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but will sideways eyes and twitching lips tell some? >> not going to discuss that issue at all. >> cnn, new york. >> body language can say a lot. ac "360" begins right now. this is cnn breaking news. >> good evening, breaking news tonight along with the time of news that takes time to emerge after any natural disaster. two days later finally seeing what millions of mexicans know up close, enormous scope of the earthquake destruction there. and in puerto rico rain and flooding following hurricane maria is taking on as one of our forecasters put it, hurricane harvey proportions. on top of the wind damage. entire island without power. covering the quake and island extensively. new forecast track for maria. allison? >> brand new update at top of
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the hour and increased in wind strength. 125 miles an hour. that is five miles an hour off from category 4 storm. track over the next couple of days continue to take it out over the open atlantic towards the united states. ultimate question is how close does it actually get? at this point in time take it out to thursday, one week from today. at this point a direct u.s. landfall doesn't look likely. but with that said, still impacts from the storm. all of the models get close enough. that's the key. from north carolina up towards maine could be looking at coastal flooding, beach erosion and gusty winds. >> immediate areas of concern are where? >> immediate areas, places like still puerto rico. we still have some of the outer
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bands impacting areas of puerto rico. albeit the heaviest bands are currently over the dominican republic. but puerto rico, the amount of rains already had, comparable to texas, hurricane harvey. garcia picking up almost 37 inches of rain and lomas nearly two feet. some in 36 hours. all of puerto rico is under flood or flash flood warning. but also have to push it forward. dominican republic and turks and caicos are in the threat for heavy rain in the next 24 hours. >> it's incredible that all of puerto rico is under threat for flood or flash flood warning. remarkable. on op of that, all without power. >> yeah. it is a rarity to have entire island or entire state to be under something like that. goes to show just how much rain fell in such a short amount of
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time. >> and still coming down. more on maria in a few minutes. now to mexico, hard reality is becoming clearer, death toll approaching 300 as crews pull more bodies from the quake rubble. and survivors as well. rescues happening around the clock and welcome news from the collapsed school. no little girl was trapped. authorities late today said all children whether survived or not have been accounted for. reporting on rescue efforts, joining us now. do we know why there was confusion about whether or not survivors were trapped? just the disorganization of the effort? >> reporter: it's hard to say. seems to be the leading causes. lot of the collapsed building spread out in pockets throughout the massive city and in each locations different groups of people, volunteers, mexican army and navy, rescue teams deploying
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themselves into the situations. perhaps all of that lends to the chaos. today we were up close into one of the rescue efforts in one of the more popular neighborhoods in the heart of mexico city. the search for survivors is not over. brigades of civilian volunteers swarmed this mexico city neighborhood more than two days after the earthquake. this was seven story building that collapsed and right now they believe there's a man trapped inside a car underneath the heavy machinery over there. military officials believe there were 12 people inside the building when it crumbled to the ground. mexican army general federico solarcano is overlooking the rescue operations. only two survived. now urgent search for a man
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named roberto. they dropped a microphone into the space and using amplifier to hear his voice. we think he's there. after a moment of silence, workers erupt in a loud cheer. reason you heard the workers erupt into a loud cheer is they made contact. heard the voice of the man believed to be trapped inside the car and celebrating that one brief moment in hopes they will be able to pull him out alive. these rescue efforted supported by largely improvised system created by thousands of volunteers. supply station opened in middle of rotunda and feverish frenzy in the air. a private bus company loads dozens of volunteers to take them away. people have shown up here in this square in the heart of mexico city, this bus is going to the state of morelos which
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needs help. all thez people volunteered to help and no idea when they're coming back to mexico city. when the bus pulls away headed on its mission, the crowd cheers. across mexico, the urgency to move mounds of rubble is relentless. feel each piece they move by hand brings them one inch closer to saving a life. >> and as you said, ed, so much spread out, how are rescue efforts going in other parts of the city? >> reporter: the mexican president says they believe ten locations left where they believe that -- last we heard had been no ability to get to that person as of yet. so still unclear how that situation was going to turn out. these rescue operations and volunteer efforts, just absolutely mesmerizing over the city as all these people turn out to sites. many wearing hard hats and oftentimes feels like in chaotic
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moments anyone with hard hat feels like they're boss of a particular space in the city. adds to the chaos of what we're seeing around the city and country. >> and ed, just in terms of the kind of expertise they need, seeing a dog there used, could be looking for live people or cadaver dog, both specialized working dogs. do they have enough specialized people? i know rescue crews have come from probably all over the world at this point. >> the team from california that the u.s. embassy told us was arriving today and in that particular location we saw a combination of mexican army, mexican navy, federal police and mexico city police working inside in the more immediate area of that rescue operation taking place. so yes but it's hard to sense
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there's a central organized committee that is organizing and dispatching all these rescue teams. seems like in each location efforts are improvised, some officially and some unofficially. >> thank you ed lavandera. more of what goes into what you see. head trainer at search dog foundation. thanks for being with us. some dogs are specifically for finding people who are alive and some for finding people deceased, is that correct? >> that's true. but i'm not sure which dogs are working right now. and whether the big question to ask is have these dogs been certified, the teams, handler and dog, to a national standard or are they just deploying? not sure who is working the site you're looking at. >> and with bomb sniffing dogs,
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difficulty is overusing they will. get tired out in sense of smell. can be used for short periods of time and need rest. is that the same here? >> i wouldn't say short periods of time. certainly depends on how warm it is outside, how humid. things like that. but in the environment in mexico city right now, i would think they could do some good work. certainly an hour if not more. these dogs are so highly driven. and they're conditioned to believe that the person in that rubble that's trapped his their toy. which -- and these dogs are over the top toy driven. so that is what motivates them. frankly, the good search dogs we have to hold them back. i mean, that's all they want to do is run up on the rubble and find that inaccessible live human scent and they're trained
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specifically to ignore deceased victims and focus on live and do a sustained bark alert where the odor is coming out of the rubble. >> this is a dumb question but what is the smell they're particularly looking for with laving person? sweat or -- >> i would say breath. it's respirations. that is the distinguishing odor. but you know in addition to that, there's biological changes that happen immediately once a person is deceased. and so that's not what they're looking for. >> but smell of breath, not sound of somebody breathing or voice, it's the smell of the breath? >> that's correct. it's a whole scent plume coming off that person that is alive. as well as dead. >> even if buried deep beneath rubble? >> yes. it gets more complex where the plume comes out and how many
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twists and turns. it's going to follow the concrete and come up through a breach in that concrete and keep until it goes up in the daytime, hot outside, sun out, heat rises. at night, further into the evening, it starts to fall. so those dogs will be working a lot from the bottom because scent is going to start dropping and pooling in low areas. >> i went out with l.a. search and rescue team in port-au-prince where earthquake there. astounding the hours working. they were trying to find a little girl whose mother said alive underneath the rubble. worked hours and hours. dog and listening devices and still hard to tell. think they heard a girl's voice. then toward the end after many, many hours didn't get any more sign and dog wasn't signaling
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anymore. are you surprised by the fog of war aspect to this we're seeing in mexico city? reports that still children trapped alive underneath the school and that just seemed -- today we learned that's actually not the case. everybody has been accounted for. >> i'm not surprised. it happens every time. well intentioned people working around the clock, fatigued, hopeful, and you know, they hear things and it's just what happens. you know. but that's why you can spend a lot of time in an area that there's no hope right there right now. and the dogs, i mean the dogs don't have that. they are conditioned that this is the scent and odor that gets me what i want. and there's no false influence there. certainly you have variances in abilities and training and exposure but it's not a false
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read. they're the only ones -- that's only tool we have out there that can find somebody who is unresponsive. >> it's incredible. >> they can't always answer back or tap when you ask them to. we know at this hour, as many days as we're in, thirsty, mouth is full of powder and concrete and rust and dirt. hollering out is last thing they can do. >> i had no idea it was breath they were responding to. sonja, appreciate your expertise on this. hope there's more people to be found. thanks so much. up next, island of dominica, more than a dozen people have died. team arrived today. going to check in with them. devastation dramatic. also robert mueller asking for documents, i'll talk it over with general michael hayden.
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peyton walsh from puerto rico, san juan. what is the latest there nick? >> anderson, this is the first night since had taking in the damage first visible at dawn this morning. day without power, first potentially as -- potentially as long as four to six months without electricity here. and of course that is radically changed how people view the months ahead. how to work, go to school, what health care is available to them. amount of knowledge they have. cell phones not working. when is the airport going to open? hope it may be tomorrow. also how fast were the winds that ripped through here, 155 miles per hour. some of the images we saw yesterday and today about the level of destruction. 30 hours on and this is what maria's embrace of puerto rico has left. this was not a world built on
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water, but it's become that. waves in the roads. wet feet and slow moving, the new normal. the drive from where we saw maria make landfall in the east to the capital san juan along highway 3 is a testament to how vicious and thorough nature was setting life back here. paradise lost for years likely. hold close what you still have, an eternity of downed power cables explaining why it may take six months to restore power. took hope too, even the fins torn clean off wind powered turbines, communities shredded entirely. and as we approach san p san juan, roads turn into rivers, forcing many to turn back. people are trying to get back to normal but really everything has changed. no electricity for months ahead
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means changes in jobs, schooling, health care, a whole new way of life potentially this island has to get used to. even the bright paint cannot hide the misery maria brought. its name means the pearl but music video was shot bringing recent fame. but now everything is damaged in old fishing village. roberto hopes the trump promise of aid will bring his old world back. it's incredible he says by the cliff. but i believe in god, we can do anything with the help of god. >> nick, in terms of air travel, airport may open tomorrow? >> reporter: that is the hope. appears to be some damage there. constantly fluid situation but vital to get it running not simply because of the supplies needed to get into here and assistance people need but st.
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croix has also been heavily hit and needs assistance. lot of people hoping for aid to start coming in but bear in mind, it's first day people have had to take stock of how awful maria has been to this island add how their daily lives will change in the months if not years ahead. >> it's extraordinary damage. just after the storm hit, mayor of san juan saw the damage in her city and was understandably emotional. >> i'm 54 years old, never seen devastation like this one. the human spirit is going to have to rise up real high. i'm sure we have the strength but we have to find it within ourselves. people have to push on, change their frame of mind. puerto rico and san juan we knew yesterday is no longer there. >> just before air time i spoke with mayor cruz.
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you said earlier that puerto rico and san juan, the puerto rico and san juan you knew yesterday is no longer there. that's an incredible statement. you really feel like the city you know and love is no longer there? >> not only do i feel it, but since last night at 6:00 when 200 crew members of municipal employees went into the streets and as we're doing today, seeing a totally different san juan. resilience of the people is the same. lot of people saying we're going to make it, push on, but the landscape is just disastrous, devastation like i've never seen before. which has brought out solidarity spirit that we had forgotten. telling somebody today if we're going to rebuild and reconstruct which we have to do, ought to do it with the appropriate priorities and ought to use this
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opportunity to change the conversations that we're having the and the way we feel and handle one another but mr. cooper, what i'm more worried about is man and womanpower is not enough. >> you need that help. you need federal help. as much from outside as possible. >> we need the help from the outside world. i am very grateful that the first help has come from new york and houston, particularly to the city of san juan. we had 1,264 refugees. by tonight only 425. but we're having, mr. cooper, what i call the urban refugees. people at home, elderly, don't have insulin, lost their heart medication, lost their blood pressure medication. if we don't get to them in time -- it is those that i
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cannot get to that really worry me the most. >> because it's not just people who are in hospitals, or some hospitals right now have backup generators even though not ideal situation. people who need regular dialysis, able to live at home but need that, regular access to prescription drugs. often those people who are hit the hardest at a time like this, there's no power at home and difficult to get outside to get the medication they need. >> exactly. special needs patients, small children, hiv patients, like you mentioned people with dialysis. and those that live in the most disadvantaged areas. we have a place called -- 26,000 people live there. most of them, their connections are not connected to sanitary pipes. when things like this happen,
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the sanitary conditions are terrible. and they happen with a normal rain. just imagine 25 inches of rain falling upon that. last night i was there, able to survey seven of those streets. i personally counted 53 homes with no roofs. that's just seven streets in the city of san juan with a population of 350,000 people. so any outside help that we can get is -- you know, it's music to our ears, a breath of fresh air, but it also lets us know we're not alone. what i've seen is that resilience that people have. maria hit us very hard but she is nothing compared to the force that we're going to unleash to reconstruct and rebuild this beautiful caribbean island. >> mayor cruz, i appreciate your strength tonight and wish you the best in the months ahead. thank you very much. >> thank you very much,
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mr. cooper. >> learning about the huge devastation on the island of dominica as well. seeing it firsthand, cnn the only news organization to get there and see the damage firsthand. michael, what is it like? >> reporter: apdson, we flew over the island yesterday and could see from the air every inch of this island was touched by hurricane maria. today we managed to get on the ground. power is out right across the island. we're in the prim minister's office because they have a generator and they generously allowed us to work out of here. i've been to lot of disasters and covered war zones, it's really bad here. not a building it seems in the country that has not been touched. every tree either knocked to the ground or had the foliage stripped off. three of the four bridges coming
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into the capital from the airport are unuseable because of the debris and damage. nationwide catastrophe. dominica was first hit. expecting cat 2 or 3, got cat 5. nobody is ready for that. tried to get people ready but it's mountainous country. individual villages and towns dotted around and they've been decimated. been to a number of places through irma and maria covering all of this, this is the worst i've seen. there is great need here. >> these pictures are extraordinary, block after block of destruction. what about supplies, aid to people? are there flights coming in with that? we haven't seen many people on the ground in the images. are people able to get food, water, basics?
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>> reporter: u.s. aide is on the ground, uk aide is on the ground. we've seen them but in terms of aid, they were expecting aid from st. lucia stay. it's trickle if anything. in desperate need of everything from food and water -- there's no running water here. prime minister traveling around the country, first thing everybody asked, fresh water, something to drink. the aid need is incredible here. they're going to need to start choppering things in, bringing in by boat. they have -- one other thing interesting, sort of speaks to the character of the people here. when irma went through, had three big containers in dominica full of splierksz food and medical aid. they shipped them off to other places, st. martin, tortola, in need. and shipped over power linesmen and electrical engineers to get power up on those islands.
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they get hit here, they have no backup, not even the aid in storage because they gave it to other places more in need. >> what did the prime minister say? >> he's shell shocked. he's a stoic and strong man but he's shell shked by the breadth of what has happened to his country and people. have a listen to part of the interview. >> every single village, every single community, every single street has been impacted by this hurricane. there's no community in dominica spared by this monster of a hurricane. >> reporter: and what he's saying there anderson is true from what we've seen. flyover was instructive yesterday, being on the ground makes it that much more real and
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impactful for us. but what we saw from the air flying around the entire island, village after village, mud slides we saw. it was a place of utter beauty. rainforests, starting ecotourism. can't see them anymore, gone. every tree is knocked down or stripped of foliage. economy is agriculture, cane sugar, citrus, everything is gone. that speaks to economic impact going to last for years. prime minister heading to u.n. ga tomorrow making cry for international assistance for that country. not only immediate needs but entire industry of agriculture and tourism they were trying to build up is gone. gone for years. >> are there still people living in shelters? so many damage, looks like a lot of places people won't be able
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to live in their homes. >> reporter: no. they're not. lot of homes just ripped apart. saw homes today coming in that were just splinters. pieces of wood on the side of the hillsides. sheltering with relatives and families, government buildings where they can but not a lot of places to go. pretty much everything around him has been damaged. so yeah, in the open. we saw people bathing in muddy rivers today. a leaky pipe and people gathered under that trying to get water. it's an urgent situation here. we brought in some stuff and were giving away just to try to lend a hand. if it goes on like this for a number of days without appreciable aid coming in going to be a real problem here in dominica. >> i'm glad you're there, we'll continue to bring reports. when we come back, breaking news on the russia probe, what
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there's breaking news in the russia investigation tonight. facebook says in matter of days
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give congressional investigators 3,000 political ads linked to russian accounts designed to influence the 2016 election. already turned over documents to robert mooul er. ceo mark zuckerberg also announced a great effort. is it clear what prompted facebook to provide the ads to congress? >> i think looking at change in tone going back to two weeks ago, refused to give them up, as opposed to now. reaction to public pressure and congressional scrutiny. at the same time i also think that facebook realized these are extraordinary circumstances. congress is trying to figure out not only full scope of russian meddling in the election but trying to figure out how to prevent it from happening in 2018, 2020, future elections. one last thing, for facebook, it's global company, not just
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american, and they have to think carefully about what is means to hand over data about private users to a government. slippery slope of this, whether or not another governments come over to facebook saying maybe you can hand this over to us in a different country. but no question anderson, immense public scrutiny and congressional pressure played a role here. >> have they said they regret the way the platform was drawn into this or said anyone can buy an ad, don't blame us? >> if you read between the lines of what zuckereri zuckerberg sa we regret that bad actors were able to use this platform in that way and we understand we need to take steps to tweak the platform, come up with new guidelines for how it works. i don't think saying regret creating a platform for people to buy advertising, in fact made
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a point that should be a place for free expression where anyone can say what they want and advertise the way they want to. but again look at public scrutiny and demands on facebook to be more than agnostic platform but public utility that has a certain moral compass, obviously taking that into consideration and are going to tweak that platform as he said today. >> dylan byers, thank you. joining me now is general hayden. how significant is it in terms of intelligence for congress and special counsel to have access to these facebook ads? what answers could they actually provide? >> i think it's actually very important, and the report we just heard is spot on. we're looking at collusion, is there guilt on the american side of this russian interference.
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we'll let that investigation go wherever it goes. but most importantly, we've got to understand what happened here. and what you just heard in that report suggests the level of sophistication that the russian federation used to influence, perhaps even affect, american election outcomes. more we learn about this, the better. this is a very positive step. >> reporting that special counsel has asked white house to provide documents for 13 different categories, at least some of which involve the president's own actions. firings of james comey, michael flynn, meetings with russian officials and comments made during that, what does it tell you about where the investigation is now and where it's headed? >> i try to reserve judgment on this anderson. can you imagine -- we don't have to imagine, we can see, this entire process as necessary as
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it is, and it is necessary, is debilitating on the administration's ability to govern. it just gets in the way. director mueller has got to do two things. number one, get to truth as quickly as possible. but anderson, the second requirement, as least as important, when he finally reports out, everyone has to agree that the investigation has been exhaustive. that he's turned over every possible stone. because if he doesn't do that, we don't put this behind us one way or another, and that really hurts american governance. >> how significant do you think it is that federal authorities were able to get two feiza warrants to wire tap paul manafort and -- manafort had encouraged the russians to help with the campaign? >> you have one independent report separate from the electronic surveillance, talked
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about inviting a russian oligarch in for inside baseball on the campaign. >> oleg deripaska. >> i put this off to one side. i'm not in government, i don't know the fine print and they wouldn't tell me. but we have to be precise with language. two kinds of warrants we use to conduct surveillance on american person, one is fisa, foreign intelligence surveillance fact. prove that foreign power. other is warranty for potential criminal activity. i suspect what we're talking about here is law enforcement against mr. manafort for tax questions, financial crimes potentially, perhaps not registering as foreign agent rather than the larger more important question for me, that
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of collusion. >> the chairman of the senate committee, republican, asking the fbi if it warned the trump campaign about hiring manafort. is that something that -- expected to do if they had concerns about manafort? >> the way i read the public record, warrant for surveillance for a certain period of time but dropped for lack of evidence and there's a period in which i don't know where the case is but certainly the warrant had expired. i think you'd have to actually think twice. do you have sufficient grounds to go to a candidate and accuse someone of something you're not prepared to prove? >> good point. general michael hayden, appreciate it. coming up next, latest gop obamacare replacement bill and
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in terms of fire? that's what this keeping them honest is about. senator graham and bill cassidy trying to pass alternative to the affordable care act. this is about the millions of people who might be affected about what is in the bill being told one thing when the truth at best is not so simple. one in four nonelderly adults in this country have preexisting mel medical condition. president trump has repeatedly promised any replacement would need to cover them. last night tweeted. says this does contain them. keeping them honest, that's true, only in name. still requires coverage but allows states to decide whether insurance companies to charge
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more for it. say how the changes would maintain access to affordable health insurance, doesn't define what it is. you can agree or disagree with the merits of it but far cry from federally guaranteed coverage at no extra charge period. what is in the bill is not top consideration for one republican senator. told des moines regster. i could give you ten reasons this shunt be considered but republicans campaigned on this soften that you have a responsibility to carry out what you said in the campaign. that's pretty much as much of a reason as substance of the bill. david is the health care to millions of people more about politics than policy? seems like one of the things senator grassley is implying. >> it's always about both. debate you have here to think
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about. do you believe that federal government, a unified central government is better at handling issues from states as diverse as maine to california or do you think should be 50 state laboratories, experimenting to figure out what fits best for their citizens? under the obamacare plan in place, four states get 40% of obama care dollars. suck up 40% of the money and left of the 50 states left to divide that small amount. under this new plan. states get block grants equally. pennsylvania gets -- twice as many citizens as massachusetts but 60% less dollars. talking about guaranteed care for everybody, preexisting conditions is incredibly serious subject and president has weighed in on it. this bill says must provide
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that. and block grants money to the states to do what they want. spend money on mental health, opioid addiction, as their state sees fit. >> christine, does it cover preexisting conditions? >> no. and shall and must completely different things in legislature. can't be both. two this gives clear waiver ability to states to not only waive requirement for preexisting conditions but also waive the requirement for full and essential health benefits, which is a fairly broad definition. and now the new argument from the republicans against obamacare is apparently this issue ever which states got most. but let's focus on other numbers. 32 million americans we believe will lose health care in nine years because of this bill. and 15 million americans in a year.
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that's basically two new york cities. >> where do you get the numbers? >> can't get from congressional budget office because your legislation hasn't been out there long enough. studies out there from aarp and people like rand corporation, not particularly political. rand corporation has done a study that indicates this bill and what the president and republican senators want to do will facilitate more veterans for being unemployed. so what's happened here is in zeal to keep a campaign commitment but then to break others, like preexisting commitment, a bill has been written that there isn't full knowledge of, we have data from outside experts, no time for congressional budget scoring, and americans quite frankly are at baeft having facts misrepresented to them and really lied to them about what this will cover.
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>> what about the preexisting conditions, do you not believe that some people will have the right to be covered that some people will have the right to be covered for pre-existing conditions but the cost of it will be prohibitive for them? >> i can't speculate on that. i would just be guessing. i'm not going to guess. it's possible, you're exactly correct. what is happening, insurers are leaving the state. they can't continue to provide insurance. >> sir, just a few seconds ago, you said that the legislation says that it must cover -- you sir said shall, and then you said must. you need to collar phi which it is. >> i didn't say must. >> it says shall is not a legislative requirement.
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i was the speaker of a city council. shall is like do your best, we hope you can, keep your fingers crossed. right there, instead of must, we're making it -- you're making it clear and i appreciate it. honest statement to americans that this bill does not lock solid require pre-existing conditions, beyond that. >> christine, listen. i will say this, it is proof the obama care is failing, senator sanders is -- >> we're not talking about that, sir. we're talking about this -- >> let david finish. we have to go -- >> senator sanders is out with a single pair plan, ripe evidence that obama care is failing. the same day graham cassidy is introduced. we acknowledge obama care is not great. we're going to go to single pair. should have kept the eye on the ball. if they believed it was a great plan, they should have shored it up. >> if you don't think obama care's great, that's one thing. if senator sanders thinks there's something better, this
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bill is going to hurt americans and it's going to throw sick people out of coverage that is life saving. this bill quite frankly is a disgrace to veterans and sick people. >> i'm sorry, we're out of time. >> there's going to be a vote on the floor, christine. >> and you're going to lose. >> we'll have you back. speaking of senator sanders, be sure to tune in monday night, cnn's jake tapper and dana bash, the fight over obama care. that's right here, monday, 9:00 p.m. eastern. the health care debate is nothing compared to what the president said to kim jong-un.
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the fight between north korea and the united states is turning more and more into a personal sparring match. kim jong-un fired off a volley of attacks on president trump. kim said president trump is mentally deranged. he also called him a dotard. a person who is in a state of senile decay. kim said he would make him pay
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dearly. what else did kim jong-un have to say? >> strong words there, it was in reaction to the speech earlier this week. specific words against the president. but he also went on to say this. the president has denied the existence and insulted me and my country in front of the eyes of the world. so that is something that hits at the heart of kim jong-un. he wants to be seen as a player on the world stage. not invited to the u.n. general assembly this week. his delegation walked out before the speech happened. they clearly are taking issue with this. interestingly, these statements are never released on camera, of course. just words from him. the words are a bit empty. but very interesting, fiery language. >> these additional sanctions against north korea. the president announced them
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today with the japanese prime minister at his side. >> this is the first time we've seen the president with people from the region there, announcing something together. this was something that the white house was planning all week. they had this up their sleeve, they've been working on these sanctions for a while. it was designed as part of a strategy here. the fiery speech earlier in the week. and then the sanctions. it was very significant to have the president and the prime minister from the peninsula there in new york city. the chinese president not here for the u.n. meeting, but also weighed in. that was the most significant thing of all. having the -- sort of a three-pronged approach here, the question is, what effect will it have, we've seen so many sanctions before. the trump administration does believe this will be a different moment here, because these sanctions really are stringent, we'll see. >> up next, the epic destruction in puerto rico.
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