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tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  October 4, 2017 5:00pm-6:00pm PDT

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>> could you address the main headline of this story that you called the president a moron. if not where do you think these reports -- >> i'm not going to deal with petty stuff like that. this is what i don't understand about washington, again, i'm not from this place, but the places i come from we don't deal with that kind of petty nonsense. >> i'm very honored by his comment i have total confidence in rex. >> so the president appearing to forgive tillerson there. this relationship already at a low but he can't already get rid of tillerson at this point after a wave of firing and recess nation particularly after tom price resigned last friday. >> alex thank you very much. thanks to all of you, "ac 360" starts now. good evening, at the end of another day of big developments here in las vegas, we are expected to learn more about the
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worst mass shooting in modern history. we learned a lot at the press conference last night, we hope to learn a lot more tonight as well. visited by president trump today, of course also tonight there was a questioning by the fbi of the killer's girlfriend whose now back in the united states and more. with all of that, the killer as always we are not naming remains a mystery. as we wait for press conference i want to talk to martin about the investigation. martin, a statement by the girlfriend of this killer through her attorney. >> reporter: so much has been anticipated as to what she might say, and tell the authorities and the public about what may have motivated this horrible tragedy. she says in a statement she was just as shocked, his or her tied and surprised as everyone else. she joins a long list of people who say there were no red flags, no indication, no warning sign
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that he was going to do what he did. she also -- >> let's go to the press conference, martin. >> sure. >> thank you for being courteous with the mics at this time. good evening, obviously i'm sheriff joon with clarke county. this will be one of the press coverages we'll be providing. so the see consequence of these events tonight, i will provide you some -- could we get some help back there? i will provide you a sequence of some updates of the investigation as we have moved forward since the last time we spoke to you. any specifics or any continuous or any global investigate leads that you need to be aware of.
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special agent aaron rous will provide that information associated with that, okay. and consentsubsequently i will to the podium with some q & a. and then the commissioner is available if you have questions of the commissioner. and we have dean healther who wishes to address the audience also. so, president trump, i think he was in town today. yes, he was in town. the reason why i bring up president trump has nothing to do in fact with president trump but has to do with the police department. there was some concern, because of his visit that investigations associated with this case would be delayed or hindered and i'm here to assure you none of that
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occurred. it was a separation of personnel that associated with responders at the harvest festival event that took the opportunity to meet with mr. trump and he had the opportunity to congratulate them from their heroic acts. investigators that are direct lid related to this investigation in my department and the fbi were not part of that. so i want everyone assured there was no hind rus in the investigation. return of property, there's a lot of questions going on with that. i wish i could provide you answers with that. we will try to post on lvn as soon as we can advise victims of when they can receive their personal property. the best of my understanding of
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where we're at, we're looking at four to five days. so, i know that sounds troublesome but it's important that we dot the i's and cross the t's as far as evidentiary and possible prosecution if the future. injuries, injury number that we are using today, 489. of that 489, 317 has been discharged from the hospital. so the question is, sheriff, you provided several different numbers associated with that all the way up to 527. now, you got to imagine, we're dispersed across several hospitals, relying on intelligent communication of the hospitals to provide us accurate numbers so that's ever changing. in addition hospitals received patients outside of this event. so quite often, or hopefully not quite often, but often some of those patients were double counted or misconstrued as event
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injuries versus other injuries such as car accidents. so today i'm comfortable in saying the injured number is 489. deaths still remain at 59. i told you 59 before, plus one, about suspect, that changed. today it's 58, plus one, the suspect, 59. it's the same reason that occurred before as i explained. so hope you understand that. nobody wants that number to go up, and by the grace of god it went down. so, that's a good thing. so, today i'll provide you updates on our investigation of the mass shootings. more than 100 investigators spent the last 72 hours combing through the life of 64-year-old stephen paddock. to produce a profile on someone aisle call disturbed and
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dangerous. stephen paddock is a man who spent decades requiring weapons and ammo and lived a secret life, much of cll never be fully understood. and planned on the worst massive attack in united states history. as many reported paddock rented a room at the hotel in downtown las vegas, this has been confirmed. okay. reasons that ran through paddock's mind is unknown but it was directly during -- as life is beautiful. we have received and recovered evidence from that location, we don't know if it is evidence but we have recovered items in video evidence. you know what, i'm using the wrong term, evidence is not the term, we have recovered video from there to review mr. paddock's actions while he was there. it's important for you to
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understand, the rooms were not rented by the ogden, it was done through airbnb by a private owner unknown to the ogden. so, we have very great cooperation from the owners of life is beautiful, and the ogden and their cooperation. okay, while we have already spoken many people had tact with stephen pad docs at hotels and places he frequented in, we still have more interviews to conduct. since monday, there have been many questions for us to release a timeline and today we have one. i want to point out the information previously reported on the first shot was based on a cad report, a computer aided dispatch. so that report is dependant on whose the particular person calling in and that time stamp. what we have done through the
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review of body-worn cameras we were able to pull it back to previously from 10:08 to 10:05. so carlos, so i'm going to give you a cans to review that, take photographs of it, and i'll walk you through each timeline. so, at 10:05 the first shots fired by the suspect this was seen on close circuit television from the concert venue. 10:12 first two officers arrived on the first floor and reported fire coming from directly above them. 10:13 shots fired by the suspect on body worn camera. 10:17 the first two officers arrived on the second floor. 10:18 squaurt officer tells the offers he was shot and given exact location of the suspect's
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room. now you'll notice a minute, delta there before they broadcasts and obviously they were in a conversation with the security guard immediately upon them meeting at the elevators. between 10:26 and 10:30 eight additional officers arrived on the 32nd floor clearing the hall ways and look for individual people. they moved this way because they no longer heard active gun shots. 10:55 eight officers arrived in the stair well-at the opposite end of the hallway near the suspect's room. so near the suspect's room you can imagine the hotel room, this doorway and stairwell pretty two to 3 feet away. 11:20 the breach was set off and officers entered the suspect's room and saw the suspect down.
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so it's a suite. and we have -- there's a main area of the suite which is the living room, kitchen dine net area and on the opposite end of that, two bedrooms. i'm sorry where did i leave off? something yell it out. >> 11:20. >> okay so if you do the math on that all the way up to is 1:20 from 10:05 we're looking at 75 minutes. so, young lady here in the front with the red phone, you mentioned 72 minutes so now you see where those minutes came from. 11:27 the second breach set off allowing offices to access the second room and no one else was located within the hotel room. okay, these are following ex tin waiting circumstances as to why we may have appeared, there was some delay or some undue delay
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in reaching the suspect. the officer in the first strike team reached the 32nd floor within 12 minutes which is phenomenal of the first shots being fired. with the officer rived and confirmed the location of the suspect's room the gunfire stopped. in accordance with their training the officers received a master key card from the security guard and began to clear each hotel room. so imagine the elevated bank in the center, 150 feet down on a try plex hotel was the suspect's room. so there are several rooms along the way. no fire was occurring, they could not hear additional fire, they believe it was important to evacuate in case the suspect was barricaded. the first strike team did this. the second team made up of two cay canine personnel squat
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offers and patrol officers carrying large bags and technical equipment and carrying rifles ford to have a closer location to the suspect's room. they attempted to secure the front doorway of the suspect's room. as they entered into the hallway they received the room service card and appeared on the room service card were cameras. so, they pulled back and waited for the approach of a full swat team. keep in mind, this delay was not undue, it was purposeful and no shots were being heard by the suspect at this point. eventually a plan was formulated, entry was made. suspect was seen laying on the ground. they encountered a closed bedroom door, which was locked and they breached that door,
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additionally found no other suspect. another investigate issue was cameras. question was presented by cameras and were they recording. we determined none of the cameras were recording. there were two cameras on the room service cart on the hallway, one on the peephole of the front door and additionally there was a baby monitor camera placed in the general family area of the hotel room. none of them were being recorded. one thing i left out was the initial approach and they looked out in the hallway when they observed the cameras on the room service cart. it was obviously there were several rounds discharged through the door and through the blast of the bullets through the door, you could actually see a weapon through those openings if the door but no suspect was seen. those rounds were the rounds that he put through the door in order to shoot at the security
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guard. okay, the other thing i wanted to update you on is the search warrant of the suspect's vehicle located at the mandalay bay. i have presented that plaintiffs ammonium nitrate recovered but several cases within the car that had not been searched yet. at the last briefing i provided with you. so within those cases there was ten, one pound containers of tahn rite, two pounds of tan rite and twl 1600 rounds of ammunition. so, carlos can you put up the numbers. so this is an ongoing investigation, we can never not have enough information because we are continuing to run down
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leads. it's important for us to get all the information we can on mr. paddock. because right now we're trying to prove his intent. our understanding of his intent and the history associated with this and whether or not he has any accomplices. so, we ask people to still call into 311, if you're out of state 702-8311. and the fbi and that is ininvestigate and for also electronic media. if you're able to call them they'll provide you the ability to download that online into their system. so at this point, i will provide you essential agent in charge, aaron rous and he will walk you through some of the investigate steps we have accomplished jointly and we'll react in that total investigation. subsequent that i'll come back to this podium for any q & a and
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we'll have the commissioner and dean make comments. thank you. >> thank you sheriff. my name is aaron rous, i'm the special agent in charge of the las vegas division of the fbi. before i begin i want to comment that on behalf of all the fbi, specifically the las vegas division or sympathy goads out to all of the families affected by this tragedy. this is our community, it's our community too, we live here and we will get through this together. the fbi has had a great partnership and continues to have a great partnership with las vegas police department as well as other state and local officials. to say this investigation will take a while is not surprising, so there's a lot of information that's going to change over time as we determine more facts but this is what i can tell you. our resolve is firm. we will get to the bottom of this, no matter how long it takes. the fbi has deemployeed over 100
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personnel from across the nation to assist the las vegas division in this investigation. this includes witness assistance, the aep counsellors, evidence technicians and technical assets. not to mention additional agencies to help cover leads. the information the public will provide discuss going to help solve this. we must focus on facts, we cannot give into conjecture and we cannot respond to every little twitter feed that may indicate a theory. we need to focus on the fact, you need us and expect us to be right and we want to be right. there's going to be questions, i'm sure goiyou're going to hav questions about people we've been talking to, maybe people outside of the united states. the fundamental trust of the american people and the fbi is based upon our discretion, and how good would that discretion
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be if we were to provide information that they provided to us in confidence. this is about informing on an investigation, this is about resolving an investigation, so spevgs regarding any individual contact cannot be answered. you need us, you trust us, and the way we have that trust is by using good discretion about what we share. additionally, we have multiple leads on across the united states and all across the world for our legal industries determining the whereabouts of the panel of the people involved in this investigation, and that leads grows. a lot of these leads will go nowhere but we have to follow them, and that'll take some time. patience are going to be needed from all of us. we're all interested in the same thing, resolving this issue fairly and factually.
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with that, i'll turn it back over to the sheriff. >> okay, happy to answer questions. and please provide some decorum. >> sheriff. >> yes, sir. >> we know you have an opportunity to -- we know that -- we know that you had access to his computers, symphonies a symphony cell phones and so forth. while you're not able to tell us specifically what you found. let me ask a ygeneral question. through all that information, is there anything that gives you a sense as to what was going on with this man? without saying what it is. are you seeing anything that gives you a direction or any kind of an answer to that question? >> globally no. i'm sorry to report, no. me personally, but i'm not privy
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to the subsequent interviews that were conducted today. fbi is not ready to disclose for public concern what was in those interviews just yet. yes, sir. >> the attorney during course of her time with the suspect that she never saw or heard anything that suggested he would carry out an act like this. you also said you are looking for other people associated with the information specifically that there was a woman that you're looking for to talk to that may have been associated with the suspect. is that -- you also said -- >> are you giving me a chance to answer? >> can you start from the beginning? >> i'm sorry sir. it's a question about the comments to the lawyer she had no idea what was going on. >> i think any person that was put in her situation would probably answer the same way. like i said, we're not privy to investigate leads that were
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obtained to today. mr. rous could probably give you better clarification to that, i haven't been briefed by the fbi on that interview as of yet. what was the other question sir? >> you said you're still trying to figure out whether he had any accomplices. >> right. we're obviously going through that. it's troublesome this individual was able to move this amount of gear into a hotel room unassisted. it's troublesome for the amount of stuff he had at both residences unassisted. there's people that know this individual, there's people that can help us understand this individual, because, you know, interesting enough i read a periodical earlier today, it was an fbi profiler that didn't understand this individual. usually there's telltale signs associated with these type of actions, reclusive, a plethora
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of thing associated with this mind set and we have not found that yet. so what could be more brshl than to fine people who are associated with him either by friendship or accomplice and for us to determine that. >> thank you. >> sheriff. >> yes, sir. >> two questions. first you mention in your comments he had a secret life. what do you mind by that? >> well, most of us -- not most of us, i don't, i don't live through social plead ya. there's a lot of us that live through social media in today's world. there's a lot of people that are interactive in the public, there's a lot of people that have workweeks. this individual was retired. he found out he had real estate investments, relationship wise it's hard to determine what has occurred if his life in the last decade or so. we do know he has an ex-wife. she didn't lead us to any knowledge. everybody knows we talked to his brother, no knowledge was
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obtained. so anything that would indicate this individual's trigger point, and that would cause him to do such harm, we haven't understood it yet. i think it's important for us to get to there. and you have to be patient with us because this premeditation of this, this is well-thought out. so don't you think the concealment of his history and life was well-thought out? it's becoming upon us as professionals to figure that out. >> and then besides what he did, that his or her risk act, are there any other signs of a mental break down? >> i'm not aware. i personally have not been briefed on some of these personal background, i'm leaving that to the experts. i haven't been updated on that yet. so, it's going to be frustrating for you observeviously, but you
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to remember, i've said it 100 times, this is an investigation and we can't be delayed by providing information that will delay our information or causing an individual to go underground. you know all that, everybody here sitting know that, and i need you to understand. okay, it's important for you to convey to the public we're doing everything we can do to bring this to fruition. i think we are doing that and i ask you for your patience. >> sheriff within the course of your investigation you discovered perhaps he might have been targeting another concert the week before? >> yeah i mentioned he had obtained a room at the ogden which is located downtown and at the same time life is beautiful was being conducted. was he doing presurveillance we don't know yet, this is all conjecture at this point. that's why it's important for us to have boots on the ground. >> sheriff, on the shatairwell
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there's information out there the door to the stairwell of the 32nd floor was barricaded or possibly welded shut. can you tell us if it was -- >> it was not welded shut but it was secured. >> sheriff can you tell us -- >> as of yet no. we haven't been able to determine if there's been anybody else in that room besides him. >> tan rite in the car does that lead to he might have been planning a bigger attack? >> speculation, i'll leave that to your own free will. it remained in the car for some reason. >> is there an estimate of how many round he fired and how many rounds he didn't fire found in the room? >> no. i'll give you my personal preview, that'll come out in the public space, no. rounds haven't been counted yet. there's a lot of evidentiary
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recover systems that have been taken place prior to recovery in the round. there was well in excess thousands of rounds in the room. >> sheriff, in the photos there was appeared to be a yellow note. can you tell us about that? >> no, i can't recall. >> a suicide note or anything? >> no no it wasn't. i'm comfortable in saying that. >> sheriff, where is -- now and is he still a person of interest. >> everything to do with marilou i'll have sergeant rous address that. okay any more questions on that, we can circle back on that? >> -- >> we'll circle back on that. you guys want to know how i know her name? she was eating lunch to me yesterday and introduced herself. >> sheriff, do you know what
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caused the inception? >> very good question, no i do not know. i don't know if -- this is my assumption, only my assumption and phone's been able to spell my assumption as of today, i believe because of his counter measur measures placed in the peephole and the hallway he observed the security guard and he was if fear he was about to be breached. he was doing everything possible to see how he could escape at this point. his concern was personal concerns versus what was occurring down below. >> can you talk to about what time he shot himself and can you tell us when -- >> you know i can't answer that question. that's the question that's been presented and we haven't been through the internal investigation of that to pinpoint exactly if it was heard wen he shot himself or did it occur in close proximity of entry. because you imagine when they
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breach it had door they used explosive devices, so did it occur in proximity of that explosive device and we lost it in audible or did it occur when we were trying to set up our team in the hallway. >> do you have a security guard separated from the other officers? >> it was my understanding he had gotten separated -- that was inaccurate. he was conducting an investigation based on customers calling in and he was personally attempting to locate what was occurring. he happened upon that doorway because it was ajar, which keyed his interest. but our officers from close proximity saw, as you can imagine the timeline there. as soon as they came out of the doorway in the elevator he was there, so it happened in a matter of seconds. hold on let me finish here. >> can you tell if there was a note -- >> what note the yellow paper.
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>> yes? >> i don't know. i did a cursory review of the room but i haven't been provided that information. i know it was not a suicide note. >> sheriff -- >> yes, sir. >> do you believe le saw the security guard approaching and it caused him to stop shooting. if he haven't seen the security guard approaching do you believe he would have shop shooting? >> no. and i'm comfortable and n saying that. we had knowledge he was between 31 and 32, remember when you asked before we said 29 and 32, and through that time it got called down to 31, 32, a knowledgeable customer, prior military said it was occurring directly above him, which subsequently the officers were doing their own checks, he was not aware of what that customer said and they were conducting he was trying to pinpoint.
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so our officer learned, because they had a security guard attached to them that they had recent information the individual was on 32. okay, so they would have encountered him shortly in that timeline, maybe 60 seconds. and i would assume the same thing would have occurred. >> sheriff we asked about you wen he stopped firing and why. [ inaudible question ] based on the assessment of the weapons he was there and using and access to, are any of these weapons jammed or inoperable or could he was continued firing without any possibles if he had not -- >> he could have continued firing. some of them were jammed but he could have continued firing. >> some were jammed how many? >> i don't know the number by some. he had plenty of fire power. >> do you havefully idea
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again -- >> if you recall there were 23 weapons recovered. >> one last question on the weapons. this guy had a -- and about 500, 800 yards -- how many of these weapons he was using firing with advance optics on -- >> just from my visual preview of the crime scene i saw at least three scopes. most of them didn't have any. sfla snauk. [ inaudible question ] >> no from what i know they seemed to be regular scopes. >> sheriff was the security officers armed. >> i don't know about the mandalay bay, some are armed some are not. i don't know the profile at the
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mandalay but i don't know if he was armed. his bravery was amazing because he remained with our officers providing them the key pass to access the door and continued to help them clear rooms until our officer demanded he seek medical attention. >> while injured? >> yes. >> sheriff, before the shooting we've heard someone say gambling, do you know? >> we are aware he was gamble. >> for hours? >> i don't know but we are aware he was gamble. >> sergeant -- >> so reference, let me provide some clarification because t answer one of the other questions on accomplice. we did see he was gambling but we didn't see any other individual that appeared to be with him. >> what about was that? >> i don't recall ma'am. >> sheriff, are you looking into the possibility that there mav some kind of a mentally issue,
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something that happened in october of 2016 that compelled him to purchase those weapons if. >> yes. >> you are? >> yes. >> what have you uncovered? >> i haven't i don't have the information. but we are looking. >> you suggested that after he saw the security guard his concern became himself, did you see any evidence that he planned to survive this or try to escape? >> yes. >> what's that? >> i can't tell you. >> sir, just to clarify, the security guards and the officers came up that identified his location -- >> i'm sorry start over. >> the security guard or your officers arriving that positively identified the location first? >> it was the security guard. the officers had knowledge that it was on the 323 nd floor. it assumed it was at the end of the hallway because a customer called it was directly above
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lim. the security guard confirmed it prior to their arrival. >> can you say in detail the magnitude of the gunfire he encountered -- >> well over 200 rounds. >> sheriff can you -- >> so it's amazing that that security guard didn't sustain additional injury. >> sheriff you excellented you believe you had a plan -- what have you determined that could have given you -- elscape line - >> that's just a different way of asking the same question. i can't answer that for you. >> sheriff did the officers fire back at all. >> no. >> slheriff you mentioned accomplices. we've talked previously about a person of interest. are there any other person of interest in this investigation? >> well, is there any other no. concrete, no. we're looking at it this way,
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ken, is there another one, no. we're determined to find out if there was. i mean, it's important not to close this case until we run down everything. >> should we ask the terrorist question -- >> because look at this. you look at the weapon obtaining the different amounts of tannerite available, do you think this was all accomplished on his own, face value? you got to make the asubject he had to have help at some point, and we want to ensure that's the answer. maybe he's a super guy, super hero -- not a hero, super -- i won't use the word. maybe she's super -- that was working out this out on his own but it will be hard for me to believe that. >> and to that do we need to ask -- >> here's the reason why, put one and oning to, two and two
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together, another residence in reno with firearms, okay, electronics and everything else associated with larger amounts of ammo, a place in mesquite, we know he had a girlfriend. do you think this is all self-facing individual without talking to somebody, it was sequestered amongst himself. come on focus folks these type of investigations have been occurring in the last few years and we have to investigate that. so hold off, i'm down. what i want you to do is give rous an opportunity to talk about marilou, he may not have anything for you but i think it's fair to ask him and then i'd like to get to the senator and commission ner. >> the car was. [ inaudible question ] >> i'm sorry? >> was the car planted to -- >> don't ask me to make assumptions, please.
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>> thank you. >> ken. >> you were asking where is marilou now and is she still a person of interest in this investigation? >> as i mentioned in my comments, you know, people rely on our us for discretion. if someone is assisting us in an investigation and being cooperative, that's between us and them. giving away the location of a citizen or somebody that is cooperating with us, is not in our best interest, not in that person's best interest, so there's a matter of their business, i'm not going to excellent on that. >> she's not in federal custody? >> we have no one in custody. >> special agent rous. if i can ask the same question, without saying anything specific, in seeing his computers and speaking to marilou, do you havefully direction or any sense as to
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what may have been a motivate? any sense, anything? >> so, as i mentioned we like to deal with facts. theer ryes are great, but i like to deal with facts. that's what we're going to focus on. there are a number of working theories out there and we're going to use those but not publicize them because they're not fair to everybody. we want to make sure what we have is accurate and you want us to be accurate. >> sir -- >> we have found no evidence to this point to indicate terrorism. but this is an ongoing investigation, we're going to continue to look at all avenues. we're not closing downy doors. the best way to do an investigation is that you don't go in with assumptions, he's not going to make assumptions, i'm not going to make any assumptions. we're going in there following
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the facts, the facts will always lead you to your conclusion. we hope very much so to be able to provide concrete information to the public about why this happened, because that's what's on everyone's mind. to understand the why helps you deal with the tragedy we've all faced and we've all faced it. so, believe me we want to know why. >> okay, i want to take this time to give the commissioner an opportunity to say a few words. >> thank you. i'm going to say some things that the sheriff didn't say. whether y when you see these men and women in uniforms, and a lot of meant and women that don't wear uniforms uh-huh you got to tell them thank you. i've dealt with these folks, working with them for the last three days, they're working on zero sleep, i beg of you to show some patience. identify heard the same question
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asked three, four, five times in different ways, they're not speculating, there's no conjecture here, they're not dealing with theories they're dealing with facts. their primary purpose and their goal is to conclude this investigation in a professional and accurate manner and i'm totally confident they're going to do that. they're protecting the citizens of clarke crow and the tourists tar here. they have made the place safe again. i implore you please, please slow some patience and understand they're not going to deal with conjecture and theories coming up on social ple media. thank you very much. >> my words and comments are similar to what commissioner just said in the important of patience. this horrific incident is less than 72 hours old. the reason i come to the
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briefings and press conference is to listen to sheriff and learn bit by bit what happened just a little while ago. what i want to express is my gratitude to the sheriff and etf and everybody keeping us up to date on what is going on. i also want to say how grateful i am that the president of the united states came in and expressed his sincere concerned for the community and understand what this means. identify had a rare occasion to be at 30,000 feet in a couple of hours face time with this president and we talked specifically about the heroes, individuals, deputies, first responders and all that and what they were able to achieve in a very short period of time. in my cell phone here i have numerous pictures and survivors from ufc and i shared the pictures with the president of the united states so he could see what happened occurred.
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one was a deputy, second day on the job, his father was at the event as a spectator when the shooting occurred, got hit in the arm and went to his chest. his name is brady cook. i shared this story with the president, president went up to the fifth floor of the unc and had an opportunity to talk to this young plan and express his sincere gratitude for his strengths. i also showed him a picture of a cell phone, an apple phone that had a bullet through it, it was a therapist over at u flrks c. that bullet went through her phone and hit her hand. she just had tissue damage, she fixed it herself. went back to unc and spent hours helping those that had come into the hospital. these stories were important for me to share with the president of the united states as he was coming into this valley and understanding the depth of the
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issue we had on hand. it wasn't just that i also lobbied him on a couple of issues, one has to do with terrorist. now i didn't lobby the president because it was important to me, i asked the governor what should i talk to him about. i asked the mayor what do you want me to talk to the president about. and it had to do with this terrorist funds that come out of homeland security. and how important it is that las vegas, the strip has the funding necessary to keep not only citizens safe, but also those who are visiting this city. it's not enough we have 42 million people that come in every year to visit and i want to make sure las vegas has the terrorist funding necessary to keep us safe, to buy the equipment they feed to be able to monitor and be able to follow up on the issues they're faced with on a day-to-day basis. my gratitude continues from
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everybody around the country. about 15 seconds ago i was sitting right behind her, a cab driver that i used in new york city sent me a text, we game friends on a ride but his message was senator, myself, my family and all my drivers wanted to express my condolences of those touched by the weekend shooters. all our best. the cab driver from new york concerned about las vegas valley. i am grateful for all my colleagues back in washington, d.c. grateful for the sheriff, fbi, atf, all that's being done. thank you very much for being here today. >> all right, that will conclude today's press conference. so, as a matter of moving forward i can't give you a definitive time for tomorrow. i anticipate these press coverag conferences will stay at a maximum once a day because leads
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are changing that fast for us to address this group. the one thing i wanted to talk to each and every of you in this room, thank you. thank you very much. you have been very professional, you have not been overwhelming and i appreciate your candor and your ability to express exactly what occurred in the las vegas valley. so, thank you and hopefully you have a great night. thank you. new details tonight from las vegas, authorities just heard sheriff lombardo, he said the gunman had to have some help doing what he did. new time line, first one fired 10 o5:00 first breach of his room an hour and 15 minutes later. i'm here with former assistant director service, and law enforcement experts is with us as well. art, in terms of what you heard,
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a lot of information in in the just the timeline but the idea this guy was thinking about trying to have an escape plan. >> yeah that was the first time we heard this. it's also concerning what with he had in his vehicle. he had explosives in his vehicle, it would have been set off at any given point. this plan of escape opens us up a lot wider. the explosives in the vehicle are very concerning. >> also by the way, phil mud is with us, david simon. phil it's interesting seeing that timeline, you get more and more of a sense, you heard for that long for them to breach the door. the shooting only went on for ten minutes. they were able to get up to that floor and they found a security guard that had been shot, it seemed like from the timeline, it was the shooting of that
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security guard from the hotel that redirected his attention to the possibility his room was going to be breached and stopped him from firing any more out the window. >> it did. it broke the scenario. the fact that law enforcement could ascertain from when the first shot was fired and began making it to the floor and intervene in ten minutes. >> it's incredible. >> it is incredible. >> whether you look, it's blocks away, it's too small windows on the 32nd floor, i assume some officers saw a muzzle flashing and that's the way they figured it out. it was only that amount of time i think it's remarkable. >> it's dark, there are tens of thousands of people that are about. you don't get a sflar owe as you have a sniper shooting down. >> terror watchtower. >> but in ten minutes they
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figured it out. >> phil mud what stood out of this press conference? >> whether you look at the character risks -- going to the house, going to the hotel room, we have a lot of information about that. how they breach it had location, how many weapons and rounds were found. the two basics elements we want to understand, what kind of digital information do we have, how do we exploit it, phones and things like laptop, that's typically in the fbi inbox, zero. we got nothing on that today, as you'd expect 72 hours into that. the second thing would be people, interviews. there was a suggestion in there by both the sheriff and the fbi that some of the interviews are cooperative, people are providing information. maybe including the woman who was the girlfriend of the shooter. mentioned, she's not in custody and talked about not wanting to
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disclose her location because one would not want to talk about someone whose cooperating. that to me is important. whether you have people that's -- that could cut to case to motivates. those two areas, digital communication and interviews. and it was >> the sheriff talked about kind of a secret life this person had. i don't know if that's based on particular information, to phil's point that they have learned. but also that he had rented out a room, i guess it was the week before, at a prior music festival. >> that's right. so this is just consistent with there was a lot of planning. perhaps he even had a different target in mind at one stage but preferred having the elevated view over the concert. when you look at this press conference, i think there was sort of clear tension or at least sort of the sheriff wanting to sort of give more
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information, the fbi essentially standing up there saying, only the facts, only the facts. something the sheriff said that we've been talking about the last two days, he finds it inconceivable that something like this could have been planned for so long and that he was unassisted. those are his exact words. do you think heck do this unassisted? and so that does make me think that these interviews are leading to questions about if others knew, coconspirators, with the girlfriend, she may be cooperating now, she may not be cooperating later. she may constructively have knowledge that something was happening but not until she sort of pierces her own memory, realized that was what in fact was being planned. so these investigations will take a long time. definitely the sheriff has a theory of the case, so this investigation is going to move forward. >> phil mudd, to you the idea of the explosive left in the
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vehicle, and based on what the sheriff said does it seem to you that there may be some idea in this person's mind that they had some sort of exit strategy? or idea of moving elsewhere? >> there's a scum characterisku characteristics about the explosives that i feel curious. ammonium nitrate that could potential will be be used with other materials for a back pecuniary bam bom. why did he acquire that and never use it? there's a reference to tannerite. art probably knows more about that but that can be cinematic, dramatic. you put a small amount of that in a place, pop it with a rifle, you get a large explosive effect. did he want to use that over time in some location to create a diversion? the answers about those explosives i think will help us on a couple of questions, anderson. one is what the sheriff was talking about, did he want to escape? did he have other locations he was thinking about? and two, why did he acquire t s
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materiel and not use it? was there a trigger that led him to choose that target and location before he could fully develop a plot? >> art, to you? >> the explosive is the biggest question here. there's a lot of questions about explosives, what was he planning to do with those? you don't acquire them, leave them in your vehicle, and not have a plan for them. was he using that as a vehicle-borne explosive device president other thing that is terrifying, i keep coming back to the intervention, the early intervention by the first responders. the amount of -- we don't know how many shell casings actually will be found, they haven't accounted for that. but the amount of munitions that he still had available to him. and had he chosen to continue firing, the death toll, it's incalculable. >> it would have been. another thing that needs to be brought up, and we've talked about this, the bump stock that
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he's using, this kind of odd mechanism that allowed his weapon to fire like an automatic. that's not easy to use. it's a very difficult kind of technique to master. which means he would have had to have practiced a lot. and the question mark is, where was he doing it? and was anybody assisting him with that? >> you made the point earlier about the way he was using -- the way the gun was set up. >> it was set up for tactical purposes. but those weapons are not made to fire in automatic status. so that bump stock that he had would cause a jamming in the weapon at some point in time. if you're not 100% sure on how to use it. so he had a lot of training, obviously, to set those weapons up the way he did. but that bump stock can cause the weapon to malfunction or jam. >> we don't know if that did and if it contributed to him not doing it, or was it just the intervention of the security guard? >> the other thing in the
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weapons, the photographs we've seen, some of the weapons are meant for distance shooting, some of the weapons are meant for close-in either defense or fighting. >> handgun, shotgun. >> even the one that had the hand grip on the very end of the barrel. >> 323. >> that is the one that is set up to clear the hallway, maybe, the sheriff saying there was some 200 rounds he thought were fired in the hallway. that's a staggering number because did he reload? where did he fire one weapon with 200 rounds? so he's got certain weapons that he's using to fire on a crowd, he's got other weapons he's using as defensive or maybe part of this escape plan me talk of. >> with so many active shooter situations, could go to the fbi's review of all of them since columbine, i think it's the first six minutes or so in which most of the fatties take place -- fatalities take place. do we know why it doesn't go longer? in some cases shooters kill themselves prior to intervention by the police. >> sure. some of these situations where you're looking at this, whether
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you're looking at terror situations that i studied in my career. the individual invests so much of their emotion in getting to the location and conducting the attack, that is, they've got to build up to an emotional bubble that says, i'm going to kill people. when i kill people, most likely i'm going to die myself. what i'm saying is once they get to the actual event, they might not always have thought through, how do i maintain focus for 20 minutes or 30 minutes? so that i can kill 500 people instead of 100 people? they're invested in conducting the event and once they get into the event the emotion is so intense that they might lose focus, they might focus on killing themselves because they don't want to be taken by police, it's the emotion of the event that drives them. >> there's also the question of money. jen simon has been looking into the shooter's finances. dan, what have you learned so far? >> no question, anderson, that is going to be an important part of the conversation and the investigation. we know that the shooter often
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described himself as a professional gambler. but he was also an active real estate investor. as you have heard. we know that he bought and sold some 11 properties going back to the 1980s. some of them netting him a small fortune. one example, in 2004, he sold an entire apartment complex in the town of hawthorne, california. he had his ex-wife and family members as partners with that. they sold that for $3 million. they bought it for $1 million a decade earlier, $2 million net. and so this was an important part of his life. one other thing, when he bought his most recent home in mesquite, it was an unusual transaction because when he bought that home, he paid for it entirely with cash. and the agents were startled by that. and when he bought that house, he said in passing to those agents, apparently at closing, that he was a professional gambler and that he would gamble $1 million each year in las vegas. >> phil, just from an
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investigative standpoint, how much more do you want to know or investigators need to know about the shooter's financial situation? how significant is that, could that possibly be? >> it's not simply a question of financial situation, anderson. it's placing it in the context of a couple of other elements that are going to multiply over time. so we have how much money he acquired, how much money he spent, how much money he invested, how much he gambled. that's on a timeline. on that timeline as well i want to know where he moved, when he moved, whether that timeline corresponds with when he found friends, when he lost friends, when he developed a relationship with his girlfriend, when he decided to send her overseas. so it's the money, whether the quantities of money change over time and how they correspond to other changes in his life. friendships, romance, geographic movements, that is, when he moved from mesquite to other residences. you start to get a pattern of life that might show aberrations. he suddenly lost money, for example, i don't know this, but just speculating, maybe he lost
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money six months ago and we saw at the same time differences in his relationships with friends. that's really important, anderson. but you need a lot of data to put together that three-dimensional picture of a life. >> just in terms of the investigation and from what you heard tonight, what else stands out to you? >> so i think most of the focus is going to go on mary lou danly, the girlfriend who was with him during this most significant period. it appears he purchased the guns during a elemented period of time, the last year. and she's with him during that time. so she's going to be focused just highlighting what was going on in his life that might actually come to the motivation aspect, the thing that we're so curious about. i am going to say this again, though. the sheriff does seem to have a theory of the case. he said it out loud, that he does not believe that he could have planned this alone. and so there will be a look for coconspirators as well to at least -- with the potential of
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arrest if they were actually involved with the planning of this. >> there's still obviously a lot to be learned in the days and obviously weeks -- obviously this investigation could go on for a very long period of time. and they're being very transparent as they can, but at this point investigators want to hold back as much as they can. >> you're getting a lot of information from the sheriff. the fbi, general already think standard answer which they're involved in the mission ddle of investigation. >> there's one point they mentioned there. october 2016. seems to be when there's some kind of shift in his attitude. because that's when the buying spree -- this is when we start seeing the 33 guns that were purchased recently in the last year, when that began. so naturally the question mark is, what happened? what went on? was there something in his life? >> exactly. but he also purchased those at different stores. >> that's corr