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. so how is everyone? find your awesome with xfinity xfi and change the way you wifi. i'm brooke baldwin, thank you for being with me here as we continue our coverage of this mass murder in las vegas. we still don't know why this twice-divorced, high-betting retiree decided to commit these horrific crimes, but we now know he originally wanted to survive it. police say he actually had an escape plan and the letter they found inside his hotel room wasn't a suicide note. police say the gunman stockpiled his arsenals for months and months. 50 pounds of explosives and 1600
rounds of ammunition, and that was just in his car in the hotel parking lot. meantime, his girlfriend tells the fbi she had no idea of his murderous plan, but police insist he could not have possibly pulled this off alone. >> when you look at the weapon obtaining, the different amounts of tannerite available, do you think this was all accomplished on his own, self-value, face value you have to make the assumption that he had to have some point at some point. >> we just heard from first responders who reveal the chilling confusion as they tried to figure out what was happening. >> if you've ever had an opportunity to sit on a call-takers panel and listen to a citizen, another person in absolute shear terror for their life, for their loved one, those men and women and that dispatch office did a phenomenal job.
they are here rows that sat in one building and handled the phone calls, but heroes because they handled that business, got people to where they needed to be, they handled the resource requests of us as a fire department and chief officers looking for help. i have to applaud them. they did a tremendous job. as far as the reports from other hotels, that complicates the matter. we've got things going on in the immediate area, but when you get a 911 call when we have shots fired at caesars palace or as far away as spring mountains, that complicates what is going on in our town? is this a single event or are we under a mumbai-style attack with multiple things going on in multiple properties. we had to handle that. >> that confusion can be seen in this new video taken by a city worker showing terrified concert goers trying to escape. >> get down.
get the [ bleep ]. those are shots. run. those are shots. run! don't walk cloim. >> run! go dlaim go! everybody go. >> this is what the scene of terror looks like today, these aerials showing everything that was left behind, this area stroon with abandoned belongings still a crime scene. dan simon is live at the scene. dan, on top of everything we're learning, we also know this may not have been the first music festival this gunman wanted to terrorize. >> reporter: that's exactly right, brooke, there's growing evidence that other venues, other music festivals may have been targeted. the most direct evidence we know of is the sheriff says the shooter booked a condo unit in another part of las vegas just the week prior. it overlooked this beautiful
music festival. why he targeted the country music festival, we don't know. it's difficult at this point to ascertain a motive. the sheriff talked about the shooter's so-called secret life. what does that mean? we know apparently he did not have many friends. he did not have a social media presence, so talking to people, figuring out what was behind auld of this, we still don't know. the sheriff also, as you said, is looking into the possibility that the shooter may have had help, openly speculating because of the meticulous nature of the planning, he must have had some kind of held the sheriff said. he also said that it's clear that the shooter had some kind of escape plan in mind, but he did not reveal any kind of detail. we do know that he did fire some rounds at aviation fuel tanks. keep in mind that the airport is essentially next door. so is he trying to create some kind of explosion, was there a diversion nair tactic he was thinking about? we don't know, brooke. >> still a lot of "we don't
knows" yet. i have a couple of voices to help us look into the behavior piece of this. casey jordan, criminal profiler and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. let me begin with you. dan was alluding to the life is beautiful music festival in las vegas. we now have breaking news that we've just learned that someone with the same name as the shooter reserved a room in a hotel overlooking the lol palooza music festival in chicago back in august. the hotel says the person never checked echbt the room and they're not sure if the person who reserved the room was the shooter. same name. what's your reaction that he may have been scouting other cities and venues? >> he could have been scouting how many police typically cover these, what's the situation at the venue itself as far as security and how many people show up and what are the avenues of entry and escape.
it could have been that. i think the challenge there would be transporting all the weaponry he had in the hotel room in las vegas to get it to chicago and up into a room that would have an adequate view to do what he intended to do, might have been quite a challenge compared to being able to do it, to drive to the venue like he was able to in nevada. >> casey, we don't know if that was him for sure in chicago or not. apparently he scouted out this other veen you in las vegas. he was in this hotel room. according to the sheriff he was planning on escaping, left some sort of note, not a suicide note. the sheriff says there's no way he acted alone. what would make them think that? >> he must know something we don't know. there's absolutely no evidence of any of this they released to us. >> i'm sure they have a lot that
we don't know. >> i can't wait to find out what's in the note. it's not unfathomable that he didn't do this on his own. the idea of getting suitcases of guns in there by handing a bellhop a tip is completely within the realm of something he's capable of. he had a year of planning that went into this. he stockpiled 33 guns in the space of a year. he is a very intelligent man. i also don't think for one second he thought he was going to get away with this. he knew he would die. he put the cameras in the hallway so he could massacre the police as they came to get him. >> did he, though? they thought he would escape and he had the explosives in his car? >> where was he going to go, unless a helicopter dropped from the sky and took him out a broken window, there's no way he could have escaped alive. i don't think he was delusional. maybe they have something in a note that supports the idea, a conspiracy with another person or escape plan. this would be totally out of character for this kind of crime.
again, this was one for the textbooks. >> you mentioned the 33 guns he accrued over the course of last fall to this fall. tom, we know 47 firearms in total recovered in three different locations. he purchased rifles, pistols, shotguns, none of which appear to be home made, 12 of which equipped with this bump stock attachment making them automatic weapons. can you explain for those who aren't as familiar with fire this sort of device? explain what that does? >> i'm not sure how to answer that, brooke. i think what we're trying to do is explain the actions and the thought process of someone who is completely deranged and not thinking like we think. someone with that degree of psych pathy who is going to kill 50 or more people with that many guns, that many bullets, able to modify the guns to essentially fire fully automatic, this is not the thought processes that someone like you or i would
easily relate to or understand. we don't know exactly what he was thinking. >> we don't know what he was thinking. my question was more about this device. as the former assistant director of the fbi, for those who don't know and for my understanding, this device enables you to take a semi-automatic weapon and make it virtually fully automatic. on the be haf your piece of this, casey -- this is what i want to ask you about, we've learned about neighbors and real estate, did this realtor cash some 300,000 private, cul-de-sac, did put up some mesh wall that neighbors wanted to petition. he was about privacy, privacy, privacy. does that surprise you? >> no. we all know people like this. i have a neighbor like this he was never a warm and fuzzy guy. everyone agrees on that, the neighbors, his family, his brother. he is a guy that grew up with the legacy of the father on the
fbi most wanted list. he always wanted to distance himself from that legacy, didn't want people asking about his parents or upbringing which included a lot of hardship. i think he spent his life trying to prove people wrong, that he could be a good upstanding person. there has to be some event and brooke, we may never know what it is. something triggered this, maybe a terminal illness, maybe he's in debt and we don't even know about it. he decided to just cash it all in. this really is an unusual case, but i think we'll find out more especially from that note, especially from the girlfriend may marylou. >> on the girlfriend, tom, let me ask you about her. we got this statement from her lawyer in l.a. she claims she had no advanced warning of this attack that she thought when she headed to asia he was just sending her away to break up with her. she says she loved him.
what other kinds of questions other than the obvious, did you know at all -- again, she says no -- that investigators will be asking of her? >> i think the most important question here is does she know someone else that he was in contact with who may have been a friend or someone he worked with or did real estate deals with in the past or it might be a gun shop owner. is there someone else whose name she could provide that could shed light on what he was thinking or doing that no one else knows because he doesn't have the fingerprints on social media that many younger people do have, that would be an important question. >> tom fuentes, casey jordan, thank you both. many moment amid tensions between president trump and secretary of state, white house press secretary sarah sanders will address reporters. we'll take that live for you.
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welcome back. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. live pictures inside that white house briefing room. we'll take the briefing as soon as it starts. a surprising turn today in the whole gun control debate days after this las vegas massacre. we're told that a republican-led bill may be introduced today to ban bump stocks, a device used in the massacre that increases the rate at which you can pull the trigger. so let's start with chris sal lizza, cnn politics reporter and editor at large. it is florida republican carlos kur bellow who is introducing the legislation. he said i think we're on the
verge of a breakthrough when it comes to sensible gown policy. we have been through mass shootings many, many times. do you think this is a real possibility? >> i think it is a possibility, brooke. i'm skeptical only because of the past. but again, this is not the assault weapons ban which sunsetted in 2004 which would be a huge measure of restricting guns, a particular kind of gun in the country. this is saying let's ban this thing that allows you, something you can purchase legally and turn into an automatic weapon. you would think there would be consensus for this. i always remind people 90% of the public, democrats and republicans favor closing any private sale and gun show loopholes that exist, 85% favor prohibiting mentally ill folks from buying weapons.
yet, we are where we are in congress largely because there is a view among gun rights supporters who see this as a slippery slope. you give an inch and the theoretical people who want to collect your guns and create a national registry take a mile. maybe this small carve-out because it was unique to this mass murder, it's one that seems to make common sense. i would argue other common sense things that are considerable support among democrats and republicans that haven't gone anywhere. if past is prologue, it may be a bumpier road than we think. >> as you have been talking i have been handed a statement from the nra. the headline is as follows. the nra says it believes bump fire stocks should be subject to additional regulation. >> so then it will almost certainly happen.
i reverse my course. the nra has been very much in the past, even in the wake of these mass casualty events using guns have been resistant to anything, any changes. but again, as i said, remember, this is not the assault weapons ban. this is not even closing what some people call loopholes, what some people don't, but the ability of some people in private sales to not have background checks. this is to say, hey, maybe we shouldn't have something that you can legally purchase that allows a gun to be turned into an automatic weapon. so, yes, i would say, if the nra is saying these things should be subject to it, it makes it much more likely that it will happen. >> let me go a little further. i have gloria borger with me onset. with this joint statement from the nra, they say the nra is calling on the atf to immediately review whether these
devices comply with federal law. the nra believes the device is designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations. that's quite a development. >> well, it is. look. this is a way to deal with gun control without dealing with the entire issue of gun control. >> as you just sat down, there she is, sarah sanders. >> yesterday three u.s. service members and one partner nation member were killed while providing assistance to counterterror operations. as many of you are aware, ufrmt s. forces are in the country to provide training the the local arms forces. in their efforts to counter violent extremist organizations. additionally two u.s. service members were injured and evacuated in stable condition to germany. names are being withheld at this time as part of the next of kin notification process. our thoughts and prayers are with the friends and family of
the service members who made the ultimate sacrifice in defense of the freedoms we hold so dear. the president also visited las vegas yesterday to offer his support to the incredible people there. he met with law enforcement first responders, the medical trauma teams, all of whom did incredible work under dire circumstances and visited with survivors and their families. the president was deeply touched by the spirit of the people in las vegas. the president made 28-year-old thomas gunderson recovering from a gunshot wound to the leg. after being shot he drug himself behind a row of bleachers and began worrying he might bleed out. two young woman rushed to his side, one tide a belt to his leg and others rallied a group of men to rush him to safety. when the president and first lady walked into his room at the hospital, he endured the pain and rose to his feet. when asked why he did it, thomas said, i will never lie down when the president of this great
country comes to shake my hand. the las vegas strong hashtag that has swept across media in recent days could not be more fitting. looking ahead to tomorrow, the vice president will be traveling to florida, the u.s. virgin islands and puerto rico. he will meet with survivors, local officials and first responders and personally assess the massive recovery efforts. the federal government continues to provide much-needed personnel and supplies to puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands. puerto rico's governor recently said and i quote, the president and the administration, every time we've asked them to execute, they've executed quickly. that has been and will continue to be our goal. this unprecedented relief effort should make it very clear we will not rest or stop until all of our people are safe, secure and set on a clear path toward building the very bright future they deserve. with that i will take your questions. jill. >> two topics for you. does the president support legislation that would ban or
regulate bump stocks? >> right now our focus over the last couple days has been on healing and uniting the country. the investigation still continues to be in very early stages. we know that both -- members of both parties and multiple organizations are planning to take a look at bump stocks. we welcome that and would like to be part of that conversation. we would like to see a clear understanding of the facts and we'd like to see input from victims' families, law enforcement and policymakers. we're expecting hearings in other important fact-finding efforts on that and we want to be part of that discussion. we're certainly open to that. >> can you tell us anything about the president's thinking? >> we're open that moving forward but we want to be part of that conversation as it takes place. >> daca today, the october ath deadline. is there any thinking about extending the deadline because so many people didn't submit renewal to rms? >> i'll keep you posted on any
announcements on that front. right now the president's position has been that he's called on congress to come up with a permanent solution and a fix to this process, to have responsible immigration reform. we'd like to see that be a part of it. maggie? >> -- asking for cuts in the levels of illegal immigration going to be part of what the white house seeks in the daca fix? >> very soon, probably in the very short future and we'll let you know when we do that and you can see all the details on that day when it's there. >> i think a couple questions on puerto rico if i can. the president said that the debt in puerto rico is going to be wiped out. director mulvaney cleared that up a little bit saying that we shouldn't take the president word for word on that. can you just button it down from the podium whether or not the president will take action or push for legislation to forgive
any of the debt that puerto rico currently has. >> right now the primary focus is to provide relief to puerto rico and support in the rebuilding efforts. while we're still dealing with the immediate disaster, it isn't indiana appropriate to focus on the difficult it is puerto rico was dealing with prior to the storm. there's a process of dealing with puerto rico's debt. it will have to go through the process, a process put in place and set up under obama and that has a board of advisers that deals with that debt. it will go through that process as we move forward. matthew? >> i'm wondering if there's any concern in the white house that the president's frequent use of the fake news to describe mainstream outlets, muddies the water a little bit and makes it harder for citizen to identify the actual fake news that the intelligence agencies have said that countries like russia used to interfere in the last
election? >> i think the president has a great frustration with the fact that a lot of times you have inaccurate information that's being presented as factual. a lot of times you have opinions that are being presented as news, and they're not. i think that that is a real concern and something that certainly something should be looked at. >> distinction between erroneous reports or reports he finds offensive and the type of fake news we saw pushed during the election by russian intelligence, does he see a distinction there? >> we see a problem with any stories that are inaccurate or untruthful being presented to the american people as facts. >> can you give us a reading on the meeting with senator cotton? >> the president routinely meets with senators and house members, and this wasn't anything beyond that. they talked about a number of issues. obviously senator cotton has been somebody the president has worked with regularly since taking office.
we'll continue to do that. major? >> beyond bump stocks, does the president have as open an attitude about gun control that have long been evaded or the white house openness, as you just described, in being willing to be part of that conversation limited to one on bump stocks. >> the president is a strong supporter of the second amendment. that hasn't changed. this is a president who wants to look at -- i think at this point in the process, i think we all need to take a step back. we had one of the most horrific tragedies that's ever taken place on u.s. soil, and before we can run out and start talking about the preventions for something like that to happen again which we all certainly want to do, we have to determine what caused it. we haven't gotten that far down the road. that's something that law enforcement agencies are all collaboratively working day in, day out to do. we want to help support that
effort in any way possible. and again, i think that this administration's position is extremely clear. we would look at taking any step we could to prevent something like this from happening again. >> just to be accurate on that. bump stocks is what you're open to having a conversation about and that's it for the moment? >> that's certainly something we're certainly open to having that conversation. at this point again, i don't think we want to start making rash decisions. we'd like to get more facts about what we can do, not just in this case, but this is a president who is very committed to doing every single thing he can every day to protect americans lives, whether that's securing the border, whether that's defeating isis, whether that's containing north korea and whether that's looking at legislative fixes that may be necessary to help protect american lives, that's something that the president and the administration are committed to
doing. kevin? >> a lot of people talk about the bump stocks. i'm going to talk about something else. that's the iran nuclear deal. october 15th deadline coming up. i want to make it clear for the people that don't know, it's a little more complicated because there's also the review act that congress enacted last year. i'm curious, given that the president has previously said this deal was an embarrassment, does it make sense then to presume that he will not choose to recertify, or might he decide to strengthen sanctions and sort of stay in the deal that way? what's your thought? >> the president has, as he said, made a decision on this. he'll make that announcement at the appropriate time. the main focus that he has had has been a comprehensive strategy on how to deal with iran, that is what he wanted his team to put in place. i think you will see that announced in short order, and that will be a comprehensive strategy with a unified team
behind him supporting that effort. >> different voices i'm imagining in the room on that. even though they'll move forward as one, there's been some debate. fair to say that? >> the president's team has presented a united strategy that the national security team all stands behind and supports, and the president will make that announcement soon. john? >> since the briefing began, sarah, the nra put out a statement as relates to bump stocks, their position on bump stocks. they write that they believe devices that allow semi-automatic rifles to function as fully automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulation. does that change the administration's point of view? after all the president has been a big supporter of the nra and the nra has been a big supporter of the president? >> as i said a few minutes ago, we welcome that and a conversation on that. that hasn't changed. it's something we're very open to. again, we want to be part of the conversation on that moving
forward. >> let me ask you one on puerto rico and one on taxes. going back to puerto rico, you said with the debt, there's a process in place and that the process will play out. does that mean the president's comments of just simply wiping away the debt is no longer on the table? >> the president wants that to go through that process. that's the stage we're in on this. >> chuck schumer right nor or is scheduled to have a news conference about the state of local tax deductions being wiped off the books, how they should stay on the books. there's currently one republican senator, seven republicans at least in the house who want that to stay as a part of the tax framework. the president talked about red lines. is he up for negotiation on salt or is this something that is a red line. >> the president has laid out his priorities and the framework of what he wants to see in this tax relief package. i think one of the big things you have to look at is most
americans don't actually itemize deductions. 80% of the benefit goes to six-figure tax filers. the fact is, it isn't fair and doesn't make sense for working americans across the country to subsidize the wealthy. the president has been clear on his position. we're moving forward with the framework we've laid out. >> yesterday the administration asked for $13 billion to help storm victims. will some of that go towards helping puerto rico rebuild its power grid which was in pretty dire straits before this storm? >> there was a large portion of that that will go to fema's disaster relief fund and that will be determined at the appropriate time which parts of those will go to which efforts. i direct you to fema on the specifics of what that would look like. >> the president tweets this morning he'd like to see the senate intelligence committee
investigate news outlets and i guess this quest to go after fake news. does he value the first amendment as much as he values the second amendment? >> absolutely. the president is an incredible advocate of the first amendment. with the first amendment -- hold on. i allowed you to finish. with the first amendment, with those freedoms also come responsibilities. you have a responsibility to tell the truth, to be accurate. i think right now when we've seen recent information that says only 5% of media coverage has been positive about this president and this administration while at the same time you have the stock market and economic confidence at an all-time high, isis is on the run, unemployment at the lowest it's been in 17 years, weave cut regulations at historic pace, fixing the va. with you've only found 5% of your time to focus on those big
issues. no a lot of the things you cover, not a lot of the petty palace intrigue that you spend your time on, i think we need to move towards a certainly more fair, more accurate and frankly a more responsible news media for the american people. >> sarah, if i can follow up on that. >> i'm going to try to get to everybody. >> very quickly, should congress investigate news outlets? >> no. >> one is governor brown in california just signed a sanctuary state statute. i'm interested in what efforts the administration will make to block the move and whether this signifies that the administration's efforts to crack down on sanctuary jurisdictions has failed given that california has more than 12% of the nation's population and it will now be an entire state under the sanctuary designation. >> look, we are spending every day we can trying to find the
best way forward. the president will be laying out his responsible immigration plan over the next week, and i hope that california will push back on their governor's i think irresponsible decision moving forward. >> my second question was a follow up to jim's -- >> i'm going to try to get to everybody today. >> is the president upset his secretary of state didn't deny calling him a moron in his public remarks yesterday? >> as the secretary of state said, this is a petty, ridiculous accusation. frankly i think it's beneath the secretary of state to weigh in on every rumor out there. his spokesperson, however, did come out and clarified that the secretary of state had never used those words. >> what's your response to those who say the president undercut the secretary of state? >> i think the premise of that question is absolutely ridiculous. the president can't undercut his own cabinet. the president is the leader of the cabinet. he sets the tone, he sets the
agenda, and i think that question makes no sense because of that. >> two questions. first let me follow up on kevin's question earlier about the iran agreement. we know that decertified does not mean a complete cut and it would still keep the u.s. in the negotiating procedure. on the other hand, a clean break such as that advocated by former ambassador john bolton would completely separate the u.s. from any agreement with iran. ambassador bolton opposed that, reportedly has been unable to talk to the president about it. is the clean break advocated by him still on the table? >> as i told kevin, the president is going to make an announcement about the decision that he's made on a comprehensive strategy that his team supports, and we'll do that
in the coming days. i'm not going to get ahead of that announcement by leaning in. john, i'm going to try to get to everybody. >> i had two. >> i know. everybody has two. if that's the case, that we're setting, somebody can say i have 12 questions on the front end and i never get to go to anybody else. i'll come back to you if we can. david? >> we know secretary price was essentially let go for his private jet travel and i know in close proximity to his firing, secretary perry took private jets. we know kellyanne conway flew along for one of secretary price's rides. at the same time the president has spent i think 17 weekends at taxpayer expense for the flights at the cost of $180,000 an hour for air force one and will take the plane to a fund-raiser in north carolina this weekend. here is the question. is he not setting the tone that tells the cabinet members this misuse or over use of taxpayer money is okay? >> i'll start with north
carolina. my understanding is that will be reimbursed forney political travel. >> the first class rate that secretary price -- >> i'd have to check on that. the president is certainly in a very different position. he's not allowed to travel in a different way other than in a secure airplane as air force one. >> he doesn't have to go every weekend. >> the president certainly hasn't been there every weekend. every weekend he's traveling, no matter where he is, he's working. e's hosted foreign leaders. they've lead to putting further unprecedented pressure on north korea in large part because of the relationship development that's taken place at some of those weekends that you're attacking for. this is a president that is committed to helping move his agenda forward and certainlyi think those weekends have been very successful in doing that. alex? >> i won't ask about the president's tweet this morning about the senate intelligence committee. is he frustrated with how long
the investigation into alleged russian election interference is taking? >> i think more importantly than the president being frustrated, i think the american people are frustrated. the senate intel committee told us yesterday that after nearly nine months of investigating that's included more than 100 interviews, over more than 250 hours, 4,000 pages of transcripts, 100,000 pages of documents, interviewing officials in the intelligence community who wrote the report on russian election meddling, interviewing obama administration officials and talking to every trump campaign official they requested, it's literally found zero evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and russia. i think the american people would like them to focus on some other things. i know that we certainly have said this all along and we're glad that, as they continue this process, they're coming to the same conclusion. >> on the kurdish vote last week, the u.s. commanders have regularly praised the peshmerga
for their ability to fight isis. what message is the white house and the u.s. government sending to them now by not backing them in their desire for independence? >> look, we've been clear and consistent on that. it hasn't changed and we're not going to weigh in any further than we already have. trey? >> sarah, does president trump believe the senate intelligence committee should investigate american media organizations? >> i don't know that that's the case, but i do think that we should call on all media to a i here standard. certainly i think i weighed in very clearly what our position is when jim asked a question earlier. >> -- senate intelligence committee looking into our fake news networks in our country? >> i think you have a lot of responsibility and a lot of times false narratives create a bad environment, certainly aren't helpful to the american people, and you have a responsibility to provide and report fair and accurate details. when we don't, that's i think
troubling for all of us. >> sarah, you said several times the white house wants to be part of the conversation on bump stacks. the president said we'll be talking about gn laws as time goes by. you also suggested i think, just to clear it up, the time to talk about that is after the investigation has gotten to another stage or wrapped up. if not now, when is it appropriate to start having this conversation about policy? >> i haven't said that the investigation has to be fully complete before conversations can take place, but i think we have to be careful that before we go out and try to talk about things that prevented something, we need to know what caused it in the first place. we're not there yet. we're still in that process. we want to look at every way we can prevent anything even remotely close to this from ever happening again, and we want to be part of that process and we hope to. >> sarah, if i can ask one question to clarify the white house's position on the bump stock. this morning in a couple
interviews your colleague kellyanne conway suggested the atf in 2010 made a decision that these bump stocks were firearms parts and not firearms themselves and couldn't be regulated under the existing law. is it the white house's view that that was the wrong decision on the part of the atf? >> i'm not aware of kellyanne's comments, so i'd have to look at that. before i weighed in, i'd want all the information in front of me before i could answer that. the bigger point, we're open to having that conversation, we think we should be vuld that conversation and we want to be part of it going forward. >> zara, i have two las vegas questions. one, is the administration consideration overriding the 2010 obama atf ruling on bump stocks? >> like i just said, i think that's something we should look at. we're very open to it. we want to have that conversation and move forward in the process. >> and second, the congresswoman from las vegas says she personally delivered a letter to the member of the white house staff yesterday inviting the
president to meet with the gun violence task force. did the presidency it? is he going to say yes? >> i'm not sure if he saw the letter. we'd certainly be open to having a meeting with a number of different organizations and people that would be involved in this process, certainly. >> do you know if he got the letter? >> again, i'd have to check before i could comment. >> has the president had even preliminary conversations with congressional leaders about bump stocks and did he talk to any of the rescuers in las vegas about these devices? >> i know the conversation came up in the very early stages with some of the members that were traveling yesterday, but nothing definitive again, opening up that conversation. like i've said several times today, that's a discussion that we welcome and that we want to be part of. april? >> sarah, over the last couple days the president has used the word fear, hate, cruelty. you're saying you're talking and having conversations as it
relates to las vegas. what is the conversation when it comes to the issue of terror? we've not talked about it yet, not classified it as such. talking to people from both sides of the aisle, they're saying there's no one settled universal definition for terrorism. we've seen timothy mcveigh with oklahoma city, we've seen womotr emanuel in charleston. under all circumstances we've seen so far, people who are intimidated, scared, ambushed military style, a planned, thought-out effort, whether it's political or not, they were tearized. is this administration willing to start -- since they're having conversations about other things, was this terror, domestic terror? >> i think that's something for the law enforcement communities to define and identify. i think the bigger thing that this administration certainly has been focused on is the prevention. looking at how we can stop
things like this from ever happening again. i don't kaerp how you label it, it's something that should never take place in this country. the president is looking for ways to make sure it doesn't ever happen again. >> what does this white house believe -- the president went there, vuz very controversial -- >> actually it doesn't controversial. it was widely praised even by democrat governor. i think it is sad that the mayor of san juan chose to make that a political statement instead of a time of focusing on the relief efforts. the president invited her to be part of that conversation. he specifically asked in the meeting where many were present including a couple dozen other mayors who were very happy with the recovery efforts. the governor, the congresswoman. he opened the floor up for discussion and she actually made zero comments. to me that would have been the time and the place that she should have weighed in and asked
for what she needed and laid out what she was asking for for san juan. she didn't. instead she chose to wait until the president left and then criticize him on tv which i think is the wrong thing for her to do for her constituents. i hope next time she's given the opportunity to help her constituents, she'll take it. halle. >> you've been very clear the conversation is open to conversations about bump stocks and perhaps other regulations on gun control. does he want to lead that conversation? will he use the power of the presidential platform to push for more regulation on bump stocks which law enforcement officials have said were used in vegas? >> i think right now the position of the president has been to leave on uniting our country. we've had a country in mourning and i think we saw what kind of leader this president wants to be by what he did yesterday. he went in, he met with law enforcement officials, met with the medical teams and the survivors of that horrific tragedy. obviously this president wants to be a leader. i think he's demonstrated that.
i think he'll continue to do that in this process. if you want me to get down into the weeds on specific policy, i don't think we're there yet. right now we want to lead the effort on bringing our country together and offering comfort to those that have been hurt over the last several days. mike? >> the talk that some of the main facilitators of the iran nuclear deal are significant contenders for the nobel peace prize. is the white house aware of that and do you have a thought on who is being talked about on potential winners? >> i'm not sure of the nobel peace prize process. we've been very clear what our position is on the deal. that hasn't changed because people may receive an award for it. thanks so much, guys. have a good day. >> i have chris cillizza and gloria borger standing by. the thrust of the q&a on this bump stock device.
republican congressman kur bellow will be the one to introduce it which prevents a semi-automatic firearm from firing at a high rate of speed, making it closer and closer to a fully automatic weapon. to hear her -- obviously the talking point over and over is he's open to conversations, open to conversations. even now the nra has weighed in saying bump stocks should be subject to additional regulations. you've got some republicans in congress. why not dive in and say we'll lead on this. >> because i think he'd rather not lead on the issue of any kind of gun control at this point. he's a very strong proponent of the second amendment: i think on this particular issue he's happy to let congress take the lead on all of this. it's clear that they are. republicans are saying we're going to do this. the nra is saying we're going to
do this. the democrats will complain because they will say this is -- bump stock is not gun control. it's just bump stock and that's all you're talking about. we didn't even know it was an issue until the other day. the republicans can say they passed gun control. the president can then sort of say, yes, i'm with them. but i think he's got so many other irons in the fire right now, brooke, he's just not going to lead on this when it's time and he sees there's a deal on it, fine. >> chris cillizza, what did you think of all that with regard to gun kprcontrol? >> i think gloria is exactly right. i think why you see the nra come out, i think that will likely lead to its passage, particularly when you have the white house saying we're open to that conversation. they could have easily say we don't support that. the reason for that is this will make them able to make the case
to not just the republican base but more broadly to the country, look, this happened. we saw something that we all agree shouldn't be legal, this ability to turn a semi-automatic weapon into an automatic weapon and reacted. case closed. it obviously doesn't get at a lot of other gun control questions that's out there, background checks at gun shows, private sales, many other things that are out there that gun control advocates would want. what it does do is allow them to say, the issue was raised, we addressed it we're move on. >> i remind people, the democrat party on gun control is not a unified whole. heidi heitcamp in north dakota. i still remember joe manchin shooting a target with a gun in
an ad in 2012, i believe, to differentiate himself on issues from the national party. so this is -- it's not as though this is a surefire political winner either way. there's plenty of democrats who would be happy to say we voted for bump stocks, they're now prohibited, let's move on to something else. jim acosta is the one who asked -- we'll call it one and one-plus question to sarah sanders -- that plus that made news. set that up. when you were asking her about, this is all because of the report from another outlet and the president tweeting that the senate intelligence committee should start investigating fake news and to your question where she said no. >> reporter: we've been talking about, before my question the second amendment and the issue awful bump stocks. i asked sarah sanders the question, does the president value the first amendment as much as he values the second amendment because he did put out
that tweet earlier this morning suggesting the senate intelligence committee investigate news outlets, on the hunt for fake news, as the president likes to call it. i think what sarah sanders did at this point was used that as an opportunity to tout some of the news they feel like we don't talk about enough, the economy is doing well, the stock market is doing well and so on. but i did try to ask a followup question which was very simply, should congress investigate news outlets. it sounded to me like she said no, but then she did call on another reporter in the room named noah. we didn't get a clear answer on that. it took one of our other colleagues later in the briefing to follow up on that. i think sarah sanders sort of answered the question where she said i don't think that's what we're talking about here, something along those lines. but not really definitively answering this question, not definitively closing the door on this. we should make it very clear. if congress were to start investigating news outlets,
brooke, we are then something less than the united states of america. that is an an paulg suggestion to come from the president of the united states. sarah was saying, well, reporters shouldn't engage in opinions and so on, that that amounts to some sort of fake news. i don't think it's outlandish to say that congress shouldn't be investigating news outlets, not in this country. >> stelter, this is directed at you. she said we see a problem with any story that's opinion that's put out as fact. brian stelter, isn't that basically fox news, the president's go-to tv channel? >> indeed. the president has not given news interviews on tv since may. he goes to the friends on the opposite at fox news and speaks with them. i hope next time the president is interviewed, we'll get an answer to this question, about whether he actually wants senate
investigators to look into the editorial processes of american news organizations. i think he was just venting this morning, brooke, blowing off steam. it's newsworthy because the president continues to try to distract from the russia investigations, continues to try to say it is not a big deal, it is not real news, it is not important. i thought it was notable sanders said at the briefing the american people would like the media and is that the to focus on other things, not russian interference even though there's bipartisan agreement that the russians, they didn't just stop on november 8, 2016. this continues today, and it will continue in future elections. when you see the president attacking what he says is the fake news media, he's really trying to divert attention. i thought it was disappointing that that she didn't have an answer on what the president wants. here we see the white house once again dismissing the bipartisan agreements about the importance of the russia investigationtion and seriousness of russian interference. at one point, brook, we heard
sanders basically say there's no difference between a mistake made by a news outlet like the norg times or cnn versus the kind of fake news propaganda that was spread by russia. she was given a couple chances to say, oh, those are two different things, but she didn't do that. the president continues to use that fake news slur. >> gloria, their reaction, it was fake news rhetoric that's muddying actual fake news. >> huh? i don't really even understand that. i think if you sort of read between the lines of what sarah sanders was saying, she was sort of -- the president tweeted this morning the intelligence committee maybe ought to be looking at fake news, and then she took on the intelligence committee itself saying, look, they've been -- they've spent all this time, and she said they have literally found zero evidence of collusion. what the chairman of the senate intelligence committee, senator
burr, said yesterday actually, is they had not come to any determination on conclusion, not that they have found zero evidence, but they're not there yet. they're still in the middle of their investigation. so i think, you know, the president was saying one thing about the senate intelligence -- the intelligence committee ought to be doing and she was criticizing the intelligence committee for actually doing its job. >> just because it's something looking into that the president doesn't like, that also doesn't mean fake news. chris cillizza, one more for you. i read your people. bob corker told the world what he thinks of donald trump. here is an update. senator corker said he's standing by his comments that the generals and the secretary of state in the president's cabinet are keeping the u.s. from spiraling into chaos, standing by his remarks. >> i think rightly the las vegas story and the continued struggles in puerto rico still should dominate the news, but i will tell you in absence of such massive tragedies like that,
this would be a huge moment. you have a sitting very well respected republican senator. he's the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee essentially saying the president of the united states is a force for chaos, and that without his secretary of defense, secretary of state and his chief of staff, the country would have -- not just the country, the world potentially given the role donald trump is playing would descend into chaos. here is what should be scary. two things. one, corker is saying what he really believes because he's retiring, what does everybody else say? two, that this continues to just sort of churn. donald trump continues to do his thing without any real -- i guess we don't know what's going on internally, but he continues to say things like maybe we should investigate the media, and there's no check on it. so what is donald trump unbound? if kelly, mattis and tillerson are keeping trump in corker's estimation within the margins,
what are the things he's not doing that they're keeping him from doing and what does it mean if one or two or three of them leave? remember, bob corker is not some outsider. this is a guy who has intimate, intimate knowledge -- >> a great write on cnn.com. i love the graph where you say stop and think about that and read the previous graph. i encourage everyone to read all things chris sicillizza. coming up, more on breaking news, the shooter may have made a reservation at a chicago hotel during lol palooza. stand by for that. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. tylenol can't do that. aleve. all day strong. all day long.
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