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politicians, i must tell you, that they wanted me to continue to pay this, i said, i'm not going to do it. this is money that goes to the insurance companies to line their pockets, to raise up their stock prices, and they have had a record run, an incredible run, and it is not appropriate. obamacare is a disaster. it's virtually dead as far as i'm concerned, it really is dead, and i predicted that a long time ago. it's a concept that doesn't work. and we are very close. we feel we have the votes. and as soon as we are finished with taxes, john, we really feel we have the votes to get block grants into the states where the states can much better manage this money and much better take care of the people. rather than the federal government, the state block grants, we'll do massive block grants into the various states so that the states can run the program. so we feel we have the votes, we're going to be doing that after the taxes. in the meantime, we're involved with a budget and then after the budget hopefully that gets approved. and after the budget, assuming
we have the support of all the republicans because we'll have no support from the democrats or almost no support because they have really become just obstructionists. they have no good policies. and frankly, they are not good politicians but they are very good obstructionists. and that's what they do well, obstruct. the number of nominees that i have approved by the democrats are about half of what president obama had. and when you look at that, and you can look at judicial appointments, look how slow that's going, i'll have 145 ultimately, which is a tremendous number. we'll have 17 court of appeals, but they're not getting approved, they're being slow-walked by schumer and the group of democrats that really, it's really disgraceful. even people that they know, they're going to approve, they take it right out to the end. they use every single minute. and i think it's a very disgraceful situation. but obamacare is everything but dead. the people aren't going to take
it. they're not going to take it, alaska, they had over 200% increases and in arizona they were 116%. and i hear going up even higher. and the people aren't going to take that any longer. so we are in great shape. i think we have the votes. and we'll be doing that right after the largest tax cuts in the history of our country are approved. hopefully sometime in the very near future. >> reporter: so is graham/cassidy still the plan, anywhere. >> essentially, yes, block grants. >> reporter: with respect to the president, you said the potential for a donald trump presidency, quote, i hope we will not face this evil. and i'm wondering if after spending time with the president you have changed your mind or if you are of the same mind? >> i wish i knew that before my speech.
>> translator: the meeting i had with the president, his approach and the way he addresses -- the u.s. is a very strong power. and their ability to intervene for good are very, very important. i want to confirm that the meeting that we had was very productive. not a moment did i feel threatened at any time. i saw that there is a very fertile outlook here. in order to set aside any differences we may have to find the common ground, the common ground which is really important for the relationship between the two, our two peoples that are traditional and historical. and for our common objectives. we need common values. we have common values, excuse me, don't forget that. the value of democracy and
freedom was born of increase. and that's one of the values that traverses american culture and american tradition. the president today of the u.s. is -- continues this tradition. and i think our collaboration will be very substantial. and i'm very optimistic after the meeting we had today. >> i might just add that a number of countries were a little bit nervous at the beginning, and i have very good relationships with the leaders of virtually every country i have dealt with, but the reason they were concerned is because i will not allow our country, the united states of america, to be taken advantage of by so many other countries all over the world f. you lo world. if you look at our trade deficits, our massive trait deficits with every country. and you look at the jobs going out to certain countries, and the companies are leaving and firing the people and the product is made elsewhere, and
then it sold back to the united states, i'm not going to be allowing that. so i can understand how certain countries and the leaders of concern counted countries may feel. but we are not going to allow the united states to be taken advantage of by other countries. and there's nothing we can do about that. thank you. okay, you have a question. >> reporter: in meeting with the greek republic today, mr. prime minister, how do you plan to provide for foreign investments in greece? and based on the tax that greece is making to bureaucracy and taxation in order to ensure investors around the world that greece is strengthen for business. and mr. president, why would you encourage the u.s. companies to invest in greece? and how can the u.s. support the greek efforts to fully turn the page, attract investments and
manage it? thank you. >> translator: first of all, this is -- one thing is to intervene legislatively to attract investment. and it's different to work on a daily basis to implement these intentions in a stable environment. we opted to conflict with the basic illnesses of greek public administrati administration. and to create a friendly environment for foreign investment. because our investment means jobs, and jobs means less unemployment and it means return of young people that have left greece, educated greeks that have left greece to go out of the country and to come back to greece. so what did we do? we passed a law in parliament
that provides a stable tax environme environment, a fixed tax rate for 12 years for investments of high value. we simplified the procedures to provide licenses to investments. we introduced the fast track process for strategic investments. and we also made significant change to hit and combat bureaucracy through dangigitize procedures in public administration and our vision is to have a digital public administration that we really want to make practice. i personally have created a task force in the prime minister office for investments. so we can see whether laws are being implemented, whether there is effectiveness, and we are
sending out a strong signal of political will to promote these projects. the president asked me earlier what is happening with the old airport. where years ago he himself as a businessman in the past was interested in it. and he saw himself the weaknesses of dealing with greek public administration. i informed him it is moving on, it is moving along and very soon we'll see this area being formed to a very, very large real estate project in greece, which will be, we are hoping that it will be an attraction for other investments from abroad. i would like to also say that greece for the first time from the last country is the first country in absorbing european funds in investment capital from european structural funds. so we are finding ourselves at a turning point, a point where investments can provide the
ability to exit finally the crisis and the message that i want to pass on to u.s. investments is not that greece is just a tourist atrack in the world, but it is also an investment attraction and investment destination as well. >> i can say that we have a great confidence in greece. i think it's a land of tremendous potential. i know many people are looking to invest in greece. a lot of the problems are behind it. they have had some very good leadership. they have really done a lot of, they have made a lot of difficult decisions. we are helping, as you know, with a massive renovation of their air force and also of airplanes generally going to greece. they are looking at buying additional planes from boeing. and we are helping, we are very much involved with greece and with helping greece get back on its feet. we have a tremendous greek population in this country.
people whose heritage is greece. and we love that country, it's a special country, one of the most beautiful countries in the world. so i think it's got great potential. and we are helping it along. okay, jennifer, you want to go? >> reporter: thank you, mr. president. >> sure. >> reporter: i have a question for both of you, but let me start with you, mr. president. let me give you a quick question about the federal reserve. do you have any other candidates that you're looking at other than powell, yellen, the five that have already been named? are you looking at anyone besides those folks? >> i would say within those five you'll be getting the answer. and i'll be making the decision over the next fairly short period of time. >> reporter: can you say who is your favorite at this time? >> honestly, i like them all. i do, i have a great respect for all of them. but i'll make a decision over the next very short period of time. >> reporter: can i ask you a quick obamacare question, even though john roberts did as well? >> sure.
>> reporter: apparently lamar alexander said he made a decision with patty murray to stabilize obamacare. has the white house been involved in those negotiations? and will you support that deal? >> yes, we have been involved. and this is a short-term deal, because we think ultimately block grants going to the states is going to be the answer, that's a very good solution. we think it's going to not only save money but give people much better health care with a very, very much smaller premium spike. and you look at what's gone on with that. also, much lower deductible so they can use it. lamar has been working very, very hard with the democratic, his colleagues on the other side. and patty murray is one of them, in particular. and they're coming up and they're fairly close to a short-term solution. the solution will be about a year or two years. and it will get us over this intermediate hump. because we have, as you probably know, we have the votes or are very close to getting the votes, and we'll get the votes for having the potential of having
great health care in our country. so they are indeed working, but it is a short-term solution so that we don't have this very dangerous little period, including dangerous period for insurance companies, by the way, for a period of one year, two years, we'll have a very good solution. but we're going to have a great solution ultimately for health care. okay? and they are working together. and i know very much what they're doing, okay? thank you. >> reporter: thank you. and mr. prime minister, on turkey, do you still regard turkey as a democracy? and should turkey remain a member of nato? >> translator: i have to say despite our concerns regarding turkey, despite the concerns that are also based on the daily
interventi intervention, we continue to support the turkish course towards europe. we respect it as a regional power and believe it must stay oriented toward the european perspective, stay oriented to its collaboration with the west, and/or stay oriented to nato. with ebelieve that the european outlook and perspective of turkey can also be a lever of pressure so that there is -- we can have those reforms toward the democratization of the domestic of the country. so my answer to your question is relatively easy. yes, we do believe that turkey must remain within nato. and its european course. but on the other side, we have to ensure, and we want to make it clear to this ally of ours and to its government, that the
road to europe and this day and the collaboration with the west, brings with it certain conditions and responsibilities. one of the most necessary conditions is to respect international law, to collaborate and not promote tension with allied countries such as greece. this is our basic direction. and i do believe, i had the opportunity to go in detail on this matter with president trump, to explaining the need for the fulfillment of these conditions so there are clear messages. also, toward the turkish administration. >> reporter: thank you. mr. prime minister, how do you -- us greeks like to hear about the deal striking the importance of greece in the region, what is your government
planning to do to enhance this role and for the benefit of the bilateral relationship? and for specifically, are there any plans you have for it? and mr. president, you praised greece's role in nato with the contribution of the bay and within the eastern mediterranean, what is the potential of greece willing a pillar of stability in the region? and what will the u.s. like to see happening in order for greece to achieve this potential? thank you. >> well, i will start by saying that i think it has a great role in stability in the area. we have a feeling that it will get stronger and strong er, a very stable people has the potential, once it gets over
this tremendous financial hurdle that it's in the process of working out, we think that there will be great stability in greece. and militarily and in every way we look at it as very important and very important to the united states. we have great confidence in greece as a nation. we have great confidence in what they're doing relative to the military, because i know they have plans to do some terrific things. and we know they will be an ally for many, many years to come. you know, they have always been a very tree liabreliable ally. and we have always been reliable to them. so we look forward to that for many years. we are going to be friends for many, many years. and stability is very important. and we look upon that with respect to greece as being a key. okay? thank you. >> translator: in regards to the
initiatives of growth to be taken and also regarding the initiatives that we have taken to broaden the strategic role of greece as reliable partner, both to the eu and nato, i would like to say that from the first mome moment, we took over the administration, we moved, we proceeded to a new dogma. but it was basically to enhance the role of greece as a country that is a pillar of safe security and stability in a very sensitive and unstable area of the region. we enhanced the collaboration with two significant partners in the area of egypt and israel. and with greece, cypress and
israel and with other countries in the area such as jordan, lebanon. our goal is that through these multilateral collaborations to ensure the collaboration, stability, peace and joint growth in this area. of course, greece, for a number of years, has been playing as underlined earlier, it plays a very important role of reliable ally of the u.s. but it also has a unique different feature. greece may be talking with the arab world with other countries in the east, so it is not just a nato member, it's a useful ally for the united states of america. now, in regards to crete and suda bay, we all know it is a special strategic importance, and we evaluated it, jointly
evaluated it, and i think we are doing good work there. and it can and it must be upgraded, enhanced. >> thank you to the prime minister. he said, this is so beautiful. and i said, this is the rose garden. and i think even the media likes the rose garden. that's hard to believe, but even the media likes it. mr. prime minister, it's been a great honor having you, and we look forward to many, many years of friendship, working together, and keep up the good work. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. [ applause ] >> the president of the united states and the prime minister of greece wrapping up a press conference at the rose garden at the white house. as they wrapped up, we just got word that there is a deal in principle that will allow the obamacare health care subsidize to insurance companies to continue. the chairman of the house
committee lamar alexander, the ranking democrat, patty murray, their aides tell cnn there's an agreement in principle. and we just heard moments ago from president trump say he would support this deal. he said, it would be a short-term, for a short period of time, this deal would be for two years, but it in effect reverses the e tdecision he mad last friday to reverse subsidize to insurance companies because he said the companies were making too much money. lots to assess as a result of this news conference, but this is a significant development right now, gloria. bipartisan cooperation, a republican and a democrat working together forging this tentative deal. >> but just -- step back for a moment, look at the larger picture. the president says he's going to end the subsidize. end the subsidize and gets a lot of blow-black on it. in fact, a lot of people who would be affected, if you end these subsidize, are people at the lower end of the economic scale, many of them trump
voters, and he takes the political tax saying, it was just the insurance companies we're getting too much money. fast forward the republicans and democrats are trying to stop this from happening led by the two senators say they have come up with this in principle, now they still have to get co-sponsors, but the president today says, okay, that's fine. after he said that the insurance companies' profits were up too much, et cetera, etc. then in the end, he said they'll have the votes for his version of health care reform, what is called graham/cassidy. in fact, they don't have the votes for it yet. and we all know that. >> jeff zeleny is our chief white house correspondent. he's there for us. jeff, the president keeps saying he has the votes for what he wants, he clearly doesn't have the votes. if he had the votes, they would have passed the legislation. didn't have the votes, still doesn't have the votes, that's why presumably he's made this major decision to support at
least for the next two years what this compromise lamar alexander and patty murray legislation is all about. >> reporter: that's right, they do not have the votes. the republicans do not have the votes on their side of the senate or they would have passed it and moved it through. we, of course, know the house supported this version of health care, the senate did not. but by the president saying that he supported this short-term deal in principle between democrats and republicans, it's certainly a sign that he wants to move forward with this. he wants to get something done in health care. but wolf, it's so interesting here, he say os obamacare is dead, it's not coming back. the reality and worry here among the president's advisers is he will own the collapse of health care. that's something he's not eager to own in its entirety. he's blaming it on the predecessor, the obamacare legislature, but the reality is he and the republicans control
this. so that's one of the reasons he's supportive of this bipartisan move, wolf. but this is just the beginning of this. it certainly is not the end of he can. and health care. in terms of the votes, he hopes to move on after tax reform, but the reality of that is, wolf, that's many months away, likely, even though he said he would like to get some type of tax reform package done this calendar year. that's seen as a long shot by some republicans on capitol hill, wolf. >> yeah, they got to pass a budget first, then move on to tax reform. and clearly, they're not going to get anywhere near major repeal or replace efforts as far as obamacare, at least until the president's own advisers have told us, at least until march or april of next year. in the meantime, david gregory, this is a reversal for the president, only last friday he said he was ending those subsidize to insurance companies, because they are making way too much money. today he says he's going to support what lamar alexander and
patty murray have put forward, namely to continue the subsidize for the next two years. >> i suppose he would like the credit for sticking it to the insurance companyies see yeah executive order and to dismantle obamacare. in his mind obamacare is dead because of the executive actions he took because republicans couldn't get it done on capitol hill. but there's a striking thing about this that gets into health care policy, which no matter how you slice it, if you want universal health care, insurance companies have to get it taken care of. that's what the obama team understood. one way or the other, they have to get taken care of because they have to extend coverage to more people than they would rather not give coverage to, they have to give it to everybody, and they only do that if young and healthy people take up insurance, buy insurance to drive up profits to give it to people with pre-existing conditions. and trump, even through block grants, wants pre-existing conditions to be taken care of. so there's a lot he still wants to be on the right side of when it comes to universal health care, but for now he wants to be
the one who is taking on the insurance companies. the stuff just doesn't add up yet. >> what is your analysis? >> let's not forget what the strategy was behind ending the payments last week. and they were pretty transparent about this. he talked about it being a bailout for the insurance companies, but he also said i'm going to end these payments. and then the democrats have to come to me and cut a deal. to improve health care because obamacare will fail. now it seems like he's agreed to continue the payments for another two years. if he thought that democrats had any incentive to cut that kind of deal with him, it would be gone now because the payments are going to continue. and it's not totally clear to me either whether he's on the same page with a lot of senior administration officials we have talked to in the last few days, weeks leading up to the announcement to cut off the payments, they have said in order to continue the payments, we'll need to get something. that's either going to be an end to the individual mandate that david talked about, an end to the employer mandate for insurance, and it doesn't appear, i haven't seen the fine
print on this deal, but it seems very unlikely that patty murray and democrats would be agreeing to anything like that. so he seems to have gotten ahead of where the white house strategist was 24 to 48 hours ago. >> he clearly wants a deal, he wants to be able to say, yes, there's a deal, and maybe there will be a deal, it's by no means a done deal, there's still a lot of work to do. even as we talk, jim chute sciu there's word that carter page, the foreign policy adviser to the trump campaign has now been subpoenaed by the senate intelligence committee to testify. he had refused to testify. >> page has been a prominent figure in the coverage of the russian investigation since the beginning, although there are questions of how central a figure he actually was. certainly a very public supporter of the president, very public in his, if not support, his willingness to engage with
the russians, go to his speeches that criticized the u.s. foreign policy at the time. and you might even say exaggerated his own role in all this. he was very happy to be public and to be sbrinterviewed and no revealing too much. but he didn't accept voluntary requests for him to come forward, so the senate intelligence committee is doing what it said it would do with others who did not take their request to come voluntarily, they are subpoenaing him. it doesn't mean he's a central figure, but they have reasonable questions to ask him and bring him forward. >> we'll see if he testifies or pleads the fifth or whatever he wants to do. there's other news, john mccain has just responded, just responded to the president. last night john mccain gave a very important speech making it clear he disagrees with the president. earlier today the president said, be careful, this is what he was referring to, senator mccain, be careful because at some point i fight back. and now john mccain has just said this -- >> reporter: let's start with
the senator rand paul on the budget going against the budget reform. does he not understand the bill? why is he pushing against this? >> i don't know. i don't pay any attention to senator paul. >> reporter: he and senator graham seem to be having a disagreement with the understanding of what is in the bill. >> you'll have to ask them. >> reporter: okay. let's go to your speech last night. >> okay. >> reporter: were you trying to -- were you addressing the president or bannon or the group in total? >> i think that what is clear is what i was talking about as an environment here of nonproductivity of a version to the attitude of the '30s, which was one of the major reasons why we fought world war ii. >> reporter: and then with regard to -- i'm lureluctant to bring it up but with regard to what the president said about john kelly and his son and president obama not addressing
the senate, you served in the armed forces. >> frankly, i don't know what to think about that. i think that our first objective has to be to honor the service and sacrifice of these young people who have given their lives. >> reporter: can i ask a question on isis? a question on isis, president trump said that if he had been president earlier, than raqqah would have fallen earlier. >> glad to hear that. that's illuminating to me. i was involved in it throughout. do i believe the last eight years were failed? absolutely. absolutely. there was no rules of engagement. and there was no success. there was no strategy. so i certainly agree that the last eight years were a dismal failure of our policies and strategy in iraq and afghanistan. that's why it's been 15 years.
>> reporter: thank you, senator. >> all right, so there you have senator john mccain, in part, responding, he didn't respond to the president's threat to him. be careful, because at some point i fight back, but gloria, he's speaking bluntly. he's agreeing that the obama administration failed in iraq and afghanistan. agrees with the president on that, but is making it clear on a whole host of other issues he disagrees with the president. >> i think it was clear he didn't want to reengage with the president on this issue again. i think he spoke his peace last night and elaborated just a little, just a little bit. he's not going to back down. and the president can threaten him, i'm sure, john mccain has been through a lot worse in his life than threats from donald trump. and i thought it was sort of funny, he said he didn't listen to rand paul very much either. >> well, i felt it concerning that he didn't blame trump by name for this, but i think it was pretty clear when you listen to his words last night, that he's describing an environment that trump created. he just called it a reversion to
the 1930s. and went on to say, that's what led to world war ii. that's a remarkable thing for a statesman like john mccain, a republican senator, to in effect accuse the president of a 1930s populism. it's a remarkable charge. and it's sobering to hear that from john mccain. >> he said last night, david, he did not want to see half-baked spurious nationalism emerge here in the united states. didn't mention the president by name, but clearly everyone understood what he was talking about. >> right. the kind of america first isolationist to abdicate its role as a leader of the post-war period, which is what the international order was built out of world war ii, and that is very much john mccain's world view. so i think it is striking to hear that. and you know, you're going to hear a lot more from john mccain who doesn't want to take president trump on directly, but
it's that line from "hamilton," talk less, smile more. john mccain is gritting his teeth through the trump presidency, but his actions on health care and maybe more to come will make it very difficult for this president. >> let's go to phil mattingly on capitol hill for us, walk us through what looks like major breaking news, a tentative deal reached between democratic leaders and republican leaders moving forward, keeping obamacare, the affordable care act alive, at least the subsidize to the insurance companies for at least two more years. >> reporter: yeah, the subsidize that the president just a few days ago canceled because the executive branch has that ability. the way they wouldn't have the ability anymore is if congress appropriated the funds. and that has been what the negotiations are between lamar alexander of season and congresswoman murray have made. and the deal is essentially this, what i'm told from aides is the deal has been agreed in principle. a two-year funding of the
cost-reducing payments to help insurers bring rates down for individuals in the marketplace. that would be what democrats would get, plus about $100 million in funding for obamacare outreach for the exchanges. what republicans would get in exchange would be regulatory flexibility on the state level. so basically -- >> hold on one second, phil. the democratic leader and the minority leader chuck schumer is addressing this issue. i want to listen in. >> then you can do questions on anything but you'll have to go. so first, i want to salute both lamar alexander and patty murray for working hard on a bipartisan solution. we think it's a good solution. and it got broad support when patty and i talked about it at the caucus at lunch today. first, it stabilizes the system. two years of cautionary provides real stability to the system. and we want to make sure that
happens. we want to work in the long-term to produce premiums and increase coverage. our republicans colleagues seem to be in the opposite place in the long-term, but i think there's a growing consensus that in the short-term we need stability in the markets. so we have achieved stability, if this agreement becomes law, we have also put in some very significant anti-sabotage provisions. the president had been sabotaging this bill and the agreement would undo much of that sabotage. so overall, we are very pleased with this agreement. now, it's just general, there are a few more details that have to be worked out, but we think it's a very good step forward. and i, speaking for myself, i hope senator mcconnell will put it on the floor under senator lamar and murray's leadership. i hope the house will take it up and the president will sign it all as quickly as possible. because what it will do, it will protect the people from premium
increases, assure the marketplaces that this has a future, a long-term future, and prevent the sabotage that we have seen thrown at it in the last several months. senator murray. >> well, as we all know right now, patients and families across our country are looking at the harmful steps that president trump has taken to sabotage health care in our country. they are looking at their bank accounts, and they are realizing that if the president is allowed to continue down the path he's headed on, they are the ones that will pay the price. so i'm really glad that democrats and republicans agree its unacceptable and that the uncertainty and dysfunction cannot continue. and i'm very pleased that in the hearings and discussions with over half the senate, chairman alexander and i were able to find common ground on a number of steps to stabilize the markets. and to help protect families from premium spikes as a result
of the sabotage we have seen from this administration. we are ironing out a few of the last details right now, but i'm very optimistic that we'll be able to make an announcement with all the details very soon and that we'll be able to show patients and families as well as those who are still determined to enable trumpcare that, you know what? when republicans and democrats in congress take the time to work together under regular order rather than retreating to partisan corners, we can truly get things done that help people that we serve. thank you. >> thank you, patty. and she was saluted in our caucus today by one and all for the fine job that she has done. okay. now, segway, sheldon will appreciate this being a man of literature, just -- >> so there's the news, you heard the news that democrats in the senate, they support patty murray, the ranking democrat in the senate health committee
working with the chairman, lamar alexander. they've got a deal, at least for two years, keeps the affordable care act going. they were very, very pleased with this deal. they are still working on things to be done. but phil mattingly is with us, our congressional correspondent, phil, very enthusiastic support for the tentative deal by the democratic leadership. earlier the president in his news conference said he would support it as well. does that automatically mean it's a done deal? >> reporter: it doesn't. and look, what i'm told right now, and you heard from senator schumer, obviously senator murray gave a presentation about what the deal would entail during the democratic lunch that just ended, republicans also got their own presentation from lamar alexander. it's always been the republicans that are the issue with this. what this does for a short-term period, it quote/unquote fixes obamacare. something republicans have considered now for seven years. the components of the deal are extremely important on the republican side. obviously, you know what democrats get out of this deal,
the funding and the money for obamacare. senator schumer referred to that as well. the regulatory piece of this is crucial for republican support. and what senator alexander was essentially to get out of the deal, at least as it has been read to me out to this point, the regulatory waivers allowed under obamacare would be allowed to be sped up, they wouldn't have to be approved by state legislature, just a governor would be able to do them, if another state had gotten a waiver related to exchanges or how they could change the exchange to make it easier for individuals to apply to that exchange or to get coverage, they would be able to simply get waivers approved. the speed to get the waivers approved and the types to get approved are important here. and there is an expansion of people's ability to get catastrophic plans based on this deal. those are the components that will make or break this deal. because this deal now needs to be sold to republicans. i'm told that what they don't have right now is a guarantee from senate leadership that this will ever find its way to the senate floor. essentially, what they have to do now and senator alexander
told reporter this is earlier, they need to whip up support on their own. basically prove to senate leaders that if this gets onto the floor, this would move and perhaps, more importantly, that it also has life in the house. the house of representatives that has kind of even been more deeply held in opposition to this type of idea going forward. so this is certainly a break through. this is certainly something that democrats are latching onto, saying this has to move forward, there are several republicans we have talked to that don't believe the csr should have been canceled altogether. they will be supportive of this as well. but this is far from a break through. wolf, i will say, you made an important point, the president in the last couple of days has touted the plan of the bipartisan short-term deal. he was talking specifically about this and i'm told he told senator lamar alexander a couple times behind the scenes over the last week or two he would be supportive of this plan. the president's voice on this and the president's willingness to actually push this forward, particularly in the house where republicans are more skeptical,
will be extremely important as to whether or not this has a future. but right now, a deal has been agreed to. the big question now is, will it actually move forward beyond the deal phase and into something that actually passes into law, wolf. >> it sounds to me like it is an issue that right now the democrats are on board, a lot of republicans are on board, will the speaker in the house, will paul ryan insist on a majority of the majority on board in order to allow it to come up for a vote? because there's plenty of moderate republicans who probably are going to go along with senator lamar alexander and patty murray. >> reporter: there's no question, there are republicans in the house including powerful ones, the house ways and means committee says there should be provisions, at least in the short-term, but the speaker and republicans operate under a rule almost, kind of an informal rule, that they don't want to put anything on the floor that will pass with a majority of democratic support and a minority of republican support. they need to figure out if
there's a path forward here. i can tell you, i noted that the negotiations have been going on for a while and were going on right before, kind of the repeal and replace effort known as graham/kaz graham/cassidy came back to life a few weeks ago. and it was paul ryan that called over to senate leadership and the white house and said, this is not something we can put on the floor. this is not something our conference will support. so they will need a shift over in the house in terms of how they feel about this before they actually have a green light to move this toward. i can tell you that leadership over in the senate wants no part of moving something forward that has no future in the house. i will say, one other kind of logistical component here, procedural component, this is probably not going to be a stand-alone bill. this is going to be something they try to attach to some other piece of moving legislation. so keep an eye on the different vehicles that senators are looking for and keep an eye on the support, but as you know, keep an eye on the house. they are on recess this month and we'll get a good idea of where they stand for another couple of days, but that will
likely make or break whether this moves forward. >> we'll see what happens in the house. chris soliza is with us as well. the compromise of democrats and republicans working together. you heard the president saying mitch mcconnell is on board, but as phil mattingly correctly points out, this is far from being a done deal. >> reporter: right. wolf, let's talk about trump first. remember that donald trump essentially, as recently as today, has described those subsidize as big payoffs for the health insurance industry and it was not helping consumers, an that's why he got rid of it. this deal based on the outlines that we know at the moment would restore those subsidize for two years. so it's not clear why all of a sudden donald trump endorses the alexander/murray legislation. that is point one. though he's been a little bit all over the map, so i guess it's consistent in its inconsistency. on the house side, i feel like
with every major piece of legislation, phil notes this better and has talked about this better than i have, every time we come back to the same thing. 40-ish members of the house freedom caucus. the most conservative elements of the house republican conference. are they willing to go along with this? this is government subsidize to health insurance companies so that they will indeed be incentivized to pay for lower income americans to have health insurance. on sort of the philosophical end, that's not something that a lot of quite conservative republicans of the american freedom caucus endorse. with trump's endorsement, assuming this stays, maybe that matters. maybe paul ryan decides not to do the majority and just bring it up because they are concerned about the impacts of not doing so from a policy and political perspective, but i would say this deal, at the moment, it certainly is one of the only
bipartisan things done in a very long time. i think we were going back to the ryan/murray budget act in 2013, that being the last major thing, but not a done deal certainly because, for the same reasons that no major piece of legislation is just immediately sort of blank checked through the house and then the senate. >> if it were to pass the senate and eventually pass the house and signed into law by the president, this two-year deal, it would take the deal, the affordable care act would stay in effect through the midterm elections next year. that's a significant part of all of this as well. chris, standby. we'll have a lot more on the breaking news of president trump. also, envoking the dpepth o the white house chief of staff's son to say that the former president didn't always call the families. this ambush left four american troops dead. a lot more on all the breaking news right after this.
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i'm brianna kieler. we have breaking news, the u.s. military is launching an invest into the deadly ambush of four u.s. soldiers including green berets during an operation near the border with mali. the president is facing backlash saying the predecessors never called the families of fallen troops. the president remained silent for 12 days and hasn't reached out to if families of the four. we are bringing in a retired green beret and now the ceo and founder of the nonprofit mission
america. and he's also the author of game-changers going local to defeat violent extremists. what do you have in terms of questions about what happened to these soldiers? because there's so little we know at this point. >> hey, breanna. as far as questions go, the invest is going to barrel a lot of that out, but these guys were special forces operating in a very at-risks cou country doing is dangerous work, working with indigenous people to stand up on their own and push back against isis. that is dangerous work, it is very osteer and very remote. we are going to find out these guys were doing exactly what they need to do to keep us safe in an at-risk country. >> why are we not hearing more about it from the government? >> well, i think the nature of this work, it is a bit different than a lot of the other special
operations forces that are out there. it is not the direct action nighttime strike thing that seems to garner a lot of media attention. what this work is is more long-term, it's more bottom-up kind of work. working with indigenous forces over a long period of time. and frankly, brianna, it is use in a place far away from any kind of natural support. the country has been doing this for 50 years in places like colombia, the philippines, and it is frankly how we get in front of violent extremism in places where we can't afford to set up large footprints. so i think that's why we don't hear a lot about it, because it's the nature of the work. it is quiet work. >> and you make a very good point that especially movies poplarize the idea, if you're a commando, you're kicking indoors, but a lot of the special operators are doing this work really at the community level. that said, do you think one of the reasons we haven't heard, i guess, answers to the questions about what happened, is because
there is a rpush for the government to make clear to americans just how widespread this quiet work is around the world? >> you know, brianna, i hope that's not the case. i make this point in my book "game changers" that we have been at this war for 16 years now. if we think the direction-action raids are the only way to defeat isis, we have another thing coming. we have had three presidential administrations now that have gloomed on to that approach. we need it. it's amazing what the operators have done in syria and iraq to beat isis back, but if we don't build capacity in these at-risk areas like libya and niger where the amazing operators were killed, then we are never going to get in front of the problem to allow locals to stand up on their own. that's what these guys are afraid of. that's what the bad guys are afraid of. green berets can punch up from the weight with big capacity.
and i hope our politicians understand that. that this is absolutely essential for national defense over the long-term in these rough places where we can't set up 100,000 troops in a base. >> colonel scottm mann, great insight. we appreciate it. you may have heard senator john mccain firing back on president trump's threat to, quote, be careful after mccain called his world view half-baked. we are back in a moment. s we lost a lot of food. we actually filed a claim with usaa to replace that spoiled food. and we really appreciated that. we're the webber family and we are usaa members for life.
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senator john mccain was speaking to cnn just moments ago, elaborating on the vailed comments he made, and maybe not too vailed, actually, about president trump last night. listen to some. >> reporter: were you addressing the president or bannon or the group in total? >> i think that what is clear is what i was talking about as an environment here of nonproductivity of a reversion to the attitude of the '30s, which was one of the major reasons why we fought world war ii. >> reporter: and then, with regard to, and i'm reluctant to bring this up, but with regard to what the president said about general kelly and his son and president obama not addressing
him, is this an appropriate place for the president to be making a comment. you have served in the armed forces. >> frankly, i don't know what to think about that. i think our first objective has to be to honor and serve those young people who have given their lives. >> i want to turn to cnn presidential historians tim notali and douglas brinkley, a history from feprofessor at bry university. you are looking at the escalating war of words between senator mccain and president trump. what do you make of it? >> well, that john mccain was very brave to give that dinner address under the osposis of liberty. and we are being taken over by half-baked ideas, that the whole sense of promotion of the global ideals is getting corroded, it is under siege. it's an old-time big pro-nato
john mccain, and he sees the foreign policy acting in a very fickle and confused way right now. he thought he had a public service to speak up, he did, and it reminded me of eisenhower's farewell address in a sense that he is warning the country to beware of having your government behave in a rerp rehenceable right-wing nationalistic manner. >> tim, one of the points he made is don't turn away from the world you helped organize. he said that in his speech. and here he was asked to talk about really this return, the nonproductivity of the version of the attitude of the '30s. that sort of turning into one's self is a country, which he said precipitated world war ii. that's a big warning. >> remember that john mccain, not only has an unbelievable beautiful and honorable personal biography, but he comes from a family of service.
and in his speech last night, he talked about how he remembered pearl harbor and his father -- >> leaving that day, he said. for service. >> for him, he has a personal family connection to internationalism. the fact that america, in the 1930s, let the world fall apart. didn't participate, didn't add its voice as it could have, that was a lesson his generation and his father's generation learned. which is, when you leave things alone and america doesn't take its place among the great powers, the world gets into trouchblt and he trouble. and he's saying, remember that. now it is selfish that a new generation of american firsters has forgotten the lessons fought for by his father. that's what he's speaking about. >> he believes this is a rebuke of american excellence as he sees it. >> well, it's a rebuke of the whole title. that was the title used by isolationists in the 1930s through pearl harbor.
they disappeared through pearl harbor for obviously reasons. he's saying, don't forget the reasons why america began to participate internationally. it was not because we were seeking control of the world, it is because the world needed us and we met the call. that's what it was about. >> doug, what do you think? >> well, i think any u.s. president since fdr would have embraced john mccain's words and said, right on. you're saying, you're preaching to the american choir. however, donald trump is a different an massachusetts aima offense to the fact that donald trump was intimating that they are creating a half-baked isolationism that will be dangerous for future generations to come. he felt at this point, he's fighting cancer, he's in that stage right now in his life that he could come forward and tell the truth, speak truth to power. donald trump didn't like it.
and he's already warned donald trump, hey, i can fight back, you know. so you may be in the next few weeks or months having a tit for tat going on between trump and mccain. and i give mccain already the bronze star for that fight, because i think he will defeat trump if it gets to being who's right about the democratic ideals are all about. >> and john mccain will be a formidable ally, no doubt, in that debate. douglas brinkley, tim notali, thank you so much to both of you. it's the top of the hour. i'm breanna kieler in for brooke baldwin. cnn is learning two bipartisan senators, one democrat, one republican, say they have reached a deal in principle on health care. now this time patty murray, a democrat, and senator lamar alexander, a republican, are reaching across the aisle. and their goal is to stabilize obamacare rather than, as the president has requested, just le