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points for the london underground. imagine what we would be looking at now. it almost doesn't bear thinking about. this device was incredibly crude, given this was the scope of the ambition of those behind this, and what should they be looking towards. that's the fear and the impetus that is ratcheting up the investigation now. our sources tell us this is very much the early stages of this investigation, and they are looking really there, first and foremost their ambition and intent is to close in on anybody that is involved in pulling this together. the broader context has to be if people are trying to pick up the skills of the kind of bomb-making to try and pull off something of this ambition, that is very worrying. the london mayor has told cnn this is part of a global shift on the part of terror cells, as they lose their territorial
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footprint in iraq and syria they are looking to wreak havoc here and these attacks do provide them with some propaganda, and the message from brittain authorities, stay calm, we are here for the people of britain. >> thank you for the update there live from the scene. joining us on the phone is an iwitne eyewitness and he was on the train when the device detonated. tell us what happened on the train. >> what happened was the train just arrived at the platform and it opened its doors. we heard some noise and everybody was just screaming and coming off the train. [ inaudible ] >> we can imagine how terrifying it is. so you heard a big bang and an
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explosion and then what did you see? >> i heard everybody screaming and shouting and we just ran away. we just ran away, and as we run away the station has a staircase going down, so we get out of the station. and people was just falling in the stairs and getting ran over and people were stepping on people. there was a lot of children -- a lot of people were burned and we had to go to this -- we were asked to go to this part of the station where we were. >> that is scary. to imagine the chaos afterwards and the stampede, of course, that happens trying to get up the stairs and out of the station and the idea that children were on trying to go to school because, of course, this was during rush hour.
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what sorts -- i know that first responders came to the scene quickly and then what sorts of injuries did you see? >> i saw people with burns. there was a lady and she had both legs burned. there were people with their heads burned, and people were walking over them and running over them. i saw a lady and she had blood on her clothes. it was horrific. it was really, really bad. >> we can imagine seeing that level of blood and burns, of course it is. we can hear how upset you are and thank you for taking the time to share with us this eyewitness account. please take care of yourself. >> sure, thank you. >> what does this look like and why? let's bring in our cnn terrorism
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analyst. they are reporting about the timer, and if true sheds light on it and why? >> it suggests it's not meant as a suicide attack. it means whoever did this may have wanted to launch more attacks in the uk in london. this is a race against time now to find this attacker, the perpetrator and anybody he is connected with. good news is there's a lot of news, so they will have a good idea of what it looks like. this device did not go off and there will be a wealth of forensics they can distract from the device to figure out who is responsible. are there any fingerprints that would go to any criminal records. and they are immobilized to find
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this individual to stop more attacks that could be planned today in the uk. >> frightening in one sense, and also in a relative sense in terms of what it means and threat perspective, because if it had been more of a sophisticated device, you know more of who you are dealing with. and it informs to a new and evolving threat, it's the internet radicalized idiot that learned just enough. >> they have vans driving into people, and a lot of people have been killed in the uk this year because of that. we don't know much about the device yet, what sort of chemical was involved, and was it on the sophistication level, and everybody's life in that carriage would have been in jeopardy, or was it something
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more amateurish. for some reason this thing did not work, and it ignited and there was no detonation, and for that reason many lives were saved. >> a quick take. president trump says this happened in the uk because you are not pro active enough and it doesn't happen here in part because of the travel ban. >> i don't understand the logic. the uk terrorism services pushing masses resources to deal with the threat. there have been almost 400 terrorism-related arrests in the last year. that's a 70% increase. they are the best in class in dealing with this, and with the travel ban, chris, i haven't spoken to one expert who thinks that that is a good idea, that that helps protect the united states from the terrorism
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threat. of course this individual was in the uk likely to be british. what is he suggested? they ban everybody coming in from britain as well? >> thank you very much and let you know what you learn. we are following news out of north korea, another ballistic missile filed out over japan. this is the third missile launched since trump's fire and fury message. what you have learned will? >> this is the furthest any of the missile has travelled. it's 23 miles up over japan's northern island of hokkaido. had it been to the south it would be been here the island of guam. this is sending a message to the u.s., they have a missile and if they wanted to they could fire
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it in that direction, and for the first time since world war ii people in japan and children waking up to the sound of this. [ alarm sounding ] >> yep, those are air-raid sirens and people got messages on their phone and seek shelter and terrifying that schools are having duck and cover drills and people are getting notices in the event of a nuclear attack. now they are hearing rhetoric from north korea just in the past few days threatening to sink the islands of japan using in north korea's words the bomb of skwraou che, that being their ruling ideology. and they said they will not
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buckle to the pressure of sanctions. and one failed and one succeeded and south korea said those could have hit the airport right there in the capital. i was just there yesterday and there was a commercial flight that flew out from the airport shortly after that missile launched. it shows north korea confident, they think they have a missile that won't blow up and fall down on their own city and on their own people, and still not enough to ease the fears here. >> stay with us. let's bring in cnn political analyst, david gregory, and a columnist for "the daily beast." they may have the capacity in north korea to build an h bomb? >> yes, that was yesterday. the head of the strategic
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command said this was probably an h bomb. >> not last night but the one prior to that? >> the september 3 detonation. >> we have north korea making accelerated progress. what concerns me enough is not their technical achievements, but it's their defiance. they saw china and russia water that down and they are pretty confident, so they are going to say whatever they want and do whatever they want. this was extremely provocative arcing it over japan. >> david gregory, about donald trump's response. he seems to have tempered it since his fire and fury comments weeks ago. yesterday he gave a more measured responses, and i don't know if we have it, and we are working on different things, and i can't tell you what i am working on, but believe me the f people in this country will be very safe.
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what do you hear? >> i think president trump wants to work with china and south korea and japan on a couple of levels, to keep pushing for more measures to further inflict damage on the north korean economy, and pushing china in a position where it might be willing to do more, and maybe this is trying to give north korea a little bit of room to negotiate on some kind of freeze. now, you know, perhaps the north wants to exact certain concessions and keeps firing this missiles to demonstrate what it can actually do to get a better result in the negotiation. but there's another piece. i talk to lawmakers who say, look, there's probably going to be a preemptive strike on the part of the united states, and maybe they will intercept one of the missiles or destroy the capacity, and that's an extremely dangerous option. perhaps the administration wants
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to say to china and south korea saying, look, we can't sit back and be toyed with like this, and in the face of the defiance, we will try to ratchet up the sanctions piece of it, and we will let you know this gets more and more unacceptable. >> will, we keep saying in our introductions, this just after the president of the united states gave the fire and fury talk, and how does that resonate to north korean ears when the president of the united states says we are bringing it to you if you bring it to us? >> it reinforces what north korea's regime has told its citizen for decades, the united states a threat and looming at their doorstep waiting to start the next war.
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their citizens are told that america started the korean war and the u.s. wants to drop a nuclear bomb on north korea. when their government says we have no choice but to develop these weapons to protect you and protect our way of life, and if people know it's a authoritarian system and a different type of life, they still feel that perhaps that alternative is better than the evil americans coming in and nuking them, and people will say that they hear what president trump is saying and that just reinforces that the u.s. is a bully with what they consider a hostile policy. this is really what has represent the north korea regime in control, even in the hardest years of the famine when people were dying of starvation, this persistent threat from the united states kept people somewhat unified, and that and beautif
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brutal force on those that descend. they say they are prepared to go through hard times before. >> what do you think about the timing of this? is it a mistake to think that kim jong-un was monitoring the news in the u.s. for the past three weeks and felt that all the hurricanes had perhaps knocked him off of the headlines? >> that's what i am sure he was doing. he was very quiet during irma. we know north korea propaganda is them watching because they said they would put the rest of the u.s. underwater after harvey. this is something that is defiant and i think it was a mistake, because we have, you know, perhaps another secure council resolution and this time the united states may say we are not going to water it down or
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delay it, and we will force your hand and see if you want to veto it. it will be a different attitude on the part of the state department. tillerson said china and russia have to make direct action which means, if they don't, we will. >> will, do you have a take on this? >> china and russia are not going to support anything in the u.n. security council they feel would destabilize north korea. this missile was no different than the one launched a couple weeks ago. and if that did not lead them to the travel ban or cause them to ground north korea's only airline, this missile test is not going to do it. russia, if anything, is looking to trade more with north korea to fill in the gaps left by china as china starts to crack down further. i saw the ship that goes from russia to the north korea coast, bringing workers and supplies and some argue bringing other
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things we don't know about. i see this as more of the same. at this point i don't think there's a measure that will push chinese president to take action. he needs to consolidate his power and doesn't want any distraction including a destabilized north korea. >> reporting has brought that reality in different ways, and scientists from outside countries helping to control them, go there to help them. >> thank you. how should president trump respond to north korea's latest aggression? we have a congressman and former navy s.e.a.l. with us next. be r more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong. being the incredibly busy man that i am, i've asked chase sapphire reserve cardmembers to scout the world to find my next vacation.
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north korea posturing about fire and fury of its own launching another ballistic missile over japan. this is the third missile launch since president trump's fire and fury warning just last month. joining us now is republican congressman scott taylor of virginia, a former navy s.e.a.l. good to have you with us, sir. >> good to be with you. >> what do you make of match the mouth? this guy talks tough and we're going to talk tough? >> you have seen some of that and you have seen other things as well, too. you saw the aur phauda that
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steamed towards the waters earlier this year, and you have china at the table unlike before. there has been diplomatic efforts and rhetoric as well, and they definitely changed the dynamics of what is going on there and there needs to be more things that need to be done clearly. >> what is your take -- you just said china at the table more than before. we get a lot of people involved with diplomacy, and they said if china and russia wanted to be more, they would have. they don't see the threat that the u.s. does. >> that's a good point. there's a difference between china and what they could do and what they are doing. they are doing more than before. they publicly denounced them. they have stopped some imports of coal. they have, you know, went along with the u.n. security council. that being said, yes, they could do a lot more. there's no question about that. and in light of what just
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happened i think the president should visit china and when he's over there in asia, i think it would create a big symbol, i believe, as well as there needs to be more coordination between japan and south korea and the united states to shoot down a missile the next time they launch it. it's clear north korea is expediting their tests and trying to gain ground in 2017 and you have to step up the diplomatic efforts as well as other coordination. >> interesting but provocative. if you shoot down that missile what if that is seen as a an aggressive act? >> it's unacceptable for any president, democrat or republican to have north korea doing what they are doing right now and it looks like they are
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increasing the length of the ballistic tests. i understand what you are saying, that's why i said you have to have an uptick in diplomatic efforts and reduce the potential of miscalculation, of course, and they are being provocative of themselves -- >> no question. >> and tokyo is reporting, folks are having to take shelter. >> we hear the war sirens and they have not been on since world war ii. >> you have the military expertise. you see shooting down a missile as a real option that should be on the table for the united states? >> in partnership with japan and south korea, absolutely. >> let me get your take on what just happened in london. the president tweeting about it and there's reporting there was a device on the explosive device, that this was a terrorists act.
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loser terrorists have been to be dealt with in the tougher manner and the internet has to be cut off. the metropolitan police say the tweets are speculation and unhelpful. your take. >> obviously it's early on in the investigation, and we need to be clear here in the united states that we will support our ally and will help them in any way possible and time is of the essence to be able to find that perpetrated the attack, and the internet says how to do it and you are seeing an uptick in these types of attacks. i think it's best for us to be able to be kcautious about what we say. >> fair assessment by our president saying they were known to the uk and they have to be
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daca. people want to see that happen. you have 800,000 young people
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brought here, no fault of their own. we're working on a plan and we'll see how it works out, and we are going to get massive border security as part of that and i think something can happen. we will see what happens. something will happen. >> that was president trump addressing his bipartisan outreach to reaching a deal protecting d.r.e.a.m.ers that marks a shift from a key campaign promise. are democrats on the verge of cutting a second deal with the president? joining us now is a congressman from texas. you believe this outreach you have seen to democrats a new strategy coming from the white house. what gives you the impression it is a thought-out strategy rather than just today making a deal with democrats makes sense and tomorrow making a deal with conservatives makes sense? >> because there are other strategy trying to run over democrats has failed, and the
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president, the republicans have gotten nothing done for the country. i specifically asked that question to the white house legislative director, and i said you ought to try this, and they said we will try this. i also told the president, listen, every major piece of legislation that passed at the last few years, at the end, not the first bill but the final version of the bill, including the harvey bill, a majority of the votes is the democrats and we are the minority, and i told that to the president and he said we will give this a try and if not we will go the other way. >> if this is the dawn of a new era, what happens when conservatives rise up and the president sees negative headlines from breitbart, and ann coulter tweets, et cetera, you are breaking your promise to
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us? >> that's the president's problem. he has to deal with a base that he created, that rhetoric he used during the campaign. the bottom line is this. bottom line is the president has seen that, you know, his promise of when he said we will win, win, win, you are going to get tired of winning, we know that has not happened. this gives us an opportunity to work in a bipartisan way. i do say this. looking at the president, studying the president, he makes everything temporary. we might just be temporarily allies and then he will shift over. i go into this with clear eyes and understand this is a temporary type of environment, but while we have this environment we will try to protect the d.r.e.a.m.ers and we will go ahead and have a tax reform that really helps the middle class and as long as we have a say so it will be bipartisan. >> congressman, what about the
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wall? we heard the president in just the past 48 hours say lots of different things as to whether or not the wall is still a must, nonnegotiable. let me play for you what he said yesterday about his strong feelings about it. >> we are looking for extreme border security and surveillance, and everything else. we also have to get the wall. it doesn't have to be here, but they can't obstruct the wall whether it's in a budget or something else when we are ready. ultimately we have to have the wall. if we don't have the wall we are doing nothing. they cannot obstruct the wall. if i don't get the wall we will become the obstruction. >> what does that mean to you? the wall is vital. they can't obstruct the wall? >> i am just amazed that here we are in the 21st century and the president and the other republicans are still using a 14
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centu century solution called the wall. the wall will cost over $21 million. all i need is a $100 fence -- i mean, a $100 ladder and that can be taken care of. we have to be smart on how we secure the border. i don't go to the border and spend five minutes and go back and say i know the border. i drink the water and breathe the air and i understand the border, so i want to see a way we can sensibly secure the border using technology, and camera and the right mixture of personnel and at the same time making sure we work with our neighbors to the south because we have a shared responsibility to secure our border. >> so in terms of the border security deal that the president appears to be hatching with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, and nancy pelosi put out a
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statement saying it would happen in the next couple of weeks. >> i was watching and listening to every word the president is telling us. first, he said it's been six days since i made my order and nothing has happened. i don't want to wait six months, i want to get it done as soon as possible. it's interesting after we spoke to the president and our leaders spoke to the president that the republicans have sent this informal committee to the house members to talk about daca, and those are good people that actually can work something with us. so at least there's movement within the house. i told the president this, mr. president, if we put daca or the d.r.e.a.m.ers bill on the floor right now it has the votes, it will pass. and i said, we have got to put that bill on the floor. he looked at me and said, henry, we will have a vote on this. you will see a bill on the floor. so again, he doesn't speak for
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paul ryan, but at least there's momentum, and all we need is a vote on the floor and we will get it done. >> thank you very much for talking to us on "new day" this morning. not all news has to be heavy. the cleveland indians have a new mantra, refuse to lose. they have a record-breaking win streak. guess what? it's alive and well. we have details in the "bleacher report." first, tony menendez is a successful guitar player, and born without arms he teaches there are no bounds. sanjay gupta as this story. >> i came into this wurborld
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the cleveland indians now own the longest winning streak in more than a century. andy scholes has more on the "bleacher report." that's quite an accomplishment. >> yeah, the indians winning their 22nd straight game, and the streak was in jeopardy in the ninth inning, and francisco comes through. and then in the tenth, jay bruce is the hero and he doubles down the line as they get the win 3-2. they are four wins away from the all-time streak sent by the 1916 new york giants. and then a quarterback celebrating his 22nd birthday
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yesterday, wearing a tux to his first start. a 49 yard touchdown in the second quarter. the only touchdown in last night's game. the texans win the low-scoring affair, 13-9. the bengals, the first to open the season with two home games and not score a touchdown. >> that young man's legs, they are looking to those to carry the team, and he better put that ball away. i guess you have to catch them before you can strip them. andy, thank you very much. >> all right. up next, we want to give you a look at what florida has been through as a reminder of the past, but also of the potential future. stay with us. ♪
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cnn was there for you during hurricane irma so you were able to watch in real time as that storm changed communities and lives. you want to take a look back at what we showed you as a reminder of what the future may bring for the people there. the urgency about irma is real. >> you said you have to see a storm of that size like a bowling ball and to finish the metaphor, what does that mean florida? >> that makes us the bowling alley. >> it's all about the pins will be knocked down? >> yes. >> and the rain has been constant. this is mother nature at her worst, and we are going to hope
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we respond with human nature at its best. we are waiting on the storm surge. these gusts are the real deal. just looks like a -- it just looks like some type of sideways cyclone coming down with the gusts. these could easily knock you off your feet. >> that's a little intimidating. the storm has moved past. it's an unusually big storm so there are more bands of weather than we might see ordinarily. the eye certainly has passed. the further we get down u.s. 1 deeper into the keys, the worse the situation is. >> nobody has done any searches there, so if there's a possibility to save a life, now is when we will find it. this is where the eye hit, and we are focusing our primary
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search efforts here. >> hey, jess, i'm alive. there's no fatalities that i know of. it's just a mess, a total mess down here. okay, honey. i love you. all right, bye. >> thanks, guys. >> i mean, that was -- woo. >> not going is the hardest part for your loved ones. >> i don't know when they are going to open the road again. all right, i'll try. love you, dad. >> the scale of what they are going to be dealing with here. we are talking about years of rebuilding. months of restoring power and water, essentials for life. >> you can't overstate the complexity of the situation and the urgency of it. that's here in the keys. it's not a world away.
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>> that's really the big reminder for people is that news is going to take us away from the story. harvey, they are still struggling. this struggle is going to be really real. the caribbean, and the keys will not be the same for a long time. >> what struck you the most from all of your days down there? >> what struck us the most? i don't know, you can ask bruce. bruce our floor manager was with us. >> our floor director was it was the satellite phone, and -- >> the need in america, you never think anybody has those types of needs. but the first responders don't get enough credit. and the idea they leave their own families, and scott beam, his house was messed up and he had to leave to help everybody
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else. they are a special brand of people. >> i think you made that evidence in the pieces. it was great to see them and all of the sacrifice they make. >> blowing in the wind is a violation of man law. >> you did not budge. it was like you had cement shoes on. >> i had no shoes. >> you were laughing at the wind. >> it smacked me like a naughty child. up next some good stuff. it was an awful the white house could not refuse. this 11-year-old will mow the white house lawn today. why? you will meet him next. so was your doctor's appointment at a steakhouse?
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weed whacker and he'll do that for no charge. >> today is the big day. a boy wrote that letter to the president and president trump granted his wish. the sixth grader will today mow the white house lawn. frank, fx, i will call you that because that's your nickname. he joins us from the white house. how are you doing? >> good. >> why did you want to mow the lawn of the white house? >> well, i always wanted to do something big, and so why not we just start here? this seems like it is the perfect example. >> i agree with you. go big or go home. that's what you are doing. let's talk about this. you do this for a living, right, for your town in falls church, virginia. how much do you charge to mow a lawn there? >> i charge $8. >> for the whole lawn? >> yeah.
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>> okay. how much are you going to charge for the white house? >> zero. >> frank, you have thought this out because the president could probably pay you more than $8. >> well, my dad said just do it for free, and i was like, fine. and that's where it's going to go. >> let's talk about what equipment you are using. i know you are an expert at this, and you offered to bring your own equipment at the white house and they said they rather you use the park service equipment, and are you going to have a push mower or rider, what are they going to give you? >> i don't know. but what i do know, they are going to give me something and i will mow with that. >> what if they give you a weed whacker or something like that? >> i am also going to do weed
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whacking, and i will mow and weed whack the white house and rose garden, and they are going to take the stuff from me, and then that's how it's going to work, i think. >> okay. i get it. you are not going to do the entire grounds. that's good. there are rules against child labor for too long, but you are going to mow the rose garden, and that's right outside the president's window. do you think you will have a chance to meet president trump? >> sorry, i can barely hear you. >> sounds like there's already a lot of lawn equipment up and running. do you think you will have a chance to meet the president today? >> i'm not sure. >> if you meet him, what will you say to him? >> it depends. like, so it would actually depend on what he would ask me, and then i will answer that.
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>> yep, yep, understood. all right, well, i would just say reconsider the not charging him $8, because it sounds like you will have a full day of landscaping on your hands. but fx, great work, best of luck to you. we can't wait to talk to you again. thank you so much for being with us on cnn. >> you, too. >> time for cnn "newsroom" with poppy harlow and john berman now. the breaking news, a terror attack in london. an improvised explosive device set off on a london commuter train during the heart of rush hour. we have new video taken moments after the blast showing what is left of an apparent bucket bomb. >> witnesses tell us this morning they heard an explosion and what followed was panic and screaming and a scramble to escape the nation. this morning 22 people in the hospital and hundreds of police are on the hunt for the


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