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trump is trolling north korea's leader, look, a president trump troll doll exactly exists. the president of the united states is trolling and elton john-un is live in concert. anderson starts now. good evening, two natural disasters beginning tonight. a death toll rising. hurricane category 5 maria is being to strike mexico. first, we go to the quake, it struck this afternoon, manned to 7.1. here's what it looked like at the mexico city airport. across the capital more than a dozen buildings collapsed, many more damages. death toll topped 100 earlier this evening and that is climbing. moments ago i spoke with christopher edwards from the
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humanitarian group youth being mission. chris take us through what happened when the earthquake hit. where were you where was t like? >> i was downtown mexico city on the 5th floor in our offices where we operate out of. we'd just been talking about the drill of -- because they had just did an earthquake drill two hours prior to to the earthquake because today's the 35th anniversary of the massive earthquake. when this happened it took us by surprise. the floor started shaking, the building started moving and we realized this is the real thing. people took off running and heading out of buildings and we were trying to stay calm. then we went out and started looking to where we can help people. >> can you estimate how long -- i know it's hard to tell time in situations like this.
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how long it was shaking for? >> at least 20 seconds i would say, 20, 25 seconds before the top of our building calmed down. >> and i understand you've been trying to help people forming human chains at collapsed buildings to try to do what you can. what have you been doing? >> yeah, we came down because some of our guys have training in counseling, we have a nurse on our staff. we thought let's go down there, it's most effective and see where we can help. as we got here they were forming human chains and taking down debris and putting it down in the road. getting away from effected areas. that's what we've been doing, grabbing the debris and piling them up in different places. handing out waters, and bottles and mass where the caair qualit
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and stuff. >> you've seen people being rescued? >> there's been at least one rescued and i know a that i have located sick more on the top floor they're trying to get to right now from what i've heard. >> are you onsite of that building now? >> i am not, i'm about two blocks away. they sent us to another location because a lot of people came to this one. we gathered up our staff and heading down that way and starb connected -- the starbucks is close but the internet is connected. >> how in order are things in terms of rescue efforts? do you see a lot of authority, personnel or people trying to do what they can like you? >> up on the building mostly it's like the civic rescue people, the marines.
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we got firefighters and police officers up there. it's lines and lines of citizens that come down to help. on the location where the building is, it's the officials that have the experience and know what they're doing. >> and do you have -- can you go back to your home tonight? is your building okay? and for a lot of people i guess there's the concern about whether the structures are sand? >> yeah. in the building where we have our organization, where we have a lot of our staff that actually live, there seems to be no damage to the building, we checked around thoroughly. there's glass broken in the buildings around us. my house is 20 minutes from there, is not quite as old as the apartment building where we rent our office space and stuff, but everything seems fine. my wife and child will r back there and they said everything is okay. >> chris, i appreciate you
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talking to us. glad your family's okay and appreciate all you're doing. thank you so much. >> thank you guys. two natural disasters unfolding. more from mexico city throughout the next two hours. the others, hurricane maria category 5 storm could do more damage to puerto rico. our meteorologist tom slater with more. break down for us where exactly was impacted by this earthquake today? >> the 7.1 that took over 5,000 lives. anything that's within 42 miles is considered shallow. of course the closer to the surface the more shaky but if it's 75 miles south southeast of mexico city. typically we'll have 18.0 a year, that one came 11 days ago. we've had a few of those.
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are they related though, i don't think so. if you have an 8.0 like we had 11 days ago you can have one aftershock that's a 7.0 but it's nowhere near that map. it's well down the south where the aftershocks were. we got over 14 1/2 million with moderate shaking. strong over 15 million, 1.6 very strong and that means everything. whether you look at a 7.1 you can have one aftershock. that's ten at 6.1 and over a hundred at four. we'll see more damage unfold. the usg s in the computer models speck dated a 91% chance of fay taltz and we're in that area right now. as far as what we're looking at as far as maria another devastation story. how many times do we have to say the word catastrophic this month. >> what's the latest on that
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forecast? >> we got a pen hole eye, sometimes it's the smaller well-defined eyes that are more ferocious. irma was 23 to 25 miles. it devastateddom nika. you go back to 1851 we didn't have anything. so that's how many conditions without any. headed right for puerto rico, the eye itself is 60 miles from st. croix and it looks like it's trying to wobble in that direction. over 160 miles from san juan. our only hope is to have an eye wall replacement cycle to help weaken the system. already the pressure inside is dropping a lot lower than it was in irma. you'll find a landfall around 8:00 or 9:00 in the morning. southeastern areas of puerto
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rico. if you look at the path of irma, it stayed 50 miles off the coast of puerto rico and they lost power to a million people. with the direct landfall in a population of 3.4 million that's where thing with get hectic. the red dots are the higher population and we figured over half of the population in puerto rico is in the eastern third. whether you talk about some of the rainfall effects, there is a high spine in the mountains that reaches over 4,000 feet. you're looking at st. thomas 5 inches. and even san juan over 9. everything in purple is 10 inches plus and we think we could see up to 18 inches in the mountain. that's a land slide threat no doubt. anderson this is going to get worse before it gets better. they got a recession since 2006. unemployment's 10.1, they filed bankruptcy and you toss a
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situation like this, there could be widespread power outages. they didn't get to restore the power from the last system. >> yeah, they got hit hard just by irma. san juan itself looks like that maybe in a bad position when maria makes landfall. >> it's the worst possible position. here's the european model and the u.s. and we'll put them together it will start to widen somewhat. european is offshore more but watch happens, the european and the u.s. want to toss it towards the northeast and that's where jose has been trying to dry out. we didn't even see the wind and the surf with jose cause numerous cancellations and delays. >> i appreciate it. given the magnitude of what tom laid out, the governor is urging people of puerto rico to find shelter. our senior international
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correspondent is in east dell mora on the southeastern side of prosecutor. what are the conditions like right now? >> reporter: we've had the wet rain picking up in the last couple of hours or so. behind me you can't see these houses which is beach front houses. it's the sand of the beach where we shall at 8:00 see the last landfall of hurricane maria. the derivative here from -- you can see on the side of the road, trees still attacking down, damage still evidence. the we is are people still braced after irma and have a potential to avoid the damage of maria or weakened because of it. hurricane irma was 50 miles out to see, still devastation. maria is suppose to go straight
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through puerto rico. on to land behind me. the hurricane center suggesting it picked up speed. so potentially 175 miles an hour, devastating. suppose to go across the island to san juan. people here are trying to seek some form of shelters. they've been told to get away from flood areas. we could so a storm surge, that's when the hurricane itself pushes large volumes of water ashore. the storm surge could be 11 feet. people here moving away from here, bizarrely, anderson you see people racing to the beach to get a last view of this storm heading towards the shore. certainly 500 shelters in place. concerned earlier today they weren't filling up. this has also been a haven people fleeing other islands hit by irma two weeks ago.
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how severely have these very very severe warnings been taken by those on puerto rico. >> you said there are shelters, there are shelters for people if they want to leave their homes and seek higher grounds and a safe area? >> reporter: yes, absolutely. of course we don't know exactly what the effects of this storm will be. we're hearing concerns about flood risk areas. san juan, shelters around there, the convention center where people are being moved into if they need to go there. the florida issue i think is how serious are the warnings being taken. we've seen water sales, two ways per shopper. we saw earlier on with gas stations and cues. the message is out t broader issue is how severely people are
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taking it. we don't know the scale of what we're going to see in the next two days or so, quite what needs to be don to be kept out of harm's way. we're going to continue to track the storm and bring you the latest throughout the caribbean tonight as maria approaches, and more from mexico city. a new development in the russian investigation, you'll only see it here. stay tuned for that. when you're close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with taltz. taltz is proven to give you a chance at completely clear skin. with taltz, up to 90% of patients had a significant improvement of their psoriasis plaques.
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tonight another cnn exclusive in the russian investigation. the counsel into the trump's investigation, paul manafort. evan joins us now. what have you learned? >> anderson, special counsel robert mueller investigator are reaching to 2006 on crimes of paul manafort. it's one of the pressures mueller's team is putting on the trump campaign chairman and mueller's team going well beyond the russian meddling during the campaign. as we reported yesterday, manafort has been the subject of an fbi investigation for years
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including wiretaps. he's emerged as a focal point. manafort's spokesman declined to comment. but manafort's denied any wrong doing. >> why all way back to 2006? >> well, the period as mentioned in the search warrant covers much of the decade manafort was working as a consultant for ukraine's ruling party. it's that work that prompted the interest of the fbi. in manafort the party was accused of corruption and the fbi were trying to figure out whether any american consultants were involved. >> i know you have new details? >> right the search was unusually hard. sources tell us it began before dawn as manafort and his wife lay in bed. the fbi entered with guns drawn and insisted on searching for
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weapons. it's something that was jarring no doubt to the manafort. >> is there any sense whether he's going to charged? >> well, we're told mueller's team warned manafort they're working to charge him with possible tax and financial crimes. that's an indication this investigation could be in an advanced stage. none of that is about election meddling which is what this is supposed to be about. mueller's office has subpoenaed records from manafort from agencies during that search. we also know his spokesman has testified to a grand jury this past weekend. joining me jeffrey tube man, john dean and ken. jeff, first of all what do you make about the new investigation going back? >> well, it's just more hardball. unlike the search warrant it's shows how desperately they're trying to get something on
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manafort. there have been a lot of recent changes in crime laws that ek tend the statute of limitations for ten years and perhaps longer. the mueller team has a lot offlect in what cases they want to charge. if you're talking about tax offenses, even if the misconduct took place in 2004 or 2005, if the tax return is not filed in 2006, '7 or '8 you can still make a tax case out of it. >> jeff, if they're looking at manafort's financial records that far back, would they be looking at president trump's as well? >> they could be. one of the $64 question about the mueller investigation, which i'm not aware of answer to, is have they gotten healed of president trump's tax returns. certainly as prosecutors they have a right to get it and it would not be public if they got it. president trump might not even know if they got it. they have a right to get it,
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there's a process prosecutors can use. >> john dean you're in a position to know about the presidential also lie fields during such high-profile investigations. what do you make of these new details and what cards do manafort might have left? >> well, i think the card they want to see from him is that he reveals what ever he knows about trump and the other higher ups involved in the russian collusion. i'm trying to find a historic parallel, there was argyle play during the whitewashing investigation, nothing like this during watergate investigation, owner the fact the judge played hardball. he put 40 year sentence on first offenders to crack them. this is clearly at the prosecution level and very unusual. >> ken, the idea that the fbi went in with guns drawn to
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search his wife, it is pretty surprising. >> yeah, i don't agree it's standard procedure, there are different levels of invasion. they have to control the premises. unless there was some reason to indicate danger to the officers or even the possibility of it, of course safety comes first when you're exercising a warrant, but i have a hard time imagining any good reason for going in heavy like that. i also am have surprised at how far back and how far a field mueller's investigation is going. to the extent information exist about the potential for a criminal activity by paul manafort back in '06, '7, '8, '9, '10, et cetera it should be handed over to federal prosecutors not mueller. this is going over the scope of his role as a special counsel.
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>> it's hard to see the basis of what mueller is doing, but if he is investigating manafort for his ties to russia that would suggest a motivate for his involvement with russia during 2016 captain. so as long as the investigation dealing with his relationship with russians and people like -- or the ukrainians who are affiliated with the putin regime, i don't think there's any problem. if you look at the jurisdiction that rod rosenstein gave mueller it's broad and within his rights to do this. >> ken, do you think under the marches orders the mission was too broad? >> well, i do think -- i assume the folks in the department investigation think it was written too broadly. just in a proper manner of the boundaries that should have been drawn. jeff may be right in terms of looking for motivate. but if you're going that far a
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field you're away from the heart of the case and from what you got from the heart of the justice department to investigate. i think this is well-beyond the line. we won't all know it or have the facts to deal with it perhaps ever, but certainly not until this process is over. then you're looking back and going, oh he shouldn't have done this. >> john, this could be a -- to get manafort to clip. >> i think it is. they probably have a whiff of something and they're trying to smoke it out, so they have put no real boundaries on themselves to try to turn him. hardball often works in situations like this. we have no idea what the man's breaking point is. his family is now involved as well. his wife was there with him at the time, so this is pretty ugly stuff they're dealing with. >> but sometimes it doesn't
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work. can a star locked up susan macdue gal for months for refusing to cooperate and she never cooperated. we'll take a quick break. president trump's legal bills are piling up. someone other than the self-proclaimed billionaire is picking up at least some of the tab. you might be surprised to know whose paying for it. ♪ the all-new volkswagen tiguan with available pedestrian monitoring. the new king of the concrete jungle. 83% try to eat healthy,
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as president trump is facing is ongoing investigation to russian meddling the 2016 election, we're learning about
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whose footing some of the president's legal bill. cnn's learn the rnc spent $250,000 on the president's fees just in a month alone. who have you found out about this. >> reporter: yeah that's right, last month, the republican national committee began paying the president's personal legal bills stemming from this investigation. the rrk nc paid $230,000 to two of the president's personal attorneys. all of this is coming from the rnc's own legal fund, so not from their general campaign coffers that go to their political activities. this does raise the question about the president and why he need to go out and seek outside help to pay for his legal bills. the president has claimed the
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net worth of $10 billion. >> i understand they also paid for donald trump jr.'s legal fees or some of them right? >> reporter: that's right, an rnc official also telling me donald trump jr., his attorneys receiving payments just this last month. trump junior not only getting his legal bills covered by the trump campaign but also but the committee. trump junior is in this because of the meeting last summer when he met with an attorney he believed was providing critical information about hillary clinton from the russian government. >> so is that money being donated by citizens who wanted to donate to the campaign? >> so, that's one thing the rnc wants to be very clear about, it is coming from this legal fund the rnc already had.
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you have to actually donate to that specifically. a lot of times what happens is large donors who come in with a maximum contribution will donate to varies accounts within the rnc. they're money is not going towards this. joining me now is jeffrey tube man. john dean, and ken kuch nellie. this is legal? >> it is legal. as long as the legal fees relate to an investigation of the campaign it's legal. the rnc couldn't pay donald trump's legal fees to do his estate planning or relating to -- you know an adoption or something unrelated to the campaign. but, and it is true this is related to the campaign. the question is sort of more one of appropriateness about whether a billionaire should be calling
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on campaign continue butters to pay legal fees he could be paying himself. >> john, do you think it's appropriate? >> yeah, i'm a little surprised to suspect how easy it is to get some donors to donate to this. they heard all the same thing the the rest of us heard about the president's network during the campaign. clearly he's a big boy and can handle this himself. i think he's as probably as we've seen many times, he's ticked off by it all, and he probably feels like, you know, why should i have to do this. i think this president respond to that. so, i think that may be where some of it is coming from in terms of accept that kind of help, even when he's capable of handling it himself. >> the idea that the rnc paid some of donald trump jr.'s bill, he was a surrogate on the
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campaign and i guess it would be a justification for them to do that. does that make sense to you? >> yeah there's been questions from the chairwoman on the rnc about what would and wouldn't be appropriate. she doesn't have a rule at this time other than the fact that it was put in for general defense as contemplated. this was for election defense matter, not for a white house or the son of a president being investigated for connection with russian hacking. so, we don't really know. i suspect where w this news out somebody night bring a lawsuit and test it. thanks everyone. more now on the earthquake. destruction in mexico city intensive. here's what it looked and sounded like when it struck.
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we also saw a number of buildings collapses. joining us now from mexico city, freelance journalist owe wen grillo. what are you seeing around you right now. >> reporter: so, right now i'm at the scene of a damaged building. the rescue people are calling to silence to try to communicate getting rubble away from the scene. there's a building right behind us which is just collapsed, an pardon me block with various people living there. we don't have a number on how many people could be alive or dead in that building. >> if you need to be silent that's fine. >> hundreds of people come out to the street voluntary to help clear the rubble and try and save lives of the people inside. >> you know what, if they're calling for silence, you be the judge, they're far away from you i know, but i'm just wondering
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what -- what kind of damage you have seen? looks like citizens, looks like the rescue personnel on the rubble there but it's actually citizens whose have this buck agree good day to help remove some of the rubble. >> reporter: that's correct. there's a strong tradition in mexico of solidarity with earthquakes. there's a strong historic memory going back to 1985 when a devastating earthquake killed tens of thousands of people. it's been regular drilled seasons that time waiting for that disaster to happen again and today it has happened again. people came out on the street in the thousands all around. the damage is devastating from what we've seen. just around from where i live, literally 50 meters from my house, an pardon me block was flatten flattened like a bomb had hit
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it. every where you look you can see damage from minor damage to shattered glass to buildings destroyed. if you look around at some of the people here, you can see they're passing buckets, taking rubble away, looking, searching for bodies, searching for people. now it's only been some seven or eight hours since the earthquake so many people could be there injured, struggling for their live, ultimately in need of medical help. earlier i saw a man running with a young girl, she looked maybe 7 or 8 years old with her in his arms running for an ambulance. so you got people and families around here devastated, worried and stressed looking for their children, looking for their parents and loved ones. >> in terms of -- it's obviously getting dark there now, do rescue workers have lights
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they're able to bring in? i'm wondering how organized are the authorities? they're calling for silence right now so we're going to move on and come back to you later on. that's the scene right now. just ahead the president trump's fiery speech to the u.n. and hey, unmanaged depression, don't get too comfortable. we're talking to you, cost inefficiencies, and data without insights. and fragmented care, stop getting in the way of patient recovery and pay attention. every single one of you is on our list. at optum, we're partnering across the health system to tackle its biggest challenges.
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president trump spoke to the
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world today, for anybody wondering whether he would borrow from tweets, you /*, you can rest assured that's what he did. as the senior u.n. official put it to our jim sciutto. here's a small sample. >> as president of the united states, i will always put america first. just like you as the leaders of your countries will always and should always put your countries first. if the righteous many do not confront the wicked few then evil will triumph. the united states has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself for
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its allies we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. >> well, the president also put iran on notice calling the nuclear deal of the u.s. an quote, embarrassment to the united states. the speech set off a rave reaction. on the right, the national reviews rev larry opened his piece with this. quote. as someone said on twitter never have their been so much murmur. with that in mind i get stevens take. tom overall i'm wondering what you made of the president's speech today. >> it's a world view that i just don't share, world view the
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president articulated is america first. i think what became a prosperous and secure country since world war ii in particular by being connected. i think the network that's become the center of our lives and what flows through it, deals, trade, opportunities, the company most connected to the networks is going to be to most thriving and secure. i think the speech was larded with continradictions. the president has said the first thing is sovereignty. one attempted to ask president trump, really. he is yet to really condemn that, and the other contradiction is he basically signal that he wants to rip up
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the iran deal, and apparently tends to do so, the iran nuclear deal, the one that denuclearizes i van effectively. and at the same time, we're going to persuade north korea to voluntary give us its nuclear weapons. you're sitting in north korea, you see the united states struck a deal with iran, iran gave up its nuclear option and now the united states want to tear that up. that's not going to work in great harmony with north korea d diplomacy. >> to sort of echo something else he said during campaign, sort of not dictating to other countries or not about world's policeman but not trying to change or nation build in other countries. is that something which -- do you think he actually believes that? because obviously there are many countries where the u.s. is involved with and is trying to vick take terms on how they
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should behave and what they should do. >> yeah, it's not particularly thought out. obviously we're telling the iranians how to behave but not the saudis. both of them have problematic domestic issues as far as we're concerned and even international ones. so, none of it, anderson feels deeply thought out to me. it starts with a kind of, you know catch phrase, america first. and then it attempts to build a kind of global foreign policy around it. it doesn't strike me as very deep and it flies in the face of how we built a world that has been largely peaceful if one looks at the broad span of world history and made us largely prosperous every since world war ii. what do you think are the odds that every one of our statesman -- our greatest statesman since world worth 2
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who built american prosperity and security on making a much inclusive work, shaped around our values and interests that they got it all wrong but donald trump and breitbart got it right. >> it's some people that will say look, this keen of threat, it will work. nothing else have seemed to have worked. >> i want to take up that specific point because i think they have a point. i know rock man is kind of juvenile, but might be biehind s it a feeling we need to shrink this guy in north korea, not build him up, put a nickname on him. making him afraid of what trump may or may not do-of-a problem with that. the real question is is there a long-term strategy other than living with north korea with a nuclear bomb. are we really ready to go to war over that, i just don't know. i sense so anderson in what the
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president said whatever in the last 24 hours, we may be approaching a point where we'd say to the north koreans the next rocket or ballistic missile you test near one of our allies, particularly klechina and south korea, we're going to take out the launcher. then you put the north koreans in a position if they decide to be taking out the launcher they'll end up doing a process of their on suicide. the other thing that made me slightly hopeful that this doesn't have to come to a vinyl solution in peninsula is the fact that north korea is ruled by three generation of tsame family. that suggestions to me this family is not suicidal it's homicide dal. i do believe it gives us a room
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for maneuver. it suggests at the end of the day these guys aren't if the business of creating suicide. >> tom thank you very much. we're following closely the earthquake outside of mexico and maria which could be the stronger storm to make landfall in puerto rico in 35 years. next.
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an update from mexico city shortly. we'll also continue to follow hurricane maria. we'll watch it all through the night. in the meantime, as people in puerto rico and throughout the caribbean are bracing for this category 5 monster, we have richard up flying and around hurricane maria.
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at this point that's storm doing? is it getting stronger? >> well, anderson, at this moment it looks like its leveled off in intensity. unfortunately it's leveled off at an extreme level of intensity. it's been getting stronger throughout the entire day. it's been getting stronger ever since this went over dominica last night and reemerged back over the waters of the eastern caribbean. the pressure dropped all the way down to 909 millie bars, which is historically low for this portion. caribbean. winds are at 175 miles per hour sustained with higher gusts than that. so it's just about as bad as you could get, if you can imagine a worst case scenario for puerto rico, that's pretty much what we have tonight. >> that's incredible.
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175 miles an hour sustained. what about the organization? how does it compare to other storms this season? >> it is a classic hurricane in e every sensor of the word. we're flying above the storm right now through the upper portions at 45,000 feet. if you can imagine a hurricane like a fireplace in your home, we are essentially flying through the chimney of the hurricane in the outflow of the storm. and it is pretty much a perfect outflow, so all the mass that's coming in to the center of the storm is coming out the top like a chimney. right now there's nothing to restrict the intensity of the storm. it's over very warm water. there's nothing shearing the storm. unfortunately i wish i had better news for the folks in puerto rico, but all indications from the data we have are that
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the national hurricane center forecasts is right on track. it's heading straight for the island. at category 5 intensity. >> with the storm of this strength, did you fly through the eye of the storm as you have with others or stayed at the outer bands? >> in this particular aircraft, the g 4 that flies at 45,000 feet, we cannot fly through the eye wall into the eye with this aircraft. that's what we do with the p 3, an airplane that's a four-engine turbo prop. that's the one that gets the roller coaster ride. we're in the chimney and all of that mass coming out of the top of the storm creates turbulence at our level, but not nearly
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with the p 3 encounters in the eye wall at low altitudes. >> i appreciate what you and all your colleagues at noaa do. you get us the information that help us track this. the lets a on the deadly earthquake that hit mexico today. we'll be right back.
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deadly earthquake hits one of the biks cities on earth and one of the strongest hurricanes on record takes aim at u.s. territory. first the quite. even on water you can see the force of it. >> oh, my gosh. this is a bad idea to be on this boat.
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>> wow. >> i fear for my life. >> magnitude 7.1 centered in the mexican state of puebla. large destruction there and just to the north in mexico city, this is another video. we see the effects on a build. [ speaking spanish ] >> many other buildings came down or where badly damages. upwards a 100 people have died. that's the number known so far, but that number is climbing. that wasn't the o


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