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>> there is no reason for the president to be so insensitive. i wanted to speak with him, and i was going to curse him out. >> democratic congresswoman is angry and upset after president trump's phone call to a grieving military widow. we'll tell you why. >> days after the president moved to end obamacare subis siddys to insurers, a new plan is coming together to keep them. what else is in this bipartisan proposal and can it pass congress? good morning, everyone. welcome to "early start" this wednesday morning. i'm christine romans. it is wednesday, suspect it? >> i do believe. it takes you a while at this time of the morning to recall what day it is. i'm dave briggs. it is october, 18th, 2017. it is 5:00 in the east. president trump reached out to the families of the slain soldiers. a florida congresswoman overheard this call.
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>> his widow met the casket. moments earlier she heard this comment. she was in the car and listened to part of the call on speaker phone. she recalled part of it to cnn's don lemon. >> reporter: we were in the car together in the limousine headed to meet the body at the airport. so i heard what he said because the phone was on speaker. >> what did he say? >> well, basically he said, well, i basically know he knew what he signed up for but i guess it still hurts. >> translator: remark made the widow break down in tears, as you might imagine any remark from any president might do. the white house only saying "the president's conversations with the families of american heroes who made the ultimate sacrifice
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are private. cnn has been unable to reach the family for comment. >> meantime, the defense department is conducting an initial review of the mission in niger and the deadly ambush by isis-affiliated fighters. it is an effort to "get all the fac facts correct." why are they still out there? why do they have such light armaments? they were surrounded by 40 or 50 quite quickly. >> let's hope that is the focus going forward. good morning to you, zach. a tough situation no one wants to determine what ought to be said to the widow of a soldier. all right. let's talk about i think what the president said about general kelly's son when pressed on this issue. listen. >> you could ask general kelly, did he get a call from obama? you could ask other people. i don't know what obama's policy
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was. >> now, general kelly lost his son on the battle field. he is fiercely private, as you might imagine anyone would be. what does that answer reveal to you about this president? >> well, i think it suggests that probably general kelly or white house chief of staff kelly and president trump have talked about this and trump feels he's in the right or, you know, in some way he is putting himself up against the experience of general kelly as informing him how i say going to treat this going forward. you know, it clearly got under his skin a little bit, this idea that he should have called the soldiers and didn't. and he's come back to this a couple times now over the last couple of days. so this is clearly an issue that really gets at him. and he has talked about it with his staffers, including kelly. so i find that really interesting. this should not be a competition.
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>> thank you. >> it's a weird, weird thing, i think, that we're even having this discussion. >> and it's so is hard -- >> we completely agree with you. >> the families are grieving. the folks us should be on them. maybe they should be allowed to do this in private, but it has become a political issue because of the president's own reaction and the president's need the make it a competition. but also because the president's record on talking about the military, the criticism and insults he's had about john mccain being captured. the president's own multiple deferments. he did not serve. so that is sort of why it is relevant here. but one hopes that this whole issue, zach, is mott politicized or the families are not politicized because of this. >> that's right. it's amazing and heartbreaking to hear the congresswoman's, you know, comments earlier. i think there will be more life to this story as we go forward.
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but, you know, the way you framed it there in terms of his political attacks on the family, in terms of his own attacks on mccain, i think those are probably easier conversations to have than to involve these grieving families. >> yeah. and to button this up, i'm sure trump spaeurts wiupporters will cleaning up the mess of the v.a., something he has done and should get credit for doing. >> mixed reaction on capitol hill after a new bipartisan agreement to preserve obamacare siddys. lamar alex an tker and murray. >> the plan has broad support in his conference. still, there are serious doubts
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whether the plan can pass congress and the gop leaders in the house and senate are not sold on it. and that's where we return to zach wolf. zach, earlier in the week the president said there is no such thing as obamacare. it is virtually dead. now what is it? >> that's a good question. he has been all over the map on the affordable care act, obamacare, whatever you want to call it. he doesn't want to call it obamacare anymore. just the idea of obama seems to frustrate him. he is trying to sabotage it by ending payments that are unconstitutional or illegal. he is trying to, you know, move on in another direction. there were some suggestions that maybe he liked the bipartisan plan. maybe he doesn't like the bipartisan plan. he has not settled on a place for that. it would stepped i think the current situation. all of this gets to the point that the republicans and president trump don't have a strategy to get beyond obamacare
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at this point. go ahead. >> we were just showing sort of the details of the alexander murray deal. one thing i think is interesting it keeps the core requirements for what the plans must cover. that is essentially obamacare, right? customers 30 plus can buy copper plans. that's a nod to people who just wanted to get something cheap and simple. >> bare bones. >> bare bones. and it restores the $100 million for obamacare outreach. something the white house had been starving the open enrollment process, the advertising and the -- you know, last year they had navigators to help you call in or go physically talk to an obamacare navigator to figure out what was best for you. so there was help from the federal government to figure out the best plan. that's missing here. it comes back in in this deal. does the president hate the subsidies or does he now like the suck siddys?
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subsidies? >> moving forward, he is essentially -- one of our colleagues referred to it as took a hostage. except he is harming the hostage as part of the negotiating tactics. basically sabotaging a law but suggesting it would be okay to keep the law. it bespeaks this difficulty that republicans are having. and it is is so important. you mentioned open enrollment. that is coming up. it's been in this uncovered story that if people don't sign up for obamacare again, that could jeopardize it too. >> you fast forward to 2018, these exchanges will be propped up. they will be running on repeal and replace and propping up exchanges for the republicans. it will be hard for voters. >> it is a health care frankenstein. >> zach wolf, see new 30 minutes. >> just in time for halloween. >> indeed. ethics watch dog group who
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forces driving isis terrorists out of their self-declared capital of raqqa, syria. syrian democrat you can forces still working out are he maining threats. how does this change the battle as isis loses physical territory and moves underground? arwa damon is near the iraq/syria border >> reporter: good morning, christine and dave. a spokesperson for the fighting force on the ground backed by the u.s.-led coalition said the clearing operations are still ongoing. they are still trying to comb through the city and root out any potential remnants of isis fighters that the coalition estimates to be at around 100 there. they are suspected to be hiding out in the rubble of the burned-out buildings. then they will take the monumental task of clearing out any improvised explosive devices isis may have left behind in buildings, roads or alleyways. we did see exclusive drone footage of the sdf already
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>> there is no reason for the president to be so insensitive. i wanted to speak to him, and i was going to curse him out. >> that's democratic congresswoman angry after president trump's phone call to a grieving military widow. we'll tell you what he said. days after the president moved to end obamacare subsidies to insurers, a new plan is coming together to keep them in place. what else is in the bipartisan proposal and can it pass congress?
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the house might be the biggest problem in this one. some conservatives not on board. i'm dave briggs. >> i'm christine romans. 30 past the hour on this wednesday morning. president trump reached out to the families of the slain soldiers and one on of those calls is drawing outrage from a florida congresswoman who said she heard it. >> the body of sergeant la david johnson arrived home in florida tuesday where his widow met the casket. moments earlier she received a call from the president. congresswoman frederica wilson said she heard part of that call and relayed it to cnn's don lemon. >> we were in the car together in the limousine headed to meet the body at the airport. so i heard what he said because the phone was on speaker. >> what did he say? >> well, basically he said,
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well, i guess he knew what he signed up for but i guess it still hurts. >> the remark made the widow break down in tears. as you can imagine, it is a tearful ride to pick up your husband's body. the white house only saying, the president's conversations with the families of american heroes who made the ultimate sacrifice are private." cnn has been unable to reach the family for comment. >> meantime, the defense department is conducting an initial review of the mission in niger and the deadly ambush by isis-affiliated fighters. it is an effort to "get all the facts correct." let's hope that is the focus going forward. cost-sharing payments for
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two years is and? exchange give states greater flexibility in obamacare. more on that in just a moment. president trump appears to support the move. the plan has broad support in his conference, still there are serious doubts whether it can pass congress. some gop leaders in the house and senate are not sold on it, from chuck schumer. i guess it looks as though the president used some pretty serious leverage here when he killed those subsidies. he said, look, i'm going to kill the subsidies. now, democrats, give me a call. let's work on this. maybe is this brilliant negotiating by the president? >> well, i think these negotiations were going on for some time before that. and a lot of people had been teasing he was going to kill the subsidies. i'm not sure that you can say he made this happen, first of all. second on of all, i'm not sure this is going to happen largely because a lot of republicans don't like it on capitol hill.
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kind of have mixed messages from the white house. it's not clear even bringing democrats from the table is going to get a bill through congress. >> politics are one thing. there is just so much uncertainty. there is no such thing as owe on 'bama care. it is dead. he called them bailouts for insurance companies and bailouts for members of congress. but now obamacare is alive and the payments are back. where does health care remain in this country? that's the most important part. >> i don't think we know where it's going right now. that is exactly the problem. we are coming up to open enrollment when people are going to, on the individual market, are supposed to be choosing plans. so a lack of on knowledge, lack of confidence about what's going to happen is probably not what we want to have right now. we should add one of the things
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in the bill is money to help sell obamacare. >> right. >> christine talked about the navigators, the advertising. so people know this is out there. otherwise, people might forget it's open enrollment. >> if you don't get insurance and you are uninsured, you don't buy insurance on the exchanges, you will face a fine that comes out of your tax return. it is still the law of the land, right, zach? >> theoretically. >> the president continues to say he has the votes for the graham/cassidy bill. again, there are not the votes. we're not sure where he is getting the additional tphoets votes. but there are not those votes in place. we want to talk about this military story and move past what was said to a widow relayed from awe congresswoman. i do want to ask you about the president. when asked about all of this, how he calls the families of troops's families, how, when and
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why. but this part about general john kelly, his chief of staff, who also lost his son in the battle field, this a bit controversial this morning. listen. >> you could ask general kelly, did he get a call from obama? you could ask other people. i don't know what obama's policy was. let's go back to the beginning when sara murray just asked the president about the details of the four green berets lost in niger and why the president hadn't addressed it. what is his reaction to all of these questions tell you? >> i think it tells me that he has a chip on his shoulder about this. that the idea -- you know, it's uncomfortable for him. he's clearly talked about it with general kelly because otherwise how would he know that president obama didn't immediately call general kelly. he has been thinking about this. and it's something that weighs on him, which is interesting to see play out.
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usually when something frustrating him, he pushes it back with obama. we have seen this on a number of things. it's unfortunate the thing he is pushing back on obama is something like this. >> the president is very personal and very competitive. things are very personal and competitive for him. it's almost like this is a contest. this should not be a contest. >> it's not. exactly. >> absolutely. this just should not be. one of the roepbts why this is newsworthy is and the politicization is just horrific. but the president has this long pattern of behavior of criticizing the military. even though as you rightly point out, cleaning up the v.a. the policy stance is much different than what he has said. that's why so many people, zach, i think are critical of the president when he tries to talk about the military. >> right. you go back to khan.
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>> gold star father. >> i would say he criticized people with ties to the military who criticize him. that's an important distinction. >> yeah, it is. >> you can tie john mccain to that and his criticism of the senator. all right. it's a tough issue. zach wolf, we appreciate you weighing in. >> a lot of news. the third trump travel ban not taking effect as planned today. a federal judge in hawaii blocking travel ban 3.0, which was supposed to go into effect today. the revised plan "suffers from the same maladies as the predecessor and discriminates based on on nationality. new restrictions would have covered eight countries. sarah sanders called the ruling dangerously flawed. the justice department will appeal. this morning, an ethics watch dog deal heads to court, accusing the president of violating a clause since is his businesses accept cash from foreign governments without the consent of congress. the president instead placed them in a trust. which means he can withdraw cash from his business any time he wants. the lawyers asking the judge to dismiss the case.
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>> the president once again framing his tax plan as a gift for everyday americans. >> you understand that lower taxes mean bigger paychecks, more jobs, and stronger growth. at the heart of our plan is a tax cut for everyday working americans. >> most americans do get tax cuts in this plan. but the biggest cuts go to the healthy and to business. the white house is trying to sell what is essentially corporate tax cuts as a raise for the middleclass.
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they say a lower tax rate will spur overseas company to spur cash home. that money will boost worker pay. a new survey found most use them on share buybacks or debt. economic adviser gary cohns he's okay with that. >> they buyback stock. the government collects a tax on the capital gains or whoever they buy back stock from called 23.6%. the government gets 23.6%. >> still got to try to make that link to the government getting the capital gains tax. the administration wouldn't put conditions on the return cash. that was the same for 2004. most went to shareholders, not business investment. white house economists have been saying the broken tax code is why wages haven't grown in a generation. so fix the broken tax code will
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let the genie out of the bottle. >> steve mnuchin said if you lower it, 70% of gains will be felt by the workers, not by the shareholders. >> yeah. that's why economics is not an exact science. >> a lot of assumptions here. the self-declared isis capital no longer in isis hands. the city liberated by u.s.-backed forces. what's next for the city and for isis as it tries to rebuild?
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and change the way you wifi. so what's next in the fight against isis? that's the big question this morning after a major victory by u.s.-backed forces driving isis terrorists out of their self-declared capital of raqqa, syria. democratic forces are still working to clear remaining threats. cnn's arwa damon near the
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iraq/syria border with more >> reporter: good morning, christine and dave. well, a spokesperson for the syrian democratic forces, the fighting force on the ground backed by the u.s.-led coalition said the clearing operations are still ongoing. they are still trying to comb through the city and root out any isis fighters that the coalition estimates to be at about 100 there. they are expected to be hiding out in the rubble, in the burned-out buildings then they will take over raqqa and going through you buildings, roads, alleyways for improvised explosive devices isis may have left behind in buildings, roads, or alleyways. we did see exclusive drone footage of the sdf already celebrating, especially in one of the main squares. this is where we saw some on of
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the worst atrocities unfolding. the public beheadings, executions, crucifixions and trying to restore a false sense of normalcy to this city is something that lies well ahead in the future. and the population right now languishing in refugee camps. while this is a blow to isis territorily speaking, the ideology is still very much alive. >> all right. arwa damon, thank you so much for that. former white house press secretary sean spicer the third official to be interviewed in special counsel robert mueller's russia investigation. spicer was interviewed monday. and in this cnn exclusive, an ally to putin believed to have financed a russian troll factory that spread fake news during the 2016 election. cnn's jim sciutto has more. >> reporter: cnn has learned that the company of prigozhi n,a
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russian oligarch dubbed "chef" financed a russian troll factory that used social media to spread fake news during the 2016 presidential campaign. this according to multiple officials briefed on the investigation. he is one of the kremlin's inner circle. he catered birthday parties that was attended by president george h.w. bush. a secretive technology firm created and distributed fake news. he was sanctioned by the u. s. treasury department in december 2016 but this for providing foreman support for russia's military occupation of ukraine. my colleagues and i examined scores of documents leaked from the companies. the monthly budget was around $1 million in 2013. that's every month. split between russian language operations and the use of social media in english. one part of that factory had a really intriguing name. it was called "department of
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provocations dedicating to sowing fake news in the west. its mission, as stated in those documents was, "how do we create news items to achieve our goals?" several calls from cnn to the firm went unanswered and the i.r.a. no longer exists. since the u.s. election. jim sciutto, cnn, washington. >> fascinating reporting. it really is. thanks, jim. google maps facing backlash online. the concern is about cupcakes. this has dave's head exploding. details on cnn "money" stream next. later, gary' i have a motorcycle! wonderful. ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪
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growing fallout for a noted investor over racist remarks. marc faber known as dr. doom. he said thank god white people populated america and not the blacks. otherwise, the u.s. would look like zimbabwe, which it might look like one day anyway. but at least america enjoyed 200 years in the economic and political sun of white majority. >> now faber has resigned from three boards. they will not book him ever again. he is off the list. meantime, faber is standing by his comments despite him first
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saying he is not a racist. he said, if stating some historical facts makes me a racist, then i suppose i am a racist. >> wow. two chicago airport security officers fired after forcibly removing a passenger from an overbooked united flight back in april. you remember this. dr. david dao dragged down the aisle by his arms and legs before the flight took off from o'hare. he was left bloodied and bruised. two other security officers have been suspended. they made misleading statements and deliberately removed material facts from their reports. a gruesome leg injury for gordon hayward. it happened minutes into his first game as a celtic on this play. we're not going to show it close up pause it is some gruesome. coach said he suffered a dislocated ankle and broken leg. reports say he will have surgery today.
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>> you can see the fans and the teams both feeling the guy. l.a. dodgers took a commanding 3-0 lead in the nlcs. the dodgers could punch their ticket to the world series by skwaoeping game four tonigsweep game four in wriggly stadium. meantime, the alcs is tied at two games apiece. yankees erasing a four-run deficit to win 6-4 last night. aaron judge, the monster homer in the second put the yankees on the board. then four runs in the eighth. taking a lead on that double by gary sanchez. pivotal game five today at yankees stadium. what a thrilling series that has been. a rainy day on tap in the
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southeast. stormy in the rthwest. get more meteorologist pedram javaheri. >> breezy weather. scattered showers in this region as well. beyond that north of this region it is generally dry. a few pop-up thunderstorms enter until early wednesday. how about these temperatures. enjoy it, my friend. boston, be lower 70s. room temperature thursday afternoon. new york city as uniform as it gets when you're talking about 71 degrees each of the next three days. the western u.s., we have much cooler air some place around san francisco, down to 62 for a high. los angeles, you see a shift as well. more of a ma reap influence brings temperatures to the middle 70s. santa anas pick up saturday afternoon temperatures in the middle 80s. around the pacific northwest, the storm propped wide open. a tremendous source of moisture
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with a lot of rainfall. eight inches up to a couple of feet of fresh snow into the higher el gas stations as well. guys? >> thank you so much. that's your weather. how about money this morning. global stock markets are higher after the dow crewsed past 23,000. closed just below there. but still record high again for the dow. you know, the dow has cruised past 22,000, 23,000, spurred by strong economic data and renewed hope for tax reform. corporate tax cuts is what wall street wants to see. driving things this week is stocks driven higher by strong results from united health care, johnson & johnson. today expect reports from american express and united. facebook's stock hit an all-time-high for buying a polling app tbh, to be honest. >> you learn something new every day. >> soros giving away his money.
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soros gave 18 billion dollars to husband foundation. it promotes human rights. soros has been heavily involved in philanthropy for decades. he donated $30 billion to various causes. google finds itself in an uproar over cupcakes. google maps removing a new edition of calorie counter. it shows how many calories you burn if you walk. it converts them into mini cupcakes. 300 calories is almost three mini cupcakes. they intended the feature to promote healthy living. users say it triggered those with eating disorders or shamed people who didn't walk. a google spokeswoman told cnn it pulled the feature due to the strong feedback. what do you think? people are too sensitive? >> i think it's ridiculous. relax, people. i don't think it was extraordinarily effective. >> it would be cool whatever your vice is.
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mine is hamburgers. >> you could customize your vice. beers. >> blood mary. now we're going down the wrong path. "new day" starts right now. we'll see you tomorrow. we're having cupcakes and beers right now. he said, well, i guess he knew what he signed up for, but i guess it still hurts. >> he has shown in ability to empathize. >> relaying a private conversation is just an absolute disgrace. >> how low will we set the standard for this president? >> you can ask general kelly did he get a call from obama. >> the use of robert kelly is just terrible. >> the president is intentionally trying to blow up heating insurance markets. >> i commend senators alexander and murray. the core

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