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supporters. first, on the debt ceiling. now on daca. what's next for donald? chuck, and nancy? and are the conservative pundits right to say that he jeopardizes his base? i'll ask republican congressman steve cane and charlie dents. and the white house also taking a stand about an espn host who called the president as a white supremacist. curt schilling sees a double standard and he's here. plus, everybody is excited about the latest iphones. but are smartphones leaving the next generation into an unprecedented mental crisis? >> and 16 years after the horrors of 9/11, a heartwarming story of how the victims of two attack victims found each other and a way to heal. but first, he did it again, for the second time in two weeks, the president has reached across the aisle. he cut a deal with democrats. kept the government open, raised
the debt ceiling and paid for storm victims in that case, hurricane harvey, as a result of his dealing with chuck and nancy. senate jord leader chuck schumer and house minority leader nancy pelosi. chuck and nancy were guests at the white house. after they announced an agreement with potus to prevent daca's immigrants from deportation and without sport without funding for the wall. but that the wall will come later. the idea of a republican president and democratic congressional leaders working together has alarmed some. namely, those in the pundit clas class. breitbart gave a president who is himself known for signing nicknames his own mommicer, an nesty don. laura ingraham, dentals border
security pledges meaningless. when does american working class without real wage increase in 15 years and who send their kids to private overcrowded public schools get an nesty. and lou dobbs chimed in. and hispanic congressional leaders wand a stand-alone vote on daca not being tied to border security. but here's hopes the president listens to none of these critics and continues his new tact. for far too long, we've exceeded the political debate to allow these voices, mainly media personnel that don't give a dam about governance. they're after viewers and mouse clicks. they amplify our differences and they rely on rhetoric. senator john mccain, he gets it. remember his recent speech to senate colleagues just before he dramatically cast a thumbs down vote over repeal and replacement
of obamacare? the 80-year-old had just been diagnosed with an aggressive form of brain cancer, speaking to colleagues with a surgical scar above his left eye. he lamented the passing of days when the senate was the world's greatest deliberative body. he said the world had become more deliberative and more trieblg. he embraced compromise and took aim at the provocateurs. >> stop listening to the bombastic loud mouths on the radio and television to hell with them. [ applause ] they don't want anything done for the public good. our incapacity is their livelihood. >> mccain knows that the keyboard commandos reached most reliable voters. and sadly, politicians, they pay too much attention to them. hopefully, the president cares
more than to just auction his power to a political party that will pay them the most in compensation in the form of a tote board to legislative victory without regard to merit. that's not good if he only cares about passing something, anything. but if he works earnestly with both sides and pulls them closer to the center, we'll all benefit. here's my question -- does the president really risk alienating his base by working with democrats? i spoke earlier with one of the president's earlier supporters and a vocal support to his reach across the aisle. congressman, i see a president who has twice in a week tried to reach across the aisle to get something wrong and i like it. >> in this case, the president made a campaign promise that he was going to end daca. and he more or less served that
up to congress. and as i would describe it, he threw a cat into the kennel and said, congress, you fight over daca. and now, it looks like he's got a side conversation going on with the nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. and the implication was that there would be a legalization, an amnesty served up, in change for something. and they said it won't be a wall. so, now, we have a scramble going on in congress. and i wasn't looking forward to another great big immigration fight. i think america is tired of those, we had them under george w. bush, and barack obama. the mer people delivered a referendum that said we want border security, we want a wall. and the unconstitutional amnesty that that barack obama created. i just want the president to follow through on his campaign promises and get along with the other tasks of government. >> do you have buyer's remorse for your early and strong support of president trump.
>> well, i have to say no. and i say that because all along, it was a mission to get a platform, the planks of the platform first hammered out in iowa under the caucus process. and then through new hampshire, south carolina and beyond. and that platform is now in the oval office. presidents do -- i don't know if it's constitutional, but they've got a right to change their mind. i don't know that the president has. i think he wants all the reinforcement he can get. but if i had to do it differently again. i don't know that i'd do it differently. i made the right decisions at the time that i made them. now i'm asking the president to recall the commitments that he's made, keep them, so he can keep his base. i'm afraid it if there's any one thing that would cause the trump base to leave him, that is to grant amnesty in any kind of a deal when it was such a strong campaign promise to end the original daca program. >> i asked about buyer's remorse
one of your tweets, you said, @donald trump, if ap is correct, trump base is blown up, destroyed, irreparable and disillusioned. i saw that feet, i was wondering did congressman king think that he will be disillusioned beyond repair? >> i think if it proves outside to be over the long term. but here's my job, none of us should be attached to a person or personality as a priority over pose. and all this planks in the platform, i support the entire trump agenda. i support the agenda that was sworn in january 20th of this year. and even if we part company in a great big way on immigration, i still want to move the rest of his agenda. >> i want to play for you 30 seconds of sound from rush limbaugh's program on thursday.
because it speaks to the concern that you have that he will lose his base. roll that tape. >> i'm not going to give up on trump even if he starts to move to the left to get something done with tax reform. >> i truthfully think he will drain the swamp. and he's showing people that the swamp has nothing to do with party affiliation. >> i think that he's got three sets of heads, pelosi, the democrats and the republicans. i think this is a power that he did. >> everyone i talked to from every walk of life has said pretty much the same thing if trump has to work with democrats to get some of what he wants done, so be it. >> is rush limbaugh correct when he says the sbas fine with it, if this is what it takes to get things done? >> i do think that rush was incorrect when he says that. and he's incorrect on a lot of
things. on this, i would say people like mark levin, and others out there that have made a strong statement, sean hannity and others, this base is not something that he has his finger on. grew there, started there. sand hosted the first event when he ran for president. we have our finger on the pulse out here. i have people e-mailing me, texting me for months now, please support the president unconditionally. but the thing that brought them into this campaign and the strong committed support to president trump which i've applauded for a long time. and still, i want to get behind him and stand behind him for the agenda that he committed to. but they came in because of immigration. they knew that america was eventually destroyed if we don't secure the border. cut down illegal immigration, and imnature it if possible. if that's not the trump agenda,
the base is going to stay with, that's the only thing i can think of that would cause the local supporters to leave them. >> quick final question, because i'm out of time, will you leave him if this is the way it goes? >> no. i'm going to stick with president trump. for all the rest of his agenda. and i'm going to do everything i can. >> okay. >> to help him keep his campaign promises. that's my commitment. and by the way, it would be pet youent to walk away from a president because you disagree with him on a single issue. there's a whole lot of things we need to accomplish. if we dent get everything we want, including the president, we need to follow through on all of things that we believe are right for our country. >> congressman king, thank you so much. >> thank you. the president's efforts of bipartisanship comes just after three moderate republicans have announced they will not seek
re-election to the house. including my next guest. charlie dent has been the co-chair of 50 moderate republicans known as the tuesday group. hey, congressman, react to what you just heard from steve king. i find it interesting that he says it would be petalent to leave the president on one issue. he wouldn't do it, and yet he fears that the president's base would do it. does the president jeopardize his base if he provides protection for daca? >> oh, i don't know about that. michael, i've got to tell you, there is strong support in congress for the agreement that was reached last week on the debt ceiling. and there's also strong bipartisan support for an agreement on daca and enhanced border security. you know, the debt ceiling agreement that we reached last week passed overwhelmingly. and there are a minorities of people beating their gums saying it's a terrible thing. no, it was actually the right
thing to do the president should be given credit for that. the truth is we're not 218 republican votes to extend the debt ceiling for six month, or 18 months. everybody knew that. the point is if you're not able to vote for the debt ceiling, we become irrelevant. same thing on daca. american people support us protecting these children who came here through no fault of their own. no-no other country. there will be a small fringe of people yelling and screaming about this every step of the way. even though we have the votes. republicans want to take care of this issue. apparently, the president does, too. and i applaud him for wanting to do this and tie it to border security. that's an obvious compromise. it will pass if we get a bill on the floor. >> are you leaving at the wrong time? compromise is in the air. >> hopefully.
i've run for office 13 times, i'm 13-0, six times in the general assembly of pennsylvania, state house and senate and congress. i just thought about it, obviously, there's frustration this year, i won't kid you about that, that's true. there has been frustration. and i'm concerned it might be very difficult to get that smiths done. if we're going to get something done, there has to be negotiation, dialogue and innso kind of compromise. >> three times charlie dent has been in public service when you announced you won't seek public re-election. something that popped out to me, i've worked to instill stability, certainty, and predictability in washington. i've fought to fulfill the basic functions of government, and
regrettably that has not been easy given the disruptive outside influences that profit from increased polarization and ideological rigidity. aren't you and i talking about the same people in the monologue who said they don't want democrats and republicans working together, they want dysfunction. as mccain said, their incapacity is our livelihood. >> yes, you and senator mccain are absolutely spot on. look, these groups are fighting for market share. they're not going to pat us on the back and congress if we reach an agreement on these children and debt ceiling. they're going to rip it apart. and in order to get ratings they have to drive discord and dissent. so that's their business model. their business model isn't getting 50% plus 1 coalition to pass the bill. their job is retaining whatever percentage of the market that is.
i don't know what that is. people have to understand, they're profiting off of this. their business is making money. and that's me as a public official have to understand that and act accordingly. >> right, people need to stop conflating news and entertainment. which this has morphed into. congressman, wish you good things. >> thanks, mike, go lehigh. >> hey, what are your thought, tweet knee @smerconish. wait, trump's not reaching across to the ds his plan is to blame them for ending daca when they won't support his trump wall. the blame game, i'm sure will ensure, i just want the roughly 700,000 who are here through no wrongdoing of their own to be protected. because i think they deserve it. however that gets done. i don't care to watch how the sausage is made. i just want to make sure that we get that resolution.
one more quickly, if i may. michael, you said parties exist to win. donald trump elected to do people's business. maybe he is. #hopeful. stephanie, i've been highly critical of him. as you know, during the course of the campaign, when he won, i said i'd give him a fair shake. and i said here on cnn maybe we've elected a compromiser in chief. now nine months, that's where he appears to be. up ahead, the white house thinks that espn should fire an afternoon here tweeted that the president is a white supremacists. and curt schilling, himself fired on espn for something he posted. and pom oliver, an anchor for fox sporlts. then i realized managing was all i was doing.
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earlier in the week for one of the network's anchor, gemelle hill who called him a white supremacist. trump is the most ignorant offensive president of my lifetime. his rise is a direct result of white supremacy, period. he's unqualified, unfit to be a president. he's not a leader. and if he were not white, he never would have been elected. when press secretary sara sanders was asked about it, here's what she said. >> that's one of the more outrageous comments that somebody could make. and something that i think is a fireable offense by espn. >> hill later released a statement regretting her personal beliefs. and espn issued a follow-up statement saying she has, quote, a right to her personal opinions but not to share them on a public platform that in any way implies she was speaking on behalf of espn. of course, hill was hired for
her outspokenness about sports. espn is not a governmental entity and an employee's behavior does impact the employer. espn is in a classic bind on what some say is political correctness. so, what's the right path? joining me now someone who has himself been fired from espn. he also pitched 20 years in major league baseball. was a six-time all-star best remembered perhaps for the 2004 a.l. series against the yankees when he pitched with his right sock blood dr. from a recent surgery. here's the 2016 facebook post he got fired over on the issue of transgender restrooms. it included the line, i don't care what they are, who they sleep with. men's room designed for the penis, women's not so much. curt schilling joining us from on the road. he's driving back from texas and florida where he's been helping to deliver supplies to victims of harvey and irma.
hi, curt, you believe you were fired unjustly for speaking your mind. do you therefore jest jsupport jemele hill for speaking her find? >> i was fired for being a conservative. with my commentary around it, it was basically citing the fact -- a logical fact that men should use the men's room and women should use the women's room. and we don't need our government to tell us either. jemile hill, i was understand the impression that nothing happened to her, actually basically saying that her opinions are her own.
the problem is for me, if they're also -- ultimately support what i see racist liberal agenda platforms which is kind of frustrating. >> i misspoke if i said that she was fired, of course, she has not been fired. and what i meant to ask was do you support her right to speak her mind, given you that believe you were canned unjustly for speaking yours? i would think on some ground, you would be one of her greatest advocates? >> absolutely. she shouldn't be fired. i would fire her. i would have never hired her. she has no place in any platform that represents sports. i think she's openly racist. i don't need to tell you guys that. you guys have been at the forefront of his conversation with cnn since trump's been in
office. >> what's meant by that last assertion? >> oh, well, you guys, cnn, not you specifically, michael or anything physically from you, but cnn has been at the vanguard from everything from the dossier, to calling trump a white supremacist time after time, anchor after anchor with no validation, no support for the comments. and the white supremacy 20 years ago on the oprah winfrey show. this is the same that said with female anchors with her hands up, don't shoot. even though that was considered to be a complete fabrication or lie. i never heard anyone at cnn retract that. >> listen, i'd love on a different day to litigate each
one of the points that you just made here. because there's a response for each one of them. instead, what i'll do, i'll respond to you by saying you were fired for being a conservative but put back on the screen that facebook post that curt schilling cherry picked a photograph and you used it to besmirch an entire class of individuals. that's why you got fired. do you want to have that conversation, because we'll have it? >> not true, mike. i didn't besmirch an entire group of people. >> of course, you did. do you think that the image that's on the screen is typical of the transgendered among us? seriously. >> no i never said it was. that wasn't my picture -- >> by indication, you did, cheap shot. >> no, right, i understand that's how you guys work. i get it, you guys work on getting ratings, you need to be
bombastic and you need to make assumptions for the viewers because you guys operate on the notion that we're too stupid to speak for ourselves. the fact of the matters is, my comment was around the fact i don't need my government to tell me where to pee. >> let me tell you something, i deal in evidentiary thinking i don't like you guys, your network, if you have a beef -- hold on a second. you know what you were pompous in philly and you're pompous today. you come on my program and make mild assertions, none with specificity relative to me and my program. now give me the final word out of decency. go ahead. >> no, i made it very clear. i wasn't aiming at you and i said that because i haven't heard you say anything. i was referring to the people you work for. you work for a company that openly has a hatred of our
president from time and time, from a buzzfeed report that was completely fabricated. and part of the reason, i say your, your being cnn, you're part of the reason we're here. >> you know what the funny thing to me is, i've got to just say this, one of the mantras of conservatives is this notion of personal responsibility. >> right. >> and yet, when it's your own conduct at issue, it's a dodge. it's like to point in every other direction. why don't we have a conversation about your behavior that caused you to be fired from espn. instead of you turning around and wanting to talk about the dossier that buzzfeed produced. i thought we were having a conversation about how espn canned you. >> right, they should have canned me -- my first amendment rights weren't abridged. i got fired for something that my boss disagreed with. that's how it worked. i got fired for reasons of my
own doing. i don't have a problem admitting that. >> okay. i'm happy to hear you say that. you were fwiired for your own conduct. by the way, i'm for consistency. in case you're curious, i'm for consistency, if in fact they're going to say you're political, you're a distraction, that's not our business, we're sports, you're out of here. i'm going to tell you something that may come as news for you, i want them to hold the same standard for everybody, you, her, and whoever is next. >> right. but then you can agree with me that's not even remotely close to what they do. they have made it -- again, this is their right, michael. they're a privately owned company. they can do whatever they choose to do. disney and espn has decided that they will support those in the world who are every bit as racist and intolerant as they say everybody else is. that's their prerogative. >> curt schilling, i appreciate
you being here. and now to fox correspondent and sideline reporter pam oliver. aren't you glad you came out to play today, pam? >> oh, my gosh, what is happening here. i'm thinking curt schilling was fired because they didn't like him. it is mind-boggling the conversation that you just had. and the thing that bothers me -- >> okay. does he have a point? >> no. >> let me sort of clear my head and say does he have a point that there's say double standard in that he's gone and she's still there? >> i think you have to look at these cases individually. obviously, with curt schilling, he's kind of way out there, on planet mars. he's kind of insulting in his assertions here. as far as the transgender matter goes. and i feel that with jamelle, herb comments were basically just her personal opinion.
she did not espouse this stuff on the air. she did it by twitter. and to call her a racist because she's made certain comments is ridiculous. i think what we're looking at with curt schilling. i don't know if the conversation was supposed to go this way, but what he has to say is disturbing. and it's no wonder that he doesn't have a job with espn. >> but, you know, for each of us, i think we recognize that through our social media, we are so identified with our respective employers, in your case, fox sports. in my base, cnn, i've been drilled by cnn, i've been warned, hey, if you do something on your social media account, you're out of here. isn't it the same with her? >> well, obviously, they've reached a different agreement or she would have been let go. i think that they looked at the information. i think they sort of, i don't know, bowed to public pressure,
or came out with a statement that was kind of wishy washy, and made it seem like they took her to task. but if you know jamele, she's strong, opinionated sa ed and well-versed on the topics she discusses. so, she's not the kind of person that goes away. i understand it wasn't dinner party conversations. but how far out were those comments that she made. president trump tweeted about mika brzezinski a very rude kind of text. but at the same time, or tweet, it just seems like to me, you know, you get your feelings hurt when someone calls you a name. but when you turn around and exhibit some very poor behavior, then it's okay. it's just all so childish at this point. and it makes absolutely no sense that we are talking about this
two or three days later when there's so many important matters to discuss. it is -- it's confusing to me. and it's just vitriol that we just heard from curt schilling that these people automatically have to be racist because they differ in opinion that you may have. it just speaks to, i think, the individual. and you took him to task on that. and rightfully so. i'm proud of you, michael. >> pam oliver. thanks for being here. hoping that the eagle cover against the chiefs. what do we have time for? let me see it, smerconish nice job handling that pompous ass cur curt schilling. you know, what kind of egret when regret when i said he was pomp out. ahead, have smartphones
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♪ the internet went bananas this week when apple unveiled its newest models of the iphone, the 8 and x. but are smartphones contributing to mental health problems for an entire generation of americans. the i-gen, those born between 1995 and 2012 have never known a world without smartphones. my next guests say the devices they hold in their hands have both extended their childhoods and isolated them from true human interaction. the result, teens are not hanging out as much with friends, in no rush to drive, dating less, having less sex and
getting less sleep. the doauthor of this new book igen, why those are growing up less happy and completely unprepared for adulthood. a doctor of psychologist. for 20 years you've been studying generational differences. looking at the data, all of a sudden, in the year 2012, a number of things take your breath away. what? >> that's exactly right. there's this big national data set of teens right around that time, 2011, 2012, more of them started to say that they felt sad and hopeless and useless, that they couldn't do anything right. those are classic symptoms of depression. more started to say they felt left out and lonely. other big data, a national screening study of mental illness finds a 50% increase in
clinical levels of depression between 2011 and 2015. the suicide rate starts to go up. so, there's all of these very concerning symptoms of men health issues among teens. >> i'm going to put up a number of graphs that come from your book, because the data is overwhelming. first, not hanging out with friends. take a look at what happens in 2007, when the iphone is released. or how about less dating. same effect come 2007. more likely to feel lonely, again, on the time period and how it escalates after the iphone release. less likely to get that. likely to get sleep. you say we're only the world crisis in decades. explain. >> yeah, i think especially given this substantial increase
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