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white house he was talking to reporters about texas, interactions with soldier's widow, and two republican senators who ex-core rated his leadership. you saw right here live during the show arizona senator flake making his comments from the floor. after corker criticized the president. but as president's party division seems deep as other, but the silence from others is speaking volu speaking volumes. and president trump not talking
about civil war, labeling it re-election. let me read you a tweet. they had zero chance of being re-elected. and then moments ago he added this. >> i don't think so.
i think it's fine the way it is. we have great unity in the republican party. >> [ inaudible question ] >> that's okay. if you look yesterday at what happened at the meeting we had i guess virtually every senator, including john mccain, we had a great conversation yesterday, about the military. i think we had a tremendous, i called it a love fess, it was almost a love fest, maybe it was, but standing ovations. will is great unity. if you look at the democrats with bernie sanders and hillary clinton, that's a mess. there is great unity in the republican party. >> let's talk about it. paul cane is with me correspondent for the "washington post." gentlemen, good to see both of you. i want to get into almost seemed like a news conference when he was going to head off to texas,
stopped and talked to reporters for 15 minutes and watching the president's face he was almost smiling and feeling vindicated. did you see what i think i saw? >> sure. president was trying to send a message nothing unusual happening over the lasz several days. nogs unusual about the fact that former republican president has denounced me. nothing unusual about they are speaking out against me. but the reality is, brooke, it is unusual. the president saying it six or seven times wouldn't make it so, unity. as paul knows for being on capitol hill every waking hour of the day. there is not unity within the republican party. the question is does it matter? we don't know. but there is not unity in this republican party. ap the president talking about this and not talking about tax
reform which most republicans desperately wish he would stick to tax reform. >> to the man who spends every waking hour on capitol hill our friend here. when we heard the president talk about standing ovation yesterday behind closed doors, are we not to presume the standing o is for talk of taxes, which the republicans really need to push through, versus standing ovation for the man himself? >> yeah. it's pretty customary to have a standing ovation for the president of other party. when barack obama would come and visit congressional democrats, he would get a standing ovation at the beginning and at the end. but what we don't know is how many standing ovations president trump do the in the middle. what we out of it was it was okay, people said it was a civil meeting, but he didn't get into
any real details what he wants to see in this tax bill. he takd about his accomplishments, really read from a list of 10, 12 different things that he felt he's done in the last nine months. that's nice, it was okay, but it didn't really do anything to sell the bigger, broader idea of what they really need right now. a massive tax cut. >> right. the other piece that really jumped out at me, jeff, and i think maybe this is where some of the vindication comes from is the talk of the news today it was now not just originally republican, potentially republican rival for the presidential nomination with regard to this dossier but it was the dnc, clinton campaign paying some money ultimately for dirt, for op sticks research. so did it seem to you that the president feels that he's a bit off the hook? >> sure. he definitely wants to sort of direct the view back to the clinton campaign that is correct is something we have seen from president trump throughout. he's been arguing and looking
for someone basically an enemy, if youle, and every now and then the clinton campaign will serve p something elgs, even essentially postmortem state right now. and of course this is something that confuses the russia situation. gives the president something to point to. but this is a bit like the saying gambling going on in the casino. no kidding. all campaign do opposition research. the trump campaign has done it, clinton campaign did it. the reality it it doesn't prosecutor robert mueller is there any type of collusion here. this is another extraneous thing out there. but you can't blame the president from seizing on this. they were denouncing a report. today they are seizing on this report as evidence of this here. so they are playing the hand
that is dealt them. and clinton campaign, even in almost a year after it was put to rest is still handing him a bit of goods. >> we'll have a whole conversation about that also on the legality of it in just a second. but paul, here's where i'm curious. there is one point is the president was saying, i'm paraphrasing, i'm intelligent guy, i went to ivy league school and you the media to blame for painting him as uncivil. you the media has sucked civility out of washington. >> i think for this one i'll look back at what senator flake was talking about yesterday. he talked about the morality found inside 140 characters. it's the president's tweets that are driving the conversation here. it's the president himself and his own words that are really driving the conversation. and what these guys up here are constantly reacting to, republicans and democrats, we
are not really -- a lot of what's happening is we are showing the public his own words and tweets, and then they react to it up here. so it's not necessarily something that the media is doing. it's the presidential action often through 140 characters. >> hashtag whiplash. thank you both very much. let's go back to the dossier revelation. sources now say the hillary clinton and dnc campaign helped paid for it. as early as april of last year a law firm representing the clinton campaign hired this company and started trying to get some dirt on donald trump. and they in turn hired christopher steele who wrote the dossier. and moments ago president trump was asked to comment on this and called the revelation a disgrace. >> well, i think it's very sad what they've done with this fake
dossier. it was made up and i understand they paid a tremendous amount of money. and hillary clinton always denied it. the democrats always denied it. and now only because it's going to come out in a court case they said, yes, they did it. they admitted it. and they are embarrassed by it. but i think it's a disgrace. it's just really very sad commentary on politics in this country. >> it's important to note here democrats did not bank roll the entire project. so my next guest here is an opposition researcher hired by more than 100 candidates to do this type of digging. so allen welcome to the show. >> thank you. >> so when you are hired to dig for dirt, ocean hally, to do this type of work, i mean i'm sure there is a fine line between what you can do, what's
legal, and what's not. as you've been reading the revelations into this dossier here, any red flags to you? >> well, i mean obviously there are so many layers to who is funding this and where the information is coming from. when we are doing research, we strictly looking for anything that will lead us to documentation. so the idea of somehow going to foreign national or foreign power to acquire information is it really outside of our frame of reference. because we are almost looking for public documents here. so i think, you know, everyone is a bit confused about you've got both parties who are funding it. i don't think that in itself is that unusual. you do opposition research you are going to look at your candidate and the other side you'll be doing basically the same thing. >> listen, we know everyone does some form or fashion about this. we know about the infamous trump
tower meeting. what's the difference for that versus clinton campaign and dnc paying for this dirt from this former british intel officer? >> well, as opposition researcher, you are sort of on the frontline of gathering this information. once you turn the information over, it becomes the product of the campaign. so when you have, in the case of hillary clinton buying this information, they went through several layers. so the opposition researcher would have been way down on that level. the idea that the republicans initiated it or a republican initiated it and the democrats took it up i think indicates they are both on the same path. as to how that differs, it's really beyond my personal understanding, because i don't really know what happened within the campaign other than what i've read from "the washington post" and heard. >> sure. let's take two steps back for people not in the world of
politics. how common is it for a candidate from x or y campaign to call someone like you up and say, hey, i need some opposition restesh on my research on my rival? >> basically everybody does it. but what's important to understand you operate the same way as investigative reporter. so you hire us. we'll look at you with the same level of scrutiny we look at your opponent. and the other side is doing the same thing. when you are researching if you have to go into courthouse looking for documents, you'll har someone was in here yesterday looking for the same thing. you are building a case against your own against the opponent. that's the nature. it's all about the fact. so when i look at this dossier i think, yeah, we'll talk to anybody. we'll talk to a guy that says president reagan left a pony in his yard, because everybody
knows something we don't know. but if it doept lead to documentation it's meaningless for our purposes. >> i got you. allen hoffman thank you very much. coming up here on cnn we are taking you inside north korea hear one of what kim jong-un top officials is telling us about warning about hydrogen bomb test over the pacific. also, did local villagers in bigger play a role in the am big that killed four u.s. soldiers? and did president trump authorize that mission? cnn is in niger. we will have a live report for you ahead. p. >> and later why the nwacp is warning passengers to avoid a make tear american airline. i'm brooke baldwin. you are watching cnn. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker.
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all right. back to our breaking news here. candid question-and-answer session with president trump before he was off to texas. lt me turn to another comment from the president specifically about the war on terror. >> we are decimating isis in the middle east. what's happening is they'll go to parts of africa and other places. when they get there, we meet them. and we are beating isis very badly. you look at what's happened in the middle east. we have done more in eight months than the previous administration has done in many years. now, what happens is you decimate them, and that's all we have done, we have decimated isis in the middle east. >> let's talk about that with cnn political and national security analyst david sang
gear. we have decimated isis in the middle east so says the command der in chief. can you fact chekt hck him for >> sure. and the obama administration laid the predicate for a show careful plan to drive them out of raqqa and other strong holds and to do it as many indigenous troops rather than american troops as they could. that took a while. and the president is right that more of it was executed on his watch than was executed on president obama's watch although the obama folks would say not that. the bigger question is more complex one. once isis no longer has this territory, do they then turn to
the kind of more traditional efforts to strike back on the united states, europe, bombings, cyber work, things like that. and certainly you would rather be in that position than have them doing that while they were tolding territory. and certainly the president has cut off a good deal of their oil revenue. >> right. all right. so that's isis. what about russian sanctions in the wake of election meddling? congress overwhelmingly approved this. administration has miss add deed line to implement the sanctions. white house is point willing fingers at the state department. what's the deal with the hold up? >> well, that's a good question. because the over arching mystery around this administration's foreign policy is why you have a president of the united states incapable of saying anything critical of russians viewing the ukraine, involving the election meddling and so forth. others in the administration has. nikki haley has.
at some points rex tillerson has. the president has not. sanctions passed by congress were nom complicated to implement. and if the same sanctions were about iran, i suspect by now they would have been implemented. so the question is is this just beurre cratic snaf few or someone stonewalling it? i don't think we've gotten to the bottom of it. >> finally the north korea told our kpront will ripley who has been to pyongyang 16 times. and they told him you should take the warning from foreign minister strongest hydrogen bomb test over the pacific ocean. here they are. >> should the u.s. prepare for this? >>. >> translator: the foreign minister is very well aware of the prime minister of our leader so you should take his words literally. >> david, how should the u.s.
take that? >> i think they should take it literally. >> first of all t atmospheric testing while it was banned by the united states and the soviet union in 1963, which kennedy signed just before his assassination, has banned the united states from doing this. but we did a lot of this in the 50s. and the french continue to do it. the chinese did it as late as 1980. so noerrth koreans will have a case to take, not a stropg cang, but say they are doing what other states did in their nuclear development. at the same time it is concerned to be an environmental disaster to do this. and i think the big decision that will be facing the trump administration is if you believe an atmospheric test is coming,
and you don't know when the missile is on the pad where it's headed, do you take it out on the pad or try to shoot to down? that's going to be a big decision. once you've done that you are on a "e" ka lan escalator ladder y be able to get off. >> heading to north korea early november we'll be watching for that. david sapger thanks so much. >> great to you with you. >> staying on our breaking news hearing from the president moments ago talking to media on wide range of topics. and specifically addressed his conversation with the widow of this fallen soldier. why the president says he disputes the claim that he forgot sergeant david johnson's name. also, did president trump authorize the mission in niger. we will have his response. and we are also asking did local
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prudential. bring your challenges. all right. breaking news here the president stopping and speaking to media before heading off to texas and part of the conversation he defended his conversation with the widow of the u.s. soldier killed in niger. widow says she was hurt by the tone of his condolence call. take a listen. >> i respect her. i respect her family. i certainly respect la david who by the way called la david right from the beginning. just so you understand they put a chart in front la david says
la david johnson. so right from the beginning no hesitation one of the great memories of all time. >> also made news of the operation itself. this was the president asked specifically who was it who authorized the mission. >> it's a dangerous business. i have to say, it's a dangerous business. so what? no i didn't. not specifically. but i have generals great generals. great fighters, these are warriors. >> [ inaudible question ] >> i gave them authorities to do what's right so we win. that's the authority they have. >> u.s. officials say this team was collecting intelligence on a terror leader high value target in the area. mission was not to kill or capture u.s. officials are also looking into whether local villagers tipped off as to they were there. meantime we are also looking for the father of the fallen soldier
la david johnson and demanding answers what happened to his son. >> first of all, i don't know if he was buried to be honest with you. that's the way i feel as a father. because me hirks wife, no family member has seen no body yet. the comment i heard trump made about my son, it was crazy to me. it was really crazy. i felt some type of -- but his comment and how people are taking it is not going to solve the problem. the bigger issue is with my son. >> let's talk about this. with me is national security analyst also served on president obama national security counsel and serving the white house. you said you were in the west wing. >> right. >> when benghazi happened. >> yes. >> so thank you for coming in. first hearing the president say no no he didn't specifically authorize the mission. there are a lot of missions that happen around the world. is that odor is that normal?
>> i think we need to put this into the context of why we have troops in niger in the first place r general briefed on monday these are part of global campaign against terrorism. they are specifically authorized to partner with nigerian armed forces, to support them in conducting missions. so missions may be authorized under that training. they were not authorized to do conduct. and whether the nature of that mission changed. did they go from supporting to armed combat. and i really think that santa ana the senate armed services committee hearing tomorrow which is closed, that the senators are going to ask the witnesses for specific information about whether that mission changed. and if so, whether organizations came. >> but isn't it possible, you explain there to me, if they
were in the middle to do this and attacked, is someone supposed to stop ask for authorization? the fact that it took an hour to call in for back up we don't know why that happened yet. >> we don't. and we won't know. and there will be some details that we may never know. there is a distinction between self defense and combat operations. >> okay. what about the real possibility that the villagers in this part of niger gave this isis affiliate a heads up that they were in on this attack? >> there are a lot of pobltds. as we saw in the aftermath of benghazi there is a lot of raw intelligence likely coming in to the intelligence community right now. the intelligence community needs time to sort through all that information. the investigators need to speak with witnesses. and i would imagine that the national security team is also
engaging in discussions with the french. the french have 4,000 troops and intelligence. >> thanks for biology here on your assessment on a tragic story. thank you. moments ago the president stating tax plans including 401(k). what he said about possibility of making changes to retirement accounts. and why the president is not hitting the road to sell his tax plan to the american people. if you have medicare
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he may use it as negotiating tool for his tax plan. >> 401(k)s to me are very important, and they are important because that's one of the great benefits to the middle class. i didn't want that to go too far. that's why i ended it very quickly. >> [ inaudible question ] >> well, maybe it is. and maybe we'll use it as negotiating. >> this as president's daughter ivanka is out selling her push for child credits directly to lawmakers. so with me to chat more with me former wall street executive. great to see you. >> great to see you. >> can we talk about 401(k). we all try to maximize it for taxes. now will he, won't he, with the cap on the 401(k)s, mixed messages. >> right this is the whole issue of can we stop the president
from tweeting about things that could be related to tax reform, because we actually want tax reform to happen. >> people are paying attention when you say 401(k). >> everybody is paying attention because you are trying to save for your future. and i think you know this better than anybody. this whole tax reform issue is about three primary concerns right now. number one, look, everone is talking about what does it mean for midterm elections. let's be clear. nancy pelosi if she wants to be majority leader they need 24 seats. right. so they are going to do everything in their power to get this to what they think is a bipartisan solution and drag their feet. but when it comes to the middle class american, they are looking for answers. looking for what is in this for me which is why we see ivanka trump pushing the child tax credit. and in the eyes of corporate america, they need to sweet enthe deal. all of corporate america is hearing about the cut incorporate tax rates from 35 down to 20%. but so far nothing has happened.
right. so the stock market has been rallying on the hopes of profound tax reform that's going to bring a lot more investment and growth to the economy. and thus far we haven't seen that. so they are waiting and hoping. >> let's talk about banks and the vice president's tie breaking vote on this. the senate overturned the rule that allowed americans to sue banks and credit card companies. trump is expected to sign this. why give the banks the win here? >> this comes down to this whole issue of whether or not folks can file a class action lawsuit. >> all together? >> precisely. versus closed door arbitration. and i'll tell it like it is. this is tip of the hat to those within corporate america, largely banking industry to give them something in the wake of this discussion around tax reform. it doesn't mean that you won't have the right to sue the bank
or have legal due process. it just means that itsd going to be a closed door arbitration process. now, those on the provide and those on the negative side, many will say class action lawsuits put a lot of money in the lawyer's hands. >> right. >> and that ultimately it's more costly for the consumer and a lot of other fees for those increased legal fees that the baepg has to take on. and then plenty who would argue on behalf of the consumer like wells fargo or data breach at equifax. in the wake of that how can we do 'way with class action lawsuits? this comes down to what can the administration do to get people excited and on board with many so of those promises that have been made? and so i think ult ma italy that's what this really comes down to this at this stage in the game. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. great to see you. >> coming up here, planning on
during peak season, that includes numerous. the hike fee would help pay for improvements. critics say it could become unaffordable for a lot of americans. they say, quote, they proposed a national cut to the park district even though they struggle with millions of dollars in repairs. with me now don half more. he visited all parks. my new years resolution was to visit more parks. so i'm jealous with you. can you tell me your favorite park and why? >> hi, brooke, and thanks so much for having me today. that's a question that we get all the time. and it's really difficult to pick a favorite. but i would suggest to everyone, if you can get to denal ee
national park in alaska, it's a very special place. >> that's a good one. bucket list. bucket list. all right. so the fact that potentially the entrance fee could go up to $70. i understand you are saying it's a necessary evil. why? >> my understanding of the history of the national parks is that they have been chronically under funded for 100 years. and that's an indication to me that congress is not going to do a lot to fund them further. so it's really going to be up to the people of the united states, whether it's through charitable contributions or user fees, to help fill in that gap a little bit. >> okay. >> i'll tell you i was a little surprised yesterday when i read the amount. >> you were? >> but a lot of the money is going to have to come from us. >> i understand you do have a
solution of sorts, you know, advice to other potential park goers. what is that? the wake of this rate hike? >> well, there are a lot of things that people can do to lower their costs. for example, yellowstone has an annual pass just for that park of $60. and that's one way that you can save some money. but the national parks offers an annual pass. and the highest cost that anyone would have to pay for that is $80. and that gives you access to the parks that have a fee for an entire year unlimited. >> did my annual pass last year in wyoming in tetons national park. so there you go. i just have like 53 more to go. don thank you so very much. >> you can do it. >> national parks daum. i'll get to alaska. >> thank you so much. let's get onto divide in
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said he has great respect for the widow of sergeant la david johnson. and yet the president once again refuted what she said about that condolence call. here she is at her husband's funeral over the weekend. myeshia was one of the widows of her soldier killed in niger. she said she was offended because the president said he knew what he signed up for. here is more from the president. >> i respect her. i respect her family. i certainly respect la david who by the way i called la david right from the beginning. just so you understand they put a chart in front la david, says la david johnson. so i called right from the beginning, no hesitation, one of the great memories of all time.
>> this sad controversy has broad gold star families into an ugly debate over the president. what has been in the past a private moment, sacred for military families has been pushed into the public. one of my friends from cnn this has been extremely personal. breanna is with us now, not only the senior national correspondent on cnn but military wife. so thank you so much for joining me. and let's go back to last week. i was a way. you were filling in for me sitting in this anchor seat when the white house daily briefing began. and it was that general john kelly started talking about the process of what happens when a soldier's body comes in to dover. and you started thinking about your husband. >> yeah, and i imagine a lot of military family members were thinking the same thing.
gold star families and blue star families. and as you know, brooke, it was something that we weren't expecting. we thought it was going to be a normal briefing, then general kelly was describing what happened. and his point in doing so was to remind a lot of people who don't necessarily have a connection to the military exactly what military families and gold star families are going through. so it was really difficult to listen to. i really struggled to keep it together and was just hoping he went on for several more minutes so i could compose myself and get out of it and do my job and discuss with my panel. but one of the things that struck me is there is a difference when you have a personal experience with the military. i am a new military spouse but my husband is on six. >> let me say that six deployments. >> yes, six combat deployments but this is new to me. so i spent time certainly observing and at times covering
recorre recent conflicts without a connection, but now it hits home. and this debate has been going on and thinking about how different it is for military families as they watch this. and how we need to keep that in mind. eve one needs to keep that in mind as this goes on. >> so as you are silting there listening sitting there listening, you are emotional, and chief of staff mentioned this film taking chance about kevin bacon film about the process and dover and incredibly emotional. hand you went and watched t and as you are watching it, there was some tweets that started flying. and there was a tweet that you received from some critic, who was commenting on you sitting there watching taking chance. let me read the tweet and you tell me more about it. it's tell that you are only now
watching this. been out for years. more evidence that you and other media are in a bubble and don't know real people. tell me how you responded. >> i realized i was in sort of jeopardy of descend noog thing s twitter back and forth but didn't want to let it go because they didn't understand my personal situation and said my husband is on his 6th deployment. there are a lot of people who are wearing both hats. and in my family we are represented by the professions of jurallism and also in the military. and what was amazing about that tweet, brooke, was that he responded with apology. like a full apology. which is something that you don't often get on twitter. and it just sort of speaks to the fact that you don't
necessarily know what someone's personal story is. here at cnn there are other people who have seen their spouses through deployment. so they bring all these different perspectives. and i think one of the things i was thinking as it was going down on twitter how connected we all are. because the military swears an oath to uphold. so is the president on the part of military members. the media is entrusted to ask questions to make sure that the country that the government is being a good steward of the sacrifices that military men hand women make. so as i see all of that, i see this interconnected fabric. and things had just gotten to divisive which is part of the roorn i tweeted back and so happy to get a good response, at least anecdotely in my family, and others, there isn't a reason for there to be a division, because whether you are a politician or in the media, or