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and its players causing some stir this morning. >> government to politics today in a couple of different ways. we'll talk about it. thank you so much. >> you're welcome. and the breaking news this morning we're starting with is seismic activity being detected in north korea near the area of the nuclear site. a magnitude 3.5 earthquake, china's earthquake administration says it is an expected explosion. this report, an official south korea's meet logical agency tells cnn that it was absolutely a natural earthquake, not a man made one but could be the site of the collapse itself. zoo is it normal to see discrepancies in reporting about
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the source of this kind of seismic activity? >> yes, of course. certainly we're seeing a range of -- for instance, magnitudes of this earthquake, 3.4 according to the chinese. 3.5 according to the united states survey and we have the problem that there's no one on the ground of north korea who can report this reliably. one official involved in nuclear matters is saying it happened about 31 miles away from the normal site where these tests have taken place. of course, the last one was on the 3rd of september and that was a 6.3 magnitude earthquake that of course subsequently the north korean authorities announced was the detonation of a hydrogen bomb, so this is a much smaller earthquake, but at this point we frankly do not know. according to the usgs it
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happened about 3.1 miles. that certainly in the past, there have been explosions at similar depths but as i said, it's not a the usual site and it's of a much smaller magnitude so indeed it could be something else but at this point people are scrambling to find out what it was and we haven't heard anything from the news agency, the official news agency of north korea and normally, shortly after these explosions we do hear these bombastic announcement on korean -- north coriian television announcing a successful test so i think we'll have to wait to hear what the north koroian authorities have to say. >> let me -- before we let you go etless's turn to iran and iran testing an intercontinental
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ballistic missile as well. this coming after the president says he's made a decision about the nuclear deal. any criticism of that deal and his indication that po ten ea-- potentially things could change. >> there's no indication that this test was tied to president trump's contest. it has a range of 1,250 miles and it's capable of launching multiple war heads. however, the iranians in the past have tested missiles that have a greater range, but certainly this -- the timing does make one wonder whether the iranians are concerned about president's talk about scrapping the 2015 nuclear deal between iran and the five permanent member os f the u.n. security council in germany, whether this
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is their way of saying we're going to go ahead with things and it's important to remind you of it does not touch on the iran's missile program. after the implementation did pass a resolution calling upon iran not to test any nuclear capable missiles for a period of eight years and the iranians con sis taeptly say their missile program is strictly defensive. all right. still appreciate your perspective there. thank you. >> let's go over to allison in the cnn weather center. show us where this happened and what we're learning from the usgs. >> they just put their report out. this is in the north western section of north korea. 3.1 miles. here's the direct statement from
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the u.s. geological survey. we cannot conclusively confirm the active nature of the event. they don't know if this was natural or a man made quake causing the tremor. the wave forms are different than previous emptss a t this site. they are trying to make that distanks which means they cannot say what the trigger was for this particular quake. the depth of this earthquake is poorly constrained and has been held to this. and again, at this point in time, the u.s. geological survey gone with 3.5, depth 5.0. as ben pointed out, lower than the previous ones. not just the one beginning of the month, which was the 6.3. even start going back years, in 2013, a 5.1. 2009, 4.7.
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2006, 4.3. again, this would definitely be if it turns out to be a man-made. certainly one of the lower end on the scale that we've seen in the last couple years. >> all right. alison chinchara. thank you so much for the explainer there. and president trump said it would be handled, but will the solution to the standoff be diplomatic or potentially military? >> and joining us now, political science professor at angelo state university and author of "north korea and regional security in the kim jong-un era." first of all, bruce, we've heard a lot of harsh words between the president and kim jong-un. what do you make of this escalation in some of the verbiage we've heard? because a lot of people are saying, this is something we have not seen before, between these two leaders. >> well, good morning. it's great to be here with you. i think probably -- the most important step we could take against the north koreans,
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to actually squeeze them and pus pressure on the regime occurred on thursday. so you're going to see a lot more rhetoric because of that, because what the president did with his executive order on thursday was, he took the steps for the state department, the treasury department and other agencies within the united states government to actually squeeze those banks, front companies and individuals outside of north korea enabling that twisted spiderweb of the financial network supporting nuclear weapons programs, missile programs and proliferation to people like iran. so i think today, as we're talking about this, i'm telling you that i think that was probably the most important step that's been taken. so despite the rhetoric, president trump actually has taken a step that will bring us closer to putting real pressure on the north koreans.
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i think coming weeks will be very interesting. >> professor, i want to stick with the breaking news in this seismic activity in north korea. chinese say it's potentially and explosion. south koreaings, international, not man-made. with ri yong ho, the foreign minister speaking at the united nations this morning. does this fit the typical modus operandi for north korea. the time to test a nuclear test there? >> a were question. it fits the modus operandi they would use, strong message, strong propaganda and if they did something like this, unprecedented. you know, last year was the first time they tested two nuclear weapons in one year. this would be testing two
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nuclear weapons within a few weeks and that would definitely be a big deal. something that your reporter out there did not bring up, although he really ran through the story very well. quite impressive. he did not talk about the possibility that this could be an accident. that's another thing that this could be. i hope that's not the case, because that would probably mean there was a great deal of human life lost, but that's another possibility. so, you know, if they tested it, one wonders why they tested it at almost half the magnitude of the last test. one would think they'd try and make it bigger. as you said quite well on your show earlier, a few minutes ago, we just don't know yet. there's still a lot of questions about the test that just occurred. >> and the accident, the possibility is a good one. talked a lot about a potential accident and what it could mean relating to missile launches especially going over the northern parts of japan, but we also need to remember that there's the potential here that this was an accident there
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again. the usgs doesn't know man-made or natural. south koreans say absolutely not man-made and thanks so much for being with us this morning. we'll lean on your expertise as this continues. >> thank you, sir. >> all right. and president trump is lashing out at arizona senator john mccain this morning saying he's letting his state down by saying no to the latest republican health bill. that's not all the president is saying, either. also, facebook now telling all the information about the social media, just might have influenced elections. the tech giant is handing over political ads linked to russia to congressional investigators, and the president had something to say about that, as you'd imagine. we'll tell you what. oth surface. the thing that's really important to dentists is to make sure that that enamel stays strong and resilient for a lifetime
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on twitter. how many tweets last five minutes? >> about five? >> five tweets, last 25 minutes. a lot to say starting with health care and john mccain. the senator dealt his party another setback on this new graham/cassidy bill. >> repeal and replace obamacare, now one no vote of failure. senator mccain gave it a thumbs down. moments ago what the president tweeted, john mccain never had intention of voting for this bill which his governor loves. he campaigned on repeal and replace. let arizona down. >> went on to say, large block grants is a better thing to do. let his best friend l.g., lin lindsey graham, down. he insulted north korean leader kim jong-un calling him little rocket man. meanwhile, the north korean foreign minister, a chance he'll speak at the united nations and
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of course, that comes days after threatening to detonate a hydrogen bomb over the pacific ocean. as the world tries to figure out what caused that unusual seismic activity measured in north korea just a short time ago. >> and iran knew this morning, test fires a new long-range ballistic missile itself. this despite, maybe in defiance, the president trump's latest criticism of the iran nuclear deal. >> and boris sanchez joins me from washington. the president went right in on kim jong-un resurrecting little rocket man. does this help or hurt? what do you hear from experts watching this exchange between the president and kim? >> reporter: victor, depends who you ask. some see his aggressiveness as a welcome change from previous administrations. others believe he is playing with fire. as you said, he repeated that moniker he has for kim jong-un
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calming him little rocketman. the crowd absolutely loved it as he went into that nickname. the president reiterated he does not believe a diplomatic agreement is possible with north korea, though he did tell the crowd that they should feel safe. that his administration was doing everything that they can to protect them. though he did go on to say that this is a problem, north korea that should have been handled decades ago. listen to more of what president trump said last night in alabama. >> by the way, rocket man should have been handled a long time ago. [ cheers ] he should have been handled a long time ago by clinton. i won't mention the republicans. right? but by obama. why did this, you know, this is a different -- this is a different time.
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>> and, of course, as you mentioned, victor, we're getting reports of unusual seismic activity in north korea today. this as a north korean minister is potentially going to speak at the united nations. also pointed out the news out of iran just days after saying that the iran nuclear deal is an embarrassment to the united states at the united nations, and saying that he has come to a decision on potentially undoing that deal but not revealing it. we get news from iranian press saying they've successfully tested intercontinental ballistic missiles that have a capacity to carry multiple warheads. as you said, the president is tweeting this morning. though he's only referred to health care so far. we'll keep an eye out and see if he tweets about these other countries. now thumbing their nose, apparently, at the united states, victor. >> yes. a short time ago when the president in arizona said that it appears that north korea is
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starting to respect the u.s. well, this exchange might challenge that. boris sanchez in washington, thank you. let's get back to what we're hearing from the president this morning. when it comes to twitter. he's unleashing on senator john mccain again after the senator likely stopped efforts to repeal obamacare but senator mccain, his side here, and he said in a statement, "he cannot in good conscience vote for the graham/cassidy bill repealing obamacare without knowing its impact." likely meaning republicans won't be able to repeal the health care law with a simple majority by the september 30 deadline here. and examiner reporter and josh rogin, political analyst in "washington post" columnist with me now. thank you both for being here. appreciate it. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning to you. i want to get back to this. what we're hearing from the president today. president trump saying, pointing out alaska has had 200% plus
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increase in premiums under obamacare. that arizona had a 116% increase in obamacare premiums and goes on to say i know rand paul, a and i think he may find a way to get there for the good of the party. selena what is the likelihood rand paul is going to help push this thing through? >> it's highly -- i mean, i think in this political climate, sort of anything is possible. maybe the president is hinting at negotiations between him and himself and his administration. so, you know, i guess we're just sort of at a wait and the see moment. now, i haven't seen all of the president's tweets, but one of the things that he has a tendency sometimes for hyperbole, but in this instance, he is correct. senator john mccain did -- all you need to do is go on youtube. he campaigned heavily on repeal and replace. and -- and as the president pointed out, and then also as
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the president pointed out that the arizona governor is supportive of this. these are things that mccain said would go into his decision. so, you know, i think he's trying to sort of nip at him for the things that he could have possibly had mccain go over the finish line on, on the bill. >> and when it comes to john mccain, at the end of the day he says he wants input from all committee members. wants it sent to the floor for debate. josh, why hasn't that happened? >> well, john mccain is simply at a point in his career and life, frankly, where he can't be bribed and can't be bullied. okay? he's standing up. not only for what he thinks is right but for the independence and power of his institution, the u.s. congress. and existential fight as he sees it with the executive branch. that is something that john mccain isn't going to change his mind on and something the president has shown no interest in engaging him on.
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so that being the case, there is no overlap here. and you know, for president trump supposed to be such a great negotiator and dealmaker, he's left to simply whine about john mccain's opposition to his plan to move this bill through the congress without any regular order or significant debate, without any cbo score without understanding of the impacts it can have on millions of people or the costs to the american taxpayer. that's a stalemate and that's not going to get resolved until or unless the president along with the senate leadership takes a radically different approach. >> last night president trump said in alabama about this, he said, i say we still have a chance. we're going to do it eventually. meaning, they are going to get this repeal and replace passed in some way, shape or form. how patient, though, selena, is his base going to be with this? >> on this issue they're probably going to be pretty patient. and here's why --
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up until the president and the republican house and senate started to tackle health care after the president was inaugurated, obamacare was incredibly unpopular. it only began to rise in popularity when people faced change. it's just human nature. you become accustomed to the devil that you know, as opposed to the devil that you don't know. what also has made this kind of interesting for the republicans, and for voters, and people who consume health care which is all of us, is that the democrats -- i should say barry sanders in a very sort of bad times moment unrolled his single payer program. some democrats have signed on. if you're not paying attention to this a lot, as obsessively as we do, voters may think, well, are my choices the republicans, repeal and replace, or is my
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choice single payer? and as opposed to sort of the difference between obamacare and the new republican bill. so i think that the -- that his base is not going to lose -- i think one thing that -- that to leave him on if he became part of the swamp. that's a really important nuance and you don't see any of that happening at this moment. >> all right. i want to move on to what's happening this morning as well with north korea, as we're getting reports that there was some sort of seismic event in north korea. very different reports. china saying it was due to an explosion of some sort. south korea saying, no. we believe this to be a natural earthquake. there are a lot of questions about what exactly it was. we know that it is between 3.4 magnitude and 3.0 magnitude based on some of the different agencies and what they've been able to measure, but let's listen here after all of the
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wicked back and forth between kim jong-un anden president trump this week, listen to what the president had to say just a few weeks ago about how he was starting to respect kim jong-un. >> kim jong-un, i respect the fact that i believe he is starting to respect us. i respect that fact very much. and maybe -- probably not -- but maybe something positive can come about. >> since he said that, josh, it seems that it has been downhill from that point on? what does the u.s. do with this? >> exactly right. i mean, you know, it's -- whether or not there was a nuclear test today or not we know the situation is profoundly dangerous and getting increasingly risky day by day. if not hour by hour. and the president's approach which is to sort of increase the
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rhetoric and threaten and cajole and ridicule kim jong-un, there's no way that that can help reduce tensions. now, the administration has a detailed plan of increasing pressure, working with allies. working with china to seek what ultimately has to be a diplomatic solution, because the only other alternative to diplomacy is war, but the president's bumbling on this and bumbling is the right word for it, it's just complicating everything. it's feeding north korea's propaganda. it's destroying alliance, cohesion and unity, sending mixed signals to enemies and allies alike and taken this extremely dangerous situation and making it even more dangerous, and that's not only unpredictable but irresponsible, and in my view, you know, this is at the point now where everybody needs to take a step back and focus on the two things we're supposed to be doing which is pressuring north korea and then seeking a diplomatic
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engagement. that's the only way at this point to avoid a steady path towards war. >> all right. thank you both so much. >> thank you. >> thanks. and i want to give you a programming note here. monday night here on cnn, an important conversation about your health care. republican senators lindsey graham and bill cassidy debating their health care bill live. moderating a fight over obamacare that is 9:00 eastern only here on cnn. now we want to take you to mexico. this is what's happening this morning. rescuers digging through the cement and the concrete there. the metal, to try to find anyone who survived days after the earthquake. just rocked those buildings down to the surface. we go live to one of the rescue sites, next. also, cnn is one of the first news outlets to make it to
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we always appreciate spending time with you in the morning. good morning. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm victor blackwell. seismic activity detected in north korea. it's not clear if it's an explosion or man made but near the country's nuclear site. >> and happened a couple hours ago as a couple agencies are trying to determine whether it was an accident, man made or an explosion from some sort of test from north korea, but it's raising fears of a new nuclear test after president trump and the north korean leader have traded insults and threats this
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past week, and also we need to tell you iran test fired a new long range ballistic missile hours after showing it off in a military parade. the launch comes despite, or perhaps in defiance, the president trump's latest criticism of the iran nuclear deal. now, this morning as well there are some frantic searches underway for any survivors after a devastating earthquake in mexi mexico. the death toll now approaching 300. looking at live pictures and there are families who, can you imagine, are just sitting nearby, holding out hope that the people they love that are still unaccounted for could be pulled out of that rubble. cnn's rosa flores is live near one of the collapsed buildings. i know that rescue workers are still hoping to find survivors as well. what are you hearing from them today? >> reporter: well, christi,
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agony, hoping and praying their loved ones are still alive behind me. this is one of the buildings we've been monitoring. a lot of activity here this morning and one of the big pieces of news here is that they're using giant equipment to move bigger pieces of debris off of this mountain of rubble. you can see a lot of rescue workers right now. they've been working on -- what looks like attaching that debris to a giant crane to lift it up and move it out. now, from what family members here tell us, they say they were informed by rescue workers that this will allow them to move quickly further down in to this building. it's unclear exactly how quickly they're going to be able to move, but i can tell you that from talking to some of these family members and rescue workers yesterday, they believe that if -- that the people who are possibly trapped here are in
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the back of the building. that the emergency exit was in the back of the building and that's where they hope that some of these people are alive and well, but christi and victor as you know, 90 hours now for the people who are trapped inside. family members have a tent city of sorts out here. they've been here waiting, hoping for news, and a lot of them say that they're not going to leave, because they want to make sure that the rescue workers, that the government of plaxico know that the people trapped inside are loved and that they want them rescued alive. that they don't want them to bring in giant pieces of machinery that could potentially collapse this building further. they only want these giant pieces of equipment to remove the giant pieces of debris that are on top so they can hopefully get to the people down below. >> we have seen those stories. where people have been trapped
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for days and able to be pulled out alive. most of us get it. think, if that was somebody we loved i wouldn't move either. rosa flores, thank you so much. we know the names and there are a lot of people who will never forget those names. irma and maria, the two powerful hurricanes that ruined much of the u.s. island of st. croix and others, but now on that island the people who live there say that everyone there is just trying to survive. >> and the thing that makes it so tough is there's still no power there. a lot of times no way to communicate. cnn's nick paton walsh is one mpt first to reach the island since hurricane irma hit. take a look. >> reporter: remote wells of day dreams and caribbean sand. st. croix suffering silent so far. the u.s. aid is only just reaching now. >> remain on this frequency. >> reporter: that is fema flying over st. croix today.
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making their assessment, and we have just flown in from the east where damage looks less heavy, but out west, appears to have borne the brunt of hurricane maria from beach resort to ghost town in a matter of hours. a curfew entering the streets the exact time this world changed caught by the clock's broken hand. but at noon, they and their anger, nature and government they think is underplaying their suffering emerges. >> like everything is okay. everything is not okay over here. >> it ain't no aid. it ain't nothing going on right now. no. everybody just trying to survive. >> reporter: just two days ago this was paradise, but now everyone here is just trying to take stock of exactly what this new world means for their daily lives. when will the power come back? when can they reopen their business, and when will they realize, again, that worries about what they have to eat. already the search for feed. >> i think the worst was when
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the rain started coming in and the winds were still howling and just noises outside and not knowing. >> we've been curfewed in. >> reporter: this couple went to help after hurricane irma yet had their house torn apart by maria. they drive us around their devastated world. >> they told everybody to let their horses go before the storms. >> reporter: this is not a world prepared for disaster. the lost, no electricity means no ice or business and beans in the refrigerator. >> the first, dodging trees and poles trying to get there. took the generator what we could and they wouldn't let us come out here yesterday. we were hoping there wasn't any looters. >> survived. trying to make the best of it. >> tell me your song? >> what is it? ♪ i'm still standing, yeah,
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yeah, yeah ♪ >> reporter: vacations here, that's gonants we went to placa extra, the big grocery store on the west end and the line is all the way out to the road. letting people in one at a time. >> it's going to look like this for months and months with no power. how are we even going to be able to get tourists down here so we can make a buck so we can buy food, buy gas? i mean, what the hell are we going to do. >> reporter: the west, took the full force of maria, being remotes has been their livelihood for tourism but is now their curse. we fly over huge lines for emergency food. but when we land later, it is all gone. 500 fed, but many still searching. are you hungry? >> yeah, man. >> reporter: getting supplies. >> i'm a soldier like you. >> reporter: later we see two huge c-17 cargo planes land at the airport where the u.s. marines are moving in as yet
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limited access to the west. . he help is coming. future remains bleak and the past, a much more comfortable place. nick paton walsh, st. croix, the united states. >> months and months of work ahead. thanks to nick paton walsh. president trump waded into another battle last night. going after nfl players who kneel during the national anthem. sports anchor coy wire is here with that, next.
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of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a bitch off the field right now? he's fired! he's fired! >> all righty. the president there calling on the nfl to fire players who kneel during the national anthem. >> yes. president trump took time during a rally, actually to support an alabama senate candidate luther strange, to go after colin kaepernick. >> cnn's sports anchor coy wire with us now. so, of course, we have to ask what the nfl is saying after this last night. >> yes. hear from players and nfl players association and executive director has recently tweeted and we'll get to that. players like colin kaepernick and super bowl champion michael bennett aren't protesting our flag, country or military when they kneel during the anthem. using the right given as an american for free speech to protest racial and social injustice. using their platforms. a lot of folks, though, see that as anti-american. president trump playing to that
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narrative at his rally last night in alabama. get to players' reactions. vikings bishop sankey said, shaking my head in awe, because kaepernick is exercising his right as an american citizen to protest. bronc others max garcia what an emphatic response. where was this passion in response to charlottesville? and also, does anyone tell trump to stick to politics like they tell us to stick to sports? here's that tweet from executive director of the nfl association smith tweeting we will never back down. we can no longer afford to stick to sports. so president trump urging the nfl to fire players who are using their platform to try to create positive change in their communities. many asked, should athletes just stick to sports and we asked you to join in the conversation. in the next hour get to responses. there have been very good responses on both sides here. was president trump right calling out nfl players or wrong? we have to remember, where do you draw the line? j.j. watt just raised nearly $40
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and president trump is again calling the russian election interference a hoke, this time after facebook turns over russian-linked campaign ads to congress. now the ceo, mark zuckerberg, says he wants to create new transparency. laurie segall tells us what that's all about. >> more than 3,000 ads sold to a russian troll farm aimed at targeting u.s. citizens to influence the election, and an admission from facebook ceo mark zuckerberg. >> our teams have found and shut down thousands of fake accounts that could be attempting to influence elections in many other countries. >> but as facebook turns over the ads to congress, there's a new sense of urgency in silicon valley. make changes or face regulation, and the pressure is mounting. >> i don't want the government making statements about speech, at the same time, these platforms play such a powerful role in making those decisions that we want them to be somehow
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accountable. >> as zuckerberg promised to add more transparency to political ads on facebook, he said the company will double the number of people working on election integrity, but is it too little, too late? >> we can't just simply write math that we can believe neutrally chooses content. we're making choices that are incredibly consequence shl for what speech gets aired and seen by ordinary people, ordinary americans. >> while major tech ceos are beginning to grapple with their increasingly powerful platforms, there are some calls for tech companies to be regulated by utilities. many in silicon valley disagree. i recently spoke to twitter founder and medium founder ed williams about it. >> there should be an act on social media advertising, similar to the ones on tv commercials. what impact would that have? >> i don't think people would pay attention to it, really. >> when it comes to regulation, williams isn't opposed.
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he's just doubtful of the process producing good results. >> i'd prefer no regulation to bad regulation. there's no obvious thing that you would say to facebook or google or twitter, like, go fix this now. oh, we're not doing that because we don't have to. they are all trying. >> questions about content are complicated. >> the difference between a difference of opinion or political belief and a difference in prong facts is really hard to sess out. >> the same gray area applies to facebook. while the company says they'll disclose political ads, who's to say what constitutes a political ad and what defines propaganda? >> some are calling for editorial guidelines and you get into an area where most tech companies are like that's not something that really fits in our model or that we would even be good at.
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think about this, a harvard study says the number of people over 75 living alone will almost double by 2035. >> taking care of your health. jacqueline howard tells us more. >> automation can do more than just ease daily living. >> sensors that can detect multiple information such as light, humidity, temperature. some of the technologies we're working with are actually quite useful in terms of understanding behaviors, whether that's avoiding falls, avoiding disease or managing disease better. >> for example, these gate sensors along this hallway
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assess fall risk by measuring walking speed and stride. a motion sensor can detect when your stove has been left on undetected and send an alert right to your smart watch. near field imaging in this floor can assess movement or lack thereof. the data collected can signal underlying medical issues. >> it could mean there's an onset of urinary tract infection if you see those patterns increase during the course of the night. >> and this robot can deliver medications right to you. there will always be a need for care facilities, but what we will hopefully see is older adults will live the majority of their lives in the setting of their choice. this is cnn breaking news. >> and the breaking news we're starting with this morning, seismic activity being detected in north korea near the area of the country's nuclear site. >> two south korean officials say so far their analysis shows it was a natural

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