point, still it's under investigation. and let's see where things lead. >> i want to put up this picture of michael. let's look at this picture. this is in the oval office today. what does he call him? crying chuck or something like that. you we can show every name in the book he's called chuck schumer, but apparently they were buddy-buddy today. blindsiding republicans, the president did. what did you make of this deal? >> well, i mean, great deal.
certainly from the leader -- the two leaders' perspective on the democratic side. >> this is over funding, raising the debt ceiling and funding money for hurricane relief. >> three very serious pieces of legislative business. getting money moving forward for the victims of harvey. continuing spending legislation as well as raising the debt ceiling. all very serious, all very important. the issue on -- that's policy. on the politics, the issue of course was timing. the republicans clearly wanting to push all of that activity past the elections. democrats weren't hearing it. >> all right, alice, real quick and i'm over time. what do you think of this for republicans in your party? >> well, clearly the president needs a significant legislative accomplishment. and to date he really doesn't have one. and he blames a lot of that on speaker ryan and mitch
mcconnell. so he says if they can't help me out, let's see if the democrats can. >> i've got to run. >> we'll see what happens. >> i'm surprised the next show hasn't wrung my neck because uwent over into their show. thank you so much both of you. authenticity that's our show for tonight. i'll see you back here tomorrow. good night. you seal it and send it back and then you wait for your results. it's that simple. ♪ whoa that's amazing... hey, i'm the internet! i know a bunch of people who would love that. the internet loves what you're doing... ...so build a better website in under an hour with... ...gocentral from godaddy. type in your idea. select from designs tailored just for you and publish your site with just a few clicks-even from your... ...mobile phone. the internet is waiting start for free today at godaddy. s'cuse me. mind if i sit here? not if you want your phone to work.
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a storm how powerful it has flattened an island, smashed the instruments trying to measure it, left meteorologists out of adjectives to describe it. irma barreling toward south florida where the miami mayor calls it a nuclear hurricane. and the president finally strikes a deal with the democrats. now trump's own party is shellshocked as it's forced to