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i realize it's difficult, but it's been 12 days now and it hasn't happened. >> sanjay gupta and borris sanchez, i appreciate your reporting. in just a few moments authorities are expected to brief reporters and the public on the progress they have made, the latest on the investigation since thousands of shots rained down behind me. as we wait for the press conference to begin, i want to go to kyung lah. what more do we know about the run-up to this? >> we know he was very methodical. he planned for this for a long time. >> collecting weapons? >> collecting weapons, phillips look at the weapons history. perhaps most startling in what we learned in the last inference from the sheriff were these cameras, cameras that were inside hotel room, cameras that were in the hallway. the sheriff explaining the reason he had these cameras out here is because he wanted to see when law enforcement would be approaching. and that was very clear,
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anderson. >> it seems like he -- i don't know if it was the cameras that gave him the warning that law enforcement was approaching. he did fire at law enforcement when they initially came. >> right. what they did discover is they did have that exchange. he was alive on that first contact. it wasn't until that second contact after that exchange of fire that that's when they discovered that he took his life. >> there was that exchange of fire, then the first team backed off basically, got people away from the rooms in the surrounding rooms. do we know how long the gap was between that and when the s.w.a.t. team actually arrived to breach the door. >> it's unclear as far as the ticktock. it was 74 minutes from the shooting to when they were able to reach the room. the some time ago still a little bit murky. >> still so much that we don't know about motivations, things like that. >> absolutely. that's perhaps most frustrating. you know from having covered unfortunately so many of these,
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we simply don't have a clear motivation as of yet, and that's why these constant inferences, that's the question that keeps coming up over and over again from reporters, what was the motivation. they try to focus on the guns. 49 guns accumulated from three different sites. and we went to one gun shop in utah. he went to arizona, california, nevada, we went to utah and spoke to a gun shop owner and here's what the gun shop owner told us. >> every federal regulation that is in place, he passed. he passed right through them with no problems. he passed all of our background checks here in the store. he passed every red flag that could have popped up. but it's still there. it's still something going what else could i have done better, what could i have done? there's nothing. >> he has a sense of guilty obviously. >> even though he sold him a
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shotgun. that's what i found remarkable. the weapons that were found that we've seen so far, the high-powered rifles. i found that quite stored. and he says what we have to understand is we cannot vilify gun shop owners. guns are legal in the united states through some checks. there has to be a conversation about it. she says that gun shop owners should try to see those red flags, that he missed something. >> no criminal record that we know of with this guy. do we know much about the girlfriend? >> that's what we all want to know about this girlfriend. she's in the philippines. we understand she's cooperating. she's a person of interest. we heard that clearly from the sheriff. she lived with him not just in his -- >> i'm told the sprrchz about to begin. let's listen in. >> i'm going to provide you the final briefing for today. as promised in our last briefing, we now have the site up and running. it's a list of resources available to our victims u our
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victims involved in the route 91 harvest festival shooting. information on the site includes instructions on how to report information if you are a witness, important phone numbers on how to provide photo and video evidence. as the sheriff told you previously, we'll post that on the page as well. after this incident one of the most striking visuals in addition to the absolute carnage was the sheer amount of personal items left behind as people fled from the terror. one of the biggest items left were vehicles of the concert goers. so for those people that are waiting to get that property returned to them, i have an update. there's a dirt lot on the corner of guile street, g-i-l-e-s between ali baba and mandalay road. there's approximately 150 vehicles over there that citizens have not been able to
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be recovered. they can be picked up by the registered owner. we ask those owners to meet our officers at the corner corner of reno and covalue. bring your visitation so we can match you back to your vehicle. the sheriff in the previous press conference was asked a number of questions by you. and i understand in the insatiable appetite of the media, you want some answers. i'm going to try to answer a couple of those questions that you asked. but i'm also going to make it very clear to you that i need some patience from you. this investigation is a long time from being concluded. we recently went down to the mandalay bay. i can tell you that we're days away from completion of the
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processing of that room. we're getting very close to the completion of the processing of the site. we have a significant a. time left there as well, however, the southbound portion of las vegas boulevard is now completely open. we are also working diligently as we speak. we opened two of the northbound lanes, and the completion of the northbound lanes should occur sometime this evening. so bearing in mind that the investigation is dynamic, ongoing, continuing, and you don't have a lot of answers for you yet. clearly understanding that nobody wants answers to why more than the police and the victims' families. but we have a responsibility to get it right, and that's why it's going to take time, and that's why we're going to take that time. however, there's some, i guess, at best interesting reporting about how long the shooting lasted and how long it took us
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to get into the room. first question is how long did the actually shooting last. i'm prepared to give you information on that. the first call came into our dispatch center at 10:08 p.m. the suspect fired off and on for somewhere between nine and 11 minutes. we know that the suspect fired over a dozen or so volleys, and we know that the firing by the suspect ceased at 10:19. i want you to think about that. the first minute the police are aware of shots being fired at 10:08, and it stops at 10:19. that's a remarkable response by this police department. also, another question that came up, how long was it before our s.w.a.t. team entered the suspect's room. somebody said it was 72 minutes. as i just mentioned to you, as
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the sheriff mentioned previously in the briefing, we had patrol officers working another event at the mandalay bay who heard the shooting and they took it upon themselves to form up into a team, enter the stairwell, begin ascending the floors, and evacuating hotel guests. the s.w.a.t. team had to arrive first at the mandalay bay before they could take any action. as i mentioned earlier, there was a very heroic security guard who was shot during the search for that suspect. that security guard went up to the room, he was advancing towards the room when the suspect fired through the door at the security guard and struck him. he was able to provide additional information to the police on exactly which room we were looking at. however, at that time it's important to note that the shooting had stopped. we're considering it a barricade at that point because we're not hearing further shots. the floors had already been
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evacuated of the guests. the percent is was isolated and you contained within a room. at the the point s.w.a.t. team made their decision based on when it was appropriate to enter, i want to make it clear, again, to you that while there was that slight delay, the suspect was no longer firing into the crowd. there was a question about the validity of the crime scene photos somebody had leaked. i can confirm those are in fact photos from inside of the room. they are in fact photos of our suspect, and as the sheriff mentioned previously we have opened up an internal investigation to determine the source of the leaks of those photos to the public. you asked what we found in the suspect's room and the sheriff spoke a little bit about cameras being located. to clarify, there were two cameras located in the hallway so that the suspect could watch as law enforcement or security approached his room.
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and there was another camera placed inside the hotel room door peephole so that he could see down the hallway. at this point you had a number of questions about the weapons and the s.a.c. from the atf to my right, jill shnice dayer will answer provide a statement you to but not take any questions. >> good evening. i'm special agent in charge jill snider of a'stf san francisco field division. special agents from the san francisco field divisions las vegas field office responded to the shooting that occurred on sunday. additional agents from other locations within the san francisco field division as well as agents from atfs los angeles, dallas, phoenix, and boston field divisions have been working on this investigation. we know that you have many questions regarding the firearms in this case.
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there's also been a lot of unofficial information being reported regarding the guns. we'd like to clear up conflicting information regarding the number of firearms and the current status of the trace information. please understand that this investigation is ongoing and i won't taking questions at this time because we're still working through all of our investigative findings, but i'll give you the facts that we have as of this time. currently 47 firearms have been are recovered. they were recovered from three different locations. those locations consisted of the hotel room as well as verde and mesquite, nevada. they were purchased in nevada, utah, california, and texas, the gunman purchased rifles, shotguns, and pistols. at this time none of the guns recovered appear to be home made.
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there were 12 bump fire stocks identified on the firearms in the hotel room. the atf firearms and technology division provides determines on devices such as bump fire stocks and their legality. the classification of these devices depends on where they mechanically alter the function of the firearm to fire fully automatic. bump pfeiffer stocks while simulating automatic fire do not actually alter the firearm to fire automatically, making them legal under current federal law. it is still being determined which firearms were used in the shooting. all of the firearms have been traced. we are still awaiting results from some of the firearms that were located at the mesquite residences. atf will continue to conduct skbufz provide our resources and full support to the sheriff and all our local law enforcement
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partners. thank you. >> thank you. as this investigation continues on, we continue to hear stories of heroics by police officers, first responders and average citizens alike. i commend all of their actions as they showed immense encourco in the face of extreme dachlkt one of those brave people was las vegas officer charleston hartfield. he was at the concert that night along with his wife when shots rang out. even though officer hartfield was at the concert as a civilian, he immediately took action to save lives. in that moment he was acting as a police officer. he ultimately gave his life protecting others. officer hartfield was an 11-year member of the lvmpd and leaves
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behind a wife and two children. we're grateful for his sacrifice. there will be a vigil to remember the officer at the police memorial park at 6:00 p.m. as y'all know that park is located at 3250 metro academy way and it's being hosted by our police protective association. as this community has become acustomed, we release body camera footage to you. there's a significant amount of body-worn camera footage we're going through. however, i'm going to play a clip on our new very large monitor for you of a compilation of a number of those body-worn cameras. you'll see that the officers were dealing with some uncooperative citizens at times,
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but at all times they were trying to locate the source of the gunfire as well as evacuate those citizens that were in the line of fire. i think the video will speaks for itself. i'll try to narrate a little bit for you. carlos, if i could play that for me, please. that wall faces mandalay bay and they are hunkered down behind that bawl wall after an initial volley of shots. [ sirens ] >> get down! >> get down! >> go that way! get out of here there's gunshots coming from over there.
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go that way! >> go that way! [ gunshots ] >> at this point they're still trying to figure out where the rounds are coming from. [ gunfire ] [ sirens ] [ gunfire ] >> go that way, go that way, go that way. >> everybody stay down, stay down. >> where's it at? >> clear to the window. >> get behind. [ inaudible ] >> a couple officers hunkered down before behind a vehicle when one of our officers gets shot.
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>> go back! go back! >> get back, get back, get back. >> get in there. >> this video is obscured. you notice the officers were wearing those yellow reflective vests. that's what you're actually seeing. >> everybody get down, get down, get down. [ gunfire ] >> very difficult to tell from that video, but they officer's standing over another woman. [ gunfire ] >> get down, get down, get down! >> he says i have a vest on.
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>> go, go. >> this way, this way, this way. >> go, go, go, that way, that way, that way. >> so before i take some questions, i understand that the corone coroners is here now. >> thank you, sheriff. island like to start by saying my condolences go out to all those that are involved in this incident, and specifically the family and friends who have lost loved ones in this incident. i would like to provide you some updated information on what's happening at the family assistance center at the convention center. we're fully operational all evening, all through the night and tomorrow at noon we'll make a determination whether or not
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we're going to be open 24 hours going forward. but at minimum, we will be open from present time to 5:00 p.m. tomorrow. so we're still fully operational to answer any questions the families may have, any friends of the families. we are not releasing property at the family assistance center. that is as the sheriff mentioned earlier, that is going to be released. they are developing a plan currently to release that property in the future, and i'm certain that will put out during one of these press conferences. i'd like to discuss some of the numbers we've been dealing with over here. i've been asked my multiple media outlets. we've served well over one thousand family and friends. we're providing services to include bereavement services, and our staff at the clark county coroners office is meeting with every family that comes in there.
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i would like, again, to thank them. they are an amazing group of people and they've been doing an amazing job in serving these families. i think everybody except for the families would consider this a huge success at the family assistance center and rightfully so. if the families are waiting one minute longer for us to provide information, that's too long. so they've been very patient. i appreciate that. and i just want to send a message to them we are doing everything we can to communicate with them and get them the information that they need. if they want to come down to the family sninz center, we're there to receive them and communicate with them. if they're not able to attend the family assistance center, i'd like to provide you with a phone number, within the stave nevada, 211, outside that's 18665355654. we have call takers standing by to take missing persons reports.
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i believe that's tailored off quite a bit. today we have received over 3,000 missing persons reports. and i'd like to clarify what that means so people don't misreport the intent of that number or the intent of me giving you that number. that by no means means that we have 3,000 people missing. we believe that all 59 of the deceased are identified. tentatively we're working on positively identifying the resentmerest of them between 9:00 and 10:00 p.m. that's normal for us to receive an excessive amount of missing persons reports following an incident like that. again, that be no means we have outstanding missing persons. we have very detailed manifest and we believe everyone involved in the incident from the decent
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standpoint is accounted for and we're waiting to communicate that with the families. i'm available to answer questions you have. i have limited time to answer questions so i'll take a few. yes, go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >>, yes,, the majority of theme did. i'm not at liberality to tell you whether all of them died as a result of gunshot wounds simply because i don't know at this point. [ inaudible question ] >> i'm working with the metropolitan police department to develop that list, and we'll make that public. i imagine that's not going to happen until the earliest tomorrow morning. [ inaudible question ] >> as i spoke to earlier, we have tentatively identified them, but we're working on some confirmation issues, and i'm confident they will all be
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identified. we believe we know who every single one of them is, it's just a matter of confirming that. we don't have the liberty to make mistakes. we've got to get this right, so we need your patience and we're going to work through the night to get that right and i'm hopeful we'll have all those confirmed by tomorrow morning and the families notified. yes, sir? >> you said the majority died of gunshot wounds -- [ inaudible question ] >> i don't believe so, but, again, i can't confirm that right now. >> mr. coroners have you completed an autopsy -- >> i'm not going to speak to the details of the examinations at this point. >> have you completed it? >> i'm not going to speak to the
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examinations out of respect for the families. yes? [ inaudible question ] >> that's quite a lengthy process, but in a nut shell, the families of the deents will make arrangements with the local area motor wears a mortuaries and they will provide transportation to the home states. one last question if you would. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't have that estimation but we should have a list when it's confirmed. [ inaudible question ] >> it does not. excuse me, could you -- i'm not sure i understood that and i want to give you accurate information. [ inaudible question ] >> no, no. we have 58 dead plus the shooter for a total of 59.
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>> when you release the list, are you going to post it online at the same time you -- [ inaudible ] >> this is the last question. i don't know, but that will be announced by one of these press conferences probably later today or most likely at some point. and that's all the questions i'm going to take. thank you very much for your time. [ inaudible question ] >> i can clarify the 59. we have confirmed 59 dead in our office, yes. 58 plus the shooter for a total of 59. and that is confirmed. okay? thank you very much. sheriff? [ inaudible question ] >> i didn't call on you first, ken, but go ahead. >> is there another death somewhere else? we were told previously 59 plus one. >> we also told at you numbers of dead and wounded will continue to fluctuate, so the answer the coroners provided you
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is the most recent relevant number we have. >> is there any indication he was planning something else a couple weeks beforehand in our investigation are you seeing that? >> no. i'm not prepared to speak about that, but that is part of our investigation. >> with the knowledge that -- philippines -- knowing the current climate in the peeps, are you ruling out any connection to terrorism or anything like that. >> we haven't absolutely ruled anything out in this investigation. listen, i'm not trying to coy, but i can confirm to you we have not ruled anything out. >> i mentioned -- >> but i also confirmed that we have not ruled that in. so we have a lot more questions than we have answers today. [ inaudible question ] >> i understand that, we're well aware of that. >> can we get an update on any
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of the the electronics. >> it takes at the same time. let me finish before you ask, all right? thank you. go ahead. >> do you have information whether the shooter trained himself to fire these weapons? did he visit gun ranges? how did he train himself to fire these? >> do we have any information that the suspect had trained himself in firearms? i'm aware that online reporting as well. we have not been able to confirm information yet. >> is there a reason why the gunman stopped shooting? des officers outside? there's a time frame. >> the investigation will obviously reveal that. i believe personally because the security guards approached to the room, obviously took his attention away and he fired at the security guard. and then the immediate police response that fold. >> tell me what you're hoping to learn from this family when investigators speak with her.
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>> great question, i can't reveal that because we don't know yet. we have a lot of questions, i can tell you that. [ inaudible question ] >> the question is can i give you the exact time that s.w.a.t. entered. i was hoping to provide that to you today. we'll provide that in the flexion briefing. there's a delay because he was not firing anymore. we treated it as a barricade at that point. i don't know what the time line was. i'm trying to havverify that information. >> who came to the door with the security guard? >> is it "t" s.w.a.t. team is not your normal s.w.a.t. team. it was made up of both s.w.a.t. officers, patrol officers, and a k-9 unit. [ inaudible question ]
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>> i can't confirm that information now, but we've heard that same allegation. >> she's in the philippines. have people talked with her -- [ inaudible question ] >> the question is is ms. danley coming back to the country, and we're aware of some information, but not prepared to release that at this point in the investigation. >> is she in custody? >> can you at least confirm the reports that he wired $100,000 to an account in her name? >> can we confirm that $100,000 was wired to the philippines? the answer is no. we have financial subpoenas that the fbi has put out. remains an active part of our investigation. >> can you confirm what time the security officer was shot that approached the door? >> you know, it's just moments
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prior to our initial officers responding up there, so we'll add that to the questions that we can answer again tomorrow. with that i'm going to say this to you. i apologize. i forgot to introduce the special agent in charge of the las vegas field office, aaron raus. as you know, we've been joined at the hip from the very beginning. i'd like you tomg make sure you pay attention to our elected officials from across this great state and here locally, congressmen, and county commissioner chair steve sis lack. they've been instrumental in supporting our organization throughout this. and we need it. there's a lot more questions than there are answers, and we will provide those to you just as soon as we can. thank you. >> you heard the latest from
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authorities including, you just saw police body cam video erupting from above. you get a sense of the confusion as officers were trying to figure out exactly where the shots were coming from from the mandalay behind me. you heard about the bump fire slide stocks identified weapons in the hotel room. joining us is special agent james gagliano, and assistant secretary of homeland security. to me one of the interesting things is sort of the timeline breakdown, this guy was shooting for nine to 11 minutes they say, which sort of the answers question about why they waited for s.w.a.t. team to come in order to breach the room because it was no longer -- he wasn't actually firing. then it was a barricade situation. >> right, anderson. active shooter situations usually are between three to ten
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minutes. >> there has been a study since columbine and they say most deaths occur in the first ten minutes. >> at that point if you didn't have a ho montagenous s.w.a.t. immunity, a team that worked together, we've learned post-columbine is you can't do that. >> they waited and some of the people like the teacher bled out after laying on the floor after four hours. >> and i have to give kudos to the las vegas police department and their sheriff's department. as a former fbi s.w.a.t. team leader, what happened with the initial assault, the first guys that got up there the only one 11 minutes that works probably took the attention of the shooter away from the two windows in his barricaded situation, and that slowed him down. it goes from a hasty assault which was that we were doing to a deliberate assault as soon as he stops shooting because the
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only reason you would make an dynamic entry is this, first thing, stop more killing. second thing, if it's a hostage situation. we didn't believe there were hostages inside. now you take a step barks put together a plan, you bring in folks that have explosive breaching kpabl breaching capability. >> what we don't know at this point is, thank goodness the shooter stopped, but why he chose to stop. there was the initial confrontation, he shot through the door at the security guard. the police were there, the first responders are there, but then we don't know why he didn't continue firing outside that window. >> what we know so far, we know he had weapons that are on bipods and they were positioned at two doors and he created the perfect death funnel down there. the bump sticks that were used to, these are aftermarket products. they do not permanently most of
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the weapon. you jam the stick in and it keeps the bolt open so it continues to cycle. >> it is a work around. >> it is a workaround, absolutely. maybe because of the crazy sustained rate of fire. an m 4 can fire 900 rounds per minute. that heats the barrel up, possibly a jam. he possibly wanted to go back and forth. he funneled people back one way and the other, keep them in the kill zone. >> julwe don't know what type o training he had, but had the presence of mind to set up two cameras according to authorities to to see law enforcement coming and also a camera in the
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peephole, which i guess allowed him to fire at the security guard through door. >> that's exactly right. you know, since we don't know a motive yet, maybe to memorialize a moment of heroism however he in his mind views this, that he wanted to memorialize this act for himself or for the future. i have no doubt that we will eventually see some of those videos. we've already seen some of them. i wanted to say about the press conference, my two big takeaways, one is they are back tracking a little bit on the girlfriend. remember, earlier today they said she was en route. the sheriff would not confirm that now. i have my focus on her and i don't know where she is and the $100,000 they would not confirm. we don't have official verification that she's en route or she got this $100,000. the second thing is, of course, i want to get my numbers right.
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47 firearms, 12 bump stock devices. bump stock devices, you heard the woman from the atf, she was sort of twist and go turning trying to define what the pump stock device does and doesn't do. she says they don't mechanically alter the gun, therefore they're not illegal. even an atf person hards it hard to explain how they're university other than to alter the experience. while we're talking about the motive, we also need to really talk about these bump stock devices, 12 of them. how were they obtained, why were they obtained and why are they lawful on the market? not even the atf woman gave anything but i'd have to say a contorted explanation as to why they're legal. and the definition is they don't mechanically alter the gun.
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that doesn't pass a straight face test at this point, especially after a massacre. >> the idea that the initial team that is up there helped it change from an active shooter situation, he stopped firing out into the crowd, directed fire at the first responders, but then, according to authorities now, did not continue firing outside, which is why they were waiting for the s.w.a.t. team to arrive to actually breach it in the safest most professional way possible. >> that's exactly right because remember, there's communication probably ongoing at this time. while they're having him in a right position, in other words, he's not shooting at the stage, they don't know whether there's ied or something else set up or if they open the door the whole place will explode. their awareness is we have stopped the killing. remember, this is dynamic because down below as we saw in the video, the police are moving
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everyone out of what we've been calling this fish bowl. even if they only got five minutes, 20 minutes, 25 minutes, they are moving people out of the line of fire, so there's two things going on, both holding him in the hotel room and moving future victims or potential future victims out of the way. it sounds all right to me based on our experiences of other mass shootings at this stage. >> the undersheriff talked about how this killer built himself an armed bunker or gunner's nest in that room. james gagliano mentioned this as well. tom in our studio? >> we knew that he had this commanding view of the strip and the concert area over here from this 32nd floor of the mandalay bay. what is emerging is a picture of a man who built sort of a fortres up here, and a trap for any police who tried to come and
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get him out of this suite. when we talk about the hallway, the funnel of death, that's what we're talking about here. one hallway approaching this area. that's where he had two cameras outside, one hidden on a room service cart in this hallway, the other one aiming out of a peephole in the door, right there to look right down the hallway. that's the only way police officers could have approached this room. and inside the room, what did he have? an arsenal. he had 12 with bump stocks that would make them automatic. he's shoot 400, 500 yards, that's quite a distance out there. some of them had powerful scopes on them. he set up a receptacle to put them inside, and he had a tremendous amount of ammunition. in this shot you can see some of
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the magazines stacked there. this is one of the windows he was shooting you have to here. so he used this hammer to smash out some windows. we go in the front door and you can see if you turn right, next to the pill la is where he smashed is window and he smashed another one further down. from these positions, anderson, that's where he had this absolutely commanding view of everyone down below. as we were told now, he spent 9 to 11 minutes raining bullets down upon these people. anderson? >> sickening. tom, thanks very much for that. coming up, a couple married for 32 years. they were traveling until this terrorism his high school sweet heart died in his arms. we'll talk about that next. of d.
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>> tell me about denise. you were high school sweat hearts. >> we were. we met in high school and married thereafter. been married 32 years. denise always had a smile on her face and she never met a stranger. she could bein the grocery store line and start talking you to or at a concert with 20, 30,000 people and she would be talking. >> making friends. >> absolutely. life of her surroundings. >> when did you know she was the one? >> in high school. >> really? that's incredible. >> and i have in 32 years it grew stronger every day. it just got better every day. >> did you know right away that something was bad happening? some people we talked to thought it was pyrotechnics. >> bewhen we stood there affected and she asked me if it was gunfire. it was during the second burst that we knew and started to leave, trying to get out of there. >> was getting out -- there was
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such pandemonium. >> i can't say -- i didn't see what people were talking about. it was a great deal of running. i was leaving through crowd. i initially thought it was an attack from the ground from the back corner. i wasn't aware. i looked at the at the building and didn't see anything. if we had it would probably be a different route out of there. >> were you able to talk to her. >> she was unconscious from the time she was struck. >> what happens now? you live in west virginia. you're going to stay here until you know you can bring her home. >> she's on her way back home. i'll travel back and be with the rest of my family. two kids back there. she has four grand children and a fifth one on the way.
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>> i heard those grandkids were the light of her life? >> they were. we spent at least a month and a half with them each summer traveling. and going around with them. they enjoyed their g-ma. >> that's what they called her? g-ma? is there anything else you want people to know. i always think something like this, none of these people should be statistics. >> she was a professional banking most of her adult life. she got out of there and just recently last year became a full-time student going to college. she was dedicated to that. in her free time i got to speak to her, but she was dedicated to it. i can't say enough. her smile and there wasn't a day that went by that if i was out of town or something, i'd get a selfie on her way to the gym or on her way to school. i would get a huge smile. if i didn't get it, i would text
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her back and she would send me one back with a smile. >> that's a blessing. >> out of this whole ordeal, i would like to mention the good samaritans during this. there was a gentleman that helped me move her back to a little bit safer area at that time, a young nurse was with me. she spent the remaining time with us to include a ride in the hospital. >> that's how you got to the hospital? >> yes. i just -- these people, i don't know their names. i'd like to thank them all. also the crisis center here in town has been unbelievable in helping us get through this also. >> a lot of people would be amazed that you're standing and able to talk. >> i've had my good times and bad times.
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the times we've had reflecting through photos, flipping through my phone and tablet and seeing her, eight miss her and her family will miss her greatly. >> i appreciate you talking to us about denise and letting us know what she was like. >> my pleasure. >> so sorry for your loss. >> i just wanted the world to know who she was. she was a great person. >> thank you. tony and ber niece, married 32 years. left behind two kids, four grand children, another grandchild on the way. more news ahead. we'll be right back. want a snack?
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number of ads were placed in states that were key to president trump's victory. what have you learned? >> that's right, anderson. a number of ads were targeting michigan and wisconsin, these two states critical to donald trump's victory last november. four sources of this knowledge tell my colleagues that the ads were intended to promote divisive messages including anti-muslim messages even suggesting muslims were a threat to the american way of life. it's been unclear until now which regions of the country were targeted by these ads. some clearly were geared at swaying public opinion in the most heavily contested battle grounds. you remember last week we reported another racially aimed ad seemed to we in support of black lives matter but also
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could seem as threatening to that group. >> so do we know if they had help to choose a target? >> well he told me tonight, quote, we still don't know whether in the campaign was involved in the ad campaign effort. robert mueller and committees are seeking to determine whether they received any help at all from trump associates. the president and senior white house officials have long insisted there was never any collusion. of course trump has long contended the matter is a hoax. but these ads reported 3,000 submitted to congressional leade committee members this week. michigan and wisconsin are the first two we're learning about. and they were critical in 2016 where these ads appeared.
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now, of course, we have no way of knowing if these ads affected the vote. wisconsin, of course, anderson, one of the tightest racing states as well. trump winning by there by just 22,700 votes. investigators have a lot more to determine about the exact impact these ads had on the election outcome, anderson. >> thanks very much. joining me now is steve hall, who's a former cia officer and expert on russia and david chalian. it's raising questions whether russia new about these ads. >> that's right. was russia injecting itself and meddling in the election
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sophisticated enough to know exactly where to gtarget these places. that to me is going to be the central question that investigators are going to dig into for weeks to come now. >> steve, does it surprise you that the russians would have enough expertise on u.s. electoral politics to target specific states with specific messages? because a lot of this is public information if they were just students of u.s. politics they might be able to figure out, no? >> yeah, anderson, it really doesn't surprise me. for the russians we are the main enemy. they refer to us as such. no, it doesn't surprise me the resources they throw at something like this are truly amazing. it's something we probably couldn't wrap our arms around in
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terms of how much money and people they put into understanding this. i think every member of the american democracy should be absolutely infuriated that the russians who are a hostile country to the united states would try to do this in one of our elections. the only thing that would be even more irritating is if they had help as david was just talking about from somebody in the inside. today we don't know yet, but certainly the russians would be interested in doing and having the resources to pull off. the only question is if they had help on the inside. >> it always seems to come back to the idea as he uses every story of being some sort of asterisk on his victory even though the investigations haven't concluded yet. >> nonat all. and not even many investigations are suggestioning that's where
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this will go in questioning his luzwrit maes. but the president time and again not only has he taken up the batt battle -- he does not seem capable of separating facts as they emerge about this threat to our democracy from somebody calling into the legitimacy of his own election. he cannot separate those two things out thus far. >> you know, steve as russians watch this reporting, are they thinking, well, we got caught or is it just business as usual? >> i think there's a real strong distinction between, you know, the man on the street in russia who probably doesn't understand our system, doesn't understand what states, you know, may have been involved, how this was all rigged. but certainly the russian population is extremely supportive of vladimir putin. and a lot of that does depend on
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how he deals with the united states and with the west. and specifically whether not he is being strong enough, whether or not he is being strict and stern enough so that russia gets the amount of respect that it feels it gets. that's the type of terms i think the russians frankly on the street and the kremlin are concerned about -- are we being respected as a great power and are we dealing strongly enough with the united states? he's a very popular guy, vladimir putin, and russians would support him in his attempts to do what he did in our elections. >> michigan and wisconsin, absolutely critical part of that crumbling blue wall we talked about all the time in the lead up to the election. critical to donald trump's success. but even if he were to have lost those two specific states, we should note donald trump still would have had enough electoral votes to still be elected president of the united states.
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>> yeah, david chalian, steve hall, thanks for being with us. we'll be back here in las vegas tomorrow with more reporting on what happened here. time now to turn things over to don lemon who is also live in las vegas. don. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. we are live in las vegas. here's our breaking news. investigators piecing together clues to the worst massacre in modern american history. and what we're learning is stunning. new photos from inside stephen paddock's hotel room at the mandalay bay right behind me. the photos show a luxurious room scattered with guns and ammunition. and in one what police confirm tonight is the lifeless body of the shooter. police just minutes ago releasing body