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the hurricane lightly. this is something that florida hasn't seen in a very, very long time. >> if you can get out, do it. >> difficult days ahead. thanks for joining us, i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. "new day" starts now with the latest projections for hurricane irma. . we want to welcome our viewers around the united states and the world. it is thursday, september 7, 6:00 in new york. we begin with breaking news for you. at this hour the dominican republic is beginning to feel the rath of hurricane irma. rain and wind are picking up on that island. haiti, the bahamas and turks and caicos also in the line of fire. florida is bracing for a potential direct hit from this deadly category 5 storm. there are mandatory evacuations already under way in some parts of the state. landfall there is expected this weekend. >> there is still time. the hope is that shift to the east continues. we'll be watching it. right now irma is punishing
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puerto rico. it wasn't even a direct hit and still more than 1 million customers, no power. more than 56,000, no water. pictures tell the story. the monster storm literally the size of texas inleashing its fury on the tiny island of barbuda. 185-mile-per-hour winds. this is what they do. 95% of the buildings are damaged or destroyed according to the prime minister. he flew over and said it's barely habitable. remember, there's another storm on the way in that direction. at this point nine people are reported dead including an infant. the united nations says the hurricane could impact up to 37 million people. cnn has this storm covered like no other network can. let's begin with cnn's leyla santiago live in san juan, puerto rico. >> reporter: chris, we're certainly still feeling the wind and there's still a bit of rain
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coming down. the big problems on this island right now you mentioned, the power. more than a million without power, more than 56,000 without water and there is no word on when that will come back. officials saying this might not be a matter of days but rather weeks or months. we are expecting the governor to give up an update in about an hour. hopefully we'll get more details. in the meantime, emergency crews are already on the streets trying to get fallen trees off the roads and help the people who may be also dealing with flooding. i tell you what, people here considering themselves lucky when you think about the other islands in this caribbean. let's go to barbuda where it has certainly seen devastation. government officials there saying this damage is estimated to be at $100 million. 95% of the buildings seeing damage there. even worse, this has proven to be deadly. this claiming the life of an
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infant in barbuda. that is not the only life. in st. thomas we have six deaths reported there and dozens injured. obviously those numbers we are expecting to rise because this, chris, is not over yet for the caribbean. >> fair point. it is hard to look at those pictures and imagine how anybody survives. leyla, stay safe there, traveling around after a hurricane, not easy. we'll check back with you in a little bit. where are we looking next? fears of deadly mudslides, that's a particular concern when it comes to haiti. cnn's paula newton is live in haiti with the latest. you heard us talking about the mudslides. we know what happens in that place and help is always slow and always inadequate. >> reporter: still preparations are unnerving here. there are not a heck of a lot of evacuations going on.
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what is happening now, it just started raining. we are expecting this storm to hit later this afternoon. like you said, though, it's the flooding and mudslide risk. we had people during hurricane matthew swept right from their homes into the ocean. as i said, unsettling, lack of preparation. people know a storm is coming but there isn't much they can do. remember, chris, this is the poorest country in the hemisphere. what passes for preparation here is a heck of a lot of prayer. i don't have to remind you this country has already dealt with a lot. the earthquake several years ago, we had a cholera epidemic. i can tell you from being here in the villages, they are not equipped medically to handle anything. mature last year, massive destruction, killing hundreds. here they are praying. >> thank you very much. we'll check back with you. hurricane irma is starting to hit the dominican republic.
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that's where we find felicia gilbert who is stuck in her hotel room in pun that canada. what conditions are you seeing around you? >> outside there's lots and lots of wind. you can hear it from inside the room. we've been told to stay in our rooms, put our luggage in the bathroom. we've been moved further inland from the room we were originally in. they gave us lots of water yesterday. we're doing what we can to wait it out and hope things clear up. >> i think it's going to get worse before it gets better. we've been told by our meteorologist that the eye of where you are will arrive where you are about two hours. it will get accelerated and worse. are you seeing the wind and the rain get worse at this point? >> we are seeing that.
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actually i've heard it pick up in the past 10, 15 minutes. >> how long have you been in your hotel room? >> we've been in this room for a little over a day. but we checked into this resort on sunday. >> what were you doing there? is this supposed to be your vacation? >> this is a much-needed vacation, and unfortunately it's been hampered obviously by the storm that we were not expecting, or we were hoping would not get as bad as it's gotten. >> this is not the stress relieving vacation. i've been to punta kana. it's beautiful there. how are you going to get out now. >> we're scheduled to fly out tomorrow, on friday afternoon, given my understanding that jose is behind irma. so i don't know the cans of us actually making our flight.
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unfortunately our flight -- we're supposed to have a layover in san juan puerto rico. that's obviously very problematic. so i don't know when we're going to be able to get out. jetblue still hasn't -- it's my understanding our flight has not been canceled yet. so it's harder to rebach if your flight has not yet been canceled. >> who are you with there? >> i'm with two friends of mine this was a girl's trip, beach time. it's obviously been a little different than what we expected. >> did you know irma was headed in that direction when you booked your girls' trip? >> i did not know when i booked. i spent a lot of time on the trip advisor travel forums and seeing a pickup in traffic and people asking questions about that and expressing concern in the days leading up. i just hoped that given the path
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can change sometimes and it looked like at the time it was going to be more north of the island, that we would be okay. obviously it's kind of a gamble to take. if we didn't come, we would have lost all our money, and maybe that would have been the smarter thing to do. i don't know. >> understood. these things are always a gamble. in terms of your nerves and how you're feeling. on a scale of one to ten, how anxious are you right now? >> i would say i'm probably at like a six. i think it really helps that we are at a resort that seems like they're taking the threat very seriously, and i would say over a day ago we saw crews of people coming in with sandbags, sort of removing all types of furniture and chairs that could be knocked over or get caught up in the wind and hit someone, and we got notices under our door. it seems like they're taking it
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seriously. as much as that could potentially make us nervous, i think we're happy to know that they're doing what they can to sort of take care of us and keep their guests safe. that definitely helps. being further inland away from the beach since we've been moved to a different part of the resort makes me feel a little bit better. >> felicia, stay safe. we'll check back with you through the program over these next three hours, it will be intense. obviously you're prepared and can retreat even further into the intear kbrrior of your hote. stay safe. >> yes. >> my tweeter feed is lighting up from me saying irma is the size of texas. the storm is not over texas. we're laying it over there to
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show you doumenlly. let's check in with chad myers. i know these islands matter, but people here in the united states are so worried about florida. >> absolutely, of course. the models we've been looking at this morning still have pretty much a direct hit on some part of florida. the lady we had online, little tv right there, she's there. the eye is well north of her and moving away, no threat to that island at all. the threat to the dominican republic is along the spine of the mountains here. as the rain piles up, it will flood and flash flood back down toward the ocean. haiti, same type of spine, same flash flooding on the north side. now let's move you forward. we'll put you into motion and take you right into florida because that's where the center of the hurricane track is now from the national hurricane center. close to what i would call ocean reef in the florida keys as a cat 4 storm. there are a couple different
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things that can go on here. notice the eye and also notice the cone. the middle through here, less of a cone on the left side of florida than on the right side of florida which means the chance of it being over here is about 5%, over here about 5%. somewhere in the middle about 60%. that's kind of how the cone works there. there is the cone, the middle of the cone on sunday morning, late saturday night after dark, this is what the models look like now. many of them just offshore in miami, a couple of them right along the coast, kind of like a matthew scenario where it just won't leave. it's just pounding the coast for hours and hours. only one model, the uk net model on the west side going through key west and up through the central part of the country. i'm believing this because there are so many to the east. i would hate to see the storm scour the east coast with 130
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mile winds and running all the way through on up toward jupiter and finally getting offshore. that would be worst case scenario. half would be on land, half would be on water and it didn't die and we'll still have 130 to 145-mile-per-hour winds all the way up the east coast. that's what we're watching today. we'll keep you advised. >> that's a scary scenario. we'll check back with you. in florida coastal evac aches are under way. many scrambling for water, food and fuel. that's where we find cnn's rosa flores live in miami. what's the situation, rosa? >> reporter: alisyn, good morning. as the sun rises over miami, there is a longer and longer list of evacuations. in miami-dade, the evacuation orders have been issued for anyone living in a mobile home, also anyone in zone a which includes low lying coastal areas, includes the island to my south as well and includes barrier islands where i'm
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standing right now which is miami beach. mercy hospital is also evacuating about 200 patients. our friends to the south in monroe county which includes the keys, according to the governor, 25,000 people have already evacuated and our friends to the north in broward county, evacuation orders for anyone in a mobile home, in low lying areas and anyone east of u.s. 1 which includes pompano beach, deer field beach, hollywood. as more and more people in south florida begin to move north -- remember, that's the only way out. you can't move east or west. we're hearing reports of gas shortages, empty shelves. according to florida highway patrol they tell us they're seeing an increase of traffic, an increase of disabled vehicles on the side of the road. starting today they're going to start towing those vehicles to
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make room for the vehicles heading north away from the storm. as more and more people start doing that, chris, we're of course expecting even more evacuations to happen. it all depends where irma is going, depends on what public officials will be directing residents to do later today. of course, we'll be keeping an eye on all of that. >> rosa, as you know, the story in florida is always about who decides to stay and ride it out. when you have more experience with hurricane, you can sometimes have confidence, sometimes false confidence. we'll be down there with you soon. we'll have more on hurricane irma as the storm continues its move through the caribbean and up toward florida, but first, there's a big political story as well. president trump blind siding the leadership of his own party, going directly to democrats to cut a deal on the debt ceiling.
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the president taking matters into his own hands to get hurricane relief to the victims of the hurricane on the gulf coast and at the same time increasing federal borrowing power. but he also aligned himself with democrats leaving the congressional leadership shellshocked. >> we had a great meeting with chuck schumer, nancy pelosi and the whole republican leadership -- >> reporter: in a stunk move president trump bucking his own party, cutting a deal with democrats to provide disaster relief funding, extend the debt ceiling and fund the government for three months. according to a senior white house official, republican congressional leaders cautioned the president a difficult earlier that his tax reform plan would have to wait given other legislative priorities in september. president trump eager for a win, struck the deal to clear the busy gop september agenda by knocking off three major issues. house speaker paul ryan blasting the proposal just hours before,
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pushing for a more long-term solution. >> i think it's ridiculous and disgraceful that they want to play politics at the debt ceiling at this moment. >> reporter: a senior republican source described trump as being in apprentice mode, making a deal on the spot. a second source saying he cut off treasury secretary steve mnuchin mid sentence. at the height of a tense meeting, sources say first daughter ivanka trump entered the oval office to pitch her agenda on the child tax credit. republican leaders visibly annoyed by her presence and left to answer questions on the president's unexpected deal making. >> his feeling was that we needed to come together, to not create a picture of divisiveness. >> i will tell you i gasped when i heard it. >> we left and everybody was happy, not too happy because you can never be too happy. but they were happy enough.
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>> reporter: seemingly also on the president's mind working with democrats on a dreamer's bill as more than a dozen blue state attorneys general threatened to file a lawsuit. trump denying he's sending conflicting messages on his plan. >> congress i really believe wants to take care of this situation. chuck and nancy would like to see something happen and so do i. >> the president now planning to return to camp david to meet this time with his full cabinet to talk about everything from tax cuts to the growing crisis with north korea. comes on the same day his son don junior is expected to appear on capitol hill behind closed doors to answer questions about that controversial and mysterious meeting with the russian lawyer last year. back to you. >> okay, joe. we'll get into all of that with our panel. let's bring in cnn political analysts david gregory and john
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avlon and associate editor and columnist for realclearpolitics a.b. stoddard. a.b., let me start with you. why did donald trump do this? is this donald trump the deal-maker and party be damd. >> i don't think he woke up yesterday morning and decided he wanted to be bipartisan. there's a lot of poison in the well right now. it was really as bad as republicans thought it could be with the president attacking republicans over the summer when they got back from the august recess with all this work to do in 12 legislative days. this was beyond their imagination. he basically wanted to do something that he thought would help clear the decks or get back at republicans or both, but what he's done is made everything way more complicated for his own objectives. he's given the democrats more leverage before december, created another perilous vote for republicans. he slowed down momentum on tax reform. >> wait a second. you say slowed down momentum.
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wasn't this the breathing room, his aides said, the breathing room of september. >> no. they have to work as a team. they have to do a bunch of other things, to get reconciliation reforms, they have to be together on a budget that requires unity. they're lacking in that department right now. they have to fund the flood insurance program, the children's program. they have this making things far more difficult, the deficit will balloon even more between now and december. this idea that somehow he was growing his coalition is hooey. he was making a shotgun deal that sells out in the end his long-term objectives. and i think it makes everything much more complicated for december, but it really, really invites republicans who have been so acquiesce into and silent on trump to come out. >> that's a good end point there. that's the question.
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what will they do now? david gregory t president goes and meets with schumer in the senate, meets with pelosi, makes his deal. it's not his deal. they have to vote on it. do you think the republicans will show any kind of spine, if they don't like the deal, and who am i to question a.b. stoddard. if they don't like the deal, they could not vote for it, the leadership could buck it. everyone saying that's not going to happen. what's the cal lk lus? >> i don't think that's going to happen. they don't want to mess with the debt ceiling, more hard core, tea party folks who have been willing to play chicken on the debt ceiling. the president has taken that off the table. i think it's impossible to read too much into this in terms of the the president is doing what we thought he might do at the beginning of the administration which is to find a way to confuse democrats by luring them into certain deals and making life for them more difficult politically. there's a lot of time that has been passed and damage that's been done for that to be real.
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yesterday i talked about the president being a bystander with regard to congress. now he's reaching out, alienating conservatives, reaching out to democrats and seeing where he can do business. maybe a.b. is right. maybe there's room here -- the financial questions are difficult, maybe on comprehensive immigration there's something to be done if he's paving the way for negotiation with democrats. the real question goes to your question which is, is he going to start working the conservative base harder to keep them in line because he's giving them a lot more room to start walking away -- the conservative movement to start walking away and saying, look, this guy is not a party guy, not a republican guy. who knows? maybe trump wants divided government. maybe he thinks that will be better for him in the long run. >> go ahead. >> being a party guy shouldn't be the standard of success in american politics. did he undercut his own congressional leadership? yes. do they feel betrayed this morning?
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yes. but a president of the united states reached out across the aisle to try to form a bipartisan coalition to try to avoid an imminent unforced error that would have been a disaster for this country. that's a good thing if we want to break through partisan dead leans. from an american perspective, this is a president who reached across the aisle to get something done and that's a good thing. >> i think that's a really important note because we don't get to say that often. places like breitbart, steve bannon, they don't like it. here is the headline just to show you, breitbart says meet the swamp, donald trump punts september agenda to december after meeting with congress. there you see pelosi and chuck schumer. these are what they consider the iconic devils of the other side.
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to see the president in that picture with them. >> you want to consider the source. breitbart is a toxic receptacle for some of the ugliest thought that can be attributed to the right wing. >> that's the point, he's alienating that base. >> that can only be a good thing for anybody, no matter what your political stripe. how you do it matters. john, you're right. reaching across the aisle is good. how you reach across the aisle matters as well. >> i don't think what he did yesterday is effective. he has not reached out to democrats in eight months in office, on transportation, immigration, tax reform, obamacare. the republican party set out to do that completely on a partisan line vote. now they're in a jam because of failure, talking for the first time in a bipartisan way. the president just turned yesterday on a dime. he was not growing the tent. he was shooting his leadership in the face and that is going to have repercussions down the line. it wasn't really a bigby
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partisan moment, the kind that really lasts, that builds coalitions for the future. >> this is a three-month punt. i think it's still a good thing to get the debt ceiling lifted and the disaster relief through. >> david gregory, today don trump junior goes to capitol hill, talking again about the russia investigation. this is the first time that he, somebody this close -- i guess don junior is going to be speaking with them. what do we expect? >> there's a lot of questions about the circumstances of the meeting, what he thought he was getting, why he thought he was enthusiastic about getting this kind of information to hurt hillary clinton. i think all of this, as we start to learn more about other aspects of the investigation, what's in the headlines this morning, that a company with ties to the kremlin was buying up ads on social issues for
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facebook, the media campaign, the propaganda campaign that the russians were influencing and they were behind. this gets to the question of whether they had any witting or unwitting partners in the trump camp to work to help trump and hurt hillary clinton. i think that meeting which we should remember begins with this promise to offer dirt on hillary clinton, that's taken enthusiastically by don junior and shared with jared kushner and paul manafort, the campaign manager at the tierjs gets to that critical core question. >> the reason this is significant is not just because it's the president's son. that's highly unusual. let's not forget that. the point is we know russia wanted to help the trump campaign. that's irrefutable now despite all their denials. we know the only human being not named trum that hasn't critic e criticized the president is vladimir putin. we know they ran ads to -- this
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is walking and quacking like a duck, folks. >> it also matters that he's with the senate today, not the house. he's going to get -- it's going to be a much more straightforward situation, much less political. >> panel, thank you very much. stay with cnn for continuing breaking news coveragement we have, of course, our top story, hurricane irma. up next we are live with a hurricane hunter as he tracks the deadly storm from the air. wait until you see this. ♪ can i get some help. watch his head. ♪
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this is from hurricane hunters flying through the eye of the hurricane. joining us now from 45,000 feet is noaa hurricane hunter flight director paul harris. paul, can you hear us? >> yes, i can. >> what do you learn from being in the center of this particular storm? >> we have airplanes both in the center and also outside of the storm -- i'm on the aircraft outside of the storm right now. we're really focusing on understanding what the steering currents are going to do with this storm. as you can see, it's a bit of a nightmare right now for a lot of people on the ground. we want to make sure we get the right people out of the way at the right time. >> we keep telling the audience things change. do you think it will continue on its current trajectory and hit florida? >> as a floridian right now, i can only say to get everyone in that area prepared. i'm over in tampa and my family
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is ready to go if needed even though we see the general path shift a little bit to the east, we are still going to be prepared. we want everyone in florida and everyone up through the carolinas to be prepared. if you don't prepare now, you won't have time when we know you have to go. >> fair point. what you're seeing in that storm in terms of steering currents leads you believe there's still a good chance it hits the florida peninsula? >> well, it has a good chance. there's a lot of probabilities in play here. the models are starting to agree more and hopefully as we fly we can collect more data that will force the models to agree and give us a really good probability of where the storm will go. >> paul, one personal note. when you first decided, yes, i want to be someone who flies into the middle of a hurricane, what was that like, that decision when you actually acted on it the first time? >> that's a question i got a
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lot. i guess i didn't put a lot of thought into it. when i say what i do, that really brings the reality to the job. it's an amazing job. we have a role to play to make sure people get out of the way. i'll come out and do it every day if i have to. >> what stands out about irma? we know the people who look at the space shots of it are impressed by the store! and its eye. how about you who flies through so many. >> i've been doing this job for 15 years and i've seen a lot of big storms from '04, '05. in the end it comes down to the destruction the storm causes. that's what's going to mark the history of this storm. we can't do much for property except help people get it prepared. we want to make sure everyone knows the reason we're out here so they can listen to the noaa emergency center and their officials. we're not out here for fun.
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we're out here to save lives. we want people to listen. >> nothing fun about what you're doing. that's for sure. thank you for the service. we're going to check back with you a couple times during the show and see what kind of data you're collecting and what that leads you to believe about this storm. please stay safe. i'll check back with you in a little bit, paul. thank you. >> thank you for having us on. >> look how calm they are. i'm more on a commercial flight through a few bumps. >> i mean that is no joke. >> no, it isn't. incredible they bring us these pictures. there's a plea from the governor of florida to those in the path of irma, evacuate before it's too late. are they complying? we're live in the florida keys to show you next. at whole foods market, we believe in food that's naturally beautiful, fresh and nutritious. so there are no artificial colors, no artificial flavors, no artificial preservatives in any of the food we sell. we believe in real food. whole foods market. mikboth served in the navy.s,
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i cannot stress this enough. do not ignore evacuation orders. remember, we can rebuild your home, but we cannot rebuild your life. >> governor rick scott days in advance urging residents in south florida to get out. hurricane irma is coming, barreling closer. i know you're hearing that the
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trajectory is shifting east, and i know you're all very savvy down there, but the people who know say it's time to go. let's bring in sheriff rick ramsey. he serves monroe county, home to the florida keys. we have a lot of viewers in florida on this show, and we know they are some of the most storm savvy people in the country and that often fuels decisions to stay. they don't want to leave their home. they want to be there to recover as quickly as possible. they don't want to get locked out of their communities. what is your word about what to do now? >> we're telling people here that need to leave, this is one of the most violent storms we've ever seen. we tell people what the governor said, your life is not worth it. we can rebuild your homes, but can't take your life back. we're encouraging all our people to follow our mandatory evacuation orders and get out of the keys and get to safer ground until the storm passes and then come back and see what is here, and if you can, recover what you can of your property.
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there could be no essential services, hospitals will be closed, police, fire rescue will be impacted severely. >> we're showing the roads. they seem to be heavily trafficked right now. what is your observation about whether or not people are heeding the warnings. what are you seeing on the ground in terms of what is in place for you if you stay? it seems like all the stores are out, gas is harder to get than expected. what are you seeing in that regard z well? >> this is going to be a difficult time. we have a lot of people who started self-evacuating because they saw the magnitude of the storm, 185. people left on their own. a couple days ago we had huge amounts of traffic, backflows trying to get people out. now traffic is relatively light. but what you said is true, we're experiencing difficulty with fuel. a lot of gas stations have shut down, sent people home. i've been in contact with the governor's office trying to focus on getting fuel down here so we can make sure the
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evacuation is smooth. but we are seeing grocery stores empty, supplies are almost gone from the hardware store or the stores are already closed, closed a lot normal than in past hurricanes. past hurricanes they waited a lot longer. due to the magnitude, people are heeding the warning and leaving. those who are staying are going to have a difficult time with food and water, supply, gas. one more reason not to be here. there's nothing to help deal with any crisis you may have. >> now we get to the brave few among us, like you and your men and women who will stay and be there. how will the fuel shortages -- are you okay for gas and provisions to be there for people? what is going to be your ability to help people who stay behind? >> right now we as well are concerned about our fuel capacity. we're dealing with emergency management. i talked to my commanders this morning. we're trying to limit our cars on patrol to do more foot patrols, parking, not driving too much. we have the same concerns.
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how do we keep our fleet going. we need our fleet going before and after storms for search and rescue missions. we're concerned about preservation of our fleet. we're concerned about our fuel for our cars. obviously trying to keep our people fed and watered and get our people in safe places to ride the storm out. we have to be in a category 5 building. there's only so many of those here. our focus is trying to save our patrol fleet, put our people out of harm's way. once the hurricane is over, whatever it is, we're going to deal with it. we are concerned about our ability to have fuel to get from point a to point b. we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. >> sheriff, i'm sure you're telling your family to get out of harm's way, but you're staying behind to do your duty. be safe and let us know what word we need to get out to people. >> thank you. we'll have much more on hurricane irma and its path. first, north korea is expected to launch another intercontinental ballistic missile soon. what will the world community do now?
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mr. president, are you preparing military action in north korea? >> it's an option. we'll see what happens. >> president trump says all options are on the table. treasury secretary steve mnuchin says the president has an executive order ready to sanction any kun trip that trades with north korea if the u.n. doesn't pass new tough sanctions. just this morning the u.n. making more threats. joining us, former secretary of state anthony blanken. >> is this a stalemate or every day are the stakes ratcheting up? >> i think the stakes are ratcheting up. unfortunately the momentum has been with the north koreans, not with us. we need to turn this around. >> how? >> the way to turn this around is to have a deliberate, calm, sustained approach, to squeeze them and squeeze them for the
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purpose of getting them back to the table. >> look, the u.n. has passed sanctions. what does that squeezing look line? >> two things, alisyn. china has been on the fence for a long time, tried to have it both ways, doing just enough to stake with us but not so much that it pushes the north korean regime over the edge. chien nas has gotten to the point that it has to choose. everything north korea is doing is undermining china's place in asia and making life difficult for xi jinping as well. particularly squeezing on oil. other countries with relations with north korea, they need to be sanctioned, economic, diplomatic, military. the flip side is to make clear that we're prepared to go to the table to talk, and we also need to know at the right time what we're prepared to give if we want to get something. all that has to come together. >> i know you think president trump's blustery language, the fire and fury has not been helpful. really, what do you expect an
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american president to say when the north and kim jong-un says he's going to an night late america? >> here is the problem -- of course, kim jong-un is the problem. everything he's done is a profound source of instability and a threat to us. when you rhetorically lower the threshold on military action, you play right into kim's paranoia that we're out to get him. if you do something very deliberate and very appropriately cabin, like fly our planes over the north korea peninsula, that could get misinterpreted by kim and that's when you can get bombasted into war. >> there's an unnamed diplomat that shared with cnn what the new sanctions package looks like. exports of oil banned, full ban on textiles, full ban of north korea laborers generating earnings overseas, freeze assets on kim jong-un and the north
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korean government. >> that's a strong package. part of the problem is with the oil. you have to get the chinese to turn off the tap. all that oil is basically through a pipeline from runs from china into north korea. they've done that in the past. for example, they cut the sale of jet fuel to north korea. they need to do that. we've been working for more than a year and a half, going back to the obama administration, to get other countries in an economic relationship with north korea to cut it off. for example, the north koreans have thousands of guest workers sending money back home not to their families but to the renal ohm to pay for the missile and nuclear program. >> how do we get china to access? >> first things. what president trump said to xi jinping is look, this is a core problem for the united states. if you can't or if you won't, if you're not going to squeeze north korea, there are things we'll have to do that are not aimed at you that you won't like. more missile defenses, sanctions against chinese companies doing
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business with north korea. >> you think the trump administration should continue that -- >> but do it deliberately, do it comprehensively, try and keep the rhetoric down and focus on what's real. >> i want to talk about another fascinateding and very troubling topic. the 2016 election, as we know the russians meddled. now today, facebook is announcing disclosing, i should say, some of the things that these kremlin-connected russians did on facebook. they created something like 470 troll accounts as well as other ads that were meant to stir up vitriol, stir up outrage about issues connected to the 2016 election. okay. so that's just so disturbing. and hillary clinton has a new book out in which she says she wishes president obama had gone further. once he knew russia was meddling, she wishes he had made an address to the u.s. so that
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maybe when people were reading their facebook page, they knew this was russian-backed. what do you think? >> the revelations out of facebook is straight out of russia's playbook. this is exactly what they do. that what they're trying to do is divide us from each other and create these wedges. >> it worked. >> it's had some effect. second, it's hard not to feel total sympathy for secretary clinton in wishing and feeling more could have been done at the time. i think there were good reasons for the approach that president obama took. what we thought at the time that russia's principle was to sew doubt. the more the president talked it up, the more he would be playingish t into russia's hand, fueling the doubt they tried to sew. we did have an unprecedented statement by the director of homeland security and the director of national intelligence back in october.
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that's the same day the "access hollywood" tape broke and drowned out the message. >> tony blinken, thank you very much for all the insight. the big story is, of course u hurricane irma. right now it's slamming the caribbean. it is barreling toward florida. you keep hearing how big it is, how powerful it is. how devastating could it be? we'll judge by what we've seen already. we have live coverage of the impact next. when i walked through a snowstorm for a cigarette, that's when i knew i had to quit. for real this time. that's why i'm using nicorette. only nicorette gum has patented dual-coated technology for great taste, plus intense craving relief. every great why needs a great how. ♪
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