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that is it for the lead today. i turn you over to wolf blitzer in the situation room. thanks for watching. happening now, get away plan. police believe the las vegas gunman planned to survive and slaughter and then escape. he had 50 pounds of explosives in this along with 1,600 blults. what was in the note he left at the scene of his driem? dry run. police say the gunman rented a condo overlooking another concert in las vegas and a room was rented, but never occupied near a huge chicago festival. did he plan other attacks? walking away. president trump plans to decertify the obama era nuclear deal with iran. which he railed against on the campaign trail. he'll drop the matter in the lap of congress, which will then have to come up with a way forward. will iran restart it's nuclear weapons program? and churning off the coast.
tropical storm nate is expected to threaten the u.s. gulf coast this weekend as a hurricane. new orleans is scrambling to get ready. we have the new forecast. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in the situation room. this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news, president trump plans to decertify the iran nuclear deal, declaring the obama era agreement not in the american interests. senior officials expect the president to unveil his plan next week. but rather than scrap the deal completely, he's planning to kick the matter to congress which would then have to find a path forward. also breaking, the white house says president trump is open to discussing a ban on devices used by the las vegas killer to turn many of his guns into the equivalent of automatic weapons. a dozen of the guns found in stephen paddock's hotel room were modified with a rapid fire
bump stock. key rmps are sounding receptive to a bump stock ban and even the national rifle association is calling for quote additional regulations. that comes amid chilling new clues, suggesting the gunman may have planned even more carnage. police say he had 50 pounds of explosives and 1600 rounds of ammunition in his car. suggest he intended to survive the massacre and escape. police say paddock rented a room overlooking another music festival last month. we're learning a room was rented in the name of stephen paddock near chicago's music festival in august. that room was never occupied. also breaking, the new forecast is coming right now for tropical storm nate. expected to hit the louisiana coast this weekend as a hurricane. officials in new orleans are racing to prepare and florida's governor has declare an emergency in 29 counties. i'll speak with senator
katherine cortez masto of nevada. and our correspondents and specialists, the guests are all standing by with full coverage. let's begin with the las vegas massacre investigation. the latest developments go straight to our own brian todd, he's in las vegas for us. what are you learning there today, brian? >> reporter: wolf, tonight investigators are piecing together more information on shooter stephen paddock's motive and on his planning. sheriff joe lombardo says he doesn't necessarily could have pulled this off without an accomplice and surprising new information tonight that the smooter may not have intended to die inside that hotel room. >> go, run, keep your head down. go! >> reporter: police believe that stephen paddock had not only had a plan to carry out mass carnage, but tried to escape. investigators say they have a clearer timeline of just what happened sunday night. the shooting began three minutes earlier than thought at 10:05 p.m. and lasted for tenter if iing minutes.
this newly released video shows victims fleeing along las vegas boulevard, still in the line of fire. 32 stories up :00 stories up at the first police officers on the scene arrive in a hallway, like this one, and find a security guard shot in the leg. it's the first interaction that suggests paddock was not planning to die in his suite. >> did you see evidence that he planned to survive or try to escape? >> yes. >> can you tell what you say that is. >> i can't tell you. >> reporter: police now say paddock barricaded the stairwell, similar to this one. and set up a system to monitor the hallway. including more cameras than first thought. two on this cart. one in the door's peephole. and another inside the room. they say when he saw campos on a screen, he unloaded more than 200 bullets, some through the door into the hallway. >> i believe because of his countermeasures placed in the peephole and in the hallway, he observed security guard and he was in fear that he was about to be breached.
>> reporter: at that point, police say paddock stops firing on the crowd. the sheriff believes he has turned his focus from killing to getting away. >> so he was doing everything possible to figure out how he could escape at that point. his concern was personal concern versus what was occurring down below him. >> reporter: paddock's car was stocked with 1,600 more bullets and 50 pounds of tennerite. >> there's one of three ways it's going to end for an active shooter, and they pretty much all know this. >> reporter: from a room two floors above and just down the hall, former las vegas s.w.a.t. team officer told us he doubts paddock could have ultimately gotten away. >> you're going to commit suicide, you're going to die in a hail of gunfire with the police, you're going to shoot it out with them and you're going to be killed. or you're going to continue on a preplanned rampage at locations b, c, d, and e until the police stop you. >> not escape for good -- >> how could it? he renlted the room in his own
name. he's already on video coming in and out. we know who he is. he's going to be the most wanted man in the world. >> reporter: he describes the set-up as well defended and carefully planned with a commanding few over the concert venue he targeted across the street. his deadly preparations all visible in the crime scene photos leaked to the daily mail which combine to show rifles with bump stocks, stands, scopes, and stacks of ammunition. and tonight, authorities say the suite was not the only room paddock booked. just a week earlier, paddock rented a room at the ogdon overlooking a music festival featuring lorde and chance the rapper. >> was he doing presurveillance? >> we don't know yet. >> reporter: a chicago hotel says in august, someone named stephen paddock reserved a room during the festival. although he never checked in. now a spokeswoman for that chicago hotel says it is not clear if the stephen paddock who
reserved that room in chicago is the same stephen paddock as the las vegas gunman. she also says she does not have information about a request for a specific view in that hotel. but she says they are working closely with investigators here in las vegas. wolf. >> brian todd on the scene for us, thank you. 12 of the guns in the killers hotel suite were modified with a device called a bump stock, essentially turning them into automatic weapons. the white house says the president is, quote, open to discussing legislation to ban the devices. and there's a move on capitol hill right now to do just that. with key republicans getting on board even the national rifle association wants what it's calling quote, additional regulations. let's turn to our congressional correspondent phil matingly. you've been talking to republicans who were skeptical of anything that appears to be involving serious gun control, but why is this gaining momentum? >> you know, they're generally surprised. when they listen to and i've talked to several watching videos of the attack and were stunned by the rate with which
the fire was coming out, their impression was this must have been an automatic weapon. well something that's been banned since 1986, those grandfathered in are cost prohibitive, republicans are saying look, if there's something that can mimic that rate of fire, a lot of republicans clearly weren't aware of, this bump stock modification, then something should be done about it. now it's important to note, you mentioned the nra, organization that is very weary of any type of regulation today releasing a lengthy statement that including this sentence. the nra believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations. there is an important caveat, unlike the lawmakers right now who are looking at legislative answers or solutions here, the nra is not talking about that. they are talking about the atf using it's own power to recess it's own authority to regulate the entities or figure out some way to ban them altogether. that is a very important distinction, but still, there's no question about it, there is momentum to do something.
the question though is what? >> saying you want to do something and actually doing something, so what is the current reality on capitol hill? >> it's more wanting to do something. and i think that's really important to note. again, a legislative push opens up a whole list of potential problems for republicans who are staunch second amendment supporters, when you look at technical details. how do you write legislative language. could you perhaps go too far, open the door to a less friendly administration to expand regulations. that is a real concern here. take a listen to house speaker paul ryan phrased how he believes things should happen going forward. >> i didn't know what a bump stock was until this week. a lot of us are coming up to speed, i'm an avid sportsman, a lot coming up to speed with just what this is. having said that, fully automatic weapons have been outlawed for many, many years. this seems to be a way of going around that. so obviously we need to look at how we can tighten up the
compliance with this law so that they are -- so that fully automatic weapons are banned. we need to figure out how this happened in the fist place. i think there's a big regulatory question and then we just have to do more research to find out what's the best way to make sure that the spirit of law is upheld. >> reporter: so wolf the speaker not jumping on board legislative action, but talking about the regulatory side of things. that's important in 2010, the atf in a letter to one of the entities that was creating these bump stocks said that they did not have the power to regulate these items. that is what the nra is saying the atf needs to reconsider. and that is the preferred route for republican leadership. that is very weary of a blank v kind of toxic gun debate. and concerned what that might mean going forward. it's worth noting, democrat in the senate who is introducing a bill to ban bump stocks saying that's not enough. legislation is the answer. as you noted, wolf, republicans in the house have introduced
their own legislation. the fight and the tension right there between whether or not to let the atf do it or actually move forward with legislation. that is the big question going forward and certainly something that needs to be resolved. can't stress this enough, at this moment, republican leaders very much would prefer the agency handle this instead of a legislative debate, wolf. >> wolf, thank you. joining us now, democratic senator katherine cortez masto. she served as the state's attorney general. thanks for joining us. let's go through several of the issues here. do you agree with the clark county sheriff, joseph lombardo's assessment that stephen paddock likely had some help carrying out this massacre? >> you know, wolf, i'm not going to second guess sheriff lombardo, i worked with him, our law enforcement here in this community are incredible. they're topnotch. i have every confidence in their investigation. and moving forward what they will uncover. >> the sheriff also says there
are indications that this mass murderer wants to escape, but refused to share that evidence with the public. have you seen anything at in all the briefings you've received so far to suggest there was a getaway plan? >> no, i will tell you, wolf, the briefings that i have had are similar to what everybody else is seeing and let me just say, the sheriff has been very transparent on what they can share and the the information that they're putting forth. that is not going to impede the integrity of their investigation. so, for my purposes, i think we need to let that investigation move forward and really not second guess it, and then just take the sheriff at his word. >> you're right, absolutely right, sheriff lombardo, the clark county sheriff that includes las vegas has been very open so far over these past several days. as you also know, let me try to get you to -- if you can answer this, the reports that the gunman actually cased other
venues in las vegas, chicago, perhaps other cities as well. what, if anything, could you tell us about that? >> other than what you know and you've heard publicly, that's the same information that i have been informed of as well, wolf. >> we've heard about chicago, there are reports of boston as well. do you know of any other cities that he may have potentially cased other venues, outdoor concerts? >> i do not. i know that our law enforcement -- along with our fbi, everybody, all hands are on deck, they're doing everything they can to take a look at what happened here. look at the information, and then release what they can. that's not going to impede the integrity of any ongoing investigation. >> are investigators any closer to finding a motive? >> i know they're working hard. and i've been to the command center several times, and i know from our fbi to our local law enforcement, to homeland
security, all hands are on deck. and everybody's doing their role and they're taking a piece in this and they're working 24/7 to figure out what happened here. and to give an answer not just to all of us that are questioning what's going on, but remember, this is a community in mourning. we have a lot of people who suffered. there are many who were injured are still in our community, and many loved ones and family members who lost their loved ones. so they're looking for answers as well. >> you know, and they deserve to get those answers. i'm sure you agree. before becoming a u.s. senator, you were the attorney general of nevada, prosecutor for many years, how unusual is it for a mass murderer to commit a massacre without a manifesto or an other clear motive. >> well, you can hear from the experts, i've listened and i've heard as well. it is unusual in a sense that we don't have a motive or something
that the law enforcement has immediately. but then again, these unusual circumstances. and you've been talking about it. we had a massacre that occurred here sunday night. because somebody was able to accumulate all of these weapons, and use a bump stock to turn a semiautomatic into fully automatic. it was a massacre. it was a slaughter. and that is something that we have to stop in this country. that's why as attorney general, i have been vocal and advocate for common sense gun safety measures. and i will be an advocate when i get back to washington, d.c. i signed on as a co-sponsor to diane feinstein's bill. i believe we need to do everything to bring these gun safety measures forward. i think we should do everything we can to make sure that the mentally ill and terrorists do not access to weapons and we have to do something about the devices, like these bump stocks. it's incredkrecredible to me the having a debate about whether it's a regulation or outlawing
them. it should be outlawed. there's no need for them. that's the discussion we should be having. >> but are you optimistic, senator, that any serious gun control legislation can actually pass through the house of representatives, the u.s. senate, with the republican majority in both? >> well, this is the first time that i'm hearing the republicans are even willing to come to the table to have a conversation. and the nra. so yes. i'm hopeful that they understand, all they have to do is come into my community, wolf. come to the hospitals with me. and talk to the family members and those that were injured. i mean, every single one of us that live in this community, and i was born and raised, we have friends or family members that were at that concert. people that are -- the incredible people that come to las vegas, that's over 40 million visitors, that traveled here just to have entertainment and enjoy an anniversary or a birthday now some of them are going home that will have
emotional scars for the rest of their lives. talk to those people and see what they have to say about this. >> our heart goes out to all of those people. senator, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> senator katherine cortez masto of nevada. up next, a chilling new details from the investigation into the las vegas massacre. did the killer plan to survive and escape? our specialists are standing by and breaking news, president trump railed against it during the campaign, now he plans to decertify the iran nuclear deal. can congress find a way to salvage the international agreement?
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president trump is open to discussing a ban on the devices used by the las vegas killer turning the guns into the equivalent of a automatic weapon. lots of them in his car. was stephen paddock planning more massacres? let's bring in our experts and specialists. do you agree with sheriff lombardo's assessment that stephen paddock likely had help carrying out this slaughter? >> that's impossible for me to know. i can't attest to the kinds of plans that he had outside of what i saw. what i can talk about is what leads someone like this to do something like a massacre like this. but i can't really attest to his relationships. i know that he was very, very a loner, of course, and had very few relationships and if he aligned with someone like him,
possible, but i don't think it's terribly likely. >> girlfriend for several years. >> but that's different from an accomplice. >> i'm not saying she was an accomplice. >> to have someone be involved requires something different from having a woman who's loving and nurturing and taking care of you. it's an easier probably gamut than having a person who would participate in something like this with you. >> it's very interesting. phil, what do you think? >> i was watching the sheriff yesterday, wolf, as you were, it almost seemed like he knew something he wanted to signal to the audience, but didn't want to the say it. that said, i'm looking at the facts that i've seen and i've heard people say there's no way given the amount of weaponry, the sophistication of the operation that he could have done this alone, i don't see that yet. i am half way there. there is someone in his background that knows something that is material -- not only to the investigation, but to his mental state. so to say that he was in isolation and nobody knew, i can't do that. just by doing the math. the amount of time that he was
looking at potential targets, the amount of people including his girlfriend and his family he was interacting with, and including people we don't know about for example maybe people at gun ranges, the a. activity he was undertaking including as we know now looking at other locations. you put all of those numbers together. the number of people, the amount of time. there is no way that he didn't slip at some point and say something that led somebody now to realize he was considering this act. >> could he have pulled this off by himself? >> i think he could have. it may not be likely, but i think he could. you know, i've travelled with film crews and you go to hotels and they have dozens of large cases with tripods, cameras, lighting equipment, and they get, you know, the employees of the hotel to load the carts, take it up to the room. he's a man with money. he could have easily had people -- once he got it in his vehicles and brought it to the hotel. he could have been bringing it day after day. he could have had the kind of help that people don't know what's in the cases, but get help up in the room. >> the sheriff says there are indications that this killer
wanted to escape. here's the question, you've sfided them over the years, do they usually try to escape the scene of a crime or do they go into a mass murder like this expecting themselves to die? >> well, i think it's more likely in this case that it's the latter. that he expected to die. he's not going to be able to elude the police forever. and his goal really, i think, probably a person like this does not to want ever be incarcerated. he does not want anyone to have control over him. he is seeking ultimate power which is the life and death sort of power that he has over people and shoots them in this burst of spasm of violence. for some people, that's very -- it's a very mask lin, military connotation. never put himself in a situation where he could be taken alive. >> as you point out, very few personal friends as far as we know, he does have the girlfriend, but is that typical among these mass murderers?
>> well, usually you don't hear about a good relationship with a woman, but we know so little right now and we heard that they had a nice relationship, it was a giving relationship, generous relationship, and we had someone else say that he was abusive to her in coffee shops. there's so much right now we don't know. but the fact is that we have seen in the anl nils of criminal history that people can compartmentalize. they may have the so-called legitimate mask of sanity or normalcy relationships on the one hand even as they're plotting something absolutely ghastly. >> here's what's sbeeging and worrisome, phil, they found lots of explosives in his vehicle outside. which suggests maybe he was planning to escape and maybe use those explosive some place else. >> i'm with you on that, wolf. i think a lot of us looking at the outside say you've got to be kidding me. remember, you're on the 32nd floor here, the response time was in minutes and the people coming upstairs and he knew this from the camera, came up very
quickly, that is law enforcement. you'd say from a rational actor model, there's no way somebody could have looked that the scenario and planned it and expected to get out alive. i don't buy that model. i see, i've seen people who go into situations that look ridiculous, and think they're going to get out. i think there's a chance he thought he would escape, he would use the explosives in the vehicle. remember, there are other weapons at his residence as he looked at other targets. that doesn't mean it was a rational choice. it does mean he might have gone through a process that says i think i can shoot my way out. >> the explosives, guns in that vehicle as well. stick around, we have more, more details emerging right now from the investigation into the las vegas massacre. did this killer have help preparing his attack? in a new storm, get this, now lashing central america. could it slam into the u.s. gulf coast this weekend as a hurricane? we just received the latest forecast. stick around. you're in the situation room.
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breaking news coming out of the white house right now. two u.s. officials tell cnn president trump plans to decertify the iran nuclear deal. declaring the 2016 pact negotiated under the obama administration, secretary of state john kerry not in the interest of the united states. let's get right to our global affairs correspondent lisa
lavender. you're woshing the story for us. be precise, tell what you say you're learning. >> we understand that president trump is going to say that the iran deal is not in the u.s. interest. that's decertifying this legislation that he has to talk about every 90 days. and this really kicks the can to congress to make a decision what to do with the iran deal. now this is just part of the plan that the administration is working on. we understand that secretary of state tillerson, who we talked a lot about this week is working on a plan so that president trump, the real headache for him is having to certify every 90 days when he's spoken so negative. they want to put the deal on the shelf. instead of certifying that iran is or is not in compliance, they're going to shift the focus to the other behavior that president trump is also very concerned about. we're talking about the ballistic missile program, we're talking about human rights. their activity in syria, yemen, he's working with the senate foreign relations committee
chairman bob corker, they're rewriting that legislation. so, it's kind of a face-saving measure, but also addressing the administration's other concerns so that's what will happen, they'll kick it to congress, congress will have this new legislation, and this also keeps the europeans on board because those europeans in the deal say they do not to want renegotiate. so it's kind of making, trying to keep everybody happy. >> since taking office, he's on two separate occasions had the secretary of state rex tillerson certify is that sooirn in full compliance and was going forward. now that there's going to be a change in that, caitlin, a lot of his top national security advisors are seemingly suggesting, not necessarily such a good idea, maybe the u.s. should definitely stay in this deal, at least for now. >> that's right. he seems kind of isolated almost in this thinking. he's maintained far long time that he thinks the u.s. is getting a raw deal with this, but just days before this deadline was happening with, we saw defense secretary james mattis say he thinks it's in
america's interest at this time to stay with the deal. and that's the first time we've seen the president at odds with his national security team either. just after secretary of state rex tillerson made a remark about dialogue with north korea, the president got on twitter and said, save your energy, don't waste your time trying to talk to them. but what's note worthy here is we're seeing how public these disagreements are. and they have no problem disagreeing with their boss in public. >> it's interesting because not just secretary of defense mattis, secretary of state rex tillerson, now dana bash is reporting that the president's national security advisor general mcmaster invited a small group of democratic senators to the white house on wednesday to discuss the president's plans on the iran deal. and dana's reporting that he hinted that mcmaster hinted, that he did not think decertifying is the right way to go. this according to two sources familiar with the meeting. how's this going to be received up on capitol hill? >> well, you know, it's all in congress's court at this point.
if you have listened to republicans over these last many years, as this deal has gone forward and been put in place, they think it was too soft. and they also talked originally about sanctions and wanting to reimpose sanctions. so that'll be a question as if to whether or not they're going to do that. they would only need 51 votes to do that. they have 52 republicans, it's not likely they're necessarily going get any democrats on board, even though there were some democrats who were critical of this deal originally, chuck schumer and ben cardon for instance. so i think elise is right, it's about shifting the focus, right. not reimposing sanctions, if they reimpose the sanctions, it's likely if you listen to what's coming out of iran that they would basically -- >> republicans, even republicans -- >> don't want -- >> don't want to be left holding the bag. it's really going to be up to what the senator cotton and mcconnell's going to do, but i think they're pretty much going to keep the deal as is. >> vienna, how are the allies, the partners, the u.s. worked
out this deal with the iranians together with the permanent members of the security council, the germany, the eu, they think the iranians are in full compliance. >> right. the p5 plus one, this wasn't a bilateral deal that the u.s. negotiated solely with iran. you already heard from the europeans early on following the president's speech at u.n. they were concerned when the president was stoking the flames about pulling out of this deal. china and russia have said they will not renegotiate, iran also said it will not renegotiate. it's president rouhani said from the get go that if this is what the president does, it's only going to isolate the u.s. remember, there are billions of dollars at stake with regards to trade with the europeans and iran. so for many people, the perspective is, the train has already left the station. one could also argue this is an added headache that the president sort of kicking towards congress. they've got daca that he pushed towards them. they have this now with iran they've obviously got to keep
the government funded as well. so they've got a lot on their plate that the president just seems to be pushing over to them for them to ultimately decide on, but i agree with elise, it is sort of a partial way of saving face. >> if the u.s. vienna were to walk away from this deal, how do you think the north koreans would react because there's a lot of effort, a lot of pressure on them to enter into some sort of negotiation on their nuclear program. >> well right, what incentive is there from you could say kim's perspective, if he sees that this deal with the iran was ripped apart by an incoming president. so, in his mind, many could say, why would he sit down and negotiate with this president, and one could say why would anyone negotiate when it's become so public the internal disagreements as far as foreign policy as it relates to both north korea, obviously from the president's tweets, and what rex tillerson had said to iran today. so that has always been the argument that sort of keeping things focussed on one nuclear
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deal with iran. elise, even though he's decertifying it, doesn't mean it's the end. he's kicking the ball to congress. let congress figure out what to do. that's basically the gist of what he's trying to do. there seems to be as we've been pointing out, serious disagreement among his national security advisors on this and other issues, the report yesterday with the secretary of state behind the president's back called him a moron. do they have fundamentally different world views? >> i don't think they're fundamentally different. i mean, i think that you have the tillersons, the james mattis' of the world and maybe secretary kelly, i think he might be a little more hawkish, label the more reasoned, a little bit more strategic as opposed to someone like president trump who's shooting from the hip, go withes his instinct. these people have a more dined of nuances world view. i think it's more about the president's temperament and about how he's undermining them at every turn. and how i just don't think if you look at someone like secretary tillerson and certainly secretary mattis who's
not only a military general, but a scholar of history that they think he's not really kind of educating himself. and taking the job seriously. this is the leader of the free world. and i think they hope that he'd be a -- take the decisions as commander in chief a little bit more, a little bit more seriously. >> senator corker of tennessee, the chairman of the foreign relations committee, he clearly thinks they have a different world view. listen to this. >> i think secretary tillerson, secretary mattis, and chief of staff kelly are those people that help separate our country from chaos. and i support them very much. i think he's in a very trying situation, trying to solve many of the world's problems. a lot of times without the kind of support and help that i'd like to see him have. >> talking about rex tillerson,
the secretary of state, but there seems to be a serious problem here. >> there is a serious problem according to some republicans, right? bob corker, of course not running again in sort of free to say many republicans privately have thought all along. which is that there are people in the government people like mattis, people like mcmaster, people now like john kelly who used to be at dhs and now working in the white house are essentially the adults in the room. kind of protecting the country from donald trump's worst instincts. i think the question going forward is for somebody like tillerson for instance is how much humiliation can you take? right? and is he really even saving the country from chaos? >> how much humiliation cannot just tillerson, but other cabinet secretaries take? the attorney general took some humiliation as well. >> well, there seems to be a bit of exhaustion from always being reactive to being proactive. you're seeing people within the administration playing months and months of clean-up as
opposed to actually going forward and implementing policy. of course they're cleaning up the president's tweets, the president's statements. i also don't know how much longer tillerson can withstand some of this internal rief that we're seeing in the administration. it's been the worst kept secret that he has been looking to leave. having said that though, i covered him on the business side extensively, he ran exxon, pun intended like a well-oiled machine. i'm not sure this is the way he would to want go down. i wouldn't expect him to be leaving unless he at least had a few months now to diffuse the situation. i know there's at least some policy he would like to implement or be associated with and not be associated with the word moron. >> quickly, caitlin, your thought? >> i'm not sure this relationship can be mended between the president and the secretary of state. this is a president who does not forget the smallest slight from anyone, and he's not going to forget someone calling him a moron in private. my sources told me yesterday that the president was aware before nbc news had first reported it it. but it's worse now that it's out in the open.
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a new tropical storm in the caribbean poses a threat to new orleans and the gulf coast this weekend. tropical storm nate is down by nicaragua and honduras. it's expected to move north over the next few days. let's go to our meteorologist tom sater. what does the new radar show? >> sustained winds at 40 and it only has to get to 39 to be a tropical storm. it's already now a deadly storm. blamed for six fatalities in costa rica. it's over land right now so it's interacting with land but it's going to move in very warm waters to the western caribbean and then move towards cancun and
cozumel. hopefully most of the winds in the right front quadrant over the water. then it gets to the gulf of mexico. remember hurricane harvey in just 12 hours jumped to a category 3 and, of course, making landfall as a category 4. sometime between 4:00 in the morning and 6:00 in the morning sunday morning, landfall. this could be anywhere between lake charles, louisiana, over towards panama city. this is the track from the national hurricane center. we're not looking at such a wide uncertainty by sunday morning. it picks up in speed and moves across the tennessee valley towards the northeast. keep in mind, these waters are extremely warm. what we've seen is rapid intensification. if we have a landfall, this will be the third one that occurs on the u.s. mainland. of course, four when you consider puerto rico rico. many other countries have been dealing with categories 4 and 5.
it looks like a category 1, possibly a category 2. we could see maybe a category 3. let's hope it stays on the low end. but a hurricane, nonetheless. >> let's hope it stays on the low end. hard to believe yet another hurricane in the next few days. >> yes, it is. >> tom, thanks very much into police believe the las vegas gunman planned to survive his act of slaughter and escape. he had 50 pounds of explosives in his car along with 1600 bullets. so what was in the note that he left at the scene of the crime? selectquote can help you keep your promise. with life insurance starting under $1 per day. but you promised, dad. come on. selectquote helped jim, 41, keep his promise by finding him a $500,000 policy for under $27 per month. and found kathy, 37, a $750,000 policy for under $21 per month.
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