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streak for the second day in a row. record, record. the dow, the nasdaq, the s&p 500 hit records, driven higher by airline and carmaker stocks. stocks fell for months, getting a boost from the hurricane. consumers are replacing their flood-damaged cars. that's how you see the big news now. new information about the las vegas gunman, how he planted cameras to watch police. how he altered his guns to fire so many shots and just hours ago, the killer's girlfriend landed at lax, now back in the country and talking to investigators. welcome to early start. i'm christine romans in new york where it's 4:00 a.m. in the east. >> i'm dave briggs live in las vegas where it's 1:00 a.m. local time. it's wednesday, october 4th. we're just over 48 hours after this deadly shooting and new
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this morning details about the las vegas shooter, stephen paddock. his large cache of weapons. his girlfriend back in the united states and newly released body cam video capturing the chaos as the attack unfolded. [ gun fire ] >> go that way, go that way. go that way. hey, they're shooting right at us. >> where is it at? >> north of the mandalay bay. >> police officials say the gunman appears to have fired on and off for between 9 and 11 minutes after the first 911 call. clark county sheriff said the shooter had cameras set up both inside and outside his hotel
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room here at the mandalay bay, cameras he may have been using to spot police and security approaching his room. officials say they do not think the shooter was broadcasting this video over the internet. even with the new details the shooter's motive remains a mystery. the death toll from the attack has been revised downward by one. officials say now 58 victims were killed. at least 517 injured remains the same. president trump flies here today to see how the city is responding to the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history. expected to visit the hospital, survivors, medical professionals, also a second stop where he's expected to meet with law enforcement officials and the sheriff. and a new twist in the las vegas investigation. the gunman's girlfriend initially a person of interest before being cleared once again a person of interest by
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authorities. marilou danley who was located in the philippines after the massacre unfolded back on american soil at this hour. her plane arriving late last night and we've been following that story as we hope that is where some of these answers lie as to why -- why the shooter may have committed this heinous crime. >> we're getting a little more information. our own nick robertson confirmed the plane landed los angeles time a little after 7:00 p.m. last night. the jet liner went from manila to los angeles accompanied with fbi agents. las vegas police may be actually going to los angeles to interview her, her not coming to las vegas right away. so we'll just have to see the developments there. we also understand homeland security apprised of all of this. nick robertson spoke with an
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immigration official there at the airport and he asked did she come vol untauroly. he may not know but he said i cannot answer that one way or the other. but we do know she was accompanied by fbi and it was interesting. we don't know when she left the mainland, but she didn't just go to the philippines. we know she was in japan, tokyo, and on the 15th of september flew to the philippines but then flew out of the philippines to hong kong. after that flying back to manila after that and then obviously now from manila to los angeles. as that situation unfolds there is also the primary investigation. and we are now seeing pictures of that room published by the daily mail. authorities have authenticated those pictures that they are the inside of the hotel room. they're not happy that those were leaked out in some form or fashion because these are crime scene photos. these are photos that are usually very confidential but we do see a mass ifrive amounts ofs
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in the room. this is shortly after it all ended on sunday night and that body that you saw in the picture, that was in fact, authorities say the gunman who died from a self-inflicted wound, learning just a little bit more about the chaos inside. they do say the crime scene processing of that room is going to take much longer. they're about finished with the concert venue which would be collecting spent bullets and shrapnel and anything else that would be evidentiary in nature, but the hotel room, the primary crime scene, that processing will take much longer, they say. >> and a photo even of the shooter's face we will not publish here on cnn but those are out there on the internet. thank you and now we turn our attention to all the weapons that were part of this massacre. among the dozens of guns found belonging to the shooter the federal atf says 12 of the guns
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in the shooter's hotel room had what are called bump fire stocks or bump stocks. >> what are the modifications associated with the weaponry? i can't give you an answer on whether any of them are automatic or not, but we are aware of a device called a bump stock, and that enables an individual to speed up the discharge of ammunition. >> now, a total of 47 guns have been found, purchased in four different states. on semiautomatic weapons the trigger has to be pulled each time a round is fired. an automatic the trigger can be pulled and held once to fire multiple rounds. there is a slight loophole, if they're federally registered and made prior to 1986. but it is legal to buy these tools like these bump stocks. up to hundreds of rounds per
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minute. gun reform advocates seizing on this latest revelation about t las vegas attack. one tweeting i'm looking at ways to proceed with registration to ban bump fire stocks and close this loophole for good. doing nothing in the wake of this tragedy is not an option. fine stein tried that back in 2015 after the sandy hook tragedy. the president said we will be talking about gun laws as time goes by. we should see what happens. i tried to purchase one of these bump fire stocks here in the las vegas area. there are gun shops all around the area. i visited two that confirmed to me they sold multiple weapons to the shooter, stephen paddock.
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they along with others that i called all said before i got the sentence out of my mouth, no, we do not sell bump fire stocks. the gun shop owners saying they're silly, they're something that their customers have no need for and do not request. sadly, these things are far too easily to obtain on the internet. just $99, and you can have one of these at your door. you would imagine this legislation, this loophole easy for legislators to step up and close. >> and the allure of firing so many bullets. i mean, you lose your accuracy. right? is it just because it's fun? >> it does. yeah, they do decrease your accuracy and one of the gun shop owners said, look, really, this is a strange word that he admitted he had used it was almost for entertainment for people to shoot out there at target practice, things like they would air on youtube, no real reason for people to use them. >> all right. certainly turned out to be
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incredibly deadly when this guy used them. so that shooting in las vegas likely to make hotels and other properties on the strip rethink security procedures. experts who spoke to cnn say there's little that can be done to prevent the kind of massacre we saw this week. we spoke with security experts in las vegas. he's monitoring the travel of the gunman's roommate marilou danley. what do they tell you because this guy got heavy weaponry right underneath the nose of all those cameras and all those people looking for suspicious behavior. >> reporter: he had a massive arsenal of guns inside his room. as we know now more than 20 of them, 12 of them had those bump stocks but the sheriff here in las vegas says he can't see a way that this crime could have been prevented. the expert that we spoke to, he agrees. this is a guy who spent more than 20 years at the fbi.
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7 years as head of the security of the venetian resort complex, but how does a guy get more than 20 guns up to his room without anybody batting an eyelash? turns out it's not that hard. there are security cameras but they're looking for things out of the ordinary and if stephen paddock wasn't doing anything odd then they might not have flagged him. also maids, they're not going to go through your bags. not going to unzip something that's zipped up or in the close set. but what about the number of bags that he had? there were a lot of them. we asked our expert about that. >> we know that the suspect brought in a lot of bags. would that raise any red flags with hotel staff or hotel security? >> the number of bags being brought in doesn't bring up a lot more suspicions. we have a lot of people coming in and we have conventionists bringing in bags for their ec s
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events and people just bring a lot of bags sometimes. >> reporter: many casinos are stepping up their plain clothes security. there may be hotels taking similar temporary measures but what about long-term changes? the expert we spoke to said there have been shootings in this country at malls. you don't see large change to security in light of those. you don't see x-ray machines and it's pretty unlikely that even after something like this, something so horrific happening, he can't see metal detectors or x-ray machines as you're going into hotel lobbies unless the public demands that hotels make changes like that. >> kbyeah, i visited a couple o hotels and you can see people walking in with enor rousmous as
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of luggage. it would not raise alarm bells to see people bringing in large amounts of luggage repeatedly. there was a do not disturb sign on the door, but they do not often go in a room unless it's under very unusual circumstances with security. as we continue here live in las vegas with all the new details emerging about the shooter, what do authorities want to ask his girlfriend now that she is back in the country? and the victims of this shooting will not be forgotten. loved ones mourning people from across the country, all lost in this horrific attack in las vegas. we continue to focus on them. building a website in under an hour is easy with gocentral...
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girlfriend arooifziriving overn. she is now a person of interest. cnn law enforcement specialist, steve moore, so glad to have you here with your expertise this morning. we're told there were federal officials on that flight with her. tell me presumably how this is going to go. she is back here at the behest of law enforcement. what are they going to ask her, what's going to happen here with this debriefing, do you think? >> well, first of all they're going to want to know why she left the country just before this killing happened. that seems like an awful big coincidence as does the fact that before he killed 59 people or 58 people her -- her boyfriend or husband, whatever it is, actually wired $100,000 to the philippines. they are also going to want to know, what did you know about
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this? were you even curious about him picking up 40 guns including bump stocks that will make the guns go fully automatic. >> what does that tell you about him as a -- as a murderer that he had so many guns and was using those bump stocks? where does that fit into i guess the profile of the kinds of characters you guys follow? >> you know, one of the things that i've seen just about every time we've had a mass shooting is that when we get to the people or when we get to their vehicles, we find an inordinate amount of weaponry, weapons that, many more than they would ever need. i can remember interviewing the guy who machine gunned a school in los angeles back in the late 90s and it was the day after he did it and i said, you walked into the school with this gun. what made you choose this gun
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over all the ones you had in the truck? he said, i didn't choose until i went in. there's just something strange about these people where they want to have a choice. they want to feel empowered they can do anything they want. >> empowered is something that's so interesting here. what is it about these emasculated men who have to gun up and then, you know, kill other people with just zero empathy. talk to me a little bit about the rigging the cameras and the people of the door, you know, and in the cart outside so he could watch police. what does that tell you about the premeditation here? >> well, it tells me obviously that he was fairly sophisticated and argues against the presumption of some that he just snapped, that he was a normal guy who just snapped. snapped is a one-time thing. this guy would have had to have snapped over a several month
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period. this took so much premeditation, so much planning, and they're going to find this. he wrote stuff down. he put stuff on his computer. it will show up. >> the body camera footage that we have is so fascinating from the law enforcement perspective. you can see these officers down there when this is happening essentially in the killing field there and you can hear them saying look, it's in mandalay bay, it's in this window where the shooter is. talk to us a little bit about what we've learned from this footage. >> well, you know, we're going to be dissecting this footage the way people have been dissecting the footage from the grassy knolls for different reasons. we're going to want to learn how in the future we can address something like this. because like on 9/12 of 2001 we woke up realizing that our old tactics and old protections won't work anymore and these type of films will help us learn
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how to address something like this in the future because i'm -- i'm sorry to tell you that once somebody does it once, somebody else is going to try it. >> yeah, i wanted to ask you about that. what about the copy cat factor here? law enforcement officials yesterday were saying every time they hear us in the media say the largest mass shooting in modern american history they cringe because there are sick minds with access to very dangerous weapons. >> we can't stop telling the truth on tv because some crazy person might be inspired by it. the truth is this. that the people who are the socio paths, these homicidal maniacs who want to kill, they want to go out at the top. they want to be the biggest killer and that's sad, but it can't be changed. >> all right. steve moore, cnn law enforcement
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contributor. retired special agent from the fbi. thank you so much for your expertise. and dave, you know, fascinating the number of people who have told us, you know, the profile of this guy, the number of guns, you know, what was it that he needed to build himself up for and what was he, you know, what was he so against to have zero empathy for those people? >> yeah, and hopefully there is a lot to steve's point that law enforcement officials, fbi, profilers can learn from this. the first time i was ever around a shooting was columbine, 1999. i spent a couple of weeks there as a student journalist and they learned a lot from columbine that has been used in shootings, that has been used even in this investigation so hopefully there is something to come out of this one. thank you, christine. when we continue here from las vegas, the president wheels up for vegas in less than four hours. hoping for a smoother trip than his stop in puerto rico where he
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suggested there was not a quote real catastrophe. >> and they were just enjoying the music when their lives were cut short, taken from their families far too soon. we continue to remember the victims of the las vegas massacre. hi, i'm the internet! you know what's difficult? adulting... hi, guys. i'm back. time to slay! no,i have a long time girlfriend. you know what's easy? building your website with godaddy. get your domain today and get a free trial of gocentral. build a better website in under an hour.
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>> i'm dave briggs back live in las vegas where the president is expected to arrive in about five hours. he paid a visit to puerto rico on tuesday where the death toll has more than doubled from 16 to 34. president trump's visit to the island tuesday not entirely smooth. the president getting briefed by federal and local officials and talking to locals in a damaged neighborhood. he also handed out emergency supplies in a church, shooting rolls of paper towels into the crowd, but the president raised
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a few eyebrows with comments on puerto rico's debt crisis and a bizarre comparison to another natural disaster. >> i hate to tell you, puerto rico, but you've thrown our budget a little out of whack because we've spent a lot of money on puerto rico and that's fine, we've saved a lot of lives. if you look at a real catastrophe like katrina and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here, what is your death count as of this moment? 17? >> 16. >> 16 people certified. 16 people versus in the thousands. you can be very proud. >> reporter: president trump's remarks not sitting well with san juan's mayor who called trump quote miscommunique torr in chief. the two have been at odds since the president tweeted about her poor leadership after cruz criticized the federal response
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there in puerto rico. the president also raising the idea of wiping out puerto rico's debt. we are going to work something out, we have to look at their whole debt structure. the white house releasing no further details but as we've talked about many times the president very familiar with debt and how to recover from these bankruptcies. >> and that's the most precise he's been about it. he talked about the debt, he said something's got to be done. we've got to make some big decisions but that debt is owned by bankers, by hedge funds, by american citizens who have it in their pension funds, right, so what is he going to do? he has been under crippling debt himself and has had a bailout. maybe he'll be a very good advisor on all of this. facebook russian ads targeted wisconsin during the election. that's according to four sources with direct knowledge of the
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matter. we know facebook admits selling 3,000 ads to russian troll farms. it was not clear which u.s. regions they targeted. now we know some ads were aimed at the battleground states of wisconsin and michigan. trump won both of those by less than 1%. they were key to his victory. the white house could not be reached for comment about this facebook story. the russian ads targeted key demographics with divisive topics like promoding gun rights or anti muslim messages. facebook says 10 million users saw those russia backed ads. the ad buy was just $100,000 proou proving how effective russian meddling can be with minimal investment. early start continues right now. new information this morning
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about the las vegas gunman. how he installed cameras to watch police. how he manipulated his guns to make them even more dangerous and while you were sleeping the killer's girlfriend back in the country, landing at lax. wait until you hear what her sisters are saying this morning. remarkable. welcome back to early start. i'm christine romans in new york. >> i'm dave briggs in las vegas. 31 minutes past the hour. 48 hours after the deadliest mass shooting in u.s. modern history. this morning, new details about las vegas shooter stephen paddock. his enormous cache of weapons, his extensive planning. his girlfriend back in the united states and in a new interview her sisters claim he sent her out of the country before the attack. more on that in a moment. we're also getting a first look on newly released body cam video capturing the chaos as this attack unfolded.
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[ gun fire ] >> go that way, go that way. go that way. hey, they're shooting right at us guys. everybody stay down. >> where is it at? >> it's coming out of a window. >> police officials say the gunman appeared to have fired on and off for between 9 and 11 minutes after the first 911 call. clark county sheriff joe lombardo said the shooter had cameras set up inside and outside his hotel room. one outside, two in the hall. cameras he may have been using to spot police and security approaching his room. officials say they don't think the shooter was broadcasting that video over the internet. even with the new details the shooter's motive really remains the mystery here. the death toll from the attack has been revised downward by
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one. officials now confirm 58 victims from the shooting. the number of injured, at least 527 remains the same. today president trump flies here to see for himself how this city is responding to the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history. he's expected to arrive at 9:30 a.m. local time, 12:30 p.m. eastern. two stops expected at this point, one at a hospital where he'll meet with survivors as well as medical professionals. also expected to visit with law enforcement officials as well including some heroes, some of those that saved lives at this shooting just over 48 hours ago. meanwhile the gunman's girlfriend once again considered a person of interest by authorities. marilou danley who was located in the philippines after and as the massacre unfolded back on american soil at this hour. her plane arrived at lax late
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last night. jeanne is here with us and that is where all eyes are. >> she was accompanied by fbi agents, homeland security have also been apprised. our own nick robertson asked an immigration official there in manila did she come on our own accord? the response was i can't confirm or deny that so we don't know the inner workings of this but we do know she's back in the united states, a philippines airlines jet liner landing at lax a little after 7:00 p.m. last night. las vegas municipal police authorities do want to interview her of course along with the fbi but they may go to los angeles. she may not come here to las vegas for some time. we'll have to see how this develops but they want in close in time to be able to talk to her and i'm sure the fbi has questioned her in the philippines, so there's a working knowledge probably from her in regard to all of this. and the fact is, she didn't stay
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in the philippines because we don't know when she left the mainland but she was in tokyo and then she went to the philippines and then to hong kong and then back to the philippines and now she's here. also $100,000 was wired by the perpetrator to the philippines. now, channel 7 in australia is reporting that her sister is saying that she was sent to australia to be -- to the philippines to be away from the united states. why? we don't know. but that it was an intentional act stephen paddock to get her out of this country and that is the local australian channel 7 saying they've spoken to her sister. >> new photos of the crime scene leaked. >> they didn't want to confirm or deny it was the crime scene but late in the later press
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conference they did confirm that it is the inside of that hotel room. you see the guns just randomly placed around the room. they did confirm that is the body of stephan paddock and you can see all of the weapons. you can see magazines that are neatly stacked apparently not used, but you can see the randomness of all the other guns just around the room and this is the aftermath shortly after this all ended. >> and one photo we will not show you on air that we've seen directly of the face of the shooter. >> the daily mail published these and the las vegas police department not happy about that. we're learning 47 guns found from stephen paddock, four different states where he purchased them. among the dozens that belonged to the shooter, well, the atf says 12 of the guns in the shooter's hotel room alone had what are called bump fire stocks or bump stocks. >> what are the modifications soes ya associated with the weaponry?
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i can't give you an answer on whether any of them are automatic or not, but we are aware of a device called a bump stock and that enables an individual to speed up the discharge of ammunition. >> thank you. on semiautomatic weapons the trigger has to be pulled each time a round is fired. on automatic weapons the trigger can be pulled and held once to fire multiple rounds. it's reported that you can fire hundreds of rounds per minute with these devices. automatic weapon sales are banned in the u.s. there is a loophole if they're made prior to 1986. it is possible to buy these bump stocks that do convert semiautomatic weapons to fire like automatic weapons. gun reform advocates seizing on this latest revelation about the las vegas attack. california senator fwetweeting,m looking at ways to ban bump fire
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stocks and close this loophole for good. doing nothing in the wake of this tragedy is not an option. she tried that legislation in 2013 after the deadly shooting in sandy hook elementary. the third ranking republican in the senate from south dakota, very much a gun state told nbc news, quote, that is something i think we'll look at regarding those devices that fully automated weapons. i went in search of a bump slide stock or whatever you want to call them here in the las vegas area. there are gun shops all around the strip. i visited two that confirmed to me they did sell weapons to stephen paddock. that is discount fire arms and ammo and the new frontier armory. both said no, we do not sell those stocks. we think they're silly. we think they're gimmicky. they are not something our customers request. i also called a dozen shops.
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all of them were quick to say no, we do not sell them although one said prior to yesterday, they sold them through their website. there really is no reason for them, christine. some even say they're just for entertainment, they reduce accuracy. this seems like a very easy loophole for legislators to close. >> but you mentioned sandy hook. one would have thought there was action after 6 and 7-year-olds gunned down and killed. i mean, that was horrific and nothing happened. >> well, you bring that up, and a lot of people were calling for background checks in the wake of sandy hook too but stephen paddock passed all of these fbi background checks. i spoke with gun shop owners that spoke directly to him and saw nothing out of the ordinary. >> all right. thanks for that. you know, the las vegas shooting likely to make hotels and other properties on the strip rethink their security procedures but experts who spoke to cnn say
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really there's little that can be done to prevent the kind of massacre we saw this week. we spoke with security experts in las vegas. what are they telling you, security experts? >> reporter: so first off we know that many las vegas casinos will be ramping up their plain clothes security efforts in the wake of this tragedy. many hotels may be following suit but the reality is there may not be that much they can do to prevent something like this happening in the future. that is according to the sheriff here in las vegas and also according to a security expert i spoke to. a guy who had more than 20 years at the fbi. certa seven years of experience atz the venetian resort. a complex that has some complicated security arrangements as well. he says that -- this expert says sure, there were security cam a cameras in the hotel but they're
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looking for things outs of the ordinary, so if stephen paddock wasn't caught on these cameras doing something odd, he wasn't flagged. he had a lot of bags but a lot of people have a lot of bags especially if you're in town for a trade show, maybe you have a lot of equipment. that may not have raised red flags but the reality is there were hotel staff inside paddock's room prior to this shooting. they said they didn't think anything amiss. why is that? well, we asked the expert. here's what he said. >> hotel staff in the case of this suspect actually was in the room prior to the shooting. they didn't see anything out of the ordinary or they generally trained to look for things like that? >> a lot of the staff are trained. actually unlv of security studies created video for maids, front desk people, valet people concerning what to look for, suspicious ak tictivity like th.
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>> what kind of activity? >> not the normal clothing type thing, anything that looks peculiar. >> are you surprised they didn't notice anything in this case? >> if you have everything in a bag, if you have everything packed up you're not going to notice anything like that. they don't go through the bags of anybody now. >> now, if you're expecting widespread long-term changes to security, the security setup at hotels, don't hold your breath. the expert says look, there have been shootings at shopping malls in this country and you don't see metal detectors for bags atz the entrance. so he says it would be unlikely for hotels to install that kind of security in the lobbies of these buildings in light of this. it's just unlikely and it's unfeasible unless of course the public absolutely demands that hotels do it, dave. >> right.
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we're also hearing from the new york times that there was a do not disturb time on his door throughout his entire stay here at the mandalay bay but that is nothing unusual either. you see that all the time here in vegas because people carry such odd hours. they figure it's easier not to have their room cleaned at all and they only go in those rooms under very unusual circumstances and with security. scott, thank you. as we continue here in las vegas, all the signs show the las vegas gunman planned his attack meticulously, yet still no reason as to why. could his girlfriend hold the answers now that she's back in the united states? [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing,
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new evidence this morning of meticulous planning by the las vegas gunman. he set up cameras inside his hotel suite and also in the hallway and big questions about how to keep big venues safe. i want to bring in a former secret service agent who served during the obama administration. when you look at the details that are emerging about this event, how could it be prevented or is this just not preventable? >> listen, i mean, i think this is the struggle right now. in the wake of this tragedy, you know, everyone is looking for one, the motive of the shooter and two, how can we prevent this from happening again. unfortunately there's no simple clear answer to either one of those. you know, for the motive, what we're going to see is over time as more and more comes out about
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the shooter we're going to see little bits and pieces of preattack behavior that were present, combined that's going to start painting a different picture, but how do you prevent this type of attack? listen, the venue itself and the security program at the venue was -- did everything correct. i mean, they had perimeters set up, they had bag checks. they had airport style metal detector screening, they had first aid on site. they had an appropriate level of security. so from that standpoint they did everything right. again, you know, trying to predict this type of vulnerability is very difficult. outside of you know, what i used to do with the secret service. so again, it's, you know, something that has to be looked at, but it's more about how do you respond to an incident that could occur that's outside the norm. >> you know, a sniper sort of cowardly behind the glass at 32
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stories high, that's a new method. i mean, that is sort of a game changer. we talked to law enforcement the past two days and everything from times square to parades in chicago to events in seattle and big cities on the west coast they're saying we have to rethink kind of the possibilities, the worst case scenarios here. >> well, you know, for years department of homeland security and law enforcement agencies have been talking about active shooter situations and what do you do? they boiled it down to the three actions. run, hide and fight. right? but i think we've heard that. i have spoken about that extensively. however, this situation actually changes that, because run, hide fight was based off of a horizontal plane. the shooter is at equal height to you. now we're talking about elevated shooting positions. we just saw the devastation that that can -- that that can cause, so now law enforcement dhs
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collectively are going to have to come up with a different type of teaching mechanism so have people respond. at the end of the day, this is about situational awareness for an individual. in the event that something does happen, what is your action going to be in a shooting situation, a medical situation or a relocation situation? that's a personal safety ethos that everyone has to start thinking about. unfortunately the world that we live in, as we see, dictates that. >> i don't know how i would have reacted honestly if i were in that crowd. when i've listened to so many of these survivors and friends of victims and they talk about, you know, someone jumping on top of them or they talk about hiding under, you know, bleachers or -- i really don't know how i would have reacted and i can honestly say of those 22,000 people a lot of people reacted in different ways, but jonathan, it was
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indiscriminate. that killer was vomiting bullets with no precision into as one newspaper called it a kill box. i'm not sure what the appropriate reaction should have been. what would you have done? >> well, listen, there's, you know, every situation is going to be different. your actions are going to be situationally dependent to that moment, but the key is to have some sort of plan. have some sort of course of action that you're going to instantaneously react. listen, sometimes standing still is not the best thing, but you need to be thinking about what your next movement is going to be. i'm going to try to run and get as far away as possible from the shooter, however, you know, in this instance, what we saw at the -- in the infancy of the situation was that people didn't understand where the shooter was coming from. people were looking around. again, on a horizontal plane. they weren't necessarily looking up. so once -- once they side identify where the threat was
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coming from people did disperse and did the right thing, but it's having this mind set and a will to survive no matter what the circumstances are. >> it's sad we have to think about that whether it's a car mowing you down, all of the different things that dominate the headlines. thank you so much for joining us this morning. nice to see you. >> thank you very much. >> christine, the president wheels up for here in las vegas just over three hours from now. he's hoping for a smoother trip than his stop in puerto rico where he suggested it was not a quote, real ka to ro fcatastrop. we'll explain. building a website in under an hour is easy with gocentral...
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president trump wheels up for vegas in less than three hours, a day after his visit to puerto rico where the death toll there jumped from 34 to 16. he stayed in an affluent san juan neighborhood. he handed out emergency supplies at a church, at one point tossing rolls of paper towels into the crowd. the president made headlines when he told hurricane victims they were a drain on the federal budget and made a bizarre comparison to another nch rale disaster. >> i hate to tell you but you've
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thrown our budget out of whack. we've spent a lot of money on puerto rico and that's fine. we've saved a lot of lives. if you look at a real catastrophe like katrina and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds of people that died and you look at what happened here, what is your death count as of this moment, 17? >> 16. >> 16 people certified. 16 people versus in the thousands. you can be very proud. >> of course now the death toll is 34. there are grave concerns about people who need dialysis and insulin who have not had those important medications for days now. those remarks led the san juan mayor to call trump miscommunicator in chief. the president tweeted about her poor leadership after cruz criticized the federal response. if president also raising the idea of wiping out puerto rico's debt. he tells fox news we're going to work something out. we have to look at their whole
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debt structure. the white house releasing no further details. just about the top of the hour. "early start" continues right now. brand new information about the las vegas gunman, how he planted cameras to watch police. how he altered his guns to fire so many shots. just hours ago the killer's girlfriend landed at lax now back in the country and her sisters with some stunning refz lags about w l -- revelations about why she was overseas. it's 5:00 a.m. here in the east. >> i'm dave briggs live in las vegas where it is 2:00 a.m. on wednesday october 4th. we're just over 48 hours from the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history. this morning new details about las vegas shooter stephen paddock. his enormous cache of weapons. his girlfriend now back in the united states and in a new interview.

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