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top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. major backlash from president trump's own base. a lot of his supporters calling it downright betrayal today nicknaming him amnesty don. check out breitbart. the president and democratic leaders, nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and the president agreed they would move forward with daca. that's the program that allows undocumented immigrants with children to move into the u.s. that's 800,000 of the d.r.e.a.m.ers but at what cost? both pelosi and schumer say it will not be linked and the president seemed to be on board. >> we're building four different samples of the wall to see which one we're going to choose and the wall is going to be built.
it will be funded a little bit later. >> just a short time later he repeated at least four times that there will be nothing on daca unless he gets the wall. >> we'll only do it if we get extreme security, if we get not only surveillance but everything that goes along with surveillance and ultimately we have to have the wall. if we don't have the wall, we're doing nothing. let's go to cnn congressional correspondent phil mattingly. phil mattingly, what are republican leaders on the hill saying about all of this today? >> reporter: yeah, despite what we heard from senate minority leader chuck schumer, house minority leader nancy pelosi, paul ryan, the republican leader in the house saying there's not only no deal, there weren't even negotiations. these were discussions that occurred over dinner, chinese food, chocolate pie, brooke. very important to note there. very interesting to see. what democrats took coming out of that meeting is there is an
agreement on the parameters of the deal. essentially how the protections of daca participants would be put in place and in exchange republicans would get a boost in the spending. the baseline for the protection of daca participants would be something called the d.r.e.a.m. act. it involves a pathway to citizenship. it's been a huge problem in the republican party for years. this is something i asked speaker ryan about. take a listen. >> did the president shed any light on what his preferences would be? and also do you think something like the d.r.e.a.m. act, would you support that or would your conference support that? >> what i'm going to do is negotiate with colleagues. what i'm going to do is get consensus. no offense, phil, i am not going to negotiate through the media. we're going to get our consensus and we're having the conversations with our members right now while we negotiate a
compromise, which there will be a compromise. we believe this will occur. this compromise will include border security and enforcement so that we don't wind up with another daca problem ten years down the road. >> reporter: a lot of things to impact there. very disappointing he did not want to negotiate future legislation with the media. we would all have a lot of scoops if that were the case. first and foremost, the speaker saying there will be a compromise. that underscores what i've heard, which is republican leaders understand there is a deadline. republican leaders are very supportive of figuring out some solution to the daca administration. they want no part of 700,000 individuals being deported or under deportation. the speaker made another point. whatever the president wants to talk about in meetings with democrats, it's republicans who control the house and republicans who control the senate and republicans being comfortable with whatever a final deal is. brooke, the parameters aren't a secret. it will be border security funding and some type of protection for daca, but the
specifics, the details of those parameters are extremely important and haven't been flushed out yet. i think that's what we've been hearing from republicans all day. whatever democrats say, republicans aren't there yet. there's no deal yet. according to the speaker, not even negotiations, just discussions. >> right. phil mattingly, good to see you back on my tv again. exactly how outraged is the president's base? here is iowa congressman steve king. >> going to reverse here the president's policy or it will just blow up in his face. i mean, this was a straight up promise all the way through his campaign. what it means is the base believe him. they won't be able to defend him anymore. >> with me now, cnn political analyst brian carem. brian -- >> brooke. >> -- listen, you hear all these different versions of there's a deal, maybe there's a half deal, definitely there's a deal, definitely not amnesty.
what's the deal of the deal? >> the deal with the deal is the deal that you always have with the white house. they're about as acquainted with reality and facts as a blind man is acquainted with sight. what's the deal today? who knows. what's the deal tomorrow? who knows. the fact is he reached out to the democrats because he's desperate for a victory -- a legislative victory somewhere. of course he's going to anger what's left of the base. much of the base is already abandoned him. what's left stripped down to its barest raw minimum are people that can't get him re-elected in those numbers alone. so he's going to have to reach out at some point in time and try and build bridges unless he's content on being a one-term president. so his reaching out to democrats and, by the way, what schumer did and what pelosi did afterwards, circumventing the process and putting out a press release about what was said and done in that meeting was actually kind of brilliant politically because now they've kind of painted him into a
corner. and so you have sarah sanders coming out moments later saying, no, no, the wall's still on the -- we're going to build the wall. and i've got news for you, the wall's never going to be built. it can't be built. it's physically impossible. i mean, that's the one thing that the base -- they've never been able to rectify the fact that geographically you can't do it between dell rio and el paso texas is that wonderful area, it's beautiful called big ben. building a wall there would be like building a wall across the grand canyon. it can't be done. >> yeah. >> what exactly are they going to build? they've never really been able to determine what they're going to build. >> it's just totally valid question. we heard different questions to the president for now we're going to put together pieces of the wall that existed. we know all about that. take you back to a point, yes, the brilliant strategy of the chuck schumer/nancy pelosi statements the other night. everybody loves a good off mike moment.
apparently senate minority leader chuck schumer was just caught talking about this meeting last night with the president. this just happened today. let's listen. >> what we said is exactly -- >> i asked the president, you're much better off if you can step left and step right. if you have to step in one direction, you're boxed. oh, it's going to work out and it will make us more productive, too. okay. on this thing we've got to wait and see -- >> okay. so i know it's kind of muffled, but the bottom line is, you know, he likes us. he likes me. >> he likes us. >> he really, really likes me. >> sally fields moment. >> totally. so, i mean, we laugh, and i don't know how that will sit with the president and his overall strategy, but there's been much discussion today about
the seat change from the white house. these last eight months i haven't gotten any huge wins on the scoreboard legislatively, so you know what, if i need to do a deal with the democrats, i'm going to talk to the democrats about doing a deal. >> that's true. there's been no question that he's frustrated with republicans who have been very good over the last seven or eight years of poking holes in things, but as far as governing, they haven't really been able to do it that much. and it's kind of frustrating for this president who -- and any president, for that matter, who has to sit there and listen to legislators poke holes in things and never really do anything. he has kind of put them on notice that they have to do something. and for the republicans who love to cheer and scream and yell and rant and rave, they haven't been able to legislate very well. they're in the majority. that's the ultimate question is can he get enough republicans along with democrats and build bipartisanship. now sarah sanders comes out and says that he's done more for bipartisanship in eight months than obama did in eight years
and that's as disingenuous as anything else that comes out of the white house, but actually if he can pull it off, then it will be one in the win column for him. >> chocolate cake and chinese food. >> chocolate cake. can't beat it. >> who knew. brian kim, thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. president trump this hour, he is returning to the white house after visiting florida for a firsthand look at irma's destruction and personally hearing from these hurricane victims. a crowd chanted u.s.a., u.s.a. as president trump handed out food to people who live in these badly damaged areas, especially this mobile home community in naples there. the president with this message to floridians struggling amid all of this destruction. >> well, we love the people of florida and they went through something that i guess the likes of which we could really say nobody's ever seen before. they've never seen a category like this coming, you came in at a 5. all you have to do is look at what happened in the keys. we love these people. we're going to be back and we're
going to help. >> let's talk it over with cnn contributor dave halstead. he's a former director of the florida division of emergency management. dave, nice to have you on. how did the president do today? >> well, i think he said the right things. the most important thing he did though was sign that major disaster declaration which releases funds into the state. there's two primary categories, one is state assistance and public assistance. it will bring it into the states and counties and get everything back up and running. right now we're in the life sustaining mode. you saw him at places where citizens are being fed. water is being delivered. fema has millions and millions of meals en route to florida, en route to the impacted areas. millions of gallons of drinking water. life sustaining is the issue now. it's important that he shows his face, that of the vice president to show how concerned they are
and to try to reassure the citizens. >> he talked about getting people up and running. something like 2.5 million people still don't have power and the president addressed that today. >> power is -- literally, rick, it's going on as we speak. it's going way ahead of schedule, weeks ahead of schedule. >> i mean, you know, dave, i mean, let's just get a reality check when we hear ahead of schedule. you know, obviously he wants to be optimistic and he knows way more about any of this than you and i do at the moment, but how long does this kind of thing really take to turn back on? >> well, again, there are going to be homes without power for many more weeks past the deadlines that have been set. the issue is we keep focusing on florida power and light. granted, they are the large dog in the hunt. there are dozens and dozens of private utilities and they need to be on the same page as the president to make sure they're pushing to get that power restored. listen, the power companies are
here. in fact, four miles from my house is a staging area of 150 k con edison vehicles going into the impacted area. a lot of the grid has to be rebuilt. a lot of it was flooded with saltwater. so all of those systems, the transmission distribution lines have to be checked. there's hundreds if not thousands of homes that can't receive power. each one of those have to be cut off to make sure that once the grid is back up and running that we don't have live electric going into the buildings that can't quite frankly receive power. while i applaud the president and his wanting to get the message out, my concern is is that those deadlines are going to come and we're still going to have a lot of people without power. >> yeah. yeah. you would know. dave halstead, thank you. >> yes, brooke. coming up here, amnesty don. just one of the names the president has been called in the wake of his dinner with democrats last night. is the president at risk of losing his base? we'll talk to a conservative talk show host for his take on the president's change in
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jackson. dale, do you feel betrayed? >> absolutely. i'm not a big donald trump fan. i never was but one of the things i was behind is he was going to do away with daca. yeah, that's a betrayal. >> and, so, as a result of the betrayal, i'm talking about a lot of people reminding us this is a man who was a democrat for many, many years before becoming a republican, i understand you wrote on facebook today, you wouldn't be surprised if, what? >> i said yesterday that i wouldn't be surprised if he switched parties and was kind of tongue in cheek, but let's look at what chuck schumer and nancy pelosi are actually doing. they're servicing one of their biggest donors. he supported democrats and now here they're trying to pull him out of a situation. he needs a win and he's having a hard time getting it with republicans because daca is amnesty. here comes chuck schumer and nancy pelosi to do just like
they did with the debt ceiling and bail him out. that's exactly what's happening. they're serving one of their constituents. >> rachel bade, it's fascinating hearing this spectrum of opinion on what the president has done with this dinner last night and then add to this, we were talking about the hot mike moment over on capitol hill where leader schumer is essentially caught on mike channelling his best sally field and saying, he likes us, or he really likes me. how's that going to play? >> not well with conservatives. look, about r there's a bromance going on right now between the president and chuck schumer, but i think that right now this whole reaction you're seeing from conservatives, the blow back, that's why on capitol hill we're seeing leaders basically try to walk back this deal. the white house is also saying the same thing, right? speaker paul ryan came out and said, there is no deal. we heard majority leader kevin mccarthy say something about how democrats tricked trump and basically are trying to give him a way to sort of get out of this
tentative framework he struck last night about pushing the wall to a further deadline down the road and doing some sort of codification for the d.r.e.a.m.ers to allow them to stay here long term. see, look, there's a problem here. that is, trump not only said this to schumer and pelosi, he also according to sources i have spoken with, floated this to a bunch of lawmakers earlier in the day. he doubled down on it during a tweet last night. could he change his mind? very well he could. i know for a fact republican senators are telling me they're going to try to get him to push for the wall as part of a daca fix. you have the house, a lot of conservatives mad at him. they're trying to push him further on the right with this and hoping he backs out. >> quickly, dale, do you want that wall? >> absolutely, but i also know donald trump is a pathological liar so who knows what he's going to feel tomorrow and what he's going to try to pull off. the guy needs a win, that's all he's going for here and he has no ideological core. he was just better than hillary
clinton. >> dale jackson, not holing back. rachel bade, thank you so much. coming up next here on cnn, new details coming to life that the treasury secretary looked into getting a government plane to use for his honeymoon, and now there is an internal investigation. at whole foods market, we believe in food that's naturally beautiful and fresh. delicious and powerful, and full of nutrients. so there are no artificial colors...
mnuchin said he wanted the jet so that he could have secure lines of communication while he was abroad. he later withdrew that request, and now these investigators are telling cnn that they will be reviewing all of mnuchin's government-related travel requests because this isn't the first time he and his wife's travel have, shall we say, raised some eye braus. let's talk this over with larry noble, general counsel for the campaign legal center and cnn white house reporter kate bennett. good to see both of you. larry, just again to be clear, mnuchin never actually followed through with getting this jet. nevertheless, the request was apparently made. how brazen would this sort of a request have been versus his excuse that he wanted the secure coms line? >> it's pretty brazen. they're only supposed to use the military jets when it's absolutely necessary, and the fact that the answer came back that we have other ways to have secure communications shows that, you know, this wasn't a serious -- a really serious
effort to protect the government interests. what this was was an effort to use a private government jet, an air force jet, to go on his honeymoon. you know, one of the ironies of this is that his wife got into an instagram battle with somebody else and made a comment saying, i bet you think that the government paid for our honeymoon or travel, laugh out loud, laugh out loud. now it's apparent that she said that because she already knew the government had rejected their request for that travel. it's a pretty brazen attempt. it fits into other things they have done such as the question why they went to kentucky during the eclipse. >> right. right. right. >> it seems to be looking at the government resources as something they can use for their own benefit. >> on some of that, kate bennett, you have new reporting on some of this new chin stuff. what are you learning? >> well, i think, you know, the point here what we don't know, louise linton, we don't know her very well. she likes luxury things. she did a story for "town and
country" before her wedding detailing the diamonds she plans to wear before the ceremony. this was a woman who felt comfortable tagging the thousands and thousands of dollars she ones was wearing in clothes. she's an actress. she owns a production company. they've recently moved to a large home in washington that she's apparently integrating herself within the social scene here. you know, this optics wise is not great timing. her husband is now part of the government. he's working on tax reform of all things. so there's sort of this brazen contradiction between what has happened now twice in terms of making headlines and what his real day job is. >> but, so, to kate's point, larry, you know, when you look at the full picture, you eluded to the fort knox/eclipse/kentucky trip and the whole wife tagging fancy, fancy designers and it just begs
the question, is the man tone deaf? >> at the very least he's tone deaf. i think what you're seeing here is a very different view of the world than most americans have or are capable of having. it's a view of the world that you take what you can get, that -- you know, that these services are there for me and i will use them, you know, regardless of what the actual rules are, regardless of who's paying for them. i have to say that the tone for this administration is set at the very top. there seems to be just this idea that it's not a question of what we should do, it's not a question of what norms are, it's not even a question of what the law is. it's a question of what we can get away with. so, you know, it's the whole thing of i can ask. i can try. if i don't get caught, i get away with it. i think it's the whole tone of the administration that it's tone deaf to how average americans live and it's tone deaf to what the ethics rules are and what they're about. i think we're going to see this continue to happen unless they have a real change of heart about what their role in government is. >> as we've been reporting, there is an internal investigation over this
honeymoon jet request. we'll stay on it. larry, kate, nice to see you. coming up next, we have breaking news now involving the president talking to reporters on board air force one as he's making his way back to washington. made news on a variety of topics, including what we were just discussing. stand by for that next. - [narrator] with custom ink you can design custom t-shirts and other great products for every occasion. for the first day of school to game day and everything in between. with the best collection of styles and graphics to choose from, it's easy to go online and create custom t-shirts, and more, for all of lifes events. (drumming)
well, we know now that the president has made news on multiple fronts on the senator scott meeting, hurricane irma, republicans, daca all on board of air force one. so here is the president. >> anybody have any questions? what did you think? >> i think the government has done a great job. i think the federal government working with state and local has really done a terrific job. now the key is we've just gotten words on the keys. that was just wiped out. that was a hurricane 5 hit it but we're getting tremendous
amounts of supplies and medical and a lot of other things out to the keys. but for the most part, the electric is going back on. it's already on in certain locations like miami. but it's going back on on a daily basis. we have masses of -- massive amounts of electricians, massive amounts of electrical workers all over the state. they came from all over the country. they came from canada, as far away as canada. there's never been a mobilization of electrical workers like we have in the state of florida and it's going very, very rapidly. much of it is already on. >> [ inaudible ]. >> i'll be going to the virgin islands this next week as you know as the united nations. i'm going to the virgin islands and puerto rico sometime the end of next week or the following week. i spoke to both governors. we've got it very well covered. virgin islands was really hit.
they were hit about as hard as i've ever seen, but the virgin islands were hit. but i'll be going there at the end of the week or the beginning of the following week. i'll also be going to puerto rico the same day. >> the united nations next week [ inaudible ]. >> a review of what? >> the iran deal. [ inaudible ] >> you'll see what i'm going to be doing very shortly in october, but i will say this. the iran deal is one of the worst deals i've ever seen. certainly at a minimum the spirit of the deal is just atrociously kept, but the iran deal is not -- is not a fair deal to this country. it's a deal that should have never, ever been made and you'll see what we're doing in a couple of weeks. it's going to be -- it's going to be in october. >> some action? >> we'll see. you're going to see, but we are not going to stand for what they are doing to this country.
they have violated so many different elements, but they've also violated the spirit of that deal and you will see what we'll be doing in october. it will be very evident. >> what do you say to republicans who are reaching out to democrats and say what's going on? >> well, many republicans really like it. as you know, i was with a great republican representative just now who you know very well, and -- two of them, and they are very, very happy with what i'm doing. and i'm a republican through and through, but i'm also finding that sometimes to get things through it's not working that way and, you know, we got very poorly treated on the health care plan, and now you see what's happening where people are going single payer, exactly what i said would happen. and single payer would be a terrible thing for our country. so i am -- my relationship with the republicans is excellent. many of them agree with what i'm doing. you just saw two, mario, you
know who i'm talking about. we just met with two great republican representatives who love what i'm doing, but we have to get things passed. if we can't get things passed, then we have to go a different route, but we have to get things passed. you've covered my statement very accurately on the dinner last night and, you know, they cannot obstruct for a wall because we definitely need a wall. i just spoke, by the way, to the president of mexico and as you know, it's been impossible to reach him because of the -- he was in the mountains where they had the earthquake and there was no cell. we spoke yesterday but the phone connection never got put together because he had no access to cell. but we just had a good talk, just got finished with him, and that whole earthquake is terrible. it's just terrible. so we paid our respects. he, likewise, also paid his respects with respect to irma
and harvey. >> can i ask you, what's your response to [ inaudible ]. >> i don't know anything about it. i just heard about it. >> do you think it's inappropriate? >> i doubt he would do -- i've known him a long time. he is a very straight shooter so it could be that he used a plane and he's paying for it. i don't know anything about it. i just heard about it a little while ago. >> do you feel confident that the -- >> total confidence. i've known him for a long time. he's a very honorable man. >> how about gary cohn? >> i have confidence in gary, too. >> senator tim scott, go back on the hill and suggest to reporters there, he expressed frustration about the way that you handled the aftermath at charlottesville. [ inaudible ] were those things discussed? >> yeah, they were. we had a great meeting. tim scott's been a friend of mine for a long time. i've been a supporter of his when i was a civilian. i was one of his earlier supporters and i supported him
when he ran. we had a great talk yesterday. i think especially in light of the advent of antifa, if you take a look at what's going on there, you have some pretty bad dudes on the other side also, and essentially that's what i said. now because of what's happened since then with antifa, you look at really, you know, what's happened since charlottesville. a lot of people are saying -- in fact, a lot of people have actually written, gee, trump might have a point. i said, you've got some very bad people on the other side also, which is true. but we had a great -- >> what did he ask you? >> we had a great conversation and he also has legislation which i actually like very much. the concept of which i support to get people going into certain areas and building and constructing and putting people to work, and i told him yesterday, that's a concept i could support very easily. >> did he ask you to make any [ inaudible ]. >> we did talk about that, yeah. and, by the way, it's something
i do, but it's something i said we would continue to do, and we did talk about it. >> did you make some promises in that regard? >> i would do it. i told him i would do it. and he knows me -- >> let me -- >> he knows we've already done it, but i told him and i told him very strongly, i like that. and i also like very much legislation having to do with jobs in certain areas. >> making deals for a -- >> say it -- >> making deals -- >> go ahead, joe. >> mark schwartz said the other day that the obamacare process, you [ inaudible ]. get your legislation across the goal line. is that true? do you share that? >> well, i'll give you a great example. so we had a surprise from john mccain and we had -- and then john mccain, he came out of nowhere. and we had a surprise. it was a very unpleasant surprise. and now what are we looking at? we have people now talking about
single payer, and that's what we get. so the republicans have to stick together better. they have the votes and then john mccain changed his mind, pure and simple. and if the republicans don't stick together, then i'm going to have to do more and more. by the way, the republican party agrees with me. the people out there definitely agree with me. if they're unable to stick together, then i'm going to have to get a little help from the democrats and i've got that. i'll tell you. for the tax bill, i would be very surprised if i don't have at least a few democrats. i have states that i won by 30 points and more where they have people running, and frankly i think and i get the impression that they very much like the ideas of this tax plan. we'll be submitting on the week of the 25th a detailed -- most people know about the plan in terms of the details, but we'll actually be opening up the week of the 25th and i think it's
going to be something that's going to be very successful and i do believe we'll have some democratic votes. >> most democrats have said if the 1% gets the tax cut they won't be against it. >> this is not a plan for the rich. this is a plan for the middle class and this is a plan for jobs and this is a plan to bring $4 trillion back into the united states. and people have wanted to do for years, both democrat and republican. for years they've wanted to bring that money back into the united states. this is a plan to bring -- it could be more than 4 trillion. frankly, nobody really knows what the number is. they've been saying for years it's 2.5 trillion, but that was -- for four years i've been hearing that. obviously the' much more. i think it's anywhere between 4 and $5 trillion, could be much more than that. we'll be bringing that back into the united states. i will have tremendous democrat support and republican support for that. >> will it be revenue neutral for them? >> it will be revenue neutral
when you add growth because we're going to have magnificent growth. if you look at gdp for the last quarter, it was 3%. everybody was shocked to see that. i think we would have had -- i'm not going to use numbers, but i think we would have had substantially more than that for the next quarter in gdp. the problem is, we just got hit with two massive hurricanes, the likes of which we essentially haven't seen before. so that will have a little bit of an impact and maybe more than a little bit of an impact, but we have -- we have gdp -- if you raise -- if you go up one point in gdp, it takes care of many sins. if you go up two points, it takes care of everything. and i think we're going to rock it in terms of gdp. and don't forget, i've been saying for a long time that gdp's going to be higher than you thought. when gdp -- when it hit 3% this last quarter, people, including many of the people here, were
very, very surprised because they thought it would be about 1.7 or 1.8. a lot of it has to do with all of the regulations i've cut where people can actually now go out and build and farm and do all the things they want to do. at the same time being environmentally friendly and regulation friendly. so i just want to say, including growth, because it's a very fair question, a good question, if you want to include growth, because we're going to go like a rocket ship, we're going to more than make up the difference. >> mr. president, the severity of the storm, do you think there's climate change? >> we've had bigger storms than this. if you go back into the 1930s and the 1940s and you take a look, we've had storms over the years that have been bigger than this. if you go back into the teens you'll see storms that were as big or bigger. so we did have two horrific storms, epic storms, but if you go back into the '30s, the '40s, you go back into the teens, you'll see some storms that were
very similar and even bigger. >> the federal reserve, are you thinking about the next chairman? do you want to keep chairman yellen -- >> well, i do respect chairman yellen a lot. i do like her and respect her, but i haven't made that decision yet. i think the country is doing well. we got hurt by the two hurricanes. the country is doing well. the stock market hit a new high as you see. jobs are at a 17-year low. unemployment is at the highest number it's ever been. if you look at the unemployment is low and the employment in the country is just about at the highest point it's ever been. we're doing well. very importantly, just to finish, companies are starting to move back into our country. expansion of auto firms and plants. expansion of other things including foxcon. it's made by who, you know who, foxcon, and they're moving into the country for the first time.
apple is going to be building massive plants. there's a big reason for that, and the reason happens to be trump. have a good time, everybody. >> it looks like the bomb was initially bigger than -- >> the what was? >> bomt that exploded. might have been two or three times bigger. looks like they might be making preparations for another blast. they're reaching out to xi jinping. where are you on north korea? >> we have a very good relationship with china and the president of china. we are working on different things. i can't tell you obviously what i'm working on, but believe me, the people of this country will be very, very sad. i think that a lot of effort is going to be put into this. we're looking at what's going on. i mean, as we speak, we are literally looking at it right now and you will be seeing what we're going to do. >> [ inaudible ]. >> probably be visiting -- i was invited by the president. we'll probably all be going over as a group in -- sometime in
november and we'll be doing japan, south korea, possibly vietnam at the conference. >> he invited us so we're going to see. >> south korea, china? >> it looks like definite. we've been invited by the philippines. they want us to go to vietnam. >> [ inaudible ]. >> so we'll possibly do that. it'll be a busy -- it'll be a busy ten days, keep you guys busy. >> back in time for thanksgiving? >> i hope so. i don't know, but i hope so. >> thank you. >> [ inaudible ]. >> anybody have any questions? >> okay. so we wanted to play that entirety -- that in its entirety for you, 15 minutes of the president on air force one answering a smattering of questions from the press pool traveling back with him to washington, d.c.
i've got gloria borger and jeff zeleny joining us to discuss the headlines. gloria, beginning with daca. we've been talking about the dinner over chinese food and chocolate cake with the two top democrats in the house and senate last night. was a deal done or not last night? the fact is that parts obviously of his base, i talked to one this past hour who feels betrayed by the fact that he's trying to maybe do deals with democrats. the president on air force one saying many republicans like it. he said presumably referring to daca and are, quote, very, very happy with what we're doing. some republicans, speaker ryan and others, yes, true. >> yeah. ryan -- you know, ryan wanted a deal on daca. just on listening to the president, first of all -- and jeff can talk about this better than i can, but i think he came out to do the gavel because he was feeling pretty good. you know, this president doesn't like to talk to the press and just say, do you have any questions, if he doesn't really want to answer them. he went out there and he wanted
to talk about daca. and it's very clear that health care was on his mind. and he felt the need to say, look, i'm a republican through and but things didn't work so well before. i'm going to try it a different way. and i think what he was saying was, you know, sometimes we're going to need democrats, i'm going to need them on tax reform. and i'm going to need them on daca and if you guys don't like it, there are some republicans who do. and it was very clear he was talking about rubio who was with him in florida, who did like the president's plan. and so, you know, he's a deal maker, he says, and he hasn't been winning. and what he wants to do is win. and he thinks he can win this way so he'll do it this way and said basically there are some who don't like it, but there are some republicans who are with me. >> and jeff, i'd love to hear your analysis. on the note of the president talking a lot to the press today, which we welcome, apparently he then got to the
white house, got off the helicopter, and kept talking. so if i may, let's get to that sound. >> i think we're moving very rapidly. we're renovating large sections of walls. it'll be brand new by the time we finish. we're building samples of four different walls in order to make the choice and after the choice is made, we'll either have it in budget or some place, as if the democrats aren't going to approve it, we are aren't going to do what they want. i think it'll work out. we're working on a deal for daca, but a lot has to do with the amount of security. we want very heavy security at the border. we want surveillance, we want a lot of things at the border, and ultimately we don't want them to obstruct with the wall. just so you understand, we're renovating massive sections of wall right now and essentially it'll be brand new. we'll be able to use that.
daca now and the wall soon. but the wall will happen. thank you. if you what? no. no. not at all. we're not talking about that. we're not talking about amnesty at all. we have not talked about amnesty. there'll be no amnesty. we're not talking about that as part of the transaction. thank you. >> the president lingering, answering a couple different questions. jeff, it's interesting to note, as much talk on daca today, the multiple, the tweets, and then the chats with press about we're building a wall, we're building a wall, yeah? >> brooke, what's happening here that we've just seen is that
flood the zone strategy from this white house. they realize that the democrats last night chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, sort of, you know, framing this discussion this morning was not necessarily good for their base. so we -- i can't recall a day actually, brooke, during the eight months where the president has talked like this. they're offering a buffet of a multiple variety of headlines. i believe to, you know, obscure the fact that there really are some divisions here between this president, his framework of a deal with democrats, and republicans on capitol hill are sort of smarting over this, but he did end the day here as he started, you know, some number of hours ago when he left for florida, talking about that wall and about amnesty. he wants to make clear that this is not amnesty. some republicans, in fact some conservatives think it is. they think that these dreamers were here, you know -- they're undocumented and should have to go home.
in fact, his attorney general believes that. despite the president talking about a variety of headlines, that is something he needs to sort out. i think one thing in the conversation on air force one that is going to sort of demand some closer inspection is his talk about the meeting yesterday with south carolina republican senator tim scott. the president basically went back to an original explanation if i was hearing it properly saying look, there are people who are bad on both sides. there are people, you know, who are -- >> he said we have some pretty dudes on the other side as well. >> and we just have a reaction here from senator scott. our phil matingly on capitol hill caught up with him moments ago, i'm going to read what he said. that's who he is. this who he has been, i didn't go into that meeting thinking he was going to change. senator scott goes on to say, i want ed to inform and educate. i think we accomplished that, but to assume immediately thereafter he's going to have an
epiphany is unrealistic. that, i think, the conversation with senator scott yesterday and senator scott's reaction, we'll try and get more from him is interesting. the charlottesville matter of course created such an issue for this president. he did say that he supports gary kohn who was at odds with him on charlottesville. he tried to defend steven mnuchin there as well. a lot to chew over there. >> i want to bring in two more voices on this senator scott of the white house yesterday. and with me, paris bernard and solomon jones. thank you for both coming on. i've got to throw this at you. the fact that the president came back. and the bad guys as well.
>> why is he doing that? >> senator scott, he wasn't as and sort of becoming the senior statesman in the senate on a host of issues, be it tax reform, health care, small businesses, but all things house senator scott. in addition to that, the platform that he has as someone who can speak with some a. authority on race relations. and so what he did yesterday was go and speak truth to power. he informed the president about how, about his perspective on a whole host of issues, especially charlottesville. as a way to encourage him to listen to other sides of people within the party that agree with the gop platform that say, this is my perspective as a black
american in this country about what happened in charlottesville. and senator scott said it perfectly. he had no expectation that the president was automatically going to change his total perspective on how he responded. the president is a law and order type of an individual, who does not like violence and as well as condemning multiple times racist people that are white supremacist, kkk, and the like. but the president is doing the right thing by meeting with senator scott, and he promised to continue to meet with him. and i think these are positive steps in the right direction that this president is doing. >> and another potential positive step and solomon, i want to hear what you think -- same question i asked of paris, in addition, washington post columnist reporter reported he asked the president a question about the tim scott meeting. he confirmed, senator scott asked him to diversify the administration, quote, i told him i would do it.
encouraging? >> not really. i think that the president tends to meet with black people who are pliable, black people who will agree with his point of view. black people who are more conservative and certainly we don't all think the same thing. i think his policy, the policy put forward with harmful frankly to black people -- >> do you think senator scott is pliable? >> that doesn't know what she's doing. i think it's harmful to roll that with 14 police departments across the country that have abused black people. i think it's harmful to attack affirmative action so that our students can't go to the best universities in the same numbers. and so it doesn't matter, it's like chess. that's how white supremacy works. the pieces can only move in a certain way. the black night can only move in an l shape just like the white knight can only move in an l
shape. putting people of color if they are not in there if they don't challenge the agenda is i don't think something that's going to be useful to my community. >> i'm listening closely to you, but do you think the only republican black senator, senator scott, south carolina, is pliable, and do you respect the man for trying to talk to the president about all of this? >> absolutely, i respect tim scott for trying to talk to the president. but i think that tim scott is a conservative. i think that when you meet with people like kanye west, i would like to see him with thought leaders who understand what's going on in the black communities that the president has talked about in ways that have been insulting. and so, yes, i think that tim scott is the type of person that he would meet with because tim scott is more conservative. yes, i respect the fact that he tried to make the effort, but trying to put black people into his cabinet who aren't going to try to move the needle, i don't
think is useful. >> okay. i am out of time. i've got send it over to washington, but i really appreciate both of your voices. paris and solomon for weighing in on this late breaking news from this gaggle on board air force one, the president talking about this meeting at the white house with senator scott. i'm brooke baldwin, thanks for being with me. the lead with jake tapper starts right now. art of the deal by nancy pelosi and chuck schumer? the lead starts right now. president trump touring hurricane damage in florida today while back in d.c., game of let's make a deal. is president trump abandoning his base by pairing up with democrats to protect the dreamers? just how deep does russia's use of facebook for propaganda purposes go? well, even facebook executives say they don't know. and one source tells cnn, it might still be going on. putin clicking like on that one, no doubt. plus, this just might eclipse their past travel tr