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yankees runner out at the plate. but the biggest highlight of the night, four hits and ten strikeouts. the cubs taking on the dodgers. first pitch is at 8:08 eastern time. >> all right. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. >> sure. >> we're very unhappy with iran. they have not treated us with the kind of respect that they should be be treating. >> iran is not in material breach of the agreement. >> here in the mountains of central puerto rico many residents say they're settling in to the reality that a normal day isn't even a flicker of light at the end of the tunnel yet. >> we're going to have great health care in our country. >> i think what the president did with respect to suspending obamacare was the right thing to do. >> fix it, mend it, don't end
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it. >> reince priebus to be interviewed. >> he's really a central witness particularly on everything related to obstruction of justice. >> nearly 8,000 firefighters still working around the clock. >> she's disabled. >> let me get her feet. >> there's a house on fire. >> you've got to get her up. >> sir, you've got to go. >> this is "new day" weekend with victor blackwell and christy paul. >> nine months now after taking off president trump is continuing to try to erase part of his predecessor's key legacy elements and despite the advice of his own cabinet he says iran is no longer in compliance with the nuclear deal negotiated by the obama administration. here's what the president had to say.
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>> they would love me to stay if only for one reason. look at the kind of money that's being sent. you know, iran is spending money in various countries. and i've always said it and i say to them, don't do anything, don't worry about it, take all the money you can get. nay ear all friends of mine. actually emmanuel called up and he talked to me and i said look, they just gave a lot of money. take their money, enjoy yourselves, but we'll see what happens. iran has to behave much differently. >> well, president trump is also tearing into parts of president obama's signature health care law ordering an end to government subsidies that help the poor buy health insurance. also we're learning reince priebus met with the team investigating the alleged russian meddling in the election. the former white house chief of staff is one of several former and current staffers the special counsel's office is
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interviewing. >> what is next for the iran deal now? >> good morning. yeah, the president has long promised it's the days of the campaign to tear up the nuclear deal with iran and though he has twice certified it he isn't exactly torn it up even knnow. lawmakers have 60 days to figure out how they want to handle this nuclear deal, whether they want to reinstall sanctions when the deal was made or if they want to modify them to include triggers for like iran testing ballistic missiles or if they want to do nothing. you've heard several officials within the administration saying that iran technically hasn't violated the deal, but the president has made the case that iran has violated the spirit of the deal by testing missiles also by funding of terrorist groups. he prefers a two-step process. in other words, he prefers congress having some role in this decision but ultimately he
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has said again and again that if they do not act he will tear up one of the signature landmarks of his predecessor's foreign policy. >> all right. so let's now go to reince priebus and his interview with investigato investigators. what does this mean for the russia investigation? >> this is essentially just another step in mueller's investigation. they are interviewing as you said current and former officials at the white house including former press secretary sean spicer, hope hicks and others. what we've heard from sources is that robert mueller's team is essentially trying to find out the circumstances surrounding the dismissal of michael flynn as well as the firing of former fbi director james comey. one force actually telling cnn that they were interested in a meeting that donald trump had with russian officials shortly after comey was fired in which he apparently bragged about having fired comey saying that it took pressure off of his administration.
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>> all right. thank you. we're going to bring in stoo steven colinson. i want to read something to you. this is new this morning. he said you cannot publicly castrate your own secretary of state without giving yourself that binary choice. that binary choice being the u.s. choosing between war or north korea or on iran that's capable of threatening the u.s. with nuclear weapons. so steven, it's pretty strong language coming from the man who is essentially tasked with working with the white house to come up with a remedy here. >> that's right. bob corker is going to be a key player in deciding what happens to the iran deal in congress and you can see now that he has said that he's not running for re-election he has no compunction about being deeply critical of the president. what he's talking about there is i think the president's tweet while rex tillerson was in asia
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saying that diplomacy with north korea wouldn't work. and it's an interesting comment because what he's expanding on is that remark he made in an interview to the new york times that the president could cause world war iii. what he's arguing is it would be wrong to cut off the option of diplomacy in dealing with north korea because then you get into an escalating situation where military force becomes the only option. it was like president kennedy after the cuban missile crisis said that what you have to do in these situations is to create a situation whereby your opponent doesn't have a choice between humiliating climbdown and a nuclear war and i think that is what the senator corker is trying to argue here is that while the president makes threats of military action over the nuclear program, the diplomatic option should be kept
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open. >> kelly jane, a lot of people agree with the president on one thing, that there is nefarious intent in iran. they are testing missiles. they are funding terrorism. however, you've got the iaea the s secretary of state tillerson, andme mattis saying iran is complying with the parameters of this deal. aren't we talking atz the end of the day about two different issues? how do you confront iran on terrorism without having to touch this deal? >> it is two separate issues but they are related and first of all, we actually don't know if i iran is in compliance at all. leaders in iran have said that their military sites are off limits, nobody can look there and the iaea won't check unless it has evidence that there is a reason to do so. sort of probable cause and nobody is -- it's unclear what evidence they would need to do that and so they haven't checked so we really don't know for
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certain whether iran is in compliance. but there are two issues and this is how i think they're related. the pursuit of a nuclear weapon is not the worst thing it's doing right now. it's creating human rights abuses in its own country and other countries. the reason that the deal matters is that it allows the regime to get more money to commit those abuses. we've got the sanctions relief. we've got money that came to them -- unfrozen assets and they are using that money to harm their own people and they're using it in syria for example, to help extend the civil war there. >> i whatnant to move quickly t reince priebus as he was interviewed or had a meeting with mueller and his investigating team. what do you make of where this is going at this stage of the game? are they close to maybe ending this investigation and coming up with some answers? >> i don't think they're necessarily close to ending the investigation, but you can --
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it's clear that this investigation by bob mueller is grinding on behind the scenes while all these other things are going on. priebus of course is going to be a key witness as mueller probes the question of whether the firing of james comey, the former fbi director was an example of obstruction of justice by the president hoping to shut down the russia probe. so that's why -- one of the reasons why he's such a key player in this. >> your thought? >> what i think is interesting is that you know, reince priebus and donald trump had lunch in the white house on october 5th. that was just a week and a half ago. and you kind of wonder what -- about the timing there. what did they talk about? nobody said what they talked about and i'm curious if this investigation came up. you know, i will say the people on mueller's team, they have got to be some of the few people in washington that aren't leaking everything that they're doing. >> good point. good point there. so good to see you both this morning. thank you. >> thank you.
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there's this shocking new claim today by that family freed from militant activity in pakistan. joshua boyle who's canadian along with his american wife and their three children, all of them were born in captivity. they arrived in canada last night safely. boyle told reports in toronto, his kidnappers authorized the killing of one of his children and that they also raped his wife. >> the stupidity and the evil of the networks kidnapping of a pilgrim and his heavily pregnant wife engaged in helping ordinary villagers in taliban controlled regions in afghanistan was eclipsed only by the stupidity and eefl of authorizing the murder of my infant daughter. >> we want to be clear with what we know. while boyle said that murder of his infant daughter was authorized he didn't say whether a death actually occurred. still to come, the conditions in puerto rico. they're getting worse by the day
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and there are still so many people without power, without food, without clean running water. there's a nurse helping out there and she's witnessed the devastation up close. what she's seeing there versus what the trump administration says is happening there. that's next. >> also, iran is lashing back at president trump after he puts the future of that nuclear deal in doubt we were just talking about. we're going live to iran for new reaction this morning. and the dramatic new video of a deputy, what they call five minutes in hell. dra k california first responders are trying to get through the flames and the ash searching for survivors. we're going to show it to you. >> she's disabled. >> let me get her feet. >> her husband is right behind you. >> we're doing a krcarry youth. >> ready? >> hold out.
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hurricane maria and look at what the people in puerto rico are still dealing with. we know 45 people have died as a result of that storm and there is belief that that number could keep rising. 91% of that island, three weeks later still doesn't have power. and more than 1.2 million people don't have safe drinking water. i cannot imagine living like that that long. >> and the recovery will go on for some time. the question is is it keeping pace with what it should have at this point. this is happening as the president touts that the administration has done a great job with recovery efforts. joining us now to discuss that, president of the federation of teachers and a registered nurse assisting in puerto rico. ladies, hello to you. thank you for being with us and there's no doubt that the workers there are doing amazing work, working hour after hour to try to help the people there. we've got some pictures of some of the living conditions that the workers are seeing.
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you see the mold infested rooms and some people don't have any rooms at all because their homes have been destroyed. but the question to you, is what you're seeing on the ground matching the rhetoric from the president? >> absolutely not. many of the places we've been to, we're the first people to actually reach them. >> and when you reach them, what are you seeing? >> what' e we're seeing is peop in need. basic needs of food, shelter, medicine, water, we carry that with us when we go and set up clinics where we go and try to help people. we go in large teams with a doctor provider, our own pharmacy, and a lot of foods and water wherever we go. people are dying here. they're suffering here and that's not -- the true story is not being told.
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we see it every day. >> from what we're hearing from our reporters that these are day two conditions on day 22 as this continues. randy, let me come to you. thursday, the president tweeted that the federal government cannot stay in puerto rico forever and then yesterday another tweet saying that fema will be there and the country will be with them for the long haul and this is what speaker paul ryan had to say. >> this is something that we're all invested together. we've been working on puerto rico legislation for a few years now and we've got a lot more to do to make sure that we can invest in the long haul to make sure that the puerto rico economy is strong, that the government is financed and self-sufficient. >> one day it's can't stay forever, the next day it's there for the long haul. what's the impact you believe with these inconsistencies? >> well, you know -- well, first
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off, most puerto ricans don't have electricity so the only way they're getting any information whatsoever is through the radio. people are going into cars to try to -- try to get some electricity so that they can have some smartphones. when -- we are going out into the country side. i'm here, victor, in two capacities. one, we're the second largest nurse union and 30 of our nurses are part of the 300 labor unionists that came down to help over the last two weeks and two, we our affiliate is the teacher's union here, so what we're doing is we're going to all these different villages. we're delivering 1,000 meals and going with some of the nurses to do some ambulatory care because people haven't seen anyone from fema yet. i'm not saying that fema isn't working hard. i saw lots of people yesterday,
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they are exhausted. but this needs a marshall plan. that is what representative ryan should have said yesterday. just like we did a plan in europe after world war ii, this is our country. these are our citizens. we need a marshall plan and when you do that we can regenerate, rebuild the economy here. that's what the teachers are doing, that's what the nurses are doing and frankly i'm here this weekend to cry for help because that's what we need in puerto rico. that's what we need in this territory. >> let me get back to you. there are members of this administration who have dismissed the calls from the mayor of san juan and some of her criticism saying it's simply politics. i'd be remiss if i didn't acknowledge that your group endorsed hillary clinton in the general election. what role do you believe if there is one of politics in this exchange in the criticisms of the administration?
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>> i've been -- there's several natural disasters that have happened. this summer and fall. california voted for hillary clinton. texas voted for donald trump. florida voted for donald trump. puerto rico don't get an electoral vote. this should not be about politics. this is about people. a president of the united states has an obligation to safeguard the people of his country. that's what this should be. and you know, we've had teamsters and building trades workers on this trip who may have voted for donald trump. what they are seeing is that the people are not getting the emergency services we need. so it's time to put politics aside, put people first and do the things we need to do to safeguard the people of the united states of america. virgin islands, puerto rico, and california and texas and florida.
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that is our responsibility as americans. >> all right. thank you so much for being with us and thank you for the work you're doing there in puerto rico. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. all right. rogue behavior. that's how iran is describing president trump's refusal to recertify the nuclear agreement. >> and this is from northern california. huge fires are wiping out parts of wine country. the deputies driving through the fire and the ash looking for anyone who survived it. millions of us suffer from the symptoms of dry eye. theratears® unique electrolyte formula, corrects the salt imbalance that causes dry eye. so your eyes will thank you. more than eye drops, dry eye therapy. theratears®. our guests can earn a free night when they book at choicehotels.com and stay with us just two times? fall time. badda book. badda boom. pumpkin spice cookie?
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agreement is getting criticism from key u.s. allies and this morning iran is slamming president trump after he put the future of the nuclear deal in doubt. senior correspondent is live for us in teheran. what are you hearing from the government there? >> yeah, good morning. certainly a lot of very strong words coming from the president of iran but also from other iranian government agencies as well. the president of iran yesterday came out in a fiery speech shortly after president trump made his remarks and accused him of not understanding the nuclear agreement saying that the u.s. can't unilaterally pull out and he believed it was the u.s. destabilizing this region and the iranians would for instance, not give up their ballistic missile program. one of the things they're also saying is that they will stay on their current path. there's a statement that came out earlier today. they say the transfer of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of arms into the region
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have turned the region into a tinderbox require the islamic republic of iran not to be complacent about the country's defense needs and then it goes on to say the president will have to bear full responsibility for all the consequences of what they call his rogue behavior. so certainly some very strong words there coming from the irania iranians. it looks to us as though two factions that have been quite divided here in this country. the moderates and the hard liners seem to be uniting so if president was trying to push them apart it seems like the opposite is happening here in iran. >> all right. appreciate the update. thank you. and i want to remind you exactly why the iran deal was struck many the first place here. just to get the back story. it was signed in 2015 by iran. the eu and five world powers. the u.s., uk, russia, france, china and germany. it lifted economic sanctions on iran and in return for iran
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scaling back the nuclear program keeping it levels of enrichment at 3.67% and allowing inspection of nuclear facilities. if i iran does not stick to the deal, sanctions will be reinstated per that deal. >> let's continue the conversation now with former obama white house communications and georgia republican congressman. good morning to you. >> let me start with you and i want to read with you a response and reaction from the former secretary of state, one of the chief negotiators of the iran deal. he says in part unravel this agreement while iran is complying and you will call into question whether a country can keep it word making it infinitely harder to reach agreement on other international challenges. that's a recipe for america on their own and the middle east on the brink.
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what's your understanding of that? >> i understand where secretary kerry is coming from. but he's one of the authors of this agreement. under this agreement they have the plutonium producing heavy water reactor, they have not allowed full access to the inspectors and so i think what president trump has done is he said listen, there's a way to split the baby, i'm going to throw this back to congress and i'm going to bring in the fact that they're doing other activities outside this agreement that are harmful not just to the region but to the world. terrorism and going into yemen and backing assad in syria and pursuing ballistic missiles. all of those things are of great concern to the world and i think what trump has said is look, we're going to look at sanctions for the islamic revolutionary guard. we are going to look at potential sanctions about these other activities but we're also going to make sure that the atom -- international atomic agency has access to the military sites and anywhere else
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that they need to go to make sure iran is not pursuing all these nukes. >> this was a deal specifically about the potential for iran to get a nuclear weapon, but i don't know even any of the people who support this deal who say that this was perfect. can it be improved and through this process? >> you're absolutely right. and no diplomatic negotiation results in a perfect outcome for either side and certainly we could have addressed ballistic missiles we would have. but the big question here i should say is whether we're better off with or without the deal. and before the deal, we had no visibility into what iran was doing, what activities were taking place on the ground. they were two months away from acquiring a bomb. now they're a year away and we know exactly what they're doing and we have an international monitors that were on the ground and able to see what they were doing. so i think the problem here is not whether we should be addressing ballistic missiles,
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whether we should be addressing human rights abuses. there are significant sanctions, severe sanctions in place to address exactly those issues. but whether we should keep the deal and ripping up the deal actually hurts our leverage on those other issues that we all agree we should be addressing. >> let me get to one of the elements that the president has been dissatisfied with and i understand this team of tom cotton and bob corker in the senate working on these sun set provisions in the 2030s there's some provisions that would suggest would expire. this is what president obama said about no provisions just to remind everyone. >> it is true that some of the limitations regarding iran's peaceful program last only 15 years. but that's how arms control agreements work. the first treaty with the soviet union lasted five years. the first start treaty lasted 15
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years. and in our current situation, if 15 or 20 years from now iran tries to build a bomb, this deal ensures that the united states will have better tools to detect it, a stronger basis under national law to respond and the same options available to stop a weapons program as we have today. including if necessary, military options. >> so what about that, the treaty back in the 70s, that one was five years. the start treaty was 15 years. isn't this just how this works? >> you know, if you look at what president clinton said in 1993, 1994 when he was negotiating the north korean agreement, which is very, very similar, in fact, eerie in terms of being so similar to the current agreement with iran, it was the same thing, that north korea would get out of the nuclear business
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as respects weapons. they would only pursue it for electricity for the good of the people. it would be wide open for anybody to come inspect and i think that's where we are with iran. we're fooling ourselves if we don't take a lesson learned in north korea. >> let me ask you this. so the lesson learned in north korea. what's the evidence that sanctions will work against iran? it didn't work before the nuclear deal. sanctions aren't working with north korea. none of this happens in a silo. is that not the lesson from the u.s. interactions with north korea that sanctions won't work? >> well, i actually believe that sanctions were working which is why iran came to the table because these were sanctions, by the way, that were passed by the u.s. congress, not by the white house. they weren't the ones pushing. it was congress that was pushing the sanctions and i think they had a huge role in it. but i think going back now and saying we're going to put on some sanctions as respect the pursuit of ballistic missiles and your backing of assad in
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syria, but we're very worried about the sunset provisions in this and so i think that what cotton is saying and corker and i believe it's going to be a bipartisan effort to say when these sunset provisions expire, you will have already had access to nuclear weapons or nuclear devices and the international atomic energy agency has said, we can't confirm that they're not pursuing nuclear devices right now, i think all that is very scary so i believe that's why i think throwing it bah k to capitol and one thing jen had said he's not tearing up this bill. >> he is not tearing up the bill. >> he would have done that yesterday. >> et will's remind people if we have that sound bite of what the candidate said. >> this deal will be a totally different deal. my number one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with iran.
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i'll make it much, much better. i will renegotiate that deal. >> yet, this is not that, jen. what's your degree of confident that congress will come to some consensus on what to do moving forward? >> well, first it's important to note that trump also said yesterday that if congress did not act he left open the option to unilaterally remove the united states from the deal. so that is the same as ripping up the deal. what congress is talking about now, what corker is talking about is putting a bill in place that would actually violate the terms of the deal because it would put new sanctions in place. that means the united states would be the outliar from the rest of the world. from europe, from china, from russia, from iran and as john kerry said in his statement why would we be trusted to negotiate deals in the future but it also leaves us in the place where we would be violating the deal and we would be the ones destroying the nuclear deal. i don't think that's the place where we want to be in the world. >> all right. thank you so much for being part
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because of all the lights concentrated on me, but it is still an active situation. we had a helicopter pass over our head in the past five minutes or so. the air quality, part of the reason i'm wearing the mask. there's just ash everywhere and it rains down upon you. we also wanted to show you the video of us with firefighters yesterday. they are battling this. we talked to them, a lot of them very young and they are very ready to go fight the fires. one guy telling me, look, we've been fighting for four days. we want to be here, we want to be the guys who knock out one of these fires. so we got up close to them, talking to them about the idea that they wanted to be there. one man was telling us he was a firefighter for 31 years and he was happy to be back working with the guys and the reason why they're all pushing so hard is because they want to stop scenes just like this behind me. when you look here you get a chance to see the destruction that has been left behind. this was an entire neighborhood on a mountainside, just a gorgeous view, but unfortunately
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this is what's been left behind. and when you think about today, the wind that is still picking up here, there have been some strong wasn'tinds. we of course are watching out for each other. my producer, my photographer, but you realize it's going to be a very long day. >> a very long week. thanks so much. well, after major losses on health care, congress now looks to pass tax reform. republicans say it's going to help the middle class. can they get it done this year though? we're going to ask one of those republican congressmen right after the break. stay close. parodontax, the toothpaste that helps prevent bleeding gums. if you spit blood when you brush or floss you may have gum problems and could be on the journey to much worse. help stop the journey of gum disease. try parodontax toothpaste. it's clinically proven to remove plaque,
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president trump now facing criticism from members of his own party for ending government subsidies that help low income people. inmove means congress is scrambling to figure out how and if they're going be able to replace those critical funds. a member of the house budget committee joins us now. thank you for being with us. >> thank you very much. good morning. >> thank you. does congress have a plan to help those lower income families? >> yes, i mean many of us are
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part of the problem solvers caucus in the house and the senate. and what we're trying to do is make sure that we can fund those subsidies but also make some fundamental reforms in the affordable care act that will help small business provide lower cost health insurance for their employees. it's critical to note that the subsidies under affordable care act were ruled illegal because president trump and his administration had moved money in a way that was not constitutional. so president trump's move in cutting off these subsidies, is a little more complicated than what the democrats are representing because congress does have to appropriate these funds. it had not previously done that. it's incumbent on us to fix these problems. and but also of the group i'm a part of, we want to make other changes that will make health
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insurance affordable particularly for small business. >> i want to talk about something the president just tweeted. he said very proud of my executive order that will allow greatly expanded health care. millions of people benefit. but by eliminating the subsidies to help lower income families, unless congress does something, they're going be left in the dark. so how is this benefitting them? >> well, again, these are two different things, two different groups of people we're talking about. the subsidies, the so-called csrs that the president caught off funding for, that has to be appropriated by congress, and that goes to certain people who are low income. what the president's executive order does is attempts to res rect something called so-called health plans, allowing groups to band together. that's something the affordable care act eliminated unwisely in
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my view. and we need to allow those association health plans to come forward. all one size does not fit all either in shoes or health insurance. so the president is trying to spur the association health plans, bring those back to life. i think that's a good thing. but at the same time we should take care of the subsidies that go for lower income people so that taik afford the premiums and deductibles. >> so how do you do that? where does that money come from? >> well, congress has to appropriate it. it's something that the congress has been -- that money has been spent by the federal government over the last number of years. so the money is in the budget, but we have to specifically appropriate that money because, again, president obama's action was ruled unconstitutional and illegal. >> you're right. it was by a federal court. i just have a minute here left, and i do want to get to one thing. i want to come to tax reform because i know you're looking
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forward to that on the itinerary as well. you spoke to cnbc a couple weeks ago and said this. we shouldn't have double taxation. the amount people pay to their state, their local school districts, shouldn't be subject to federal taxation. how is this bill being proposed now going to be the big win if people are being double taxed? >> well, what we have to do is we have to fill in the blanks. the framework which a lot of people are operating off now leaves many details unanswered. many states like california, illinois, new jersey are concerned because we have high tax states. and our folks are concerned because of the deducting the costs especially property taxes. we're working with kevin brady and other leaders in the congress to try to accommodate our states have. because right now there are more questions and answers on the tax
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bill. but we do need tax reform because we need to -- >> do you think you can get it done this year? >> i think we can, and frankly, i want us to get it done because we've got to make sure that when 2018 comes, people are able to start lowering their taxes in january. and that's the critical thing. >> republican representative john faso from new york, we appreciate your time. thank you, congressman. >> thank you very much. >> sure, we'll be right back.
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