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liquidity. and also the recognition that there is a disaster, tremendous disaster in puerto rico and we need to take immediate action. so i would like on behalf of the people of puerto rico to thank the leadership of the speaker for acting quickly as well as delegation that is here. taking into consideration the people and as the governor said, seeing it with his own eye answers hearing it with his own ears and recognizing that this is probably one of the biggest disasters that anybody that came into this trip has ever seen. so thank you for your leadership. speaker, thank you. to the chairman, congresswoman, thank you. on behalf of the people of puerto rico, thank you to your commitment for what is ahead for our recovery in puerto rico so we can rebuild stronger than ever before. i would like to have our fema
coordinator have some remarks as we well, congresswoman will have some comments as well. >> all right, house speaker paul ryan will be speaking after his tour in puerto rico. only 9% of the island right now has power. also, this, the president of iran firing back at president trump's decision to decertify the iran nuclear deal. that's just hours after president trump announced iran was violating the quote spirit of the deal. president rowhani said his speech was baseless and encouraged president trump to read a history book. here is somewhat of president trump said in speech today. >> the deal allows iran to continue certain elements and more importantly in a few years as key restrictions disappear,
iran can sprint towards a rapid nuclear weapons breakout. in other words, we got -- weak inspections in exchange for no more than a purely short term and temporary delay in iran's path. to nuclear weapon. >> joining me now from teheran is cnn's senior international correspondent fred fliekin. what more is rowhani saying in reaction to the speech? >> well it was interesting. he went on so shortly after u.s. president trump spoke and just absolutely ripped into president trump on pretty much every level. historically calling upon the many times that iranians felt that u.s. did them wrong. also saying that he believed a lot of things that president trump was saying was lies. saying that he believes that president trump needed a history lesson. let's listen in to more of what the president of iran had to say
a few minutes ago. >> in trump's. >> translator: in trump's speech, he talks about policy, only bad-mouthing and baseless accusations were made. against iranian nation. he he had nothing else to say. >> you know, one of the things that president trump in his speech said as he kept talking about the people of iran suffering under the government here. president rouhani saying that the u.s. and president trump were quote against the people of iran. but i thought the most important thing that i noted in the speech of the iranian president is that he was defending the revolutionary guard here in this country. that is something that is very, very interesting because the
revolutionary guard was by the iranian president and now to see moderates and others as well now come together defense of the revolutionary guard after they have been attacked by president trump and also designated terrorist organization by the treasury. that is certainly is something that is to be noted. certainly something we will have to see where this goes in the future. but certainly seems to shot power base here in this country, even people at odds with each other before now feel under attack and certainly are moving closer together than further apart. >> fred, live in teheran. thank you so much. now i want it talk moto talk wi walsh. welcome to both of you. jim, it is important to note that some of the president's top officials, a lot of them actually, disagree with the president. let's listen. >> iran is not a material breach
of the agreement and i believe it delayed the development of the nuclear capability by iran. >> my view on the nuclear deal is they are in technical compliance of the nuclear arrangement. >> do you believe it is in our national security interest to remain in the jcpoa? that's a yes or no question. >> yes, senator, i do. >> add it that today, rex tillerson who said himself, quote, we don't dispute they are under tech ninical compliance, t iran is under technical compliance. what do you make of that? >> what's another word tore technical compliance? compliance. it is what national atomic energy association said, iaea. and i think what we have seen play out is a process where the president's -- the president in his mind, wants to stop this deal and his national security
team is trying to walk him back or find some compromise, some way to thread the needle so that he can satisfy his own needs but also not destroy the agreement. because if we destroy the agreement, if you break it, you own it and we would be isolating ourselves and this national security team realizes that. so the real effect of this mckenzie, talk about this, he may be decertifying this, and so the optics of it are that he is out there in way dismantling the iran deal. that's not really what is happening. >> right. it would have been too hot to walk away completely and porridge too cold to be part of it. so this is his goldilocks solution. so all parties will keep it going and we are still party to the eye greemt. it is not a treaty and any changes require 60 votes in the senate. really what he is doing is kicking this to congress while
looking, it has the appears of taking action but for all intents and purposes nothing is fundamentally changing. >> sure. >> he is trying to spotlight the nonnuclear aggression of iran. he is using this nuclear agra t agreement to do that. >> 60 votes needed in the senate. and that would mean the republicans would rely on democratic help which it would be very difficult to see how they would get that. what changes might they want to make? would it just be conditions? >> there are are two sets of things that they will be looking for. one is, a variety measures that are aimed at iran's behavior outside the nuclear deal. like human rights or whatever it may be. and within their prerogative under the deal to do that. as long as they are respecting sanctions relief under the nuclear deal. now for the nuclear deal itself, there is a bill. a corker bill that is set that
allegedly is reportedly going to set triggers. you know, and try to introduce new extended restrictions on ballistic missiles or on this or that. congress cannot unilaterally renegotiate an agreement fle goe negotiated by sovereign states. so if congress says you bet are renegotiate the deal or we will impose sanctions, and they impose sanctions again, then we break the deal and that is a gift to iran and they can do whatever they want because we broke it. so the politics of passing any piece of legislation in this congress will be exceedingly difficult. >> that's republican bill that corker is doing obviously he has help but it is from another republican. so it just seems like that is kind of a no-go. mckenzie, i know you probably heard what the french president has said. he expressed fears about withdrawing from the deal. let's listen.
>> north korea is a very good illustration of the what-if scenario. with iran. why? because we start everything with north korea years and years ago. we stopped any monitoring. and communication with them. wla wlaen t and what the result? they get a nuclear weapon. so my position for iran is to say, look at the is theation on north korea. i don't want to replicate the situation with iran. >> mckenzie, that is a nightmare scenario where he is saying if in a way you alienate iran so much and they become essentially a rogue nation that could ultimately have nuclear capabilities and be like a north korea. how real is that concern? >> the french president shares that exact concern with our own secretary of defense, jim mattis. he expressed these same point to the president as well and i think they are incredibly
well-founded, if not scary. but true. so there is something to be said. and that really goes to the shares objective of president obama trying to achieve the deal. all of the other states are a party to it. u.n. endorsing it and trump not backing out but asking for parallel legislation. what is the end objective? all of this is a way to buy time. buy more time to prevent iran from continuing the nuclear program in the hopes that further opening their economy and their culture to western values will ultimately lead them to not want a nuclear weapon at all. who knows if any of that will be achieved. but the irony is that president trump shares that with the last president. >> that is ironic. >> jim and mckenzie, thank you to you both. president trump is undoing critical carts of obamacare by using a maneuver taken from the obama play book, that president
trump, then not president trump, complained about. he will end cost-sharing subsidies. this is the money given to health ensurers so that many lower income americans can afford their health insurance. i will turn now to julie, chief washington correspondent for kaiser health news. she covered every health bill in congress since 1986. you are the go-to expert on this, julie. and you point out that insurers still have to give low income americans these subsidies even if they are cut off from the federal government. so it is the insurerers who aren't going to receive the money. but how does this then perhaps get passed on to the consumer? >> well that's a good question. insurers will have a couple of options. of course the law requires they provide the discounts people with low and moderate incomes. and now the president has said, not so much by executive order, there's been a lawsuit that's been out there lingering, but he just decided at 11:00 last night that he is not going to pay them
any more. starting with this month's payment. insurerers can do a couple of things. raise premiums on everybody else. that's what most of them are doing for next year. open enrollment that starts in a couple of weeks. other things that insurers can do is sue. most legal experts think if they sue the federal government they will win. because the law says they are entitled to this money. just because congress didn't create a good enough appropriation doesn't mean they aren't entitled to the money so sm how. or this is what people are concerned about, they could leave the market entirely. that would hurt the lower income people and upper income people who pay the premium increases and there is a concern that there could end up being counties in the u.s. where there is no insurer on the individual market any more. which looked like it might happen and at the moment isn't. but there is an escape clause in most contracts that would let the insurers say, yeah, this is just too much. we don't want to play any more. >> so you think there is an
opening for insurers to sue? and i wonder, so i was looking on the website for heritage, the think tank, and of course a lot of conservatives say look, this money wasn't appropriated. this is illegal. that's one of the talking points from hearing from conservatives. heritage pointed out that congressional insurens subsidies that are dispersed also don't have congressional auj r royrizati authorization, that makes the chase this is legal even though it hasn't been appropriated or authorized by congress. >> they are two different things. congressional coverage is something that is kind of jury-rigged after congress applied the federal care act to itself and did apply it to itself but couldn't figure out how not to lose all of their staff by all of them losing their health insurance. so then staff could go through the d.c. exchange which isn't a small business and that is a kind of a drive rent issue.
but the law is clear about the cost reducks that the people who are eligible for them are entitled to them and that insurers are promised that that money will be paid back. just that the law, as we know, the law wasn't written as well as it could have been. we have seen a bunch of lawsuits and i think that's what is going on here. but the fact congress probably didn't appropriate the money doesn't mean that it is not still owed to the insurers. >> all right, julie, we are always taking complicated and making it more basic for it and appreciated. >> next, many of those impacted by the health care change are people who voted for donald trump. so what is the political impact of this for the president? and what is the likely hood that trump can get democrats to work with him on a health care solution? and the las vegas sheriff holding an emotional news conference defending his department's investigation into the mass shooting and explaining some of the confusion around the time line. and even conspiracy theorys that
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. as president trump makes good on his campaign promise to end key obamacare subsidies, now some attorneys general plan it make good on their promise to fight this move, calling the subsidy cut quote sabotage. but moments ago president trump made it clear that he hopes by seeing the cost-sharing subsidies go that it is time to make a deal on health care. >> what would be nice is if democratic leaders come to the white house and negotiate a deal good for everybody. that's what i like. but they are always a block vote against everything. they are obstructionist. i would say that democrats have come to me, i would even go to them, because i'm only interested in one thing, getting great health care for this country. >> let's take a deep dive on this now. i have with me cnn senior
economic analyst stephen moore who used to advise the trump campaign and david jolly former republican congressman from florida who used to be on the appropriations committee. david, do you think when you hear the president say that, that he wants democrats to basically read the writing on the wall and come negotiate with him, do you really think they are more likely to come to the table now? >> well i think that might suggest the president is more strategic than he typically is. i think legally he has footing on this. this is a member for the congress, not necessarily the wlous and federal district court decision to back that up. he may have legal footing but the problem with what he has done is there is no recognizable coherent strategy to what he has done with csrs. either for the construct of obamacare wlaen it means for repeal, repair and replace but also politically no coherent strategy. there is three constituencies who come out of obamacare.
those who saw reduction in cost, those who saw expansion in coverage through preexisting conditions and health benefits and those who lost, with increase in cost and none can look what the president has bun in the last 124 hours and see how they are better off by that move. >> steven, what do you think? >> that's not true. donald trump did something yesterday amazingly positive where he is basically allowing people, as you know, david, so get enrolled in associated health plans. trying to allow people to buy insurance across state lines so you get more competition. as we know, when you have more competition that lowers prices and the big problem with obamacare among others is there is so little competition. well over a third of counties in the united states with either one or zero insurance companies left. that's no competition at all. i do agree with david that there is a risk associated with this move by donald trump.
that when -- look, obamacare is falling apart financially. i was just in arizona a week or two ago, brianna. that's a state where insurance preems yu premiums have gone up, doubled, $5,000 or $6,000 year and no one can afford it. democrats may seize on this move by donald trump and say, aha, you see, donald trump is causing problems with obamacare. in fact, debated people on cnn who made exactly that point. so he is going to be, they say, oh, he is not providing funding for these insurance and therefore he is responsible for the failure but it is failing. what i hope, brianna, is that donald trump is ne he goene h ge deal with the democrats and you have to -- >> but david -- steven -- as an economist, and you reference what he did yesterday, if he is allowing people to go on short term plans, that are not privy
to these protections of preexisting conditions, and as an ekpon mist, how do you then cover the people that essentially those folks need to offset. you are talking about something broken. but isn't that just the president breaking it more quickly? >> see, this is the exact problem with obamacare. all of the sick people are signing up for health insurance under obamacare and healthy people more and more are dropping out. it is a classic case of what is called the dust viral in insurance. i worked at wall street journal for ten years at the time obamacare was being debated. we made this prediction. you will put the system into a dust spiral. this is great for consumers with what donald trump did yesterday. he will allow literally millions and millions of americans to buy lower cost and truly affordable health plans. you raise good point, brianna, what do we do about those people who have preexisting conditions? donald trump wants to take care of those people.
i want to take care of them. i have a niece with a preexisting condition. but you don't put them in the insurance pool with everybody else. have a separate program that provides funding. i think that's the solution but democrats don't want to do that. >> david, what do you think? >> here is the problem we face. i think steven would agree with this, health care is not a free market industry. it simply is not. in the case of what the president has done, he created better options and the right move for those who are healthier, looking for more choice in their plans. but if those people leave the exchange, and now you have the high-cost individuals in the exchange and law requires that they still be given lower prices, the law requires that, then where do we make up the additional cost for those people? and it is actually on the mandatory side and through taxes. somebody has it pay for it. and those very healthy families that get to leave, and now they are in these new programs, their premiums might have gone down but the cost as taxpayers have
gone up. steven, maybe you could make that watch, i can't. >> david, you make a good point here. and remember, brianna, i remember this like it was yesterday, barack obama said, i promise you that this plan will not cost a dime. that it'll not increase the deficit a dime. here they are back asking for $10 billion or $12 billion this year to bailout insurance companies. next year, $15 billion. we got to fix the system, brianna. >> these subsidies have to be delivered. >> they do. >> so if the federal government isn't footing the bill, doesn't the insurance company pass that on to middle income americans and they are the ones paying for it to considerable expense and hardship? >> but look, you could -- a lot of people even on exchanges, if you allowed them to buy for example health savings accounts, catastrophic coverage, it would cost about half -- the problem with obamacare is it requires people to buy expensive
insurance. i ran into a woman the other day, brianna, 55 years old, she said, look, why do i have to buy maternity benefits. i just want insurance that covers me for my protections. i don't want to buy drug abuse coverage. i want it bto buy the package t is good for my family, pli childr my children, pli wimy wife, myself. not plans that cover other people. >> sorry, i really want your perspective on this. republicans were so mad at president obama for using them. and who else was donald trump, remember this tweet from 2012 or certainly this sentiment where he said why is obama constantly issuing executive orders are major grabs power of authority. hypocritical? now you have president trump who has taken quite a liking to this. how do you square that circle? >> go ahead, david. >> yeah, david. >> i was going to say for the large part it is complete
blasabla blatant 1,000% hypocrisy. now republican answers donald trump are using executive orders. there is one area where donald trump could be given lee way and it is unwinding executive orders that the courts have said were overwraeched by president obama. federal courts said his executive actions on immigration were overreached. they said his executive action on csrs in this case were overreach ppd overreach. so that's where the president is unwinding them. i don't know if that case of executive action is extra constitutional if you will. it is going back to the constitutional requirement of the congress. >> but steve -- >> i don't think the president is sophisticated enough to understand there are some that are are okay and some that aren't. >> we just heard from the kaiser reporter who covered everything. she is got-to person on this. she says there are going to be lawsuits and they will have legal standing. so what do you think about that considering that this may be extra constitutional. >> i'm an constitutional scholar
or lawyer, thank god. so i can't give you a good answer for whether they can win the lawsuits or not. but as you know, brianna, there were a lot of lawsuits against the executive actions that barack obama took. and i'm not defending it. i don't like government by executive action. as a con sefbtive who believes in the separate of powers, it is not a good way to do business. but on one hand, you know, if the democrats come in and do everything through executive action, then have you a democratic congress that says no to everything barack obama -- i mean, that trump wants to do, are we just going to unilaterally disarm ourselves as conservatives and just allow democrats and chuck schumer to block everything? i don't like this form of governance. i'm not so sure what other choice donald trump has right now. >> all right, steve and david, gentlemen, thank you so much. we certainly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> the las vegas sheriff pushing back against accusations of incompetence tense in an emotionally charged news conference. we will take you there live to explain how they are are clarifying the time line in the
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moments ago in las vegas, clearly emotional and also defensive sheriff updating the investigation into the shooting massacre and what's been a changing time line for a few days. he told reporters he is not attempting to hide anything. >> it's important that you continue to listen to me. 9:59 is important. it wasn't inaccurate when i provided it to you. the circumstances associated with it is inaccurate. okay? there is no conspiracy.
between the fbi, between lvmpd and mgm. nobody is attempting to hide anything reference this investigation. the dynamics and the size of this investigation requires us to go through voluminous amounts of information in order to draw an accurate picture. my attempt, like i stated earlier, is to give you information as i know it unverified to calm the public. not to establish a legal case. everybody understand that? no questions, sir. >> i want to bring in cnn correspondent scott mclane. you have been covering this story for sometime in las veg he as, scott. what was your reaction it this press conference and just the tone from the sheriff. >> brianna, i think a lot of people were struck by just how defensive the sheriff was over
this investigation saying he was offended frankly by any suggestion of inskpe tense but reality is there have been contradictions and changes to the official time line. officially people says the security guard at mandalay bay first to spot trouble was shot by the suspect after he had already fired on the crowd. and earlier this week the sheriff said that he was actually shot a clear six minutes before the suspect ever started firing at the crowd. the sheriff said that was a minute change but it made a very significant difference to the time line here. today he is revising it again after mgm, owner of mandalay bay came out last night saying they believe that campos was shot within a minute of the suspect firing on the crowd. today the sheriff agreed with mgm saying that 9:59 number is not when campos was shot but when he tried to get on the 32nd floor where this was all taking place. he couldn't get on the floor because the suspect had
barricaded the door from the stairwell so he today go up to a different floor and come down a different way. so there have been big changes here brianna and the sheriff warned again that even what he told reporters today may still change in the future. >> yeah. he did warn that today. scott mclane thank you so much for that report. next, he he is already under scrutiny for his travel hibity, so why is the secretary zinenke making waves with a flag? it is raised when he comes in and lowered when he leaves.
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in washington. renee marsh is our cnn regulation correspondent. so tell us about this flag, renee. and specifically when this flag is flown. >> so, i can tell you, it is a military ritual. i spoke with people at interior department who have been working there for a pretty long time and they say they don't actually recall ever seeing this happen at the agency before. now, according to washington post which first reported this, a security staffer actually takes an elevator to the seventh floor on the interior department and then climbs the stairs to the top of the building to the roof to raise a special flag whenever the interior secretary, ryan zinke, enters the building. and when zinke goes home or travels, the flag which is blue, a blue banner and also has the agency's seal with seven white stars, it comes down when he is not there. and when zinke also isn't around, the same sort of ritual
happens for his deputy secretary but using a totally different flag. a spokeswoman for zinke told the paper he is a former navy seal commander and says that this is a navy flag flying tradition that spokeswoman said it is a major, and i'm quoting, a major sign of transparency. but again, rihanna, this is just another interesting tidbit, associated with zinke, if you remember, he actually arrived at work on the interior department on horse back. >> on a horse wab yeah. >> he certainly has some panache, right? he is also looked at, right, because of his travel? >> right. so on the serious side, zinke has mixed official business with political activity and visits home. and it is raising questions about the appropriateness of the trips and whether any ethics rules or for that matter federal
laws have been violated. zinke's travel is now under scrutiny and under investigation, we should add, by both the office of special council as well as departments of the inspector general. we have been looking through his schedule which we now have detailed accounts of his day-to-day and some of the meetings that he took and we saw one entry where it says just weeks after he officially became interior secretary he traveled on march 30th to the u.s. virgin islands for official business. he attended a series of meetings with government officials there but also attended a republican party fund-raiser. tickets were anywhere between $75 to $5,000 an then in may he tacked on a political event to multiday trip in eye las ka. so what lot of the watch dogs are asking is, you know, is he using official business to subsidize these sort of political activity. the question is, we don't know if there is any wrongdoing that point. but it is certainly something
that is under investigation. >> all right, we know you will keep digging on that. thank you so much. next, rapid down fall of harvey weinstein. another accuser coming forward saying she is raped by the hollywood mogul. legal walls closing in. and how it is changing the conversation when it comes to sexual harassment. ing we all tht as we head into retirement. it's why brighthouse financial is committed to help protect what you've earned and ensure it lasts. introducing shield annuities, a line of products that allow you to take advantage of growth opportunities. while maintaining a level of protection in down markets. so you can head into retirement with confidence. talk with your advisor about shield annuities from brighthouse financial established by metlife. wemost familiar companies,'s but we make more than our name suggests.
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mcgowan. now the fourth woman to come forward and publicly accuse weinstein of rape. mcyou mcgowan was one of several keeping quiet. hadass, this has been explosive, but i think a lot of people also look at this and they say, you know, hollywood's had this gross reputation for quote unquote casting couch behavior but it seems like now maybe something is kind of changed with that. how is this scandal changing the way people are talking about sexual harassment. >> yeah, of course. and it is this scandal and also the scandals we have seen in the past few years for example with roger ailes and with others. what is changing is women coming forward and not being afraid to tell their stories and not afraid to stand up. and i really think what the key is, with the harvey weinstein story, with the roger ailes stories is that you have
powerful women, women with deep pockets and own reputationes who came forward and said, yes, that happened to me as well. then you see the avalanche coming. women know they are not alone, not the only ones that this happened to. a lot of times the women feel these women were early in their careers. in their early 20s trying to break in as actresses. they didn't have the money and often times ate settlement would not keep them from being ostracized in the community. what we're seeing now these powerful women are coming forward but these companies are finding these things are hurting their bottom lines. i think that's really important here. the weinstein company, reporting was just out this morning from "the wall street journal," it might even be dissolving now because of this. >> you know, you make that point, and i think that lends some credibility that you have women certainly who are well-known, they're seen as credible, they have some power,
but compared to harvey weinstein, especially back in the day, as you note, they didn't. so we're seeing this avalanche now, but it's just -- it's so interesting that it really takes this, right? even when you're looking at people who you think, oh, man, they're so accomplished. so what happens if there is a situation where you don't necessarily have this critical mass like we've seen with harvey weinstein or like we've seen in the alleged crimes bill cosby committed? >> i do think that we are seeing a cultural shift. it's not massive quite yet because as we've seen it does take these powerful women, these well-known people and a group of them to come forward, but there is a cultural shift where this is just not the way business is done in hollywood or the way business is done in the media. we are seeing a change across the board. just recently, amazon suspended an executive for making inappropriate comments to another producer, alleged inprim comments. and what we're seeing is some sort of change.
it's not clear yet if an unknown woman would come forward with an allegation against another high-powered executive whether we would see the same sort of avalanche, but we're starting to see people are believing these women noer and more and not just accepting it as the status quo. >> yeah, it's really fascinating that maybe we are at this sea change on the issue or maybe an inflection point on the issue when it comes to sexual harassment and what behavior is unacceptable. thank you. really appreciate it. still ahead, president trump is taking steps to dismantle two of president obama's signature achievement, obamacare and the iran deal. we're going to speak live to a senator about where congress takes it from here.
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firefighters. 12 off-duty firefighters were shot during the rampage, some while they were helping victims. stephanie elam has the story of two firefighters who were at the concert enjoying the music with their wives. it's what's they did next that went beyond the call of duty. >> jason aldean stopped playing, ran off stage and that's really when it hit us. >> reporter: travis holdman is enjoying the end of the three-day country music festival on the vegas strip with his wife hailey when he thinks he hears fireworks. >> it was nonstop popping sounds. gunfire. >> reporter: jesse gomez, another off duty firefighter is also there with his wife debbie. both firefighters usher their wives to safety. >> i was in hysterics. absolute hysterics. just screaming, like, why did he go back? why did he go back.
>> reporter: an n. an instant, jesse and travis transitioned from concertgoers to first responders. >> there was a lady on the ground and she was bleeding all over from the head and face. we just picked her up and we carried her to the other side. me and a couple of strangles. >> reporter: as bullets continue to fly, the concert venue is chaotic. >> people on the ground. people hurt. people running around. people deceased and other people lying with them. >> reporter: travis uses his belt to make a tourniquet for a man shot in the leg and carries him to the medical tent. >> three shots skipped out five or ten feet in front of my feet across the pavement. >> reporter: with a makeshift team, jesse continues to pull people to safety. >> i might have carried, like physically carried six to ten. >> reporter: of the several people travis rescues, the most concerning is a woman shot in the lower back. >> her feeling in her legs were really touch and go at times.
>> was she by herself? >> at this time, yeah. >> reporter: that young woman is riley. he rides with her to the hospital. he gets updates on her progress, like when she stands for the first time. >> i cry about every single time i say this, but it's not because i'm sad, it's because i'm so, so proud of her for being that strong. >> some people were heros and some people needed a hero, and that's okay. >> reporter: two men acting with such humanity in the face of utter depravity as 58 lives were lost and hundreds were injured in the 1, october matt kerr. stephanie elam, cnn, las vegas, nevada. >> and as we learned today, 45 people still in the hospital. some of them in critical condition. but with a fighting chance because of so many first responders like those firefighters there in stephanie elam's report. and "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now.
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