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welcome back. you're watching cnn. we have breaking news news out of mexico. where a massive 7.1 earthquake just hit. the quake struck little more than three miles east, northeast of rubuso mexico. 75 miles south of mexico city. let's go straight to allison chinchar for more. 7.1. >> 7.1 and in a depth of about 51 kilometers or give or take 32 miles deep. in terms of earthquakes that is relatively deep however it's not deep enough that folks around wouldn't be able to feel it. this is mexico city. just for to understand where it is. this is where the earthquake
took place. this is the shake map though. you see the bright yellow and green colors indicating that even though it is about 75 miles away from mexico city, people there still felt this earthquake because of how strong it was brooke. >> all right. so we're watching that out of mexico but what about hurricane maria. so many people are watching maria down in the atlanta, category 5 headed straight to puerto rico. >> and getting stronger. we now have the latest, winds are higher to 165 miles per hour moving west, northwest at 10 miles per hour. still a category 5. we have talked about this before. as it makes landfall over puerto rico it's likely to be a high end category 4 or low end category 5 storm. for the most part you're talking probably a 10 mile per hour difference. don't necessarily focus on the category. focus on how strong those winds are going to be. if it stays where it is at 165
miles per hour when it makes landfall this will be the strongest storm to ever hit puerto rico. the question is does it weaken before it ends up making landfall on puerto rico? it is possible. it could go through an eye wall replacement cycle or encounter something that limits it just enough to bring it back before it makes landfall which is expected to be early tomorrow morning. in addition to the strong winds there's storm surge that's a big threat. for puerto rico we're talking 6 to 9 feet. british virgin islands, st. martin, 7 to 11 feet of storm surge. in addition to that we're talking incredibly heavy rain, widespread about 6 to 10 inches of rain but there will be several pockets, 15, 18, even 20 inches of rain. in puerto rico specifically look at these, 15, 13, 10, 12. again huge numbers of rainfall. that's a problem not just because of the flooding aspect
but a lot of the islands have high elevation and the rain can trigger mudslides -- >> forgive me allison. it's the president of the united states. >> again, we have other meetings scheduled for today and many for tomorrow and the next day. but we're making a lot of progress. thank you. >> what do you say to people that -- [ inaudible ] >> does that mean you're moving towards more aggressive military options? >> we will see what happens. hopefully everything will work out. we have will see what happens. >> i believe the question was on military options on north korea. the president there and his entourage moving along. day two united nations general assembly. we just learned that u.n. diplomats were taken aback and had an emotional reaction to president trump's speech today and the threat specifically to destroy north korea, a country
of some 25 million people as he took the stage this morning at the u.n. for the very first time. >> the united states has great strength and patience but if it is forced to defend itself or its ally, we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. the united states is ready, willing and able but hopefully this will not be necessary. >> the america first president singling out a handful of countries he considers enemies including iran which he labeled a murder res regime. >> the iranian government masks a corrupt dictatorship behind the false guise of a democracy.
it has turned a country into an economically depleted rogue state whose chief exports are violent, bloodshed and chaos. the iran deal was one of the worst and most one sided transactions the united states has ever entered into. frankly, that deal is an embarrassment to the united states and i don't think you have heard the last of it. believe me. >> let's go straight to chrissian amanpour. there you are in the rain in new york here. i want to ask about your conversation with president macron of france. what were your initial thoughts on president trump's speech? >> reporter: as you're asking me his car has just gone by. so you just dipped in live to what he was saying, his motorcade is just going by. leaving the general assembly building and going off for the day.
this was his first major foreign policy speech in front of such a huge array of world leaders. yes, of course, he did have some very, very strong rhetoric. you know what, people certainly were previewing that his speech was going to be very tough on north korea and on iran. not too much surprise there. obviously, people getting a little bit taken aback by the description of totally destroying the regime et cetera. but what he did say was that that would happen if the regime threatened the united states or its allies. yes, at the u.n. and maybe not the kind of language that people are used to hearing from an american president but it's quite similar to what general mattis, the defense secretary warned north korea about when it had that sixth nuclear collar test a couple of weeks ago. if you threaten us or our allies we will have a massive and overwhelming response against you. now, on the other issue of the iran nuclear deal, the president is not quite right there.
he says it's the most embarrassing deal ever, it was done at the spence and unfair to the united states and nobody who signed on to that deal sees it that way. because what this deal did while it's not perfect it was good enough to bracket iran's nuclear program for the foreseeable future for at least another -- up until 2025 at least. that means it is unable unlike north korea to test, to develop, to use nuclear weapons and icbm's et cetera. i talked to the french president about what he would say to president trump regarding pulling out of that deal, none of the other signatories including france wants that deal to be ripped up. >> north korea is a very good illustration of a what if denial. why? because we stopped everything with north korea. years and years ago.
we stopped any monitoring or discussions with them. they would probably get nuclear weapons. so my position for iran, if president trump was to say look at the situation in north korea, i don't want to replicate the situation with iran. >> so there you have it basically saying that at this moment of grave crisis, grave nuclear crisis the last thing the world needs is to pull out of a deal that puts a barrier around iran's nuclear ambitions and program. now, he did admit that other issues about iran are troubling and that he understood president trump about iran's actions in the middle east region, syria, yemen about iran's missile program but when it comes to the nuclear dealing pulling out would make the world a less safe place. he says he has a good
relationship with president trump and you saw that he was having yet another chat with him last night before the official speeches and president trump was complimenting him on that massive military parade on bastille day and basically saying we or going to have to top that. maybe we'll have a military parade right here in washington on independence day. lots of good humor but president macron said he wants to try to persuade president trump not to go out of the iran deal and definitely reconsider going out of the climate accord. >> i know he talked about refugees and other important items. christiane, thank you over at the u.n. for us across town here in new york. we are following breaking news. this major earthquake in central mexico. we are starting to get the first images as the region shook. we'll bring you those tweets in just a moment.
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. welcome back. you're watching cnn. this bombshell in the russia investigation. president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort was wiretapped by federal investigators twice during a period earlier this year when it was believed he was speaking with the president. let's go right to our correspondent, our crime in justice correspondent who is part of our cnn team who broke the story. what do you know? >> brooke we're told there are intercepted communications that raised concerns about whether manafort was encouraging russians to help the campaign. our sources told us intelligence was not conclusive there's other communications the fbi has between suspected russian operatives relating what they claimed were discussions as well as communications involving manafort himself. none of this we're told by our
sources amounted to what people consider a smoking gun in this investigation, brooke. >> all right. thank you. let me bring in my panel to discuss all of this. also some reporting out of "the new york times" about the no knock warrant. prosecutors have not out told manafort they plan to indict him. this happened back in july when investigators searched his house according to the joyork times. welcome to all of you. first just on -- charles, on the mueller -- i guess we could call it doing his job/aggressive
tactic/if you're a critic fishing expedition. how do you see how this is shaping out and what do you make how aggressive he is being. >> i think it's important for people to know he's not being aggressive at all. he's using those tactics which prosecutors use in white collar crimes and used them years ago in organized crimes but search warrants, wiretaps, subpoenas are in every case. they need a judge's approval. telling him that he is going to be indicted, that's notifying an individual he's a target of an investigation. i think he's doing a very good job, i know many of the people that joined him. they're fabulous attorneys from brooklyn, and all over the country. i think he's doing a very good job. it's a very important case. he doesn't want to make any mistakes and why wouldn't he use ever tool available. >> michael, apparently according to the sources some intel from
the wiretaps includes communications that sparked concerns that manafort had encouraged russians to help in the campaign. how significant is that because some of the sources are saying you can't jump to conclusions on that either? >> the whole question has been what is the information that you can base conclusions on? it's all been speculation and he said/she said. if you have a wire intercept that puts the definitiveness on the conversation you have had back and forth, that answers a lot of questions and gives prosecutors to say yeah there is a communication and let's take a look at what that means and that's where you lead the case from. that is the individual talking specifically about the case that you're really concerned about. mueller is very aggressive but what people don't really appreciate there's this whole judicial process. when you talk to lawyers, the no-knock warrants, they must
have had something. this is the theme in the case. they're moving as quick and aggressively as they can. they must have a lot of information that leads them down this path. >> what about the wiretap itself, the fact that under the two different times there would have been times where he would have talked to now president trump. it's not clear if president trump was picked up on any of the wiretaps or in any communications. if he had been, would that be within bob muellers purview to use? >> again a lot of speculation and i believe they probably were fisa warrants by the fisa court. >> they were. >> it would be appropriate to use, that's evidence that can be admissible if needed and appropriate. yes. >> yes. emily jane fox, switching gears, but related in this whole probe, michael cohen, trump personal lawyer sits down with you at a
diner somewhere in the hamptons to have a chat before he is set to sit with us in an intel behind closed doors. he puts out part of a statement before he's to go in there and they say, no, no, no we warned you not to do this. now we want to question you and we're going to do it in a public setting. didn't he understand the rules? >> i don't know the answer to that question. i spoke to him at great length over the last couple weeks. >> he talked, talked. >> it never once came up these were the rules. i feel like in hours and hours and hours of conversation with a reporter that might have come up. it didn't. he told me he initially wanted these hearings to be public and at the advice of counsel and his friends they decided to keep them private. maybe this will end up back where he wanted it all along. >> reading your piece, just fascinating tidbits about -- is sadness the right word to use?
he walks past trump tower wanting to be part of it all in washington. tell me what he shared with you. >> he nearly teared up when he talked about the fact he walks past trump tower and doesn't speak to the president at the advice of counsel or the members of the family who he worked close with. he is a built of a showman like his boss and he's in front of a reporter and that plays into it but i think he misses their friendship and was looking forward to getting this behind them. >> how long has he known president trump? years and years? >> more than ten years, yeah. >> okay. emily, charles and michael, thank you very much on that. i want to get back on this earthquake, breaking news, this powerful earthquake, 7.1 rocking mexico. new video just in. let's go back to allison
chinch chinchar. >> again, just for a refresher, this was a 7.1 earthquake, about 75 miles give or take southeast of mexico city. this is where the earthquake was located. this is mexico city. okay. the depth of this earthquake was about 51 kilometers deep, give or take, about 32 miles. in terms of earth quakes that is relatively deep but not deep enough folks far away wouldn't be able to feel it. this is where the epicenter is located. this is mexico city. you can see the yellow color indicating people there felt it and likely encountered some damage from the earthquake. the question now is to what extent was that damage and how far out from the center is it going to be. okay. now here's the thing. they are going to start to experience some aftershocks in this region. anything that has been
structurally compromised could end up causing more damage depending on what magnitude they are. here's mexico city. this is where the epicenter of the earth wake was located. you can see it's down towards the south and east. but you have got some other communities also inside this area that were likely impacted by this particular earthquake. you have got tom video that you can see on the other side of the screen. again, we have been seeing video and photos come in of damage from some of these places. you know, everything from parts of buildings that have fallen down. you know, obviously you have got some power poles that can come down. things like that. the question is what is the extent of the severe damage? what actually occurred? 7.1 earthquake. as you recall it will be two weeks this coming thursday that
we just had an 8.1 earthquake in mexico. so again, the earthquake is on a lot of these people's minds and fairly fresh from having had an earthquake. not in this exact same spot but in mexico they just had an 8.1 earthquake that had fatalities with it. it will be two weeks to the day for that particular quake. that's going to be something that we have to keep in mind with this particular earthquake. brooke. >> allison, i'm glad you brought up the 8.1 two weeks ago. was that in a different bart of mexico? >> it was. it was not in this particular location but it was large enough that the amount of people that felt it was actually pretty widespread. just like this one. when you start getting to those numbers where they're in the 6's, 7's and 8's the area it could spread out is large. you don't have to be near the epicenter to encounter damage. >> we saw people being treated.
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this incoming hurricane but you live in mexico city. you know mexico city. this is the second powerful earthquake to hit around this region in two weeks. >> reporter: right. brooke, i just got off the phone with the president's office and they tell me that the president of mexico was en route to the southern end of the count and he was on his way there to give follow up to victims of the last earthquake there that claimed more than 90 lives. so this is a series of earthquakes now having an impact in mexico. the difference is this one is closer to mexico city. mexico city, big city. i just -- when i talked to one of the officials from the president's office, he was a little shook up. he tells me people are
industristill trying to get ahold of family members. when i asked him how he was doing, he was in shock. mexico obviously is very aware of earthquakes in the 1980s there was an earthquake that changed the infrastructure of mexico city. this earthquake hitting much closer to that less than two kwi weeks ago and had a big impact on the southern end of the country. it's too soon to tell what the injuries may be, what the damage is. but in my call to the president's office they say that will be next. it will be damage assessment. the president turned he was en route and turned around to head right back to mexico city to tend to the needs there that will be great from what i'm hearing and the few people i've been able to get ahold of in
mexico city after this 7.1 earthquake. >> we're working the phones as well. thank you so much. 7.1 magnitude earthquake hitting central mexico. the depth of the quake, almost 33 miles. a journalist who works for cnn even felt shaking in the city and that was 75 miles away. we're going to try to get some folks on the phone who felt it. stay with me. you're watching cnn. ♪ ♪ where do you want to go next? ♪ ♪ because there's always more world, there's platinum. backed by the service and security of american express. because there's always more world, there's platinum. at holiday inn express, we can't guarantee
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if you are just joining us let me set up what we have been covering. breaking news out of central mexico. 75 miles south of mexico city we are getting in in all these different feeds from different affiliates around mexico of what just happened, a 7.1 magnitude earth quake that has rocked the central part of the country including this video. let's cue it up guys, of this building.
totally collapsing. watch it again. you see it. wait for it. the earthquake hits. and in seconds it is gone. 7.1 magnitude. we know that the mexican president tweeted i've called a meeting for the national emergency committee to evaluate the situation to coordinate any actions. he said he was on a flight and now he's going to immediately reroute and head back to mexico city. allison chinchar is in the cnn severe weather center. we were talking so much about hurricanes before but all the focus on the 7.1 magnitude out of mexico and the videos, i mean, that building collapse is stunning. >> yeah. let's take a look at where the earthquake is. it's this orange dot you can see here. that was the epicenter of the quake. 7.1 magnitude quake.
a depth of 51 kilometers. give or take 32 miles deep. that is relatively deep but not deep enough that it wouldn't cause significant damage especially the closer you are to the epicenter point. here's mexico city and the epicenter. all of the yellow, that's what we call the shake map. those are people in those communities that could feel the earthquake. again here's a look. this epicenter is about 75 miles southeast of mexico city. here's the epicenter and here's mexico city. see all these communities around here that had some type of minor damage. they could feel it. in some cases yes we have had moderate to even major damage in some of the communities. also keep in mind just about two weeks ago mexico just had an 8.1 magnitude quake. thankfully not in this same region. that was about a little bit
further south and east of where this particular quake was located. but you have to look. this is a very heavily populated region. mexico city is one of the most densely populated cities in the world. obviously this is going to affect pretty high population. here's a look. at least 28 million people felt some type of weak shaking with this earthquake. about 20 million that felt some type of moderate shaking an about 1 million and a half that felt very strong shaking and that's the number you focus on for a lot of your significant damage that you would have. perhaps where you saw the building or you have rubble or debris in the streets. >> allison, stand by. we have adrian wilson on the phone. in mexico city. adrian can you hear me? >> reporter: i can hear you. >> i understand you were having lunch and then you felt a
rumble? >> literally reading about donald trump and the u.n. thinking wow, missiles, world war ii and the rest of it and i felt the tremor. it just felt like a dumpster going over a manhole cover and kept amplifying and all of a sudden this giant earthquake. >> how long did the rumbling or the shake last? >> it was about 20 seconds and it just kept increasing. up to quite an intensity. all the room was shaking. all the glasses and doors were shaking everywhere. i don't know if you can hear outside. but there's still pandaemonium outside. military vehicles around. helicopters flying overhead. mexico believe it or not had like a siren practice at 11:00 this morning. so literally an hour before the earthquake everyone did the thing for real.
everyone was really organized. went outside and all the traffic stopped et cetera. but where i'm at, nothing collapsed. even though it seemed like, you know, really great experience, you realize that people -- i don't know if people have died or certainly got injured from the images i've seen. >> looking at the pictures we saw a number of people being treated who were clearly in the range of the quake zone. last question. what was the reaction in the cafe where you are and in pilonko? did people understand what was going on? >> yeah. i just got straight outside. so my son left obviously for taking a video and going straight outside. i went straight outside. everyone was in their safe zone, several safe zones marked
outside every building and people are taking it in stride. but as i say, we didn't have all the kind of horrific scenes i've seen in the rest of the city here. >> yes. you are indeed a whopping 75 miles away and just south of you is where the 7.1 magnitude earthquake hit. thank you so much for jumping on the phone with me. we're getting more information, pictures, grabbing more voices, quick break. more breaking news out of mexico after this. but some people still like cable. just like some people like banging their head on a low ceiling. drinking spoiled milk. camping in poison ivy. getting a papercut. and having their arm trapped in a vending machine. but for everyone else, there's directv. for #1 rated customer satisfaction over cable switch to directv. call 1-800-directv.
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meeting over this last ditch effort to end obamacare. lawyers huddling behind closed doors. members of republican leadership on the senate side to discuss this bill produced by two republican senators. bill cassidy and lindsey graham. both introduced this months ago and at the time it went nowhere. now that could change because time is running out. they're up against the september 30th deadline for this vote. keeping in mind this is something without any democrat support. here's senator lindsey graham after the meeting and the democrats' response. >> we now how this movie ends if we don't change. we're going to have a single health care system in this country that's going to bust the budget. obamacare is failing for a reason. the democratic party is never going to give us anything that fundamentally changes obamacare. we have had weeks of talking and the only time they have gotten
serious is when they're afraid that my bill may pass. >> i just heard our republican colleagues speak. there was a word missing. people. patients. care. all this stuff. democrat, republican, governors, washington. how about how this affects people? simply put, trumpcare is a sham. they're crafting it in the dark of night. to say one hearing on one day without a cbo score and only two witnesses against the bill, that's a hearing? that's a full airing of the bill? c'mon. they're ashamed of this bill. they're afraid to find out what it actually does. >> so here just some headlines of what the graham cassidy bill would do. repeal individual and employer mandates, turn federal subsidies and medicaid into block grants. loosens regulations on
pre-existing conditions and eliminates essential health care benefits. paul ryan says it is the republican partys' best last chance and we are watching the key senators on how they vote. kentucky a hard no. john mccain, remember the thumbs down. the skinny repeal bill. how does it go this summer. or rather, this fall. tbd susan collins and murkowski undecided. with me now steven moore, former senior adviser to the trump campaign and rick newman co columnist at author finest. let's talk about this. we did see rick newman, i listened to senator graham, he said paul ryan said to his face if you pass it, we pass it. they said -- the republicans said this was a great plan, you
say it's politically stupid. why? >> it as no main stream support. their plan got less than 20%. obamacare for all its flaws and it has many and it's over 50% approval, no doctors group support this bill. they're against it. that's the american medical association. patient groups like the american cancer society are against it. it has no support. it will not get a congressional budget office score which means we won't know the details the impact it will have on the budget or health care coverage before they have to vote and it will be out in public for a grand total of 17 days before the deadline comes to vote. this is exactly what john mccain complained about when he voted no. he wants it to return to regular order. not rushing through. >> he also said the arizona governor likes this bill. so perhaps john mccain, maybe, maybe a yes. we don't know. steven moore, the cbo score wouldn't happen. so how are they supposed to
vote? >> they'll have to get a score, you know, before the vote. i think a couple things inspired this. one, last week you had bernie sanders and 12 other democrats come out for a health care system and it woke up republicans that say hey, if we don't fix this thing because we know obamacare is falling apart. and next year on top of the 50 and 60 and 70% increase. obamacare is unsustainable. republicans are racing to the deadline to get this passed. let one other point. i worked with the clinton administration when we did welfare reform. and we did this we don't know how to deal with the problem of welfare and controlling costs. let's turn it back to the states and let virginia and texas come
up with solutions to health care that provide high quality, make it affordable. because the problem is people can't afford obamacare. it's really bankrupting a lot of families. >> that's listening to senator graham. and i want to see what you respond. he was saying why wouldn't you want your state representatives that wants the same kind of solid medical care. why wouldn't you want your state to decide this instead of washington? how would you respond to that? >> first of all, obamacare is not failing. it is failing to solve other problems. it needs help but not failing. question about the states, i've never heard anybody say which part of the government they want to help provide their health care. i think what they want is their doctor to provide health care. remember obama earned him lie of the doctor, if you want your doctor, you can keep your doctor. well if you are covered under obamacare and like your doctor, you cannot keep your doctor, because you will not have that coverage.
all coverage will disappear. some of those people will be able to get care in different ways and some will not. prior estimates showed the last bill, 22 million people would lose coverage over the course of a decade. this will probably be comparable to that. it could actually be a higher number than that. but we are will not know until the vote is supposed to happen. >> did you just say obamacare isn't crumbling? you should talk to real people who cannot afford the premiums. i know people who have seen two to three, $4,000 increase on premium. if you are living on $50,000 income, those are giant costs. so what are you saying is exactly what people said, what you are saying about obamacare though is what liberals said why welfare reform wouldn't work? and we saw reduction in medicare. got them in jobs. and we lot democratic and
republican senators come up with different solutions and learned from each other hand great solution. i love this idea of passing it onto states and letting state legislatures figure it out. massachusetts is not the same as texas. texas will come up with reforms. and massachusetts can have a single payer system if they want to. >> let me ask you about a key piece, it's about pre-existing conditions. that's a huge piece. and republicans say yes they will be protected but my understanding the bill will actually give states the ability to let ensurers raise prices on those with pre-existing conditions. >> well, what you will have to do is have some kind of special fund so the people with pre-existing conditions are protected against price increases. but on the other hand, what happened in obamacare the disaster of obamacare is they put people with pre-existing conditions in the insurance pool with everyone else and that's what led to the big increases in costs. that's why so many people are healthy are basically saying,
look, i don't want obamacare. i'll pay the penalty. i can't ford the high costs of obamacare because i'm relatively healthy and i don't want to pay for somebody who has high health care costs. people want insurance for their own families, not for other people's families. >> so how does turning this over to a state government solve the problem? states had the opportunity to solve this problem before obamacare passed in 2010. we had all of these problems, costs were too high, ordinary families can't afford typical care. all of these existed before obamacare and states didn't solve the problem. only states that addressed the problem was massachusetts. >> here's the thing. the more they waste. >> deadline for republicans. we shall see. healthy debate on health care.
let's get more on reaction coming into president's speech with resounding message. i will always put america first. >> major portions of the world are in conflict, and some, in fact, are going to hell. but the powerful people in this room under the guidance and auspices of the united nations can solve many of these vicious hand complex problems. if the righteous many do not confront the wicked few, then evil will triumph. when decent people in nations become bystanders to history, they only get power and strength. >> with me now is former adviser to four presidents. david, always a pleasure to see you, sir.
you watched the speech. firks just over arching big picture thought. how did he do? >> i think it was better than some of the u.n. believers thought it would be. but it was still brinstling wit military threats against other countries. and also had this notion of sovereignty. we come so far from when the united nations first organized by the united states. san francisco. it was regarded as a major investment by the united states and international leadership and combining with other nations, we would keep the world more peaceful. we have come a long way from that dream. and i think donald trump represents we need to, you know, this is not serving america's interest. he feels that very strongly. >> he talked, you mentioned iran, you mentioned september
15, that will be here in a blink. i thought he didn't mince words. talking to them president macron to grab the president's ear this week to talk him out of that. how do you think that factors in to what the world will do to get behind him on a nuclear north korea, yet he's trying to pull out of this nuclear deal with iran? >> that's a very very good question. and i think what was missing from the speech, most clearly was a long-term vision and strategy. it's like every problem is considered just as a problem in and of itself but not in relationship to everything else. >> which is how the world works. >> yes. and i think other nations find that frustrating because they keep looking for a vision that president trump has, a strategy, and then a sense of what is the united states, what role of leadership are we going to play. because everyone has depended on us for so long for leadership, but it's been very
destabilizing, frankly, to have this happen. but the thing that really surprised me on the speech was iran, i mean north korea. he ratcheted it up. >> destroy. >> the rhetoric in ways we have not seen an american president do. first of all, calling him rocket man, which was like a taunt. >> apparently reaching out to elton john. but go ahead. >> yeah. so then going to say we'll destroy the country. >> 25 million people. >> 25 million people. heretofore what the threat has been for the united states we'll decapitate the regime if you are not careful and we'll put a new regime in place. now he's moved from decapitating the regime to destroying the country, destroying the whole country. we have never heard that kind of threat before. and that is exceedingly worry some. and i think it's going to rattle some cages once again. but how do you -- the question we ask.
here heretofore when we've had presidents trying to deal with difficult problems, they go out and round up allies and coalition to be supportive. here we are lone ranger in this thing. >> i think to a point you made a second ago. i listen to dana bash when i can. >> we all do. >> we all should. talking to senior administration official saying it was very trumpian the speech in that it is what it is. he would say to another country. you do you. we'll do us. you do you. do your thing. and until you mess with us, we are cool. >> right. right. that has been -- well, that has been the view. but traditionally american foreign policy has said what is the big mega problem facing the world. and how do we round up enough international support to take care of that problem?
remember when sedan went to kuwait and james baker was secretary of state. baker went around to every nation, not only asking for moral support, but asking for money. and they wound up paying for it. >> which is what you think the president should be doing? >> i think we need allies. and i think to do that you have to believe in international institutions. >> david, always a pleasure. thank you very much. thanks for being with me. "the lead" with jake tapper starts now. this is cnn breaking news. thanks, brooke. welcome to the "the lead" i'm jake tapper we'll start with world lead a 7.1 magnitude earthquake rocked central mexico. early reports put the epicenter 75 miles outside of mexico city this comes since 8.1 struck off the southern coast of mexico. 61 people killed in that earthquake. let's