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in london. we have our senior international correspondent nema elbagir on the scene. stand by the president did come out to address something completely different, john, and in just a few seconds you will hear what the president said, a short response, but responding after that tweet this morning on london. let's listen to the president. >> mr. president, any reaction to london, the terror attack? >> no. it's a terrible thing. going and going, and we have to be very smart, we have to be very, very tough. we're not nearly tough enough. that is just an absolutely terrible thing. in fact, i'm going to call the prime minister right now. >> [ inaudible ]. >> yes. i have. numerous things happening, including north korea. and going right now [ inaudible ].
>> we have to be tougher. we have to be smarter. thank you. >> the president say we have to be tougher, we have to be smarter. he is calling british prime minister theresa may. the pictures of the boy moog the lawn has to do with the young kid from virginia who wanted to mow the white house lawn. the president talking about serious issues, namely this bombing in london. he did ruffle feathers with statements earlier this morning. let's go to the ground, nema in london. explain what happened in the state of the investigation? >> the investigation is still ongoing. the british prime minister has said they're going to keep the threat level at critical, that's the second highest, but not take it to severe, which would have meant that they believe that an attack was imminent, an attack currently is still, though, highly likely. the investigation is centered around this manhunt and their concerns after the discovery of
a timer on the device. it was a very crude-looking device, but the timer really is what's ringing alarm bells. this was intended to cause much more havoc. that's the working assemion of the british security sources we've been speaking to. this could have been much worse. those who survived the attack tell us it was really practically miraculous that this device went off just as the train was arriving at the station in parsons green and the doors were opening. so people were able to flee. much of those 23 injured are actually just from flash burns, as opposed to what would have been the horror of a pileup within a concealed off train carriage. police here, though, not particularly pleased with president trump's tweets this morning and his speculation as they're calling it that this was undertaken by someone who was known to the police force. we asked the london mayor sadiq ch khan of what he thought of the president's tweets. he denied having knowledge of
them but you could tell he was unimpressed at this time when all of his energies were going towards keeping london safe -- >> right. >> when it came to keeping london safe he was being distracted. let's take a listen to what theresa may had to say. >> i never think it's helpful for anybody to speculate on what is an ongoing investigation. as i've just said, the police and security services are working to discover the full circumstances of this cowardly attack and to identify all those responsible. >> reporter: it's a difficult balance at the best of times as you well know to keep both the public safe and keep hold of information that could be useful for those you're seeking an the people that we're talking to here in the british government, they don't feel that the president has been particularly helpful with them kind of maintaining that balancing act. back to you. >> not helpful, particularly low bar when dealing with a terror investigation. nima, thank you so much. we will come back to this story in a moment.
a lot going on. the same united nations security council that slammed north korea with new sanctions on monday is holding urgent consultations this afternoon on north korea. why? a new missile launch overnight. >> this one as you see, the trajectory of it right there flew over japan, even higher and further than the missile that north korea tested 2 1/2 weeks ago. in between those tests pyongyang tested its most powerful nuclear device by far. our ivan watson is in seoul, south korea, which responded to the latest provocation with a show of its own force. ivan, what can you tell us? >> yeah. this latest north korean missile launch triggered something we haven't really seen before, which was a tit for tat missile launch coming from its neighbor to the south. south korea, which announced that about six minutes after the north korean missile went up into the air, that the south koreans fired two of their own ballistic missiles that they identify. one of these malfunctioned and
didn't get very far. but again, this a new measure that the south koreans were clearly prepared for and they've had a lot of practice because the north koreans have fired no less than 21 missiles since last february, all of them banned according to multiple united nations security council resolution, so they were clearly preparing for this measure. the missile itself, that the north koreans fired, it flew to an altitude of 480 miles, 2300 miles in distance, over sdwjapa triggering air raid sirens there and warnings for people to take cover. that would put it within range of the u.s. island of guam. though it wasn't fired in the direction of guam, something that's probably very worrisome to american citizens on that island right now. poppy and john. >> all right. ivan watson in south korea thanks so much. we are expecting to hear from the secretary of state rex
tillerson who said existing u.n. sanctions are a floor. not a creel. the ceiling. we will let you know if he makes news. in the meantime cnn's barbara starr joins us to get a sense of what the administration is saying. barbara? >> well, you know, we haven't really heard substantively from the white house yet about all of this. the secretary of state, the official out the most on this subject, and he issued a statement last night, going into some detail. while he's speaking let's go back and just review what he said last night and i want to quote secretary tillerson. he said, these touchdown provocations only deepen north korea's diplomatic and economic isolation. united nations security council resolutions, including the most recent unanimous sanctions resolution, represent the floor, not the ceiling, of the actions we should take. we call on all nations to take new measures against the kim regime, china and russia must
indicate their intolerance for these reckless missile launches by taking direct actions of their own. putting the onus right again on china and russia to try and pressure them to pressure north korea. but look, the bottom line remains unchanged, it does not appear at this point that there is any real deterrence action to kim that is going to make him back off this program. he is well aware that the united states is leery of military action out of concern north korea, if the u.s. took action, would immediately launch a counter attack against the south. he knows that. but the u.s. really trying to make kim understand he could not survive if he were to attack the u.s. john, poppy? >> barbara starr at the pentagon for us as secretary tillerson is speaking live, barbara, thank you. let's discuss all of this. david is here, cnn global affairs analyst and retired air
force colonel cedric lleyton. what do you make of the choice of words, deliberate choice, from secretary tillerson a floor not a ceiling, perhaps the ceiling that the u.s. wanted to reach at the u.n. was shot down by russia and china, and they have veto power and can do that on these sanctions. >> that's the problem russia and china are not cooperating. the great sort of, you know, bromance between president chi and president trump has not evolved and north korea knows that. i also fault north korea here. this is an outrageous test, the ballistic missile, the nuclear test, the hydrogen bomb unprecedented and a dangerous situation because north korea doesn't seem to understand how dangerous these provocations are. >> the secretary could talk about floors and ceilings, colonel, but kim jong-un says you can throw the house at us and it doesn't really married. we're going to keep on doing what we're doing here in this latest missile, you know, the trajectory went 2,000 miles certainly enough to reach guam. it seems intentionally designed to poke the finger in the eye of the rest of the world? >> absolutely.
and i think that, you know, this is one of those situations where you look at what the north koreans are doing and what they're going to do next and it's a very clear it's in line with what david is saying. we are looking at a country that really doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks. they are going to do this because they get the most leverage out of this. they also are basically positioning themselves to negotiate with us in a way that in their eyes will make them an equal of the united states. that is what they've wanted for many, many years. >> i want you since we have you both here to weigh in on the london terror attack if you would. david rohde to you, the president tweeted out what is nothing more than as far as we've been -- we can tell pure speculation before anyone has identified who these attackers or attacker was in london on the train, he called them loser terrorists, saying that they were in the sights of the scotland yard. theresa may, the prime minister, saying it's never helpful for
anyone to speculate what is an ongoing investigation. the president said on the lawn he is going to call theresa may. there is a history here, too, between this president and london when it comes to terror attacks. >> look i want to be fair, president trump has talked about north korea and it's a huge problem. it's the biggest security issue for the united states. he has no strategy on terrorism. calling people name saying they're losers, we need to be tough and smart is not a strategy, and he's not connecting with ter reis may and world leaders on this. he's failing i think on the terrorism front. >> and colonel, what the british prime minister seems to be saying right now is you don't have our back the way we want you to have our back in our time of need right here. how might that complicate the investigations and these things that are necessary with this relationship? >>. >> it could have a huge effect. i've worked with various british agencies in the past and i know some people who are working cases like this and it is a very difficult thing to do anyways. the last thing you need is to
have somebody from a sensible ally give you a poke in the ribs like this. what they really want is support and they want to make sure that the united states can provide them with intelligence, with data, with the kinds of things that you need in order to really put everything together, put the jigsaw puzzle together in a way that will apprehend the people that did this or the person who did this. >> david rohde, colonel cred trick leighton thank you for weighing in on north korea and the london terror attack. politics, blaming both sides. the president not just standing by his original charlottesville remarks, but stating them out loud once again. plus, the democrats, how much pull do they have? just months after some democrats called to unseat nancy pelosi, the house minority leader seems to be gaining influence with the president. >> after irma what has become a ghost island, all 1800 residents
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his car. prosecutors accused him of planting a revolver to justify the shooting. the judge says the state, quote, failed in its burden of proof, just a few eex ago a vigil held for smith in anticipation of the verdict. some predicted there would be mass protests if the officer was not convicted. smith's fiancee has urged calm. >> all right. at the top of the hour, president trump holds a conference call with jewish leaders ahead of the holy days, an annual presidential call, but this year some of the rabbis are b boycotting it after the president's response on charlottesville. the president defended his controversial remarks and tripled or quadrupled down on them again. sara is at the white house with more. what did the president say? >> good morning, poppy. you would think that president would be focused on tax reform and immigration, and focussed on any number of the big agenda items but somehow instead
president trump has reinvigorated this debate around his equating violence on both sides in charlottesville. he reiterated the comments. listen to what he said. >> i think especially in light of the advent of antifa, if you look at what's going on there, you have really bad dudes on the other side. a lot of people have written gee, trump might have a point. >> the president clearly not backing down from his previous assessment of violence on both sides. that was something that drew widespread condemnation. in fact, an espn host labeled president trump a white supremacist. today, trump was fuming on twitter and one of his targets was espn. he tweeted, espn is paying a really big price for its politics and bad programming. people are jumping it in record numbers. apologize for untruth. back to you. >> sara murray, thank you so much. want to talk about this and actually put it in a bigger
perspective here. joining us jason miller, political commentator, senior communications officer for the trump campaign and hilary rosen cnn political commentator and democratic strategist. we have the comment about charlottesville from the president yesterday, and we have new statements from the president this morning on immigration saying immigration cannot be allowed to be part of a day, criticizing espn and the media and political correctness in response to the london attack. what he's doing here and correct me if i'm wrong, is he's trying to perhaps tend to his base, send messages out to his core supporters, at a time when he is doing something they do not like, which is reaching across the aisle to nancy pelosi and chuck schumer on the issue of d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> i would disagree. i would say the president is addressing the issues individually across the board. take, for example, the issue of border security. as it ties in as we see the terrorism attack in london this morning. it's very important that we go and get extreme vetting in
place. it's important we go and institute this temporary travel restriction as we can make sure we get this improved system in place with the countries that have been designated. i think the president quite frankly is just going out there and saying what's on his mind and saying we have to take serious steps to do something about our national security and you know what he can't let political correctness get in the way. >> you're shaking your head, why? >> it feels to me that this is why people aren't trusting donald trump. because he says something that he feels like is going against good news, good come, whether that was on charlottesville, this what is they're telling me i have to say, i'm going to make a deal with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer on the debt, or i'm going to show compromise on daca, but then he gets push back and he tries to undo it. then he tries to assure his base, no, i really still do believe this, even though i said i believe this. and this is just happens over and over again. so you can say that this is
about kind of consistent behavior but i think this makes it extraordinarily difficult for people to trust the president and work with the president on real solutions. >> seems to me, hillary, in this case he's saying two things are separate. what he's not writing about, he's written about six different subjects. >> one of them is not daca. >> still leaving that out there this notion he has reached or willing to reach some kind of deal that will upset his base is out there, so he throws all this other, you know -- these other to his base to keep them happy. >> i think that's right but if you are in the house and it's your job now to start an immigration bill, what do you write? because he's said what he wants but then tells his base before, no, no, no, i'm going to work with you and be focused on being aggressive on immigration. so i think the problem is, is that the inconsistent messages to the hill mean that they have no idea what the president would
actually sign. it makes it difficult to write legislation. >> i think a lot of folks are looking at what the president is doing as far as reaching across the aisle and trying to find some kind of bipartisan agreement, and saying good job. heck, you saw rush limbaugh praise the president for some of his outreach for doing this. i think as we talk about daca in particular -- >> keep trying to undo what he said. >> i think he's a dealmaker trying to put something together. i think he's trying to put pressure on republicans on capitol hill. knowing that if he doesn't put pressure on them now, they're going to wait this six months and then put something terrible together at the end to try to shove in front of him, probably that doesn't have the border security measures he wants in there. >> jason, strategist like you, have done quite well running campaigns against nancy pelosi. even when they're not campaigns against nancy pelosi, she ends up in the ads, right. >> saying that out loud -- i love it. so many fond memories. >> does it make it harder for you and folks like you, conservative strategists, now
that the president is bff with nancy pelosi? >> i wouldn't go to say they're that type of buddies. i love the fact that former speaker pelosi is elevated back in the news. >> in all seriousness does it make it harder? >> i don't think so. it does show that the president is willing to reach out and work with people and most folks when you get outside of the beltway fighting and back and forth would like to see our president work with people from the other party. . . but look as it comes around to next year, here's the problem for pelosi and schumer. their party has no ideas. they have nothing. their polling has shown -- >> it's their idea being passed right now. >> supporting their ideas and so i think big picture here is going to be the test because congress is going to recess soon. we'll see what happens with daca, whether they get a deal or whether they kick this can down the road which i suspect they may do because the republicans are unhappy with the president. the big picture is, do these house republicans start to run away from the president next year when the campaign starts in
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are getting reaction from around the world. >> we are. later this afternoon the united nations security council will hold another urgent meeting on the launch. will ripley is in tokyo following the developments and once again, you're just returning from north korea. this is the second such launch over japan in 2 1/2 weeks? >> yeah. i just flew out yesterday from the airport where they launched this missile from. in fact, there was a commercial flight a few hours after the missile launch reportedly. north korea confident they can fire this thing over their capital and it's not going to break apart and fall down. that's little reassurance for the people in hokkaido in japan who had a missile over their homes heard air raid sirens one against. this is the first time since world war ii parents are hearing messages and tell them they need to seek cover in sturdy buildings. frightening for people in japan, the only country hit not once but twice by nuclear bombs in 1945. north korea threatening to sink
the island with a nuclear bomb and threatening the united states saying economic pressure will not stop them from developing these weapons of mass destruction and it's noteworthies this missile traveled 2300 miles and pointed south would have put it by guam the u.s. territory that north korea has threatened repeatedly. >> you have been knee deep in this subject for years, frankly, and in the last few weeks putting together what i hear is a remarkable special that airs tonight. tell us about it? >> well, you know, often we're in north korea reporting about missile launches or the nuclear test and driving in the van and look out the window and think that would be a great story if we can pull over and talk to those people as we're rushing to an interview or some other location and we actually had the rare opportunity to spend 15 days in the country and stop the van and get out and have unscripted, unstaged moments. we're under the constant supervision of government minders. they restrict what we can film, but we were able to break out of that mold for the first time really ever and have
unprecedented moments that were not staged by the north korean government like this one. ♪ in north korea, government minders watch our every move and restrict what we can film. even if this is what we want to see. high school students horsing around at the beach. i can't help but wonder, what do they actually know about america? are you an nba fan? >> no. i just wear it to play sports. >> have you ever heard of portland? >> haven't heard of it. >> have you ever seen any american movies or heard any american music? >> no. >> ever heard of facebook or twitter or instagram? >> no, not at all. >> reporter: these teens have been told americans act and look scary. >> what would you expect from an american? what would you expect an american to be like? >> translator: big nose with a hairy chest. >> big nose and hairy chest.
>> i don't have a hairy chest. do i have a big nose? >> translator: with a nose like that, it is sort of. >> have you ever met an american before? >> they become visibly uncomfortable when they learn i'm an american. i'm the first one they've ever met. >> i won't interrupt your game. thank you very much. it was nice to meet you guys. >> it's really important when people are watching tonight that they read between the lines. people are going to say things that sound remarkably similar from the children to the older senior citizens. this is because they're force fed the government line from crade toll grave. but i think people are going to walk away from this hour really having learned something new about north korea. it's the first time in cnn history we've are traveled from the demilitarized zone from the coast to the mountainous border region near china through rural areas. the pictures themselves will be things people haven't seen and i'm really excited for people to watch tonight. >> i have never heard a discussion like that with a reporter in north korea, will. >> ever. >> that was fascinating. >> thank you for doing it. and your entire team that was
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a hot mic on the senate floor perhaps a little bit like being a fly on the wall in a meeting between chuck schumer and nancy pelosi and president trump. listen to this. >> here's what i told him. i said mr. president, you're much better off if you can sometimes step right or left. if you have to step in one direction you're boxed. it will work out and make us more productive. he likes us.
he likes me anyway. >> now, if he likes us, us means chuck schumer and nancy pelosi. they are both engaged in these discussions with the president. they did it on the budget deal and now they may be working out a deal for d.r.e.a.m.ers as well. joining us now to discuss democratic congressman tim ryan of ohio. congressman, thanks for being with us. we should note you're not just any democratic congressman, you are a democratic congressman who sought to unseat nancy pelosi as your democratic leader so along those lines, let's just ask you, do you approve of this negotiating she is doing with the president of the united states? >> absolutely. absolutely. i mean, we came to d.c. to solve problems and i think it's great that there's a dialog going on and i trust nancy pelosi to negotiate on behalf of the democrats. i've watched her work very closely in her leadership team. when we were in the majority -- and she is a very skilled negotiator and i have all the
confidence in the world having her in that room. >> okay. you were on with us not that long ago and you talked to us while you were running for her seat, and you told our colleague don lemon in some parts of the country you believe nancy pelosi is more toxic than donald trump. do you still think that's the case and do you still want her job? >> well, you know, i'm not going to get into this. she has been elected our leader and she is again negotiating on our behalf and again very skilled at that and talented at that and we have all the confidence in the world she could make good deals on behalf of the democrats. i'm going to leave it at that. i said my peace over the course of the last six or seven months. we're going to move into an election season here and we all, you know, it's got to be all hands on deck. we do have newer, younger members rising up. i don't have any interest in running for house leadership at this point. i mean who knows where i am in
18 months or two years, but right now, i don't have an interest in doing it. >> okay. >> but the key is, for democrats we have to run and win in off year elections. that's the problem we have. we get excited for presidentials, we don't get as excited for off year and we have to run hard in '18 for governors races and the house and senate raise in '18. >> let's not talk about nancy pelosi but let's talk about president donald trump. what do you make of his politics over the last few weeks? do you still see him as a conservative? >> yeah. i was one of the people who never really believed that he was a conservative. i felt like he thought he could run easier in a republican primary. i always felt he was more of an independent kind of, you know, taking issue with both political parties. and that was part of his allure and why he won. i think what's happened is, he's recognized what i think a lot of
americans have recognized, is that the republican party is in shambles. i mean they can't get anything done. they cannot govern. i think it's going to be hard for him. all of these deals being made and talked about, they're great to talk about but at some point they have to go through congress. article 1 is a son of a gun. i mean, so it's got to get through the house and senate and paul ryan and mitch mcconnell sitting there, so it's great to have the press conference and say hey, we've got the structures of a deal, but you got to go get the tea party caucus in the house and those people aren't in agreement with a lot of what he's saying and what the deal looks like. >> thank you for the friday morning rhyme, congressman. representative gutierrez of illinois said something interesting that john pointed out earlier. he said why are we discussing border security. i thought we were talking about daca so already you see the slippery slope of this conversation. he went on to say i hope and pray that pelosi and schumer are more sophisticated and smarter than everyone else that has been
duped by donald trump. does he have a point? >> well, you always got to be careful. i mean trump has a 30, 40-year history of making deals and not keeping his word. we talked a lot about this during the campaign of union members who never got paid, waitresses, waiters, bar tenders, lureawyers and accounts that never got paid from donald trump. he went bankrupt three or four times. he has a long list of things that he did in his lifetime that shows he can't keep his word. luis, who is a great advocate, one in the best in the country for daca, he has a good point. we have to be careful. i do believe that nancy pelosi has the wherewithal and understanding to take on donald trump and understand where he's coming from but he's right, you to be careful with this guy, because again, he doesn't always keep his word. >> congressman tim ryan of ohio,
great to have you with us. the school house rock lesson, article 1 is a son of a gun. appreciate that. >> that's a little update on i'm just a bill, i guess. >> there you go. moment of levity this morning. your moment of zen. thank you, have a nice weekend. ahead for us, giving hope to an island reduced to rubble by hurricane irma. we sat down with actor robert de niro, his pledge to rebuild barbuda. our conversation with him is next. . check it out! self-appendectomy! oh, that's really attached. that's why i rent from national. where i get the control to choose any car in the aisle i want, not some car they choose for me. which makes me one smooth operator. ah! still a little tender. (vo) go national. go like a pro.
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devastated the economic engine for so much of the caribbean and florida. tourism if you look at the island of barbuda 95% of the structures were destroyed. the entire island of 1800 people was evacuated. not a single person is living on barbuda today. but hollywood legend robert de niro is on a mission to rebuild that island, an island where he was just about to break ground on a huge hotel venture. he said it's incumbent on everyone to help and weighed in on the moment in america. will we come together or are further divided and his message for president trump. >> your mission today is the island of barbuda after irma. what does it mean to you? >> well, i've been working on a project for a few years, it's an ambitious project that will take a long time, but we were about to start with investors and people and so on and so i'm involved with the people on the
island and so feel a responsibility that i'm there, to help everyone and to get everything up and running. >> before we get to the project, the hotel that you're building in barbuda, let's talk about the people. >> well the people i don't know that well. i mean i've interacted with them and met them and i go down for a day or two and i come back, but the people are very nice. >> the prime minister of barbuda who i know you've been on the phone with, prime minister brown, quite a bit since this tragedy, told us, 95% of the structures on the island, the homes, the buildings, devastated. make the case that this matters for americans, wealthier nations to help? >> of course. people have been calling me and offering help in certain ways. people come out of the woodwork that you never knew were involved in this sort of thing but i have some relationship with. so we're sort of getting all
that together and figuring out how people can actually really be of help. >> because the challenge becomes, as you know, when the news cameras are no longer pointed at it, when the headlines are no longer ooirm, when the spotlight is no longer there, the devastation remains. how do you get people to continue ing care? >> you have to have the people who are -- you to keep -- it's not easy. and i don't even know with myself what i'm going to be asked to do and do to help, but i'll be there. >> the project that you were and are working on is a luxury hotel. tourism is the lifeblood of these islands. >> yes. >> it's everything. it's the economic engine. without it they lose so much. barbuda doesn't have that now. >> right. >> as you watched what the devastation, you know, in real time over the weekend, did you ever question, should we build
this anymore? >> no. because i mean as devastating as it is, and as terrible as it is, it will come back. you know, that's -- that's not going to be stopped. so we want to be part of that. >> you and your team down there had been working not just on the hotel, but also on creating a 90% renewable energy program. >> yes. >> for barbuda. is there an onus on those who have wealth, who develop, like you, to do more outside? >> well, you to -- our intention is to help the island. the island has to be healthy and back up and running, at the same time what we're doing with the hotel, that's great, but the most important thing are the people first and then the hotel and it will all -- it can be simultaneously, but it's a big endeavor. it's just -- it's a beautiful place. and it's quiet and the people
are nice and it's been kind of unspoiled in a certain way, it's been one of those places that's unique. you don't find places like this anymore as far as i know. >> so barbuda's prime minister told "time" magazine this week, quote, we have no doubt this is a result of global warming and sea level rise and climate change. the white house came out this week and said, when asked about this, that it would need to conduct, quote, a trend analysis to determine if there's a connection. any thoughts? >> well, i think we all know the feeling from the white house, that they're not too in favor of the idea of global warming and so we have to deal with that. people will deal with it because no matter what the white house wants to do, the world sees it. there are changes. we're not certainly helping it by ignoring it. we could, at the least,
exacerbating the situation. and for the administration to turn their back on that is disgusting. >> i think we have seen some of the most beautiful parts of this country in terms of the heart of this country come to the fore in the past three weeks in the devastation and recovery of harvey and the same with irma. this comes at a time of such division. >> yeah. >> in america. and it seems to me like, and i wonder what you think, that people are yearning for togetherness? >> yeah. yeah. and wasting everybody's time about being a wall between mexico and the states is, you know, come on, we need a lot of money for this. and we're not -- we're paying for that wall somehow later on they'll find a way to say we have to pay for it but the mexicans aren't going to pay for it, just on principle.
and so we really -- we need to really focus on other things, harvey, irma, i mean total devastation. come on. >> it seems like a moment to me where america makes a choice, do we come together or do we separate further from one another? >> well, you would like everyone to come together and maybe we will. i don't know. i mean i -- as far as trump goes he hasn't changed and i was always -- i'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he'll change and do something. he hasn't done anything as far as i can see that changes from who he really is. >> what about daca? >> there you go. i mean what about it? >> he says they're going to get daca legislation through congress, the d.r.e.a.m.ers will stay here? >> so he put it on to them. >> okay. >> right? so in six months we'll see what he does. if it's not dealt with within those six months. >> if you were to make -- >> we'll see. >> if you were to make a bet,
we're six here five or six years down the road, is this country more together or farther apart? >> maybe some mir rack be includes things will happen, where even trump will do something surprising. i don't think so. you never know. i'll then say okay. i give you that, but i don't think so. >> i spent a lot of time along the rust belt and kentucky, in places that where people put all of their hope in this president. >> yeah. >> and their livelihood depends on his success. >> right. >> do you feel like hollywood, you know, those living on the coast like i do, like you do, are too disconnected, we're too disconnected from that pain? >> i understand that people feel -- even i am hesitant sometimes to endorse somebody because i don't want to be just an elite hollywood person doing that, but many of us feel that the right thing has to be done for people. and we really believe that.
someone like trump doesn't really believe that. he can give lip service to it, but he doesn't really believe it. >> they disagree with you and tell me, because i've sat with them and had dinner with them and they say he gets me, and he is standing up for me and he is putting america first. >> you know what the best con artist in the world say, i'm putting you first, and what happens. >> he is -- the president of the united states of america, do you want him to succeed? >> of course i want him to succeed. i don't believe that he will. >> the number one piece of legislation you would like to see him support? >> the daca is one. >> okay. >> so if he -- >> daca. >> signs daca legislation to get d.r.e.a.m.ers to stay here you will be hopeful? >> yeah. because he will -- his action will have spoken louder than his big mouth and words because all he does is open his mouth and talk and insult people and put them down. you can't do anything.
that's inexcusable. >> his politics are clear and what he and everyone is hoping is that the recovery for barbuda and for florida and for texas, after these hurricanes, is so far beyond politics. >> that's a guy who doesn't do a lot of interviews, doesn't talk a lot. it goes to show how committed he is to getting the assistance to barbuda, that he was willing to give you that focus. >> his team said that they will, as they rebuild and build this hotel, they want to give every barbudaen a job looking for one. they're hoping. >> fascinating discussion. >> we have a lot going on. robert de niro could take home his first emmy this weekend in contension for "wizards of lies," hbo has 22 nods for west world, 22 nominations "saturday night live," most nominations it has received in a single season. breaking news out of central london. a manhunt under way after an improvised device explodes on a rush hour train.
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this is cnn breaking news. >> hello. i'm kate bolduan. we are beginning with breaking news. a terrorist on the loose in london after leaving a homemade explosive device on a crowded subway. the city's mayor says a manhunt is right now under way. the video, this video we will show you, shot moments after the explosion and what's being called a crude bucket bomb. fire still burning inside. witnesses describe a terrifying blast ripping through the commuter train injuring several people. listens to this. >> on the next carriage, heard the bang and saw the