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he's a champion pit master and for the last six years he and has barbecue buddies have responded to disasters the best way they know how. >> after a disaster there's two bake needs that a person has. the first one is shelter and the other one is nourishment. and so barbecue, besides being a nourishing meal, is comfort food. being able to give somebody a hot barbecue meal in one of their worst times, we not only are giving something nutritious, but we are giving them maybe a little bit of a normalcy for just a short period of time. >> stan and his team responded to harvey and irma and they soon hope to send meals to puerto rico. to say operation barbecue relief in action go to cnn heroes.com. that's it for us tonight of the thanks for watching. good evening. i'm anderson cooper coming to you live from san juan, puerto rico. on this island in many towns across this island tonight
families in puerto rico are waiting, waiting for fuel, waiting for electricity to be restored, waiting to get some fresh drinking water and waiting to see what's going to happen to them and their towns and their island in the days and the months and even the years ahead. today president trump said that relief efforts go to go well, really well in his words, all things considering. reallywell, he said. tonight we'll talk to the mayor of san juan. we'l talk to th governor of puerto rico and we'll talk to regular people, citizens, american citizens all across this island to find out if they think things are going really well with the relief efforts. we have extensive reporting from approximate r pr tonight. but first we want to turn to the bombshell that happened out of washington today, the resignation of the health and human services secretary tom price. ryan nobles joins me with all the latest. explain how this all went down today. >> reporter: well, anderson, it appears that the president just could no longer handle this
controversy surrounding his secretary of health and human services and the response that the now former secretary had to the controversy just seemed to make things worse. in fact, this afternoon the president made it clear that he did not like the way that this scandal surrounding the use of private airplanes reflected back on his administration and that a change was necessary. listen to what the president said earlier today. >> have you lost confidence in secretary price? >> it's not a question of confidence. i was disappointed pause i didn't like it. cosmetically or otherwise. so i don't like to see somebody that perhaps there's the perception that it wasn't right. >> reporter: so essentially what the president decided to do later today was accept the resignation of secretary price. it is effective add midnight tonight. there will be an acting secretary that will take his place until a permanent person can be put into that position. but anderson, this controversy just seemed to grow and grow by
the day and the charter on cable news was something that the president was clearly keeping an eye on and he decided that today a change was necessary. >> well, you know, certainly tom price and his staff did tom price no favors. first they under played the extent of his use of private planes. and then yesterday with much fan fair he announced that he was going to reimburse the government, meaning reimburse taxpayers, but only for the cost of his seat on those planes as if those planes would have been going off on those trips even without him. what do we know now? is tom price still going to at least reimburse the $50 some,000 he had said he would do yesterday? >> reporter: we have no reason to think that he's not going to, anderson, but to your point, it's pretty clear that his response to this controversy was not something that pleased the president at all. he thought it was lukewarm at best and it made the situation even more worse. as you mentioned, the idea of only paying back 50,000 for
expenses that got up more than a million dollars when you take into account the use of military planes was just a very small drop in the bucket. so the president just deciding that this -- the optics of this situation as he said himself, were just too much for him to handle. and we now will wait and see if tom price makes good on that commitment to pay that $50,000 back to tax players. >> i mean, it is amazing when you look at how many people from the president's inner circle have resigned or been fired just in the short time he's been in the white house. there are a number of other cabinet secretaries who take private planes. some of them are billionaires and can pay for it themselves, but others are under scrutiny as well tonight. >> reporter: dwrau, that's right, anderson. so what's interesting about tom price is he's the first cabinet secretary that's been forced to step down from his post. everyone up until this point have been administration officials that work in the white house and closely with president trump. price being the first that actually represents an entire department. but as you mentioned, there are at least three or cabinet
secretaries who have admitted to the use of private and chartered flights, among them ryan zinc key who is the secretary of the interior. he today calling the accusations of the use of these private airplanes bs saying they were necessary for his travel and that he only uses coach every other situation. also scott pruitt who is the eps official. he also has used private planes on a number of different occasions including taking a military jet before a flight internationally to catch that flight. and also, steve mnuchin, the treasury secretary, perhaps his most famous interaction with the private flight was when he went on a tour of fort knox in kentucky and also took in the eclipse at that time. also, mnuchin was also considering using a private flight for his honeymoon. he decided to backtrack on that and never said that it was a serious consideration. just something that they looked into. so certainly even though tom price is no longer in his position, this controversy surrounding the use of private
planes by the trump administration is not going away anytime soon. >> all right. ryan nobles, appreciate that reporting. we'll have more on the resignation of price throughout the broadcast tonight. but i want to turn to what is happening here. we have reporters all over the island of puerto rico as we have all week. the president spoke about the relief efforts in puerto rico and how he sees it. here is some of what he said. >> i can tell you this, we have done an incredible job considering there's absolutely nothing to work with. and a very big question is what are we going to do with the power plan? because the power plant has been wiped out. it's not like let's go back and fix it. that's what i do. i'm a good construction guy. you don't go back and fix it. there is nothing. the power grid is gone. so we have a lot of big decisions, and you're talking about the dollars that you're talking about are really tremendous. and i'll be talking with the democrats and we'll be talking to congress about what we're going to do a little bit longer
term. in the meantime, we've saved a lot of lives. we've done a really good job and now we're bringing the people for distribution. >> well, yesterday you may remember elaine duke the acting homeland security secretary raised high brows with her optimist being assessment of what's been going on. >> i am very satisfied. i know it's a hard storm to recover from, but the amount of progress that's been made, and i really would appreciate any support that we get. i know it is really a good news story in terms of our ability to reach people and the limited number of deaths that have taken place in such a devastating hurricane. >> well, the mayor of san juan quickly pointed out today that it is want a good news story what is happening here on the ground. she also had this to say. >> i am begging, begging anyone
that can hear us to save us from dying. i am mad as hell because my peoples' lives are at stake. and we are but one nation. >> and i'm joined now by doctor san jay gup at that who has been here now reporting extensively on the medical situation. what have you seen today just in terms of efforts about, you know, medical supplies, relief getting out? i mean, san juan is one thing and, you know, compared to the rest of the island, there's a lot of places in san juan that are doing okay and it's easy to get reheef here, but elsewhere. >> the most coordination you're going to see is right here. you get beyond here and 15, 20 minutes beyond here you really see nothing of the and i asked the first few days that i was here, have you seen anything?
nobody said that they had seen any coordinated relief efforts, no fema, no trucks come in. what i saw today were private organizations, disaster relief and project hope in particular going out and doing things. we've been talking to these doctors now and saying, hey, look, what do you need? they have no communication, what do you need? one doctor was telling us what she needed specifically and also came up with a plan sort of how to address those needs. >> we're tied up here because we don't have antibiotics to give the parentients and we have no place to get them. >> i kept thinking to myself how difficult could this be. if these life saving supplies are on the island of puerto rico, why aren't they getting to the people who need it? what's standing in the way of that happening and can i make it happen myself. >> the first place i'm going to try is the disaster management assistance team. hhs. this is the federal government. let's see what they have to offer. i was with the doctors yesterday who were volunteering and this is what they were asking for.
>> okay. so we've been waiting about 45 minutes now outside the hhs tent. we know that they have medications. what we heard is that they've got to run it up two lines of command and get back to us. but again, it's been 45 minutes. we're going to go try somewhere else. we're trying to get some of these medications because we went to some of the shelters. >> you can get some here. >> is there medication -- >> we have the medication just arrived. >> okay. thank you. because the hospitals have been slow to start back up, these are all volunteer doctors over here who have basically come trying to gather supplies and take it out to the people who need it. they're trying their best. it's a slow process. let me see -- okay. yeah. if we can get a few doses we'll
take it over there. is that through? >> we have only some of the antibiotics. >> yep. >> you need it also. >> yeah. that would be great all right. perfect. okay, doctor. thank you. >> the other one i will get you. >> appreciate it. thank you. >> it's all about getting the supplies and then getting them to the people who need it. these come from an organization called direct relief. you can see they're set up right underneath this parking structure are with all these medications. we got them. now we're going to take them. what doctor morales asked was that we get these medications and see if we could bring it to this clinic, this hospital. this is one of those places that's up and running. but without these medication they haven't been able to really take care of patients. doctor rodriguez, i was told to bring you this. >> thank you. >> these are -- >> thank you. >> let me tell you what we have. this is all sorts of antibiotics
primarily. dr. morales said that you were needing a lot of this. >> yes. >> you can go through it and there's also pediatrics. well, i hope this helps. >> yes. a lot. thank you. >> you're doing great work here. keep doing what you're doing. like a little baby. >> it's such a patchwork. again, there's no coordination. people are just literally putting these medications under a parking garage. they're in duffle bags. there's doctors here -- >> it takes you making the connection, that's odd. >> it can be done. >> right. >> the distribution can happen. we can drive a vehicle. we can pick up these meds. it can be done. all these things are here. it's like in medicine if you develop this great treatment, everyone is applauding it's great but then the people who need it don't get it, what value does it have. the things are here but only half the job i think has been done. distribution is what i have seen
is the biggest problem. >> i want to bring in retired lieutenant general who will led the efforts on the ground during hurricane katrina. when you see san jay basically going and picking up medication bringing it to a place it's needed, what are the log jams here? >> well, we need more capacity. we need to have an lot at each hospital, a liaison team that can call in for emergency medicine. we know how to do this. we've got medical companies in the military. they need to get here. >> there needs to be more troops on the ground you're saying. >> yes, sir. and i'm sure he's work on the ground that. you don't have enough capacity. right now when you come into the airport you see these c 17s on the ground with off loaded pallets, a quarter mile of them with one forklift working. he's going to assess that. he's seeing the same thing. and we need a big unit it he airport to get that through put so you can get that arm order
movement of the supplies. but right now it's a function of capacityment the other thing we've got to create communications. and this is a resilience piece. and i'm not going to -- this thing costs 5 hundreds a year. and it's a satellite phone. if you don't use it, you don't pay. and you can turn it into a box that you create a hot spot so a whole town, government can be able to communicate. if you can't communicate, you're in trouble. a couple other recommendations, if i will. >> yes, sir. >> walgreens, billing brand here. they dominated, came in and took over the pharmaceutical. the stores are not open. all they need is a generator. and we need a generator law in puerto rico to look forward in resilience and make all those drugstores have generators. >> one of the problems i found today at a gas station is that there were a lot of people waiting in line who work at some of those big stores who can't get to their job because they need gas in their car, so they're waiting for ten hours in line.
they finally get gas and luckily their bosses are sympathetic and say, look, you've got to get gas but it's this cycle, if you don't have gas, if you don't -- >> florida passed a generator law for gas stations. every gas station in puerto rico needs to have it because when a storm come it cuts the lights out. these are the type things and at&t, need to get the cell towers up. we did it in new orleans. you know how we did it? troops from the 82nd airborne stood them up and put a small generator on it and the police were able to talk. if you can't coordinate you can't communicate. >> the doctors, are they frustrated? >> yeah, they're incredibly frustrated and part of the issue is we keep hearing numbers that 40 of the hospitals out of sefbt are up and running. >> when you look at the stats on paper it looks okay. >> it hooks like maybe it's improving and we went to some of these problems. number one is they continent have comms, can't communicate with anybody. number two is they don't have medications. so patients come in, maybe they
have power now but they can't actually treat people. and finally, you know, they are told they have fuel for six hours, for example. you can't -- what do you do with that? how do you plan? can you admit patients? are you going to tell somebody you can come in but six hours from now we may not have power to be able to take dare of you. many of the doctors are volunteering their time sitting in these gas lines that we're describing and then trying to do this work. >> general, i talked to brock long the administrator of fema. yesterday he was saying, look srk the fema supplies are getting off loaded and getting moved out, but the guy from the port yesterday was -- we're telling our correspondents there's all these goods, some perishable, water, food that could go to stores and that people could buy but it's not getting distributed because there's not truck drivers. isn't that something if there were more military personnel with trucks they could -- >> you could bring military personnel in.
i saw three truckloads of troops coming in from the airport. there's some elements of transportation unit that they brought some drivers in. they're going to bring more in, but we've got to get industry working. we've got to get people back to work. some of these require special skills and we've got to get the distribution warehouses open. going in there and doing that could cause further disruption once they get up. but there has to be a demand on the system from the governor to get people to work, because until people start getting back into the drugstores, back into the distribution houses, the cycle won't work. good news is i did see about six trucks showed up with money at the airport that came in with cash. >> that's a problem with banks, banks are running out of money. >> that's an indication that the dpoft is starting to think ahead because payday is tomorrow. 24% of the population are on social security. >> do you think it's still going to be months before electricity is restored? >> that being said, with the grid down, the multiple grids,
school system, hospital. we're strongly suggest the governor start an evacuation of the vulnerable population, particularly those people who want to stay with family and friends, give them a free ride out. everybody in here is eligible for fema. we've got to get them so they can sign up. we need to have a fema registration team at the airport so you sign up before i lee so when you get to your destination you've got cash to you to help you out and sustain you when you get to the states. >> we're going to take a short break. when we come back, the mayor of san juan comes here who responded quite strongly to what the acting secretary of homeland security said that this was a good news story. we'll talk to her ahead. directv has been rated #1 in customer satisfaction over cable for 17 years running. but some people still like cable. just like some people like banging their head on a low ceiling. drinking spoiled milk.
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relief efforts are under way. there's disagreement certainly between a lot of folks in washington and a lot of people here on the ground about how effective they have been, about whether the mill stare should have brought in a three star general should have been brought in sooner, should have gotten on the ground sooner. that's to be discussed. but we want to go out -- and we've had correspondents here obviously for the last week. today i went to a place called louie sa it's about a 25 minute drive outside of san juan. not very far at all. no electricity. no clean drinking water in their homes. but gas stations were open and they weren't actually rationing gas anymore. i wanted to see what the whole process was like. take a look. gas stations are open, but the lines are long and agonizeingly slow. it's 91 degrees and glory beth munoz is trying her best to stay school. >> how long have you been waiting here?
>> translator: since 5:00 a.m. >> and just sitting here in the car? she can't sit in her car any longer. she's been waiting for nearly ten hours. >> translator: i've been here since 4:30 a.m., she says, we're just waiting for the generator to turn on. they turned it off because it got overheated. when the generator starts again, so does the pumping. like most places in puerto rico, here cash is king. credit cards can't be processed, so dollars rule the day. >> a lot of people can't even bring their cars here. they're just waiting in line in person with as many gas cans as they can, but this line, there are dozens of people and it stretches all the way down here. and a lot of people here have been waiting for hours as well. what's it like? i mean, just day to day? >> well, i haven't baen able to come back. even my boss said don't come back unless you have gas just for our risk. but during the day we have from 6:00 a.m. all the way to
7:00 p.m. to be out in the streets looking for whatever you can -- >> that's how you spend your day is looking for stuff, water. >> yes, yes. >> gas, food -- >> right now today it's just gas. >> slowly the cars inch forward. she's close with cash in hand. the deputy mayor says the needs are overwhelm ask it all starts with the need for gas. >> this is the chain, right. this is one piece. another piece. no fuel, no work, no money. >> it's all connected. >> yeah. >> people are patient, but they're tired and fed up. >> i don't understand what's -- why things are so drastic and so out of control. it's just gas. we have gasoline, so why isn't there in the stations? >> do you see see relief supplies coming? do you see the federal government coming? >> no. no. >> she finally makes it to the front. fuel is no longer being rationed, so she can fill her
tank and a small gas can as well. she drives off happy. tomorrow she'll look for water and other basic necessities. the line inches forward. it's another car's turn at the pump. that's the scene just about a 25-minute drive from here in san juan. i've been watching. gas, it's such an obvious thing we all take it for granted in the states, but as the deputy mayor in that town said to ming, if you don't have car, you can't get to your car -- >> it breaks down the whole supply chain here. and everywhere i've gone on the island these gas lines just go on forever and ever and ever. and then the other disturbing thing is the people that are standing in line have no information. there's no telephone. no internet. they don't have televisions working right now. so they don't know a tanker going to come and deliver gas or what. and i keep asking everybody i meet, has anybody come from the federal government, anybody?
and today finally i encountered a team of fema workers in one small town. >> let's take a look. >> reporter: welcome to florida. florida puerto rico. like so many other communities on this american island, this town suffers from fuel shortages and the collapse of many other utilities. >> there's no water in the house. no telephone, no internet, nothing. >> reporter: have you seen any -- >> people from government? no. >> reporter: officials? no. no one. no one pass from any neighborhood. >> one neighborhood in florida is struggling with an additional problem. are these fish in the road? >> yes. >> reporter: you've got fish in the street. >> yes. really big one. >> reporter: a flood. this town is up in the hills. nowhere near the coast and yet somehow the storm backed up a
nearby creek creating this flood that has inundated dozens of families' homes. among those now homeless edith necessity grown. >> we lose everything. first floor, second floor, everything is gone. everything is gone. >> reporter: she's now living with her son and family in a local government shelter. the municipality provided this pump to suck out thousands of gallons of flood water and it's distributing fuel to volunteers like george, who is using his own equipment to help clear debris. much of the cleanup here is also being done by ordinary citizens. during our visit the mayor of florida appeared accompanied by officials from fema, the federal disaster relief agency. the mayor tells a fema representative he's worried the flood could spread disease. residents made homeless by the storm have their own questions for fema. >> what are your sources for
like food wise and gas wise and water? >> that need that the mayor reported to us we're reporting back to san ban and somebody -- >> and how long will that take? >> some of the -- >> we are the first to come here, apparently, so -- >> because for us to move back in here, because it's called plaque water. >> yeah, yeah. >> there is no type of moving back in there. >> yeah. right. >> fema's first visit to florida comes nine days after the storm. >> we've said this is the first many visits. fema support going to forget about this community. fema support going to forget about the needs that they have and we are going to work with our people pack at the field office in san juan about what we're going to do. >> the people here could sure use some more help. >> so my question here, anderson, i've never covered a hurricane in the state of florida, but i just wonder after one of these monster storms has
come through, would it take nine days for fema to reach a town in the state of florida like it took nine days to reach the town of florida here in puerto rico. >> when fema says, look, it's harder to reposition supplies on an island, there's concern about the equipment getting destroyed and it's not florida where you can just drive trucks. the florida town you were in in puerto rico, that's only about an hour from san juan. >> yeah. >> it's not like you took a helicopter to get there because the roads are impassable. >> you take a highway and take an exit off it. and what is remarkable is all the roads i have traveled on is they have been cleared. somebody has done a good job of opening them up. that fema team i asked did you bring anything to this community? they said they did sploo i a satellite phone to the mayor because these mayors can't even call to, you know, the headquarters here at the government in san juan when there's an emergency. >> so that's an assessment team
from fema. they look at what the needs are. they report back to the organization here and then i guess the idea is they then send out supplies at some date to be determined. >> down the road. but what's really striking is how much of the recovery effort, the cleanup effort is clearly just puerto ricans themselves helping each other out and just cleaning up on their own with some assistance from the municipalities that are obviously victims also of the storm. >> yeah. i was in a town, one street there was like a central house where people were all cooking together and then feeding people on the block. i appreciate your reporting. we're going to take a short break. we're going to have more from puerto rico. we're going to talk to the mayor of san juan. got a lot to talk to her about coming up next. it's all pop-culture trivia, but it gets pretty intense. -ahh. -the new guy. -whoa, he looks -- -he looks exactly like me. -no. -separated at birth much? we should switch name tags, and no one would know who was who. jamie, you seriously think you look like him? uh, i'm pretty good with comparisons.
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well, as we showed you at the top of the broadcast earlier today president trump said things are going very well here. the mayor of san juan had a different take earlier today. listen. >> i am begging, begging anyone that can hear us to save us from dying. i am mad as hell because my peoples' lives are at stake. >> mayor car men cruz joins me now. thanks so much for being with us. you said you're mad as hell earlier today. tonight you're wearing a t-shirt that says help us, we are dying. that's really happening. that's not a metaphor.
>> no, it's not a metaphor. if you go also inside the island, it's very important that people know, people are drinking out of creeks. here and in san juan you have people that are in buildings and they're sort of becoming caged in their own buildings. old people, retired people that just don't have any electricity. we've taken 37 people out in the last two days from retirement homes. some of them have been left to die there. they have no dialysis or nothing of the sort. so it is dying. >> when you heard the acting secretary of homeland security say that it's a good news story. >> it's ludicrous. maybe from where she was sitting, you know, going back to her air-conditioned office. it's a good story. it's want a good story. when people are dying, when people are starving, when people are thirsty, when people don't have -- can't go back to work. you've got to put people back to
work, have communications up and running, get to have our power reconstructed. and we really have to rethink the society that we build from now. i don't know who in their right mind would say that this is a good story to tell. >> when the administration yesterday was saying at a white house briefing that this was done textbook, that this is exactly kind of how they wanted it. they didn't need a three-star general here eight days ago because that's not the way things work, would you have liked to have seen a bigger military presence earlier? >> i would have liked to have a bigger logistics like military presence. when you look at the comparisons and some of the news casts have done it between what happened in high tee and what is happening here, it's so good. we were all so proud of when this happened in high tee or when the ebow la crisis happened, but then here everything seems to be bottled up. there seems to be just something that's not allowing people to do what they are supposed to do.
so today when i rant and raved, all of a sudden a whole bunch of fema stuff appeared at the coliseum. >> after you publicly complained. >> yeah. they said well, it was coming. yeah, sure. but i'm glad. i'm glad. yesterday i got a call from the chief of staff, president's chief of staff, all of a sudden i get a call from the white house and i was very happy. john raichb, the regional director, we've been communicating. so i am -- i'm hopeful that things will change, but this is me. i'm in the capital city. but we are literally dying here, mr. cooper. people cannot fathom what it is to have children drinking from creeks. people at nursing homes that don't have any oxygen. just today we met with doctor gupta here and he said, look, i'm going to the northeastern side of the island and they asked for in medication. so we brought it to him today and gave it to him to take.
and then -- >> which is kind of crazy. i mean, that it's jay. he's a doctor and a great person and he's great that he can do it but you would think after these many days that message would have -- >> not only that, it's very simple. one, you get your communications up and running. two, you get your hospitals up and running. three, for those that are really ill, when the power grid is going in and out, we had our hospital. we thought it was going to start working. then the power went out, so you have to do all the tests and everything again. so you don't have an intensive care unit. so one of the things that we need to do is we need to put these people in places where they can be taken care of, because really -- i'm glad you said it that way, because people think, oh, they're exaggerating. on the one happened we see 3,000 containers that are there with medicine, supplies, everything that we need, but on the other hand the wheels are not turning
fast enough -- >> now, fema says, look, our supplies got out of the port quicklyment we made sure they get out of the port and distributed. those box cars, the thousands that were in the port yesterday that we were interviewing people about, the port people say those are commodities that should be in stores that would help people. its food, water, medicine. at least people could be able to buy it if it made it into stores and they were open. >> with all due respect, there's a disconnect between what the plan says and what is really happening. just today -- >> so you don't see that fema pipeline moving. >> i got it yesterday. three grates of water, four crates of food and two crates -- for crates of baby supplies. and you know what i did? i gave it to another town called coma dearo, because they have gone to their fema distribution center and when he dot there they said sorry, we've got nothing for you. make a call on monday and we'll see what we can do. >> because that's what fema says is they set up distribution centers around the country that then municipalities come, get the supplies they need and
distribute. it's not working. >> you know what they've also set up. if you register for fema in the internet, you're okay. well, we don't have any internet. we barely have phones. we don't have power anywhere. so you have to -- isn't that the marines moto, you improvise, you adapt, you overcome? that's exactly what we have to do. this is not a standard operating procedure. everything has just gone away. so you have to improvise and make -- if you cannot go on the internet, you just fill out a form and somebody with an internet connection then does the data entry for you. >> how are you holding up? i mean, you've been working nonstop. >> my house goot flooded. it got cleaned out. everything inside is lost. i'm staying at the coliseum where we have the largest refugee station in all of puerto rico, 685 people. we have -- >> that's where you're staying. >> that's where i'm staying with
my family. we're sleeping on cots. we're eating the same food that refugees are eating. and we're doing the best we can. and i'm getting whatever -- i'm exhausted. i can tell you that. but you know what? i have to get the voice of our people out there. i lived in the united states for 12 years. i went to school there. i had my child there in piltsburg, pennsylvania. i know what the u.s. heart is all about,up. you are intelligent, daring people. so i just don't understand why things have become so complicated and the logistics are so unsur mountable. >> i've got to say it hurts me so much to hear so many people on this island say to me and say to reporters we're americans. we're americans. that they have to explain that as if we shouldn't know that. i mean, i just find that so -- i think it says something about
the way people feel here about the way things have been handled. >> there's a lot of linked history. there is a lot of cross moving. there's people in orlando, philadelphia, los angeles, houston. every time there is a problem, we are a kind of people that share our sorrows but also share our triumphs and we just don't understand -- and sorry, maybe i'm too tired. i get a little emotional, but we're dying here. we truly are dying here. and i keep saying it sos. if anyone can hear us. you know, if mr. trump can hear us, let's just get it over with and get the ball rolling, you know. when you have to do an emergency tracheotomy, you're not concerned if what you're doing it with is the actual correct and precise knife. >> you just want things done. >> you just want things done.
sometimes you've got to build the plane as you go along. i was supposed to go to a fema distribution center that is in -- that's about 30, 40 miles from san juan. when there's one that's about 20 miles. and the answer was, well, that's how the plan was done. well, you know, the great plans of myself and men. things have to change. we've got to move fast. and frankly, we have to show the world that we can do it, and in that respect i want to thank all of you people from the news that have been doing such a great job in amp fieg our voices and making sure that people know that we're here and that we count on you to get our voice out there. >> there's a lot of people counting on you. thank you very much for being with us. thank you very much. >> we'll have more from puerto rico. we'll be right back. to your every move. there. i can also help with this. does your bed do that? i'm the new sleep number 360 smart bed.
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hh secretary tom price has resigned after down playing the reporting by politico about his private jet use, then yesterday saying well, i'm going to reimburse the taxpayers. but it wasn't really reimbursing for the full corps of those private jet flights to nashville, tennessee which he could have gotten commercially for a lot cheaper or to saint simon island. he was just going to reimburse for one seat is if the plane was going to go to those places without him. dan, when you started reporting on this, a, how long ago was it? and did you have any idea it would lead to this? >> anderson, i remember the night vividly. it was four months ago back in may and my colleague had gotten the first tip on tom price taking charter jets. hadn't been able to make a lot of headway. she brought it to me and i remember thinking then how big it could be if we could just get the story right and it took time
and care to get all the details we need to do show not just that he was taking a few charter flights but really the extent and cost of it. >> and dan, i've got to say the song and dance that tom price and his people did about your reporting, i mean, from denials to, you know, saying, oh, there wasn't that many trips to, you know, i have such a busy schedule, i have to take these planes to -- there was no other commercial flight available to i'm going to reimburse but not really. i mean, it was just one thing even until the moment when tom price on thursday said i will repay for my seat on the plane we were being told by hhs, this was defensible. this was normal, it was needed. so a very sudden shift, and a very quick move from admitting guilt to now being out of office. >> amanda, clearly president
trump was not happy about this. and that is why the resignation happened. i guess it was a firing, but they called it a resignation officially. there have been a lot of people from trump's inner circle who have now left in a short period of time. i wonder what you think this says about the president and the white house. >> well, it really puts the president in a bind when it comes to obamacare, because they were supposed to get a lot of stuff done but that never really happened. i have to thank dan at politico, and the colleagues, because they likely saved taxpayers millions of dollars, because it's not just tom price, donald trump's administration does have a plane problem. there is more investigations going on. and i think that with price resigning, there may be an end put to this. general kelly, chief of staff put out a memo saying they're going to start to vet and look
at all of these and just because it may pass legal muster does not make these sorts of activities right. so this just proves shining a bright light on these practices is so important, because anderson you are standing in the middle of a crisis in puerto rico, we must have good taxpayer dollars so that money is available to truly help people who need it and not just give members of the administration a cushy plane ride. >> and dan, for those in the administration, the saying was drain the swamp, drain the swamp. tom price was flying over the swamp in a private jet. and was criticizing nancy pelosi for flying across the country in a private jet. >> not only did he criticize others who were in office, just recently there was a proposal of a cut of more than $600,000.
and what was ironic about it, he spent more himself than $600,000, only in a four-month span of time. >> and if i could just jump in there. tom price was a guy who knew better. this was why there was no support for him when this report came out. for republicans he was supposed to be a model fiscal conservative. he was head of the budget committee and the study committee, which to really conservatives, this was a really good resume. so when it started to drift out and watch members of the administration defend the practice, members of who we knew the names of who tried to justify it, it was just staggering to think that tom price would let republicans down this way. i hope all republicans take a look at this, because tom price
was a guy who was supposed to do better. and he blew it. this was all of his own making. the opportunities for republicans are dwindling by the end of the year, so this better be a pitch by republicans getting out of line. >> thank you for your reporting, it makes us all proud. thank you very much. we'll have more from here in san juan and across puerto rico. one of the greatest chefs in the world, jose an addredres, has j me here. we'll talk to people doing what they can, big and small. ♪ one look at you and i can't disguise ♪ ♪ i've got hungry eyes ♪ applebee's 2 for $20. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. applebee's 2 for $20. pcountries thatk mewe traveled,t what is your nationality and i would always answer hispanic. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker.
friend, jose andres, i ran into andres in haiti a couple of months ago, he was in harvey, feeding people. and you came down here just to try to do what you could. >> again, i came to learn, but in the process of learning, we made 1500 meals, second day, 3500, third day we did 5,000 meals, today we did over 5,000, today we will reach 10,000. >> are you doing this by yourself? >> i'm only a cheerleader, i came and made sure, i had food. and as a chef, i know always how to get food. i have many friends in this island. that is why i have a restaurant here and have been coming to this island for many years. i tried to find a heart. i went to a restaurant called
enrique. i told him man, right here we have a parking -- we need to start doing more, okay, let's do it. when they became 2,000, it became 4,000, today it's not much. as you said, it's a drop, but to know that tomorrow we're feeding 10,000 meals and we're going to keep doing this, it feels very good. >> i was in a town close by, in a home, people were cooking for everybody on the block. you really see that all over the place. you're a part of that, you said you cried a lot today. >> i was crying a lot today because i know we can do better. i know that the people of puerto rico are amazing people. we need to remember them and send this message, the people in puerto rico are americans like you and like me. don't forget about that. the people of puerto rico are americans that happen to live on an island. and the people in puerto rico are family people like every
single american in the homeland. and they are religious people, and they are liberals, and they are republicans and democrats. they are people that they are only looking for a better tomorrow. what you see is the heart of puerto rico, that when there is moments of hardship, they come together and with nothing they're able to do a lot. >> i have seen the mayor, i just think it's so sad. i've had people say to me today i'm an american. tell people i'm an american. the fact that people on this island female liel like they ha say, the fact that you have to say you're americans, it's sad. >> this is sad, i have been to haiti, i have been after the last two hurricanes, with anthony before then. and the amount of help that came from americans was far way bigger than the amount of help that has come to puerto rico from the military. at one point we had 25,000
military in haiti, and we're not very close to that right here in puerto rico. so the message is simple. mr. trump, we want you to lead, but let's keep doing what we have done successfully before, not less, equally, let's learn from the past and make sure we learn from past mistakes. >> i don't want you to get in a fight with the administration because you have been there once or twice. but this was part of the plan, we didn't need a lot of people here earlier. a three-star general, from what you have seen, do you wish that impact was bigger sooner? >> let's put things in perspective. nobody is more organized than the military. when i was a young boy i was in the navy. i understand the values that the military brings to kitchens like this. they are organized. they understand command. they understand hierarchy and they make things happen. so when you have a situation like this, military is always
welcome. so i wish they came before. but, i know they're trying to be -- they're bringing the three-star generals here, and i hope they're bringing more military. but i'm a cook and i care about feeding people. and we have three million people and probably over a million and a half need somebody to be feeding them for the next two toor three weeks. what i'm asking is what is the plan? with nothing, with no support, we have been able to feed tomorrow, 10,000 people, probably then,000 people, i just offered the mayor of san juan 3,000 meals and she began crying. so i can't believe the mayor is able to deliver 3,000 meals. sunday i want to do what i think is the first hot meal operation. they need this, food is in the islands, it's bakeries producing bread nonstop. factories like budweiser and
coke, and houston, they started plans to produce water. the water should not be an issue. the true issue is the lack of gas, we need to make sure we cover that need and we start to move this stuff forward. >> yes, gas gets distribution, jose, thank you very much. >> we'll take a short break and talk to the governor of puerto rico when we return.