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themselves to hand out food on saturday, the kind of supplies on their own. they got a truck from american red cross, but that was the first time they had been able to hand out food and they have been there for almost a week. what are you seeing on the ground? obviously day after day i would assume there's a lot of forward momentum. what are you seeing on the ground? >> it's a really challenging story and challenging question because there are some people who are doing incredibly good work and who've been here from the beginning. there was a rush i think in some cases to get some of these supplies onto the island. the frustration, i think, then is everything that's come after that. you have life-saving supplies but can't get them to the people who need them. it almost makes it worse because they're there, and sometimes it's antibiotics, and you can't get it to the people who need it over here. there's a lot of reasons for that, bad communications, shortages of fuel and drivers,
but it's incredibly frustrating. one of the hospitals i visited yesterday just outside of the central part of the island, it's a hospital that's caring for some 200 patients. they have patients in the icu. they are still on generator power. the generators were working when i was there, but they have no idea at it generators are going to continue to work, or if they're going to continue to get fuel. they had to move patients twice from the icu to a different part of the hospital. would you take care of critical patients not knowing if you're going to get fuel, or medications you need? i don't understand, and you experienced this. there's 70 hospitals. we don't even have s.a.t. phones. there are hospitals out there that can't communicate with fema. fema is in some ways, they have
lots of supplies on the ground, lots of resources. if you can't communicate with the hospitals, they can't communicate with you, how's that going to work? i realize it's difficult, but it's been 12 days now and it hasn't happened. >> sanjay gupta and borris sanchez, i appreciate your reporting. we'll continue to check in with you in the hours ahead. in just a few moments authorities are expected to brief reporters and the public on the progress they have made, the latest on the investigation since thousands of shots rained down behind me. as we wait for the press conference to begin, i want to go to kyung lah. what more do we know about the run-up to this? >> we know he was very methodical. we know that the planning, according to the sheriff, he planned for this for a long time. >> collecting weapons? >> collecting we correspondents, especially if you look at the weapons history. perhaps most startling in what we learned in the last inference from the sheriff were these cameras, cameras that were inside hotel room, cameras that were in the hallway. the sheriff explaining the reason he had these cameras out
here is because he wanted to see when law enforcement would be approaching. he knew what the outcome was going to be. and that was very clear, anderson. >> it seems like he -- i don't know if it was the cameras that gave him the warning that law enforcement was approaching. he did fire at law enforcement when they initially came. >> right. what they did discover is they did have that exchange. he was alive on that first contact. it wasn't until that second contact after that exchange of fire that that's when they discovered that he took his life. >> there was that exchange of fire, then the first team backed off basically, got people away from the rooms in the surrounding rooms. do we know how long the gap was between that and when the s.w.a.t. team actually arrived to breach the door. >> it's unclear as far as the ticktock. it was 74 minutes from the shooting to when they were able to reach the room. so the timing is still a little bit murky. >> still so much that we don't
know about motivations, things like that. >> absolutely. that's perhaps most frustrating. you know from having covered unfortunately so many of these, we simply don't have a clear motivation as of yet, and that's why these constant news conferences, that's a question that keeps coming up over and over again from reporters, what was the motivation? they try to focus on the guns. 49 guns accumulated from three different sites. and we went to one gun shop in utah. he went to arizona, california, nevada, we went to utah and spoke to a gun shop owner and here's what the gun shop owner told us. >> every federal regulation that is in place, he passed. he passed right through them with no problems. he passed all of our background checks here in the store. he passed every red flag that could have popped up. but it's still there. it's still something going what else could i have done better, what could i have done? there's nothing.
>> he has a sense of guilt, obviously. >> even though he sold him a shotgun. that's what i found remarkable. he sold him a shotgun. the weapons that were found that we've seen so far, the high-powered rifles. i find that quite extraordinary. and he says what we have to understand is we cannot vilify gun shop owners. guns are legal in the united states through some checks. there has to be a conversation about it. he says that gun shop owners should try to see those red flags, that he missed something. >> that's the thing. there's no criminal record that we know of with this guy. do we know much about the girlfriend? >> that's what we all want to know about this girlfriend. she's in the philippines. we understand she's cooperating. she's a person of interest. we heard that clearly from the sheriff. she lived with him not just in his -- >> i'm told the press conference is about to begin. let's listen in. >> i'm going to provide you the final briefing for today. as promised in our last briefing, we now have the
lvmpd.com site up and running. it's a list of resources available to our victims, our victims involved in the route 91 harvest festival shooting. information on the site includes instructions on how to report information if you are a witness, important phone numbers on how to provide photo and video evidence. as the sheriff told you previously, we'll post that on the page as well. after this incident one of the most striking visuals in addition to the absolute carnage was the sheer amount of personal items left behind as people fled from the terror. one of the biggest items left were vehicles of the concertgoers. so for those people that are waiting to get that property returned to them, i have an update. there's a dirt lot on the corner of guile street, g-i-l-e-s between ali baba and mandalay road. there's approximately 150
vehicles over there that citizens have not been able to be recovered. they can be picked up by the registered owner. by meeting officers at the corner of reno and covall. we'll have officers permanently assigned there. we ask those owners to meet our officers at the corner of reno and coval. bring your identification so we can match you back to your vehicle. the sheriff in the previous press conference was asked a number of questions by you. and i understand in the insatiable appetite of the media, you want some answers. i'm going to try to answer a couple of those questions that you asked. but i'm also going to make it very clear to you that i need some patience from you. this investigation is a long time from being concluded.
we recently went down to the mandalay bay. i can tell you that we're days away from completion of the processing of that room. we're getting very close to the completion of the processing of the site. we have a significant amount of time left there, as well. however, the southbound portion of las vegas boulevard is now completely open. we are also working diligently as we speak. we opened two of the northbound lanes, and the completion of the northbound lanes should occur sometime this evening. so bearing in mind that the investigation is dynamic, ongoing, continuing, and i don't have a lot of answers for you yet. clearly understanding that nobody wants answers to why more than the police and the victims' families. but we have a responsibility to get it right, and that's why it's going to take time, and
that's why we're going to take that time. however, there's some, i guess, at best interesting reporting about how long the shooting lasted and how long it took us to get into the room. first question is how long did the actually shooting last. i'm prepared to give you information on that. the first call came into our dispatch center at 10:08 p.m. about shots being fire. the suspect fired off and on for somewhere between nine and 11 minutes. we know that the suspect fired over a dozen or so volleys, and we know that the firing by the suspect ceased at 10:19. i want you to think about that. the first minute the police are aware of shots being fired at 10:08, and it stops at 10:19. that's a remarkable response by this police department. also, another question that came up, how long was it before our s.w.a.t. team entered the
suspect's room? somebody said it was 72 minutes. and if so, why so long? as i just mentioned to you, as the sheriff mentioned previously in the briefing, we had patrol officers working another event at the mandalay bay who heard the shooting and they took it upon themselves to form up into a team, enter the stairwell, begin ascending the floors, and evacuating hotel guests. the s.w.a.t. team had to arrive first at the mandalay bay before they could take any action. as i mentioned earlier, there was a very heroic security guard who was shot during the search for that suspect. that security guard went up to the room, he was advancing towards the room when the suspect fired through the door at the security guard and struck him. he was able to provide additional information to the police on exactly which room we were looking at. however, at that time it's important to note that the shooting had stopped. we're considering it a barricade at that point because we're not
hearing further shots. the floors had already been evacuated of the guests. the suspect was now isolated and contained within a room. at the the point s.w.a.t. team made their decision based on when it was appropriate to enter, i want to make it clear, again, to you that while there was that slight delay, the suspect was no longer firing into the crowd. there was a question about the validity of the crime scene photos somebody had leaked. i can confirm those are in fact photos from inside of the room. they are in fact photos of our suspect, and as the sheriff mentioned previously we have opened up an internal investigation to determine the source of the leaks of those photos to the public. you asked what we found in the suspect's room and the sheriff spoke a little bit about cameras being located. to clarify, there were two
cameras located in the hallway so that the suspect could watch as law enforcement or security approached his room. and there was another camera placed inside the hotel room door peephole so that he could see down the hallway. at this point you had a number of questions about the weapons and the s.a.c. from the atf to my right, jill schneider will answer or provide a statement to you but not take any questions. >> good evening. i'm special agent in charge jill snider of atf san francisco field division. special agents from the san francisco field divisions las vegas field office responded to the shooting that occurred on sunday. additional agents from other locations within the san francisco field division as well as agents from atfs los angeles, dallas, phoenix, and boston field divisions have been working on this investigation.
we know that you have many questions regarding the firearms in this case. there's also been a lot of unofficial information being reported regarding the guns. we'd like to clear up conflicting information regarding the number of firearms and the current status of the trace information. please understand that this investigation is ongoing and i won't be taking questions at this time because we're still working through all of our investigative findings. but i'll give you the facts that we have as of this time. currently 47 firearms have been recovered. they were recovered from three different locations. those locations consisted of the hotel room as well as verde and mesquite, nevada. they were purchased in nevada, utah, california, and texas, the gunman purchased rifles,
shotguns, and pistols. at this time none of the guns recovered appear to be home made. there were 12 bump fire stocks identified on the firearms in the hotel room. the atf firearms and technology division provides determinations on devices such as bump fire stocks and their legality. the classification of these devices depends on where they mechanically alter the function of the firearm to fire fully automatic. bump fire stocks, while simulating automatic fire do not actually alter the firearm to fire automatically, making them legal under current federal law. it is still being determined which firearms were used in the shooting. all of the firearms have been traced. we are still awaiting results from some of the firearms that were located at the mesquite
residence. as the investigation proceeds, atf will continue to conduct interviews and provide our resources and full support to the sheriff and all our local law enforcement partners. thank you. >> thank you. as this investigation continues on, we continue to hear stories of heroics by police officers, first responders and average citizens alike. i commend all of their actions as they showed immense courage in the face of extreme danger. i want to mention that one of those brave people was las vegas police officer charleston hartfield. he was at the concert that night along with his wife when shots rang out. even though officer hartfield was at the concert as a civilian, he immediately took action to save lives. in that moment he was acting as a police officer. he ultimately gave his life
protecting others. officer hartfield was an 11-year member of the lvmpd and leaves behind a wife and two children. we're grateful for his sacrifice. there will be a vigil to remember the officer at the police memorial park at 6:00 p.m. october 5. as y'all know that park is located at 3250 metro academy way and it's being hosted by our police protective association. as this community has become accustomed when we do provide information regarding our critical incidents, we release body camera footage to you. there's a significant amount of body-worn camera footage we're going through. however, i'm going to play a clip on our new very large monitor for you of a compilation of a number of those body-worn cameras.
you'll see that the officers were dealing with some uncooperative citizens at times, but at all times they were trying to locate the source of the gunfire as well as evacuate those citizens that were in the line of fire. i think the video will speaks for itself. i'll try to narrate a little bit for you as we go through. carlos, if you could play that for me, please. that wall faces mandalay bay and they are hunkered down behind that wall after an initial volley of shots. [ sirens ] >> get down!
>> go that way! get out of here there's gunshots coming from over there. go that way! >> go that way! [ gunshots ] >> at this point they're still trying to figure out where the rounds are coming from. [ gunfire ] [ sirens ] [ gunfire ] >> go that way, go that way, go that way. >> everybody stay down, stay down. >> where's it at? >> clear to the window. >> get behind. >> a couple officers hunkered
down next to a parole vehicle when one of our officers gets shot. >> go back! go back! >> get back, get back, get back. >> get in there. >> this video is obscured. you notice the officers were wearing those yellow reflective vests. that's what you're actually seeing. >> everybody get down, get down, get down. [ gunfire ] >> very difficult to tell from that video, but the officer's standing over another woman. [ gunfire ]
>> get down, get down, get down! >> he says i have a vest on. >> go, go. >> this way, this way, this way. >> go, go, go, that way, that way, that way. >> so before i take some questions, i understand that the coroners is here now. i'm sorry, i was looking right past you, john. >> thank you, undersheriff. again, i would like to start by saying my condolences go out to all those that are involved in this incident, and specifically the family and friends who have lost loved ones in this incident.
i would like to provide you some updated information on what's happening at the family assistance center at the convention center. we're fully operational all evening, all through the night and tomorrow at noon we'll make a determination whether or not we're going to be open 24 hours going forward. but at minimum, we will be open from present time to 5:00 p.m. tomorrow. so we're still fully operational to answer any questions the families may have, any friends of the families. i would like to clarify, we are not releasing property at the family assistance center. that is as the sheriff mentioned earlier, that is going to be released. they are developing a plan currently to release that property in the future, and i'm certain that will put out during one of these press conferences. i'd like to discuss some of the numbers we've been dealing with over there. i had that question earlier by multiple media outlets. we've served well over one thousand family members and friends at the assistance center. we're providing services to include bereavement services,
and our staff at the clark county coroners office is meeting with every family that comes in there. i would like, again, to thank them. they are an amazing group of people and they've been doing an amazing job in serving these families. i think everybody except for the families would consider this a huge success at the family assistance center and rightfully so. i think the reason the families may not is because if they're waiting one minute longer for us to provide information, that's too long. so they've been very patient. i appreciate that. and i just want to send a message to them we are doing everything we can to communicate with them and get them the information that they need. if they want to come down to the family assistance center, we're there to receive them and communicate with them. if they're not able to attend the family assistance center, i'd like to provide you with a phone number, within the stave nevada, 211, outside that's
1-866-535-5654. we have call takers standing by to take missing persons reports. i believe that's tailored off quite a bit. to date, we have received over 3,000 missing persons reports. and i'd like to clarify what that means so people don't misreport the intent of that number or the intent of me giving you that number. that by no means means that we have 3,000 people missing. we believe that all 59 of the deceased are identified. tentatively we're working on positively identifying the rest of them, and we believe that will happen by the end of this evening we estimate between 9:00 and 10:00 p.m. that's normal for us to receive an excessive amount of missing persons reports following an incident like that.
again, that by no means we have outstanding missing persons. we have very detailed manifest and we believe everyone involved in the incident from the deceased stand spoimt accounted for and we're waiting to communicate that with the families. i'm available to answer questions you have. i have limited time to answer questions so i'll take a few. yes, go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >>, yes, the majority of them did. i'm not at liberty to tell you whether all of them died as a result of gunshot wounds simply because i don't know at this point. [ inaudible question ] >> i'm working with the metropolitan police department to develop that list, and we'll make that public. i imagine that's not going to happen until the earliest tomorrow morning. [ inaudible question ] >> as i spoke to earlier, we
have tentatively identified them, but we're working on some confirmation issues, and i'm confident they will all be identified. we believe we know who every single one of them is, it's just a matter of confirming that. we don't have the liberty to make mistakes. we've got to get this right, so we need your patience and we're going to work through the night to get that right and i'm hopeful we'll have all those confirmed by tomorrow morning and the families notified. yes, sir? >> you said the majority died of gunshot wounds -- [ inaudible question ] >> i don't believe so, but, again, i can't confirm that right now. [ inaudible ] >> i'm not going to speak to the details of the examinations at this point. >> have you completed it? >> i'm not going to speak to the
details of any of the examinations at this point, primarily out of respect for the families. i hope you understand that. yes, did you have a question? [ inaudible question ] >> that's quite a lengthy process, but in a nut shell, the families of the decedents will make arrangements with the local area mortuaries and they will provide transportation back to the home states. one last question if you would. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't have that estimation but we're putting that together and we should have that by the time our list is finalized and confirmed. [ inaudible question ] >> it does not. excuse me, could you -- i'm not sure i understood that and i want to give you accurate information. [ inaudible question ] >> no, no.
we have 58 dead plus the shooter for a total of 59. >> when you release the list, are you going to post it online at the same time you -- [ inaudible ] >> this is the last question. i don't know, but that will be announced through one of these press conferences later today or most likely at some point. and that's all the questions i'm going to take. thank you very much for your time. [ inaudible question ] >> i can clarify the 59. we have confirmed 59 dead in our office, yes. 58 plus the shooter for a total of 59. and that is confirmed. okay? thank you very much. [ inaudible question ] >> i didn't call on you first, ken, but go ahead. >> is there another death somewhere else? we were told previously 59 plus one. >> we also told at you numbers
of dead and wounded will continue to fluctuate, so the answer the coroners provided you is the most recent relevant number we have. >> is there any indication he was planning something else a couple weeks beforehand in your investigation are you seeing that? >> no. i'm not prepared to speak about that, but that is part of our investigation. [ inaudible question ] -- are you ruling out any connection to terrorism or anything like that? >> we haven't absolutely ruled anything out in this investigation. listen, i'm not trying to be coy. but i can confirm to you we have not ruled anything out. >> i mentioned -- >> but i can also confirm we have not ruled that in. so we have a lot more questions than we have answers today. [ inaudible question ]
>> i understand that, we're well aware of that. >> can we get an update on any of the electronics -- >> i'll give that to you when we have it. it's not a simple process. it takes time. the fbi is working diligently on that for us. let me finish before you ask, all right? thank you. go ahead. >> do you have information whether the shooter trained himself to fire these weapons? did he visit gun ranges? how did he train himself to fire these? >> do we have any information that the suspect had trained himself in firearms? i'm aware that online reporting as well. we have not been able to confirm any of that information yet. >> is there a reason why the gunman stopped shooting? did he see officers outside? >> the investigation will obviously reveal that. i believe personally because the security guards approached to the room, obviously took his attention away and he fired at the security guard. and then the immediate police
response that followed on. >> tell me what you're hoping to learn from this family when investigators speak with her. [ inaudible ] >> great question, i can't reveal that because we don't know yet. we have a lot of questions, i can tell you that. [ inaudible question ] >> the question is can i give you the exact time that s.w.a.t. entered. i was hoping to provide that to you today. i'll provide that in the next briefing. there's a delay because he was not firing anymore. we treat the situation as a barricade at that point. [ inaudible ] i don't know what the time line was. i'm trying to verify that information about when s.w.a.t. actually made entry. >> who came to the door with the security guard? >> the s.w.a.t. team is not your normal s.w.a.t. team. it was made up of both s.w.a.t. officers, patrol officers, and a k-9 unit.
[ inaudible question ] >> i can't confirm that information now, but we've heard that same allegation. [ inaudible question ] >> the question is is ms. danley coming back to the country, and we're aware of some information, but not prepared to release that at this point in the investigation. >> is she in custody? >> can you at least confirm the reports that he wired $100,000 to an account in her name? >> can we confirm that $100,000 was wired to the philippines? the answer is no. we have financial subpoenas that the fbi has put out. remains an active part of our investigation.
we certainly want to know the answer to that question. >> can you confirm what time the security officer was shot that approached the door? >> you know, it's just moments prior to our initial officers responding up there, so we'll add that to the questions that we can answer again tomorrow. with that i'm going to say this to you. i apologize. i forgot to introduce the special agent in charge of the las vegas field office, aaron raus. just been such great partners with us throughout this investigation. as you know, we've been joined at the hip from the very beginning. i'd like you to make sure you pay attention to our elected officials from across this great state and here locally, the congressman and -- i'm sorry, the general was here, and of course, county commissioner chair steve sisilak. they've been instrumental in supporting our organization throughout this. and we need it. there's a lot more questions than there are answers, and we will provide those to you just
as soon as we can. thank you. >> you heard the latest from authorities including, you just saw police body cam video of gunfire erupting from above. you get a sense of the confusion as officers were trying to figure out exactly where the shots were coming from from the mandalay behind me. you heard about the bump fire slide stocks identified weapons in the hotel room. joining us is special agent james gagliano, and assistant secretary of homeland security. to me one of the interesting things is sort of the timeline breakdown. that the shots -- this guy was shooting for 9 to 11 minutes they say. which sort of the answers question about why they waited for s.w.a.t. team to come in order to breach the room because it was no longer -- he wasn't actually firing. then it was a barricade situation. >> right, anderson. active shooter situations
usually are interdicted within three to ten minutes. >> there has been a study since columbine and they say most deaths occur in the first ten minutes. >> and that was the big after action review of lessons learned after columbine. at that point, if you didn't have a homogenous s.w.a.t. immunity, a team that worked together, we've learned post-columbine is you can't do that. >> in columbine, they waited for s.w.a.t. and even then they wanted and some of the people like the teacher bled out after laying on the floor for four hours. >> and i have to give kudos to the las vegas police department and their sheriff's department. as a former fbi s.w.a.t. team leader, what happened with the initial assault, the first guys that got up there the only one 11 minutes, that probably took the attention of the shooter away from the two windows in his barricaded
situation, and that slowed him down. it goes from a hasty assault which is what they were doing to a deliberate assault as soon as he stops shooting because the only reason you would make an dynamic entry is this, first thing, stop more killing. second thing, if it's a hostage situation. we didn't believe there were hostages inside. the shoops had stopped. now you take a step barks put together a plan, you bring in folks that have explosive breaching capability. those doors are steel doors with steel frames. those are difficult to enter without explosives. >> what we don't know at this point is, thank goodness the shooter stopped, but why he chose to stop. there was the initial confrontation, he shot through the door at the security guard. the police were there, the first responders are there, but then we don't know why he didn't continue firing outside that window. >> what we know so far, we know he had weapons that are on bipods and they were positioned at two doors and he created the perfect death funnel down there.
the bump stocks that were used, they're after it was market products. they do not permanently modify the weapon. you jam the stick in and it keeps the bolt open so it continues to cycle. >> it is a work around. >> it is a workaround, absolutely. so in that situation, maybe there was a weapons malfunction. maybe because of the crazy sustained rate of fire. an m-4 can fire 750 to 900 rounds per minute. that heats the barrel up, possibly a jam. he possibly wanted to go back and forth. as people were panicking, not knowing where the shots were coming from, he moved to one side, funneled people back to this way, keep them in the kill zone. >> it's fascinating that this person, and we don't know what level of training he may have had, didn't seem to have a military record as far as i've heard. but had the presence of mind to
have cameras set up in the corridors, two cameras to see law enforcement coming. and also a camera in the peephole, by i guess allowed him to fire at the security guard through the door. >> that's exactly right. you know, since we don't know a motive yet, maybe to memorialize a moment of heroism however he in his mind views this, that he wanted to memorialize this act for himself or for the future. i have no doubt that we will eventually see some of those videos. we've already seen some of them. i wanted to say about the press conference, my two big takeaways, from the last hour, one, is they are back tracking a little bit on the girlfriend. remember, earlier today they said she was en route. the sheriff would not confirm that now. i have my focus on her and i don't know where she is and the $100,000 they would not confirm. whether $100,000 had been sent to her. we don't have official
verification that she's en route or she got this $100,000. the second thing is, of course, i want to get my numbers right. 47 firearms, 12 bump stock devices. bump stock devices, you heard the woman from the atf, she was sort of twisting and turning, trying to define what the pump stock device does and doesn't do. she says they don't mechanically alter the gun, therefore they're not illegal. even an atf person finds it hard to explain how they're used in any way except to alter the experience, therefore the impact of a semiautomatic to an automatic. while we're talking about the motive, we also need to really talk about these bump stock devices, 12 of them. how were they obtained, why were they obtained and why are they lawful on the market? not even the atf woman gave anything but i'd have to say a contorted explanation as to why they're legal.
i guess the definition is they don't mechanically alter the gun. that's not passing any straight face test at this stage, especially after the massacre. >> the idea that the initial team that is up there helped it change from an active shooter situation, he stopped firing out into the crowd, directed fire at the first responders, but then, according to authorities now, did not continue firing outside, which is why they were waiting for the s.w.a.t. team to arrive to actually breach it in the safest most professional way possible. >> that's exactly right because remember, there's communication probably ongoing at this time. while they're having him in a right position, in other words, he's not shooting at the stage, they don't know whether there's ied or something else set up or if they open the door the whole place will explode. they have no idea. so their situational awareness
is simply, we have now stopped the killing. remember, this is dynamic because down below as we saw in the video, the police are moving everyone out of what we've been calling this fish bowl. even if they only got five minutes, 20 minutes, 25 minutes, they are moving people out of the line of fire, so there's two things going on, both holding him in the hotel room and moving future victims or potential future victims out of the way. it sounds all right to me based on our experiences of other mass shootings at this stage. >> the undersheriff talked about how this killer built himself an armed bunker or gunner's nest in that room. james gagliano mentioned this as well. i want to bring in tom foreman who has been looking at this in a virtual studio. tom? >> we knew that he had this commanding view of the strip and the concert area over here from this 32nd floor of the mandalay bay. what is emerging is a picture of a man who built sort of a
fortress up here, and a trap for any police who tried to come and get him out of this suite. pretty big space up here. when we talk about the hallway, the funnel of death, that's what we're talking about here. one hallway approaching this area. that's where he had two cameras outside, one hidden on a room service cart in this hallway, the other one aiming out of a peephole in the door, right there to look right down the hallway. that's the only way police officers could have approached this room. and inside the room, what did he have? an arsenal. he had more than 20 guns, 12 of them set one these bump stocks that could fire like automatic weapons. remember, he's shooting 400, 500 yards. that's quite a distance out there. some of them had powerful scopes on them. he set up a receptacle to put
them inside, and he had a tremendous amount of ammunition. in this shot you can see some of the magazines stacked there. this is one of the windows he was shooting you have to here. so he used this hammer to smash out some windows. we go in the front door and you can see if you turn right, next to the pillar, that's where he smashed out a window, and he smashed out another one a little further down. from these positions, anderson, that's where he had this absolutely commanding view of everyone down below. as we were told now, he spent 9 to 11 minutes raining bullets down upon these people. anderson? >> sickening. tom, thanks very much for that. coming up, a couple married for 32 years. they were enjoying traveling during retirement, until this trip. his wife, his high school sweet
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heather and sonny melton's story. sonny saved heather's life but was fatally wounded. we want to tell you about denise and tony. they were enjoying a weekend here away from their home in west virginia. they had been married for 32 years. they were childhood sweethearts. i spoke with tony earlier today. >> tell me about denise. you were high school sweathearts. >> we were. we met in high school and married thereafter. been married 32 years. denise always had a smile on her face and she never met a stranger. you could be in a grocery store line and start talking you to or at a concert with 20, 30,000 people and she would be talking. >> making friends. >> absolutely. life of her surroundings. >> when did you know she was the one? >> in high school. >> really? that's incredible. >> and i have in 32 years it grew stronger every day. it just got better every day.
>> did you know right away that something was bad happening? some people we talked to thought it was pyrotechnics. >> exactly what i thought. we stood there affected and she asked me if it was gunfire. i told her no. it was during the second burst that we knew and started to leave, trying to get out of there. >> was getting out -- there was such pandemonium. >> i can't say -- i didn't see what people were talking about stomping on people. it wasn't a great deal of running. i was leading her through the crowd. i initially thought it was an attack from the ground from the back corner. i wasn't aware. i looked at the at the building and didn't see anything. if we had it would probably be a different route out of there. >> were you able to talk to her at the end? >> she was unconscious from the time she was struck.
>> what happens now? you live in west virginia. you're going to stay here until you know you can bring her home. >> she's on her way back home. i'll travel back and be with the rest of my family. two kids back there. she has four grandchildren and a fifth one on the way. so we'll get back there for them. >> i heard those grandkids were the light of her life? >> they were. we spent at least a month and a half with them each summer traveling. and going around with them. they enjoyed their g-ma. >> that's what they called her? g-ma? is there anything else you want people to know? i always think something like this, none of these people should be statistics. >> she was a professional banking most of her adult life. she decided she was done and got out of there and just last year became a full-time student going to college.
she was dedicated to that. in her free time i got to speak to her, but she was dedicated to it. i can't say enough. her smile and there wasn't a day that went by that if i was out of town or something, i'd get a selfie on her way to the gym or on her way to school. i would get a huge smile. if i didn't get it, i would text her back and she would send me one back with a smile. >> that's a blessing. >> out of this whole ordeal, i would like to mention the good samaritans during this. there was a gentleman that helped me move her back to a little bit safer area at that time, a young nurse was with me. she spent the remaining time with us to include a ride in the hospital in the back of a truck. >> that's how you got to the hospital, in a truck? >> yes. i just -- these people, i don't know their names. i'd like to thank them all.
also the crisis center here in town has been unbelievable in helping us get through this also. >> a lot of people would be amazed that you're standing and able to talk. >> i've had my good times and bad times. the emotional, maybe some good times, too, the good thoughts and the good times we've had, or maybe reflecting through some photos, flipping through my phone or tablet and seeing her. i'm going to miss her greatly and her family is going to miss her greatly. her friends will miss her greatly. >> i appreciate you talking to us about denise and letting us know what she was like. >> my pleasure. >> so sorry for your loss. >> i just wanted the world to know who she was. she was a great person. >> thank you. tony and bernice, married 32 years. we'll be right back. ♪ can i kick it?
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breaking stories to tell you about tonight. the details of the russian facebook ad. significant because for the first time, we're learning that a number of the ads were in terrifically in states with trump victory. what did you learn? >> reporter: that's right, anderson. michigan and wisconsin. these two states critical to donald trump's victory last november. sources tell my colleagues that the ads were intended for the most divisive messages, even anti-muslim messages. it is unclear until now, which weeks the country were targeted by the facebook ad. a large number did appear in areas that were not contested in the election.
others were public opinion in the most heavily contested battleground. president trump was saying there's basically nothing to see here, that russian interference in our election was speculation, that he was doubting some of the intelligence by our intelligence agencies, separate and apart from whether or not there was any collusion. we're not there yet with this. but the idea that this was being dismissed and now more and more evidence is sort of piling up based on this reporting. >> the congressional committees are seeking to determine if they were from associates and whether to target the ads. the president and senior white house officials have long insisted there was never any collusion. trump contended the matter is a hoax. these ads are parted of 3,000 congressional investigators by facebook this week. and those ads reached roughly 10
million people. we know did it not target the battleground states of michigan and wisconsin. there's no way of knowing if they swayed the vote. herely 4.8 million, a close mash margin in the country. trump winning there by just 22,700 votes. investigators have a lot more to determine about the impact that these ads had on the election. >> yeah. thanks very much. appreciate that. we go to steve haul, cnn expert on russia. and david. if anything, the trump campaign or any of the allies knew about the ads. >> right, anderson. that's the critical question,
that comes out of the story. were the agents that were working on behalf of russia, injected to meddle in the election. sophisticated enough to know where to target these messages in wisconsin and in michigan? or did they have help? someone who understood the analytics of the campaign have some way of helping those that were seeking to get the messaging out there? that's the central question that investigators are going to dig into for weeks to come now. >> steve, does it surprise you that the russians have enough expertise on u.s. politics to target specific messages? a lot of this is public information. >> it really doesn't surprise me at all. for the russians, they refer to us as the enemy. we are validation for a lot of
the things they do on the public side of things. the resources they throw at something about this is amazing. we probably can't wrap our mind about how much money this would go to. i think the american democracy should be infuriated that the russians are a hostile country to the united states, who try to do this in one of our elections. the only thing that would be more irritating is if they had help. we do not know yet. the only real question is whether they had help on the inside. >> president trump has said that every russian-related story line is a hoax. every story has some sort of asterisk on his victory.
none of the investigations have concluded yet. >> not at all. and not many of the investigations are suggesting that that's where this will go. into questioning the legitimacy of his election. but you're right, anderson. the president, time and again, not only has he not taken up the battle on being infuriated on behalf of the american public. you're right. he does not seem capable of separating out facts as they emerge, about this threat to our democracy from somebody calling into the legitimacy of his own election. he cannot separate those two things out. >> you know, steve, as russians watch this reporting, are they thinking, we got caught? or is it just -- business as usual?
>> there's probably the man on the street, that doesn't understand our system, how this was all rigged. but the russian population is extremely supportive of vladimir putin. and a lot depends on how he deals with the united states and the west. and specifically, whether or not he is being strong enough. whether he is being strict and stu stern enough so russia gets the respect it feels. those are what most russians and inside the kremlin are concerned about. are we being respected as a great power? these a popular guy, putin, with everyday russians who support his attempts to do what they did during e mexs. >> michigan and wisconsin, critical, part of the crumbling blue wall we talk about all the
time. if he were to have lost those two specific states, donald trump would have had enough electoral votes to be elected president of the united states. >> thanks for watching "360." time, now, for "early start. ." new details about the las vegas gunmen, as questions emerge about a gun mechanism that may have allowed him to fire so many shots. now, we can tell you his girlfriend is back in the country. what do investigators want to know? welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans in new york. it's 3:00 a.m. in the east. >> i'm dave briggs here, live in las vegas, just past midnight. it's wednesday, october 4th. we're just over 48 hours away from