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you have to remember, these guys are in a tough situation. they're living a tale of two lives. on the one hand, they worked hard and they're successful. on the other hand they're coming from communities still struggling. they're trying to figure out a good thing to do and i think the president of the united states is deliberately failing to at least acknowledge there's something there. his justice department is taking a step back from police reform. which is making things worse, not better. >> it is a whole issue you are so passionate about. thank you both so much. we have to wrap and it move to the top of the hour. thank you. now this. we're going to continue on. we begin with the breaking news on the russia investigation now. sources are telling cnn, special counsel investigators could start interviewing current and former white house staff as soon as this week. so let's go straight to our justice correspondent, pamela brown, who has been breaking
this story. >> well, sources tell myself and my colleague gloria borger. robert mueller, the special counsel taken corks start interviewing current and former white house staff in the russia probe. this is a signal the russia probe is entering a more advanced stage after the white house has been turning documents over to robert mueller of we're hearing as soon as this week, the interviews with the staffers could begin of as we have previously reported, mueller's office has expressed interest in interviewing reince priebus, the former chief of staff. the former press secretary sean spicer, the current communications director, hope hicks as well as don mcgann of the so we expect one or two of these interviews to happen quite soon. one of the big focuses is on the dismissals of both the national
security adviser michael flynn, as well as the former fbi director james comey. the james comey aspect with the probe and they want to know more about the dismissal of michael flynn. why did it happen earlier after they warned about the conversations with the former russian ambassador, sergei kislyak? and one said mueller seems interested in the president's meeting with the oval office with russians where he mentioned that the fact that jim comey was fired would ease pressure. will so this is a development the interviews will begin soon according to our sources of the. >> let's get some analysis. >> hearing a couple of the key moments, the kislyak, lavrov meeting, the crafting of the statement and the news of the
trump tower meeting with don jr., all of these pieces are coming out. the fact they want to talk to the former and current white house staffers, what is your take on you a that? >> well, it's not surprising at you a. this is with a a responsible investigator would do. would be to move to this stage. to enter view the participants in meetings may relate to an obstruction of justice charge. i'm sure as these white house that's the know, it is a crime to make a false snamt these interviews. it is be perjury but it is a felony to lie in these circumstances. they have to be very care have with what they say. we shouldn't draw any conclusions that this means anybody committed a crime or anyone will be charged with a crime. this is just a responsible investigator moving forward to where he obviously has been
going for some time. >> jeff toobin, thank you. let's pivot to the other breaking news on health care. we have learned now the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has just announced the latest obamacare repeal effort is officially dead. the senate will no longer work on the republicans' graham/cassidy bill. they had hoped would replace obamacare. republican leaders already turning their attention to the next big item on the agenda. >> we're coming back to this after taxes. we're going to have time to explain ourer concept. we'll have a better process and we'll take this show on the road. >> we haven't given up on it. we do think it is time to turn to our twin priority, the return to the tax code. we've reached significant
agreement to go forward and i'm optimist if i can we'll achieve that. >> so with me now, first to you, just on you a of this, how did this unfold? was there resignation in the room? was it ultimately the senate majority leader who said yank it? or someone else in the room? >> it was very clear this was something the senate leader wanted to do. i'm told they were much shorter than just the three we know about. mcconnell is very protective of them. he didn't want another very public vote on such a complicated issue. what i'med is senator graham, senator cassidy made clear, it was time to pull the vote. time to move forward.
they would continue to work on their proposal. the conference resignation is the best way to describe it. unlike past efforts. there's a deadline of saturday to get this done. unlike past efforts, they recognize the numbers weren't there. the idea of forcing a vote wouldn't get anybody to flip. there weren't major arguments. there weren't people stomping their feet saying we need to go forward. they're at the course, there's a recognition that ideal logically, the idea to get 50 republicans together on a since since proposal was not upon. >> i would like your analysis. the president ee ee eed . >> just the big picture, this was something, this was the ultimate last-ditch effort.
this was really happening under the radar for many, many months. rick santorum gave birth to this idea which he pitched to senators graham and cassidy, and they were off to the races. and it was after the first failure, the one that got the vote over the summer, that president trump actually called senator graham because they had been trying to get the white house to pay attention on their proposal to no avail. just keep it going, and they did. one reason they got one last gasp of air in this idea of repealing obamacare is because everybody realizes that they are going to have to pay a price to conservatives who say, wait a minute. we sent you there over and over again on the promise to repeal obamacare. but at the same time because it was so harried and chaotic in
the way they were trying to change the health care system in this country without a real hearing, without what they call regular order. you hear people talking about regular order. you go through the committee process, the committee with the senators and the staff have expertise on this issue. you take legislation. you put it together. you have the committee vote and you bring it to the floor. there is a reason why it is done that way and that's why people like john mccain, for example, said no way. because he's not comfortable that this fundamental change doing it that fast is the right thing to do. he was definitely not alone on the republican side. >> so then phil, over to you, a question to our cnn folks, members on the house side. because of the great press is president got with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, are they going straight to tax reform?
>> they're going straight to tax reform. tomorrow they will roll out the general framework of that plan. it is really interesting to hear. given the very high approval ratings the president got for that deal he made with democrats. considering how thrilled he was by deal, and yet they still decided to give one more shot at repeal and replace. there was a bipartisan effort to stabilize the insurance markets. add money to try to stabilize their area. they would get some flexibility in terms of obamacare regulations. that was kid because repeal and replace came back. while that will almost certainly, at least democrats would like the stabilize the markets, the idea that senate republican leaders would put that on the floor. given that they want no part of fixing obamacare, it is a long shot. when you talk to aides, tax reform is the goal, the ultimate
prize. the big question is it is very clear something needs to be done for a lot of these market places to stabilize them and there doesn't seem to be a willingness, at least at the top of the republican party, to do anything about it. >> we had this debate on cnn last night. one of the takeaways was that nobody on the stage, democrat, independent, to republicans, said that obamacare is working well. everybody agrees there needs to be changes. democrats won't even talk to republicans about anything that includes repealing obamacare. and republicans won't talk to anything that is anything less than repealing obamacare. if the president is serious and can kind of strip off the idea of repeal, and actually work to fix the current system, i bet democrats would work with him. that's probably a long way off.
>> kudos, dana bash, and getting all those senators on the same page. >> thank you very much. that's health care. let's talk about puerto rico. we're watching very, very closely, this u.s. territory is on the verge of a humanitarian crisis. almost a week now. people basically at the point of desperation. most are still without water, without power, without communication. millions totally cut off from the rest of the world. and we show you the pictures. this is before on the left side of the screen. and there is after. in terms of darkness, power grid. it is stunning. let's not forget all the passengers trying desperately to get on airplanes. only ten commercial flights a day are coming into the airport there. today president trump announced he will be visiting puerto rico next tuesday. here he is talking the video conference. and he says, he being president
trump, says that federal help is on the way. >> to the people of puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands, both have been de stated, and i mean absolutely devastated, by hurricane maria. we're doing everything in our power to then hard hit people of both places. puerto rico and the virgin islands. and massive effort is underway. the recovery process will be very, very difficult. we will get through this and we will get through it together. we will be stronger. we will be bigger. we will be better. >> the president said he'll be visiting the virgin islands as well. >> so patricia, you just got back from puerto rico. thank you for coming on today. let's talk about the devastation. all the adjectives people are
using. you saw it with your own eyes. how bad is it? >> it is pretty bad. the situation is dire. it is not level like you saw from barbuda. there is a different kind of destruction. in many cases, these were cement structures. if they had zinc, aluminum, metal roofs, we saw mud inside people's houses. in some cases, their roofs had blown off and they got flooded. so they were hit in two ways by the storm. there are a lot of rivers that overflooded. and it was just one calamity after another, town after town without power, without water. this was a couple days ago so i can imagine now it is worse. >> what about the airport? cnn has been in the airport. seeing all the people in line. no a/c. all these people are stranded.
desperate for a flight out of the country. the computer systems are down. you were able to hop on a flight over sunday. what was that experience like? >> we spent about three and a half hours at the airport and three and a half hours on the tarmac getting clearance to leave. and we spoke to people who had been there since saturday night. 300 people per night waiting at the airport. you don't have power so you can't vet these passengers. this is what the faa tells us. with a computer, you have to call miami every time. so once you're on the plane, if you're lucky enough to get one of these handwritten boarding passes, you have to wait to leave. and they have to space out these flights, at least 15 minutes per flight for security purposes. because they're running low on air traffic person he. and they don't have one of the long range radar systems
working. just a lot of problems together of the will the system is kind of overwhelmed. this is an island. it is hard to get he in and out of. a lot of relief flights scheduled in. so it will take a long time for things on get back to any sort of normalcy. >> i know there was a moment when you got pretty emotional. it is always stunning to me, the generosity from people to offer what little bit of food or water, drink they may have. and you experienced something similar. >> yeah. several times. we were out in these flooded areas east of san juan. the first family we went to, they grabbed me by the hand and said let me show you what we lost. and they offered us water bottles from their supply. and we said absolutely not. then they introduced us to their neighbor who was worse off than they were. she waded through this knee-high flood across the street to give us the water west couldn't say
no. it was just, what do you say to people who have that sort of generosity in a crisis, you know? >> thank you. patricia with the "miami herald." thank you so much of the will. moments ago, president trump said the u.s. is totally prepared for a military option against north korea which would be devastating. his word. is the window for diplomacy closing? also, i'll be joined. their son was held captive for more than a year. they are now speaking out about what the north korean regime did to their son and what they want. what is this? it's the new iphone, it's for our anniversary. our anniversary? it's thirty-four days since we first met. i didn't... get you anything. oh it's, it's fine 'cuz... i got myself one too. oh! from you, for me, happy anniversary. i love it. that is very thoughtful of you. thank you.
governor. during that conversation, we affirmed our top priority. continuing to provide life safety and life sustaining resources to the that's of americans in puerto rico. the response today has been phenomenal. it has been strong today and we've gotten commitments to keeping it strong. the feedback from the governor, the mayor of san juan have all been positive and we intend to keep it that way. we will continue leading forward with our efforts. as we are all concerned about our fellow americans impacted by hurp of along with those previously impacted by hurricanes irma and harvey in florida and also in texas and other southern states. fema has had personnel stationed in puerto rico since before
hurricane irma through hurricane maria. we continue to conduct 24 hour operations. aggressively conducting search and rescue, bringing essential xhold advertise, food and water to the islands. restoring power at hospitals, ports, airports and other critical facilities. there are thousands of federal staff from fema, department of defense and other federal agencies in puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands, supporting those governors in response and recovery. while significant coverage has been made, the full recovery on the side will be long. we will be with them through the recovery. as access to ports, air feeds and roads continues to open which it is not very open yet. more resources will continue to flow see about the hard-hit areas. we continue to stand with the people of puerto rico and the
virgin islands and remain 100% committed to the full recovery efforts. the president is fully committed and has brought the cabinet together for a full response to support puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands. will. >> the objectives are clear. take care of people and stabilize the situation and do everything we can to sustain life. so as the secretary said, we've will a large force on the island since before irma. and we're continuing to bolster and grow that force. the united states has seen this in a very, very long time, if ever. you have to remember not only did irma come through and create quite a bit of damage and destruction that we were working to repair but maria was one mile away from being a category 5 storm. one of the strongest storms that puerto rico has seen since the
20s. and let's face it. the infrastructure is weak and there were no building codes. so there's a lot of devastation. and we understand that. here's the other major challenge that we face. it is an island. we don't just drive trucks and resources on to an island. with the damage, you had extensive damage to the air traffic control systems which meant sequencing life safety flights into the area, into the one airport that we can get open. san juan initially is incredibly difficult. you have to prioritize who accesses the island and what you're sending. what did you on top of the forces that we had in puerto rico was to continue to sequence those flights, first take command and control of the airport to make sure we can get the flights in. then sequential them in. life saving commodities, please, water, right now we have over 4 million meals on the island. we have six many liters of water
on the side. the bottom line is not only do you have to take control of the airport and stabilize the situation, we opened up roosevelt road to increase the flights that we can get in. we're working the open up another airport in aguadilla. that does a couple things pfrlt alleviates that commercial, being able to get commercial flights out of san juan but also to get life saving, life sustaining teams and commodities in. if you're going to puerto rico right now, it should only be for a life sustaining, life supporting mission. everybody who is trying to get in that is not supporting that is getting in the way, okay? now the next thing that has to happen. we're dramatically increasing the foot print there. we are mobilizing our partners. we're putting together a very robust statement for thousands of people that are mobilizing as we speak to come in to increase emergency communications, fuel
distribution. they'll be helping to us make sure that we can transport safely and securely the fuel, the food, the areas that we need to get to. we do understand that there are some areas that are isolated. we've been conducting air drops. not only in puerto rico but we can't forget our partners over in the virgin islands. so we're also working that event as well. we continue to stabilize the situation. the other challenge that we face is that unfortunately, because of the severity of the hit, there is diminished capacity of local governments, and state governments to respond, similar to what we saw with texas and florida. therefore, it is requiring to us push forward a lot of resources. including the uss comfort, which is on the way. you can't mobilize ships and just send them in. there has to be port space. the port has to be safe.
there are all types of things we have to bring in. so the federal government is working tirelessly to unify the efforts to support the governor with the initiatives going forward. >> what assurances do you have? >> how long do you think it will take on the ground? [ inaudible ] how long will it be down the road -- >> two-part question. first of all, congress has been working with us around the clock to get us the enduring authority to do our job. so we're not running out of
money s. money getting low? sure. october 1 we have a supplement that comes into play. my guys are constantly in contact. we may be in for a problem. let's anticipate that. the second thing happened today was the president very pro actively approved reimbursement of the response to puerto rico and the virgin islands. so that gives the reassurance of the private partners to do the job, that they will be paid. so we can get not only the federal government and to do the job that needs to be done. >> the people are trying to get life sustaining effort. >> capacity is increasing daily. from the standpoint of, we're establishing the incident support bases of the other two airports in addition to san juan as well as the port space. what we're asking them to do, to be basically going through,
they're connected through our national response coordination center, to sequence everything in. we cannot just deploy and try to shove everything in at the same time. >> for those who might be able to hear your voice, now or later today -- [ inaudible ] that you put forward for your team -- >> sure. >> [ inaudible ]. >> we have 16 ships currently operating. that's a combination of u.s. coast guard and our d.o.d. partners. ten ships en route. ten ships and barges, continuing to bring generators, emergency
power, as well as more additional food and water that's coming in. take the governor at his word. the governor has been, i've been in direct communication. with him but also the governor in reconfirming and making sure we are not missing anything. we understand there are gaps in areas, and there are people we can't community. because telecommunications are knocked out, it makes people nervous. >> the bench marks over the next 48 hours is the d.o.d. force that i just talked about. the sustainment force will be rolling into town. so they'll be trickling in in force. we're talking thousands of
soldiers. in puerto rico. >> the security system is sound. the governor has control of the state. we are supporting the governor. he has national guard troops. we have d.o.d. working with us in terms of supporting the governor and recovery. like i said, we are adding additional convoys to do distribution into the more remote areas of the island and we feel confident that will stay. [ inaudible ]. >> not to my know. we have heard nothing from the governor that he plans to declare martial law. >> the resources on the island. so for security purposes, the national guard that has been there, for a very long time and activated, providing security
forces, will it bolster everything? >> is it worse than hurricane katrina? >> one of the difficulties in the virgin islands and puerto rico is the total, because they're smaller islands, the total devastation. in the virgin islands and puerto rico, we had zero power. and it will take a long time to restore the power grid. and we don't have the adjacent areas from which to deploy like we did in katrina. but i'll tell you one thing that's working is the forward leaningness of the president in declaring the disaster very early with fema being on the ground. so i think it is a very different response. >> we do not have a dollar
figure. we are working with congress on estimates of the needs. and we do believe we will need additional, beyond the october 1 increment. >> let me tell you what we've taken action on to this point. puerto rico has power authority on the island. obviously, .to the diminished capacity. the power workers, the first responders, are also disaster survivors. they may have lost everything. so we recognize that. so what we've done is pro actively asked, they asked the army corps of engineers to take over the initial part of rebuilding the entire grid. the entire rebuild of the grid, that's a long process. if we do it, we have to do it right. we don't want to wind up having the same discussion 10 twir, 20s
from now. >> so the army corps of engineers -- >> they are on the side, yes. >> we're focused on the response and recovery and that's what we're doing with dhs and 15 san. what we have learned is not losing any time. on both harvey and this hurricane maria, the president declared the disaster before it hit landfall. that's absolutely critical to allowing us to come in in support of the governor before the disaster really hits. to me, that has been a game changer. >> i think the last 35 days or so have been a gut check that we do not have a true culture of preparedness in this country and we have a lot of work to do. whether it is in education,
being ready. it is not just saying, hey, have three days of supplies ready to go. it is having the finances and the savings to overcome simple emergencies. we have to hit the reset button and create a true culture of preparedness starting at a young age and filtering all the way up. >> one last question. [ inaudible ]. >> puerto rico was in debt before the disaster hit. i think as the administrator said earlier, the president has provided for one hundred% reimbursement of all the major response efforts by the federal government for the first 180 days. that will get us to a point we can reassess. thank you all. >> all right.
fema administrator talking about the dire need and how the u.s. is really coming to the aid of puerto rico. a dire situation there. talking about the airport, the long lines. only a few flights every day. and you heard the presidentier today speaking, saying he will be going to puerto rico and also he hopes to go to the u.s. virgin islands next tuesday. the president today slammed the nfl and those taking a knee is more than big distraction from big agenda issues. >> i wasn't preoccupied with the nfl. i was ashamed at what was taking place. i don't think you can disrespect our country, our flag, our anthem. and swimming pools, public cafes, bars and bistros
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thirsty? . i wasn't preoccupied with the nfl. i was ashamed of what was taking place. i don't think you can disrespect our country, our flag, the national anthem. to me the nfl situation is a very important situation. i've heard it before. was i preoccupied? not at all. not at all. i have plenty of time on my hands. all do i is work. to be honest, that is an important function of working. it is called respect for the country. i think it is very important for the nfl to not allow people to kneel. to respect our country and to respect our flag. >> that was the president just moments ago. once again. going after the nfl and
specifically the players who have been taking a knee. with me now, one of the most prominent sports agents in the biz who has negotiated more than $2 billion in contracts of the and you played in the nfl. so thank you. you heard the president saying, no, i'll not preoccupied. yes, i still find it disgraceful. do you think the president is at all winning this can you tell you are war? >> i don't think he is. but i think the key is to not focus on the protests but focus on the cause. i think it is clear that he called out the players and saying they were sobs. he could have called anybody that. when the players are taking a knee, or doing their protest, i mean, that's not just standing up and protesting just to protest.
that's sending a message that's unacceptable. it is not just offensive to an nfl player but to americans in general. >> that's not the right language anyone in that office should be using. that said, you think about the owners, you think about the money they put in. then donald trump's pocket during campaign. do you think the president thinks the owners will listen to him? >> they shouldn't. what's more important is they support the players on their team. the players have put them that a position to be owners. the players are the ones who make the national football league. not the owners. anybody with enough money can own a team. it is the players who deserve more respect. for this president to come out and generally call players, who protest, sobs is completely unacceptable. especially when he didn't use the characterization for white
supremacists or neo-nazis. that's sickening to me. that's scary. not a single player has ever uttered anything negative about the national anthem, the flag or the united states of america. what they're upset about, chris alluded to, are social injustice that's take place every day. and inequalities. this is what america is about. >> i think everyone is on the same page about language. what if the president hadn't used that kind of language? would you be work the president speaking out on there in. >> well, i, if somebody was kneeling. i think what's great is you can still be seen. i've been on the show before and i talked about losing my wife to
lung cancer. in 2011. because i was an nfl player, i could be heard. and there are so many survivors, so many people who felt like they were not being heard. the nfl guys, they're not standing up just because of the nfl. they're saying there's something wrong. just like in football, when we do something wrong, that was wrong. let's fix it. >> do you think the president in speaking out, it almost back fired on him because it has really unified the spot and how do you think it has changed the nfl moving forward? >> it has absolutely back fired on him. he made it so much more controversial, or negative than it needed to be. he also said, guys should be fired. how insensitive is that? he has no idea what goes into an
nfl team. he has bigger things to do than worry about the national football league and the nfl players. he should focus more on the injustices and the problem that's this country has, than criticizing nfl players and calling them out. that's a disgrace. that's not what you find from the leader of this fine country. >> thank you so much. a lot of live moving parts today, gentlemen. thank you. and a quick clarification. yesterday it was reported on the show that all players started coming out in 200 neighbor as a deal between the league and the military. they did start in 2009. coming up next, the parents of otto warmbier. their son was head captive for more than a year and died after
president trump speaking out from the rose garden today. with me, the mother and father of otto warmbier. the college student on scholarship at the university of virginia who passed away three months ago. he was just 22 years old and lost his life mere days after returning home from 17 months of detention in north korea. warmbier had gone there as part of a travel group. but at the pyongyang airport, he was arrested and ultimately sentenced to 15 years of hard labor for allegedly stealing some sort of political poster. when north korea released otto
warmbier, he was severely brain danged. what doctors described as unwakefulness. so his parents are we me today. so first my heart get , condolences on someone you never should have lost. i am so, so sorry. i have a lot. beginning with, you haven't spoken publicly really until today. and just, either of you, why are you breaking your silence? what do you want people to know? >> well, for starters, cindy and i knew the day we met otto at the airport, that we were going to share our experience. the horribleness of what north korea did to him was so devastating to our family that we experienced a shock that i
had never experience in the my life. as a family, we needed to come together and process this as best we could. and over the last three months, we've started the grief process. my kids, austin and gretta, are amazing. now we see north korea with the tensions claiming to be a victim. and they're claiming that the world is picking on them. and we're here to tell you, as witnesses to the terror of their regime, north korea is not a victim. so we felt it was time to tell the truth about the condition that otto was in. >> let's start there. mrs. warmbier, if you don't mind, tell me about the day. >> sure. well, in the morning, of the day that he was going to be medivacked home, senator portman
called to us tell us, we weren't sure that north korea would release him even though we knew he was in a comba and he had been in a coma pretty much shortly after his trial. and so he was out of their air space. so senator portman said he'll be home tonight. and i said to him, can you tell me how otto, how his brain is functioning? i was, we're really optimistic people. we were still hopeful that we would get otto back and he could be like with good american health care, he could improve and be okay. and senator portman said, it was severe brain damage.
so still not knowing what that entailed, we went to the airport and waited. and we were kept away from ought press. we weren't sure what was going on of the but we knew that the press wasn't going to be involved. because this was start, but we were at a little private hangar and tarmac, and the plane landed. >> using the term coma, for otto's condition is completely unfair. otto had severe brain damage. otto was systematically tortured and intentionally injured by kim
and his regime. and this was no accident. they intentionally injured otto. i'll tell you what it was like when we met otto at the airport. we were in a waiting room. and the medical team goes out and agrees they will meet otto first. they come down five or seven minutes later and it's time for the family to go up and meet him. so we walked out to the plane. the engines are whining. it's my self, cindy, austin, and greta. we climb the stairs to meet with otto. halfway up the stairs we hear this loud gutteral howling
inhumane sound. we don't know what it is. we continue up the steps. we look across in the airplane and otto is laying on the stretcher. he's strapped to the stretcher. and he's moving around and jerking violently making these howling, inhumane sound. greta and cindy go back, leave, go down the steps. it's too much for them to handle. austin and i walk over to otto. and he's in this condition. he has a shaved head. his eyes are darting around. they are as big as saucers. he's blind. he's deaf. he's got a feeding tube. and we kneel down and we hug him and try to connect with him. and he's a complete vegetable. and his bottom teeth looked like they had taken a pair of pliers
and rearranged them. and, so, there was no comforting otto. this was horrible. and this noise kept -- he kept doing this. >> we weren't prepared for this at all. >> how could you be? >> no one had any idea going in there what we were going to see. his hands and legs were -- >> totally deformed. >> and he was -- >> you want to say, this was not our son. this is our son. we are proud of him. but this was our son. and this was the condition that kim and his regime intentionally put him in. >> how -- i'm listening to you and i'm trying to -- how did he die? how did he die specifically? >> who knows. >> has it been explained to you? >> sure, two days after otto came home, his fever spiked to
over 104 degrees. otto had this huge scar on his right foot. he was on his death bed when he came home to us. this was not a pleasant sight. >> that's why they released him. they didn't want him to die on their soil. >> how has it been explained to you what north korea did? when you say torture, what did they do? do you know? >> no. north korea doesn't even acknowledge -- they considered it a humanitarian gesture sending otto home. his teeth looked like they had been rearranged with a pair of pliers. you can only look at the evidence. a perfectly healthy young american visiting there, an innocent young american, comes home with severe brain damage, but it's not like it happened and they shipped him home immediately.
it's a year later. these people are terrorists. kim and his regime intentionally injured otto. >> help me understand, because looking at the doctors, they said suffered extensive brain tissue, was in a state of unresponsive wake fullness, didn't know what caused his brain damage. they say he didn't show any obvious indications of trauma or evidence of either acute or healing fractures. why opt out of an autopsy? >> that's a really good question. >> absolutely. otto and our family have been through enough, enough. otto was abandoned by his family, his country, and the rest of the world. he was kidnapped in north korea. he was isolated from his family and the world. he was paraded in front of their -- he was humiliated. otto and his family were humiliated by north koreans.
and ultimately when kim made the decision otto was tortured and murdered. enough. otto is at peace. and it's about time. >> i wasn't going to let him out of my sight. and i didn't. and she did a visual, our corner did a visual, and she's the one who brought up the huge scar on his feet. >> what happened to his feet? >> we don't know. covered the entire top of his foot. how do you get a scar that covered the entire top of your foot? she said it had to be open wound for months and months and months. >> what has the u.s. government said to you? >> we don't engage with them at this level. we don't need to ask them what condition or what happened to otto. >> in general, i mean obviously you want this, what information
has the government given to you? >> none. none. none. but we don't need it. and we are not here to bad mouth the obama administration, state department, any of them. this is solely the responsibility of the kim regime. kim and his regime. >> nobody should go there, ever. nobody needs to go there. it was legal. he went with a tour group. nobody needs to go there. you know, the wall street journal just went there. they show you what you want to see. so why do we play into this? why do we play into this at all anymore? i don't want to see anyone else hurt or taken. >> that's also why you are speaking out? >> oh, yeah. >> how are you feeling? >> i'm feeling like i'm getting stronger all the time. every day i think of otto. i mean, almost every minute of
every day i think of otto. he's always going to be with me. it's a wonderful memory. and i don't want to remember otto in north korea or in the hospital. i have enough fantastic memories of the 21 years we had together. >> can we end on that? in the last two minutes. >> absolutely. >> tell me about otto. what do you think about in your bones about your son? >> he was a good boy. he was all boy. so, again, you have to remind yourself he wasn't perfect. and that he would call you up and talk, and then you realize he's scamming you because he wants to borrow money. so he was all boy. but he was loving and kind. and we had fun together. and we were older when we had kids. we wanted to be a part of our
kids' lives. so we have no regrets. i can honestly say that. and ile point out when otto was kidnapped our family got together and we had to make a decision how we were going to move forward with this new situation. and we also had to do it again, by the way, when otto was sent home and ultimately passed away and we buried him. we had to make a decision how we are going to move forward. and we said, otto's death and circumstances are not an excuse to fail. and then at the reverse were true, and cindy and i were killed, we would need otto to carry on, to be a positive person, and to do the absolute best that he could in life. and that's what we are charged with as well. and we are proud. we are proud people. >> proud people, proud parents. i have 20 sebconds left to hear from mother's voice about her
son. >> sure. i have many stories but i'll share this. fred and i think for our 25th wedding anniversary went to glacial national park and otto was in charge of the other two kids and he wanted to give them a special day. so he took them to a gorge, hiking on a day trip. and surprised them, and he told us he was going to do it. but that's what he was. he was a giver. he never complained about taking care of the kids. and he just gave them a great day that they'll remember. >> mr. and mrs. warmbier, thank you so much. >> hyou're welcome. >> i'm so sorry. your message is heard. the "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. >> thank you. put center stage today.