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at 8:00 with steven colbert. please tune in tonight at 10:00. will ripley with exclusive access to all things north korea. i'm brooke baldwin. it's been a day. have a wonderful weekend. "the lead with jake tapper" starts now. thanks, brooke. is the trump administration preparing for war? "the lead" starts right now. there is a military option. that's the word from the white house today after north korea thumbed its nose at the world yet again launches yet another missile over japan. this went further than it would take to get to guam. terrorism and tweets. trump tweets, earning a scolding from the british prime minister. why did the president not wait for the facts? plus, right now protesters and police clashing in st. louis, missouri. an all too familiar scene after
a former police officer is found not guilty in the death of an african-american man. welcome to "the lead," everybody. i'm jake tapper. today, top administration officials came before cameras and used some of the strongest language we have yet heard about the possibility of them launching a military strike on north korea. the united states ambassador to the u.n., nikki haley, said she's not afraid to put things in the hands of the pentagon and the national security adviser to the president, lieutenant general h.r. mcmaster publicly referred to solving the problem with a military solution. it has been five weeks since president trump made his fire and fury threats to north korea. since then, the hermit kingdom fired two intermediate range missiles and conducted its sixth nuclear test. last night's missile was the second one to fly over japan. it was one of north korea's farthest reaching missiles to date, flying far enough to put guam within range. the u.n. security council is
right now holding an emergency closed door meeting about that missile test by north korea. cnn's barbara starr joins me live from the pentagon. barbara, what are these military options that general mcmaster referred to? and frankly, how devastating might they be for innocent civilians? >> reporter: jake, the pentagon will tell you that this is always the challenge. almost any u.s. military option against north korea that president trump might order could result in tens of thousands of deaths. sirens blair across japan. warning a north korean ballistic missile is overhead. a different kind of warning from u.s. officials. national security adviser h.r. mcmaster says time is running out for dealing with north korea. >> for those who have said and commenting about the lack of a military option. there is a military option. now, it's not what we would prefer to do. >> reporter: u.n. ambassador
nikki haley acknowledging u.n. sanctions may not work. >> i have no problem kicking it to general mattis, because i think he has plenty of options. >> reporter: u.s. military planners are looking once again at how to quickly take out north korean weapons just north of the dmz before kim could counterattack into seoul. >> there are literally thousands of tubes of artillery along the demilitarized zone aimed south, some directly at seoul. frankly, some of these artillery pieces are very simple. it's an old fashioned cannon that cannot be jammed or interdicted in any way other than with a direct strike. >> reporter: south korea's response was immediate, firing two missiles from the east coast into the pacific. missiles said to be capable of reaching north korea's launch site, though one failed in flight. the path of the north korean missile, a possible poke from
kim jong-un to president trump. the missile flew eastward for 2300 miles landing in the pacific ocean. had it flown south, the u.s. territory of guam is just 2100 miles from north korea, within the missile's range. guam had already been threatened by the kim regime. the new launch, a show of defiance to the international community. it comes just five weeks after president trump's extraordinary ultima ultimatum. >> north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury, like the world has never seen. >> reporter: beyond diplomacy and all-out war, there is another possible option. >> there could be a cyber attack that the north koreans don't even understand that it was a cyber attack from us. sometimes when you attack, you want your enemy to know that you punched them in the nose.
otherwise you want them to fall down and wonder why they fell. >> reporter: defense secretary james mattis continues to emphasize diplomacy while working on military options, not just because of the staggering death toll that could result. but a very fundamental problem. the pentagon still does not know the exact locations of everywhere kim jong-un hides his weapons. jake? >> barbara starr, thanks so much. i want to bring in mike rogers, former fbi agent. he recently returned from a visit to south korea. how concerned are the south koreans, both the south korean people and the south korean government about this current situation? >> it's odd on the streets of seoul, even with this tension level we're seeing internationally, they look at it as tuesday, jake. they said we've been putting up with this saber rattling from the north for 65 years, and we
have to go about our lives. looks like calm and every other day. government officials, on the other hand, are very concerned. the tension level, the number of increase of testing of ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons, really has the south koreans concerned. and the other piece of this is they just -- there's something called korean passing, meaning -- and they reiterated this a lot in those confidences. whatever the u.s. and its allies do, don't leave korea out of that equation. they believe their military is ready if it's needed. and they also are ready for strong diplomatic relationships and discussions with north korea. they just want to be part of that mix in the decision making. that was something that they reiterated in every official meeting that i have. >> there's been a lot of muscle flexing and hot rhetoric from the trump administration. obviously much more even from north korea. what are the south korean government officials that you
spoke with, what are they hoping to see from president trump and his administration on this issue beyond including them in the conversations? >> well, they have some political differences, as well. there are some that want to be more open and accepting to a nuclear north korea, and some that say we can't let that happen. we better put the military option on top. so there are really four options that the united states looks at. and they're all real options. they all have a different set of consequences. first is decapitation, meaning you strike the leadership, including kim jong-un and some of the senior leaders around him, take them out of the equation. the second piece is that limited strike on its nuclear capability. the ability to produce, design the people the way that they can get those problem et rockets t the launch pads. the next one down is full-on, let's get it done, take out the 8,000 artillery tubes on the
border or as many as you can, and move south korean troops over the dmz. that's all -- that's obviously a bad one. it has huge casualty counts. but they're real options and all of the things you see happening with our defense department is preparation for a real military exercise. and i think -- i know why they're doing that. they're sending a very clear signal to kim jong-un, listen, this is for real. and hopefully it does -- it goes into the last one, which is we have few diplomatic things left. we're willing to do those. but you're going to have to cooperate. i think they're trying to set the table for a stronger and a better negotiated diplomatic solution at the end of the day. >> theoretically, any of the military options you just described would set off not only the deaths of innocent people in north korea, but north korea would fire into south korea at the very least, perhaps even japan. we're talking theoretically, thousands of innocent people killed, if the military -- if
the u.s. military launches a strike. >> well, depending on which option they might take, jake, that number is much higher. there are some estimates in the millions of casualties. remember, he has the ability -- kim jong-un can launch the artillery strikes. that's 8,000 tubes. that puts an artillery round about one round for every three square foot in seoul, which is a city of 25 million people. just that alone is devastating, let alone missiles and the things that come after it, including biological and chemical, which we know that he has. so the modeling for these are not good. that's where you heard mcmaster say we do have mill mare options and we're prepared to use them. that's true. we have all of the options i just described. what we -- every person in the national security debate talks about what are the consequences of each one of those and can you mitigate it? can you stop the violence before it escalates into something full
kinetic conflict. these have been modeled ten ways to sunday about what options are possible and what respect. the south koreans just announced a decapitation brigade they're training, announcing to kim jong-un we're going to have specialized troops to take you out if we need to. >> and increased voices, a number of people like former general james clapper saying that the u.s. might have to -- the world might have to learn with a nuclear north korea because these options are so horrific. mike rogers, thank you so much. you can see mike tomorrow night on "declassified." this will deal with the arrest of cuba's most notorious spice, saturday at 9:00 p.m. eastern. another crisis in london after a subway terror attack injured dozens. and now investigators are
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an urgent manhunt is underway in the uk after terrorists detonated a bomb on the subway, injuring 29 people. a source briefed by investigators tells cnn that the attackers used the highly explosive tatp, the same material used in the 2015 paris attacks and last year's brussels bombings and in the manchester attacks back in may. a british security source tells cnn that the terrorists put a timer on the bomb. a man on the train took this photo right after the explosion. possibly a bag still on fire inside a bucket. let's go to matthew chance near the attack scene. matthew, we understand the uk has just raised its threat level?
>> reporter: yes, it has, from severe to critical, which means the authorities believe there is the possibility of an imminent attack. that, of course, talks to the fact that as yet no suspects have been detained as far as we're aware by the authorities as having carried out this latest attack here in southwest london at parson street. the search operation for the person or persons responsible is still very much underway. tonight, a massive manhunt is underway, following a rush hour bomb blast on a packed london underground train. [ inaudible ] >> people were screaming and crying. >> reporter: more than 20 people were injured in the attack. but official officials are calling it a terrorist incident. >> i texted my girlfriend, that
maybe there would be a second bomb or attacker with a gun. >> reporter: authorities say a timer was found on the device, which was a crude type of contraption known as a bucket bomb. it didn't fully detonate and cnn is learning that the device was intended to cause much greater harm that likely contains the highly explosive material tatp. >> if this was tatp, if it had gone off, you could have seen dozens of casualties, perhaps few people getting out of that train carriage alive. >> reporter: london's police are looking for anyone who has photos or video of tihe inciden, which took place at the parsons green tube station in southwest london. >> hundreds involved looking at ccv, forensic work and speaking to witnesses. >> reporter: although this is the fifth terror attack in the
united kingdom this year, london's mayor says the public should feel secure and that those involved will be caught. >> i'm reassured that the police are doing all they can to keep us safe. we recognize one of the things terrorists want to do is disrupt our way of life, and we're not going to allow them to disrupt our way of life. >> reporter: all right. well, jake, the authorities here say they're making excellent progress in their investigation, but they're not prepared to discuss various elements. they're saying there's a highly covert element to that investigation, and that they are chasing down suspects. they're also appealing repeatedly to the public for any information that's going to lead them towards an arrest. jake? >> and trump had reaction to the attack as well. we'll talk more about that later in the show. matthew chance, thank you so much. protesters are gathering in st. louis after a judge delivered a verdict in the police officer shooting of a black man. we'll go live to st. louis next.
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we're back with breaking news. protests erupting in st. louis after the acquittal of a former police officer. at least one person has been arrested in these protests. earlier today, a judge found jason stockily, a former cop who is white, not guilty in the 2011 killing of anthony lamar smith, a black man. dash cam and cell phone video were pivotal in the case. after the shooting, a camera inside the cruiser showed stockily retrieving something in a bag. prosecutors accused him of planting a gun in smith's car. stockily said he was trying to get medical aid from his bag to help smith. let's go to cnn's ryan young. ryan, only stockily's dna was on the gun found in smith's car. the evidence on its face seemed to be stacked against stockily. how did the judge come to find
him not guilty? >> reporter: well, that is exactly what people are upset about. the idea that that gun could only have one person's dna on it. there's video involved, as well. the officers heard saying "i'm going to kill that n word" and then the shooting happened. so how do you have that happen and then you see maybe a gun coming out of that bag? that's what people think. the judge says that wasn't proven by the prosecution at all. if you look back in this direction, protesters have gathered. they've been marching up and down the street. you can see the iconic arch in the distance there. and you can see young men carrying assault rifles through the street. that's not against the law because this is an open carry state, but people are walking around with guns. this has remained peaceful except for one skirmish between the police and protesters. police say they had rocks and water bottles thrown at them.
protesters say maybe water bottles but no rocks. police moved in with bikes and pepper spray and started hitting the protesters in the face. now the protesters have gathered here. we'll walk you closer. they have this circle here. it is definitely a rainbow of people who are here. they are chanting and saying they want democracy and they want changes in what's going on here. just don't forget this, jake. a few years ago we stood close to here in ferguson. so there's a lot of open wounds in this community and dealing with the police. it could be a long night. >> ryan young, the mayor of st. louis calling the verdict appalling. the president of the united states is demanding an apology over an espn anchor's tweets and now the white house is calling the decision to not suspend the anchor. that's next. it was tough getting out there on stage. i wanted to be clear.
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bombing, president trump at 6:42 a.m. eastern time took to twitter. "another attack in london by a loser terrorist. these are sick and demented people who were in the sights of scotland yard. m must be proactive." he went on to tweet -- the president's immediate public speculation about the attack and the announcement that the perpetrators were in the sights of scotland yard, whatever that meant, did not go over particularly well across the proverbial pond. asked about president trump's tweet, the british prime minister theresa may said this. >> i never think it's helpful for anyone to speculate on an ongoing investigation. >> "true or not, this is so unhelpful from a leader and our ally."
it does seem to have some limits, even after the world had seen images of wild racists, neo-nazis, and the klan marching in virginia, people carrying torches, shouting racist slogans. president trump, that was a time we saw restraint from him. >> i like to be correct. i want the facts. i wouldn't have made it sooner, because i didn't know all of the facts. frankly, people still don't know all of the facts. >> the president's response to charlottesville. he was suggesting an equivalence between the neo-nazis and those protesting them. this continues to upset wide swaths of the american public, including republican tim scott from south carolina who issued a statement that read --
>> many in the african-american community have responded to the president's take with a harsher tone. monday night, jamel hill said -- >> on wednesday, sarah huckabee sanders called those tweets a fireable offense. this is the first time that we know of in history that a white house called for the employee of a private company to be fired because he or she criticized the president. one can only imagine the response had then president obama suggested that nbc fire a certain reality television star for pushing the lie that the first african-american president had been born in africa. but i digress. this morning, president trump weighed in on this espn controversy, tweeting, espn is paying a big price for its politics and bad programming. people are dumping it in record numbers. apologize for untruth.
president trump's demand for an apology from espn is interesting, when you consider how often the president has lashed out and attacked others and did not apologize. it's interesting to hear him talk about untruths, given how many untruths he has shared and concocted. but let us address how offended the president is that an espn anchor called him a white supremacist, because that is a harsh assessment and ugly charge. here are some context which you may not be aware of. in 2012, the daily caller got their hands on a 2007 obama speech which the then senator suggested that the u.s. government deals with some crises, new orleans after hurricane katrina for example, differently because the victims are largely black. here was trump's response on twitter. obama's 2007 speech not only shows that obama is a racist, but also how the press always
covers for him. in fact, a cursory review of the twitter archive shows that president trump has called racists not only president obama, he has made that charge against black journalists bryant gumball, tavis smiley and suggested that jon stewart is a bigot and senator elizabeth war season a racist, as is the movie "django unchained" and the tv show "blackish." so in donald trump's view, these people are racists and post charlottesville, the president feels he is the one who is owed an apology. the white house doubled down today on their statement that espn's tweet is a fireable offense. i'm joined by former nfl player donte' stallworth. what is your take on the white house demanding an apology from
hill or espn? >> i think it's interesting that the president has used the power of the oval, he's used the power of the executive branch to not only intimidate and to bully his political adversaries, but he's done this to our nation's allies. he's also done this to his own staff as we have seen today with him calling jeff sessions an idiot. the president should not be calling for anyone's job because they're criticizing him. that is key characteristic of what an authoritarianism is. and the president of the united states of an open and free society should not be discussing those things. >> so his, i guess, their idea that -- where they're coming from is that that is such a horrific thing for her to say about him, that he's a white supremacist, that it just goes beyond the pale and is fireable. it is a really ugly charge, and obviously it does have some
context. i don't know what's in president trump's brain. i would never call him that. what do you think of the charge itself? >> well, i know one thing is that he has surrounded himself with white supremacists. i don't think that can be denied. and another thing that he's done is he has openly not defended people who have been victims of the neo-nazis that are -- kkk on the street in charlottesville, it took him a while to condemn those factions. when you enable those people and don't condemn them right away, they feel like they have an opening since the previous eight years that a black man has been the president of the united states, for the most part, you could probably say that didn't sit too well with these particular folks. and so then you hear them marching down the street, marching about "jews will not replace us." these are ridiculous and dangerous things.
he has not condemned those. the fact that he has not condemned those in the least tells you that he's emboldened these people. >> there was a statement on saturday and then monday and tuesday, at one point he did go out and say neo-nazis and the klan -- >> but it wasn't something that was at the forefront of his mind to come through and condemn those actions right away. to me that says a lot about what he's doing. >> let me ask you about politics and sports. anyone who is a sports fan knows that it's happened. but it usually is fairly rare. you can think about the olympic black power display, muhammad ali. but there is just a rash of politics going on right now, a lot of athletes, not just colin kaepernick, but plenty of individuals making their political voices heard. some people love it, obviously. other people might think "monday night football" is when i can get away from that and i just want to talk about the game.
what do you think? >> i'm reminded by what dr. martin luther king, jr. said. he said your moral compass should not be silent. no matter what it is. so he spoke on that, and not only i think the main motivating factor for him to say those words was muhammad ali. he spoke glowingly about muhammad ali standing up to the united states government about not going to the war in vietnam and not fighting a war when there was essentially a war going on here where he said he could not go to a restaurant and sit next to his white brothers and sisters and have dinner with them, so why would he go to vietnam? martin luther king said that. and the catalyst from him saying that was muhammad ali's actions. so people will always have negative thoughts and issues, what they want to say about athletes when they're speaking out, when you don't agree with something, i think that's the point when you really need to check your hypocrisy and
understand it works both ways. free speech works both ways, whether you agree with it or not. >> donte' stallworth, appreciate it. he's the first daughter and advise tore the president. now ivanka trump is opening up how much influence she has over her father. that story next. i count on my dell small business advisor for tech advice. with one phone call, i get products that suit my needs and i get back to business. ♪
this just in to cnn. the u.n. security council has just condemned what it calls north korea's highly provocative latest missile launch and called on all nations to enforce sanctions. we have a lot to discuss with my political panel. jen, let's take a listen at president trump speaks to u.s. members about military options when it comes to the north korean crisis. >> after seeing your capabilities and commitment here today, i am more confident than ever than our options in addressing this threat, are both effective and overwhelming. >> it's unclear if this is leading to a military strike by the u.s. against north korea, but at the very least, the rhetoric is really escalating. >> es calated but still inbound.
we saw mcmaster this afternoon at the podium, and now president trump making clear that we have the capability to respond and that -- what happened last night is north korea was reminded of the military options, they backed off. >> what do you think is the endgame? everyone would like to avoid a military confrontation, but do you think they're hoping ratcheting up this much will pressure china to cut off oil supply to korea? >> that's what most of the asia experts think and hope and the question is, do we have enough leverage on china to do it? would china do it to risk destabilizing the regime? i agree with jen, it seems that mcmaster and mattis are running this policy and trump is being a little less -- >> spontaneous? >> a little less freelancing.
>> let's turn to another tweet morning from president trump, after the london attack. he started talking about the travel ban that he has been instituting or trying to. he wrote, the travel ban into the united states should be far larger, tougher, and more specific, but stupidly that could not be politically correct. i've been trying to figure out what larger, tougher, and more specific would mean, and i think i figured it out. take a listen to then candidate trump in december of 2015. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> i'm not trying to be cute here. i think that's what he meant by larger and also more specific. do you agree? >> yes. what i found telling about nothe tweets is he's serious about
passing something on daca. i feel he's reassuring his base. i still feel strongly about the muslim ban and i'm still saying the words you want me to say on immigration, but it's giving him room to do what he wants on passing dream and daca. >> all the tweets from this morning had to be read in total as a gift packaged to his base. >> yeah. he assumes they're reassured by bluster and silly talk. on the other hand, there was an attack in london. we don't know who did it. which don we don't know if it's someone that would have been affected by the travel ban, and then to offend the british. think of north korea. you need to really -- you want to keep your allies close and you want to be sure of your
allies. the dpgratuitous nature which h offends the british, the japanese, koreans, mexico. mattis and mcmaster spend a lot of time cleaning up. i just worry over four years you can pay a pretty big price for just offending, offending, offending. you can damage the alliance structure, which is important to our security. the thing trump cares the most about, keeping terrorists out. how do you do that? cooperation with our allies. >> he's just counting on the fact of the rest of leaders will be more mature than he is. >> we are now free riding, in a sense, on the responsible leadership of theresa may and people like that. >> what's interesting also is the way that the british press
is treating his tweet about scotland yard had their sights on this terrorist or whoever it was is -- they are acting as if president trump is leaking classified information he wasn't supposed to share. i don't know that they know that to be the case. either that tweet was meaningless or that's what it meant. >> either he's making it up or he's leaking information. we already had the prime minister of our greatest ally on television saying the president of the united states is intervening in a way that is unhelpful. >> this would be the second time that the u.s. government under trump, would have shared information by the british, if that's what he was doing. >> it's just this human thing, a terrorist attack in an allied capital. you don't know whether there might be a second one in an hour, and you're just tweeting away. honestly, i don't think any of us would do that just as private citizens. it's such an inappropriate to thing, they probably weren't on
top of things. we have no idea. i don't think trump knows at this point either. >> and how much do you rely on the uk for intelligence to stop terrorist attacks. if they feel like we have this experience, if they feel like they can't be sharing this information with the united states, it's not safe, that's a dangerous place to be. >> when he worked at the white house, sean spicer accused the british equivalent of the nsa of spying on president trump on behalf of president obama. so it's almost as if in that white house it doesn't matter what you say to the british. you were involved in that, right? >> i was gone by then. >> the top secret to london to coordinate the spying. >> i was busy losing the hillary clinton campaign at that point. >> breitbart is going to turn this into a video saying this happened. thank you so much. great to have you here.
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briathe customer app willw if be live monday. can we at least analyze customer traffic? can we push the offer online? brian, i just had a quick question. brian? brian... legacy technology can handcuff any company. but "yes" is here. you're saying the new app will go live monday?! yeah. with help from hpe, we can finally work the way we want to. with the right mix of hybrid it, everything computes. welcome back in our tech lead, where one of the biggest social media sites, facebook, faces scrutiny for taking money from russian propagandist who interfered with the u.s.
election. cnn spoke to twitter about the struggle social medias face against fake news. >> in my opinion, the most fe n -- nefarious feedback loop is that it's all driven by advertising and all free, and attention is valued. and if you can generate attention, then you can get paid. the thing that we should acknowledge is that anyone selling ads, these ad driven platforms are benefiting from a lot of the fake information and misinformation and these campaigns. and they're also benefiting from people just generating attention at pretty much any cost. >> williams went on to say that tech companies went on to separate political opinions and don't believe editorial guidelines fit with their business models. now, let's turn to our pop
culture lead. we wrote the book we read in high school, but so little is known about j.d.sallinger. a new film hopes to capture one previously unexplored part of his life. the battle the world war ii veteran waged with post traumatic stress disorder. he stormed the shores of normandy, survived the battle of the bulge, married a gestapo agent and wrote "the "catcher in the rye."" j.d. sallinger became famously private following the success of his first and only novel about a jaded and rebellious teenager. and now danny strong is bringing his life story to the screen with "rebel in the rye." >> this is what inspired me to take the film. i thought it was so moving how a veteran, how someone could
experience the horrors of war, could deal with it and how they were able to, you know, take that experience and then channel it into this masterpiece. >> a 2002 documentary gave new images to sallinger. now they're being brought to life. sallinger was a member of the army's counterintelligence corps and wrote much while serving overseas. a traumatic events of war no doubt affected the author. >> sometimes i wake up and i'm screaming. >> but who talked about post traumatic stress in the 'forts? >> this is a time when people didn't know what ptsd was. it was called battle fatigue. so to see the path sallinger took, how he took up meditation and yoga and how his writing became a form of therapy.
i think it could be deeply inspiring. >> what can i do for you? >> reporter: he honed his craft with whit burnett, played in the film by kevin spacey. >> are you willing to devote your life to telling the stories? >> after fame came flooding in with ""catcher in the rye,"" he retreated to new hampshire where he did his writing until his death in 2010. >> the idea of making a movie about his life would have been, i think, horrific to him. this is the last thing he would have wanted. and i wouldn't have pursued it if he were still alive. >>sallinger made his feelings clear in 1957, saying i toyed with the idea of leaving the unsold rights to my wife and daughter as an insurance policy. it pleasures me to no end that i won't have to see the results of the transaction. tune in sunday morning to "state of the union."
nicky hailly jo ll lly -- nikki joins us. that starts at 9:00 a.m. and noon eastern. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. now over to wolf blitzer and "the situation room." have a great weekend. happening now, breaking news. terror manhunt. britain raises its threat level to critical, meaning another attack may be imminent. a manhunt is now under way after a bombing on a london subway train injures 29 people. and new york is boosting security for its own transit system. not helpful. president trump scolded after tweeting that the bombers were in the sights of scotland yard. britain's police and prime minister responding that such speculation is not helpful. within range. north korea's latest missile flight is its longest ever, putting the u.s. territory of guam w