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happening now, breaking news, investigations infighting. growing partisan tension is straining the house intelligence russia investigation with democrats and republicans increasingly at odds. and now cnn has learned that two top democrats tied to the clinton campaign told congressional investigators they had no knowledge of payments for that dossier on the then candidate donald trump. crisis declaration. president trump declares the opioid epidemic a national health emergency and he gets personal, sharing the story of his brother's battle with addiction. the president now delivering a campaign pledge but why doesn't his order include desperately needed funds to fight opioid abuse? secret files.
president trump declassifies thousands of documents pertaining to the assassination of john f. kennedy. with much of his murder still shrouded in mystery, will these files reveal new information about the death of jfk? and stealth submarine. america's newest underwater weapon is almost ready to deploy to provide the u.s. with critical new abilities to possibly fight the threat from north korea. is this 8,000 ton multipurpose machine the new key to protecting america from rogue regimes? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in t"the situation room." this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news tonight, key developments at a newly revealed branch of the russia investigation. sources are now telling cnn that
former clinton campaign john podesta and debbie wasserman schultz both deny to investigators that they knew about arrangements to pay for opposition research on donald trump during the campaign. that research led to the now infamous dossier alleging ties between mr. trump and russia. also breaking, a public health emergency declared by president trump to help combat the opioid crisis. mr. trump is fulfilling a long-time promise which he often made while campaigning for president. his move stops short of calling for a national emergency but health experts are still praising the president's move. and we're also learning new details tonight about the u.s. navy's newest submarine which could play a growing threat by north korea and it can gather intelligence and deploy navy
s.e.a.l.s and could be ready to join the u.s. fleet by next year. we're covering all of that and much more at this hour with our guests, including congressman eric swalwell. let's begin with the president's declaration of a national health emergency. our senior correspondent jeff zeleny is joining us with the very latest. the president's plan asks for 90 days but it can be renewed. >> that's right. that's why some people are questioning whether it's enough to combat this problem here. everyone is praising the president for finally putting this spotlight on this. the question is, why is there no money to go with it? >> as americans, we cannot allow this to continue. >> reporter: president trump declaring america's opioid crisis a public health emergency.
>> it is time to liberate our communities from the scourge of drug addiction. never been this way. we can be the generation that ends the opioid epidemic. we can do it. >> reporter: in the east room of the white house today, the president and first lady melania trump joining together to address a drug epidemic ravaging the country. >> we are here today because of your courage. the opioid epidemic is affecting more than 2 million americans nationwide and, sadly, the number continues to rise. >> reporter: the president's speech was a long-promised effort to deliver on a campaign pledge but the memorandum he signed today does not call for new money to combat the opioid fight. >> effective today, my administration is officially declaring the opioid crisis a national public health emergency under federal law. >> reporter: by calling the crisis a public health emergency rather than a natural disaster, relief funds won't immediately
be directed to the epidemic, as suggested in august. >> it's a national emergency. we're going to spend a lot of time, a lot of effort and a lot of money on the opioid crisis. >> reporter: the white house called it a distinction without a difference and the president said he was committed to reining in the abuse of painkillers and heroin. he said he would find a nonaddictive painkiller to replace opioid and launch a campaign to warn children to stay off drugs. >> if we can teach people and young people generally not to start, it's really, really easy not to take them. >> reporter: the president also grew reflective about his late brother fred and his alcohol addiction. >> i learned myself, i had a brother fred. great guy. best looking guy. best personality. much better than mine. but he had a problem. he had a problem with alcohol. and he would tell me, don't
drink. don't drink. he was substantially older and i listened to him. >> craig ross who lost his son to a heroin overdose supports the president on his promise to crackdown on the epidemic. >> i commend the president and first lady for letting the struggling addicts of this country know that there's something that's going to be happening but i certainly wish that he had spoken more about what he -- how he plans to attack the epidemic by not providing additional funding. >> reporter: the president also talked about the wall being build in mexico. >> 90% of the drugs comes from south of the border where we'll be building a wall which will greatly help in this problem. >> reporter: meanwhile today the white house is trying to deliver on another campaign promise,
cutting taxes. big news, budget just passed, the president hailed on twitter. the house passed a new budget today following the senate last week, now paving the way for a full debate on tax reform. wolf, the white house is also just saying moments ago during a conference call on a different subject here, we're getting new information on the release of those secret jfk files that we've been waiting for all day. the white house is not going to be releasing all of these documents. we're told that the president has decided to follow the recommendations of the fbi and the cia to redact some of these files for a six-month review period. so they will be releasing some of these, some 2800 pages or so, but perhaps not the most sensitive ones because there are concerns within the government at the fbi and the cia that there are still top secret information in these documents. so we are learning the president will be issuing a memo shortly that is going to be lifting the
veil on some documents but perhaps not the entire documents that we thought were going to be released today. wolf? >> it's interesting, jeff, that not all of the documents, even 53 years later, are going to be released. yesterday the president tweeted the long release of the jfk files will take place tomorrow. so interesting. so what happened between yesterday and today? why did they decide all of a sudden not to release some of the more sensitive documents? >> reporter: wolf, there's been a fierce debate going on inside the government from the top levels of the fbi and cia asking the president at the white house to not release some of these top secret classified documents. as you said, they have been classified for some 53 years or so. so it looks like their argument prevailed on this president. just a short time ago, a top administration official was explaining to reporters on a conference call that the president decided to decide in
favor of their argument from the fbi and cia to not release this at this time. but it's -- everything is going under a 180-day review period. so some of the redacted information will be reviewed and perhaps will be released next year. so this is certainly not everything the president promised yesterday and indeed many of his supporters, like roger stone and others, were calling on the president to release everything. but now we know that the president is actually listening to his advisers at the fbi and cia to not release all of these documents, at least not right now, wolf. >> very interesting indeed. comes as a pretty big surprise. we were anticipating all of those documents were finally going to be released today. tom foreman is with us as well. tom, you've been doing work in this area, a lot of research. walk us through exactly what you are hearing right now. >> well, basically the president is saying that he wants to give as much access as possible but
he's had these warnings from these various agencies, cia and fbi primarily among them, that you can possibly do irreversible harm to national security to pour it all out there right now without these redactions. specifically, there seems to be concern over individuals who have worked with "time" as informants or unknown informants to the cia or fbi, law enforcement sources that may also be involved somehow and overall foreign relations. although you do have to ask, wolf, when you talk about several months here of review of this material, this has been planned for decades. decades. and now at the 11th hour, we're being told they need another 180 days to review. there's going to be a lot of scrutiny over that, no question. >> let me bring phil mudd into this as well. you used to work at the fbi and cia. why after all of these years
they seek this last-minute effort to prevent these documents from being released what potentially -- what kind of information could be contained there? >> wolf, i'm going to bet this is about protecting people. it's not about whether there's a plot that the american people don't understand. it's people. back after this assassination, you can guarantee that the fbi and cia were talking to everybody they knew overseas in countries like russia, cuba, mexico, about what happened and whether they had information in these foreign governments about the assassin. those conversations might have been with government officials and might have been with paid informants. some of those informants are alive today and the concern that the cia would have would be releasing identities of the informants. it's not that simple, though. what do you tell a child, we're going to reveal that your day was a spy for the cia? and finally, information.
what if there is information released about someone in latin america about lee harvey oswald and it's so specific that that government can say i know decades ago who would have provided that to the americans. i think the debate, the bottom line, is about protecting identities so the americans keep to the people who provided information in the 1960s. >> you know what they do when they release sensitive documents like that with names of individuals, they simply black out or redact the name and release the document. they've had decades to do that. why not just do that, release the documents but redact the sensitive names? >> a couple things. one makes sense and one doesn't. first, i mentioned a moment ago, it's not just about names but whether there's information that could only have been provided by a couple of people in a foreign government, information so specific about, for example, knowledge of a foreign government, of lee harvey
oswald's movement that the government can now 53 years later say i'm going to find out who did that and reveal that publicly. hugely embarrassing. the second piece is not comprehensible. this has been under discussion for many, many months. what i'm guessing is going on here is the white house and cia and fbi have a difference of opinion and only recently has it boiled up to people like cia director pompeo and they had to weigh in with a phone call to the white house saying, don't put this stuff out. i don't care what the president says. if you put it out, it's going to be highly embarrassing. >> it's been 25 years. they knew this date was coming up, the date today that they had to release all of the documents. it's not as if they only had a week or two to think about it and only yesterday the president said they would be released. stand by a moment. tom foreman, the conspiracy theories are going to multiply as a result of this last-second delay, aren't they? >> of course they are.
the reason this release was to happen was because of oliver stone's film in 1991, which was a conspiracy theory film about this. people say we have to know the truth here, that this rule was put into place, that all of the information had to be released. now all of these years later it's once again not being released. yes, the conspiracy theorist will go crazy over this and in that sense they have a right to because it does seem to defy logic that you can have so long to get ready and we're truly down to the final hours saying, well, now we can't do it. so, yeah, they are going to go crazy over this. i'm not saying that they're justified but it's going to have that effect. >> we're going to continue to follow this breaking news. the white house, the president of the united states, a last-minute decision not to release certain documents related to the assassination of john f. kennedy. there's also other breaking news we're following right now. cnn has learned that two top
democrats with key roles in the presidential campaign deny that they knew about payments for opposition research leading to that dossier on donald trump. let's go to manu raju who is working this story for us. you're getting new details from your sources? >> reporter: we're learning that john podesta, the former clinton campaign chairman and debbie wasserman schultz who ran the dnc met behind closed doors with the senate intelligence committee and they were asked in separate interviews this fall whether or not the clinton campaign and dnc had any ties to that opposition research firm fusion gps which led to the production of the dossier. and what they said is they had no knowledge of any ties between the clinton camp and fusion gps as well as no knowledge that the
dns and fusion gps. this races the stakes and it's the first time we're learning about them, telling staff members of a key congressional committee and they have to tell the truth when they speak to these members and members now want to learn more about this because it's now been revealed that the clinton campaign and the dnc did in fact pay for at least part of this effort by fusion gps. now, this comes as across the capitol, wolf. devin nunes has been going after fusion gps trying to get more information about their funding source and all of his activities are ruffling feathers on an investigation that has been stymied by partisan fighting. partisan tensions are growing on the house intelligence committee with key republicans asserting it's almost time to bring the russia investigation to a close. but the top democrat on the committee, adam schiff, contends
that republicans are rushing key witnesses through the panel and they need to continue methodically, even if that means through next year. republicans are pushing back. >> i don't know what adam is talking about. >> reporter: they say the panel has interviewed major witnesses, like the president's son-in-law jared kushner, trump's personal attorney, michael cohen and brad and roger stone. all denied any collusion with the russians. >> as far as i'm concerned, all of the questions have been answered. these people come in for two hours and they are willing to stay for three, four, five hours. so far i can tell you now one bit of evidence has come out so if congress wants to carry this on forever, it's a disservice to the country and to congress. >> reporter: but democrats say more information continues to emerge requiring further scrutiny. like president trump son's
meeting with operatives after promised dirt on the clinton campaign. he's been yet to be interviewed by the committee. >> there's been a quality where donald trump or donald trump's people, paul manafort, michael flynn, have made blanket denials about behavior that then turns out to not be true. because you have to apply scrutiny to every statement made by the campaign and the president, it's slowed things down. >> reporter: another example, new revelations at the analytics firm employed by the trump campaign tried to access e-mails from wikileaks giving the panel another area to investigate. democrats argue that the gop chairman of the committee devin nunes is sidetracking the probe and just announced a new investigation into an obama-era uranium deal with the russians, something that could put the spotlight back on the clintons. this, despite nunes announcing
in april that he was going to step down about his handling of the classified intelligence. >> he committed to stepping aside and recusing himself from the investigation but has not done that and so that is a real problem that we have to grapple with every day. >> reporter: republicans say that the russia investigation has been exhausted and has yet to prove the democrat's case that russians colluded with trump associates. >> once you start hearing the same thing over and over again, i think that that's when you can, with clear conscience, come to a conclusion and wrap it up. >> do you think that will happen by the end of the year? >> i hope so, unless something new comes out that we need to keep diving into or take a different angle, i think that by the end of the year it would be, you know, a good time. >> reporter: now, wolf, devin nunes has pushed back against the suggestion that he stepped
aside or fully recused himself from this situation. he said he only temporarily stepped aside and in the meantime he's been going after not only fusion gps but launching his own probes and pushing on the issue of unmasking classified intelligence reports and really leading to democrats saying that he is sidetracking, undercutting this investigation, even potentially draining resources from this investigation and at a key moment and nunes himself pushes back and says he never said he was going to fully step aside. he said that he could come back in the investigation at any time, wolf. >> a lot of information there at the house intelligence committee. manu raju, thanks for that report. democratic congressman eric swalwell is joining us. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me back. >> let me start, first of all, do you believe that hillary clinton, her campaign chair, john podesta, the then chair of the dnc, the democratic national
committee, debbie wasserman schultz, that none of them knew that the campaign and the dnc were funding this opposition research that led to that controversial dossier? >> wolf, i don't know what they knew but i think it's important to understand who paid for the dossier but that's not as important as what's alleged. because if what's alleged is true, that donald trump and his team were working with the russians to win the election, then it doesn't matter who paid for it. we now have a national security issue on our hands with the president who could be compromised. so i think it's important to get those questions out of the way but i wish my colleagues and the majority were more concerned about corroborating or repudiating the serious allegations. >> based on what you know, all of the serious allegations in that dossier, how much of it, from your perspective, has been corroborated? >> it's amazing, wolf, because it's information that has come outside of the dossier. we've found intend to work with
the russians. you see the june 9th e-mail, subject, clinton/russian private information. peter sater, close to putin, subject line, putin/trump, sater says we can engineer this so that our boy can win. we just need to get putin and trump together. roger stone working with the russians saying that john podesta is about to spend his time in the barrel. you also have now just yesterday julian assange admitted that the trump campaign contacted him because they wanted hillary's hacked e-mails and, of course, peter smith, who was reaching out to the russians saying he was working on behalf of michael flynn to try to get e-mails. overwhelming evidence so far about intent to work with the russians. still a lot of work to do. >> because it was cambridge analytica that reached out to the wikileaks founder julian
asaung a assange to try to get those hillary clinton e-mails that she had on a private server while she was secretary of state. >> and we haven't heard from them yet. so you're saying there is hard evidence of collusion right now between the trump campaign and the russians? you heard all of those republicans on your committee saying there's no evidence at all of any collusion. >> evidence has to be tested and developed and compared to other witness accounts. but right now, there is evidence that the trump campaign, the family and the businesses, wanted to work with the russians. can't draw any conclusions yet but there is a lot of evidence just outside of the dossier and outside of the classified information that we have reviewed. >> your republican colleagues want to wrap it up by the end of this year. is that realistic? >> i hope so. i'd love to wrap it up as long as we can do it comprehensively. right now we have witnesses who come in voluntarily. they set their own terms as to what questions they are going to answer. they get up and leave when they want to leave and don't turn over the documents that we're asking for. i don't think that's how you conduct an investigation but i'm hopeful that they understand the
seriousness of this and let's get it done as soon as possible before the next midterm election. >> who else do you want to hear from? >> michael flynn. >> who was for about a month his national security adviser? >> yes. don jr., felix sater and i don't think it should take having the president come in because he's implicated in a lot of these communications. >> you've called for an independent russia investigation. do you not have faith in your committee, the house intelligence committee, senate intelligence committee, the judiciary committee, the special counsel robert mueller, they're all investigating all of this. why do you also need an independent investigation? >> and i appreciate those investigations and democrats on the committee are working doggedly. however, i do think that we saw after the september 11th commission that when you take this outside of the capitol, try to depoliticize it and put
bipartisan handle of truths on it, you get to the truth. this has become too politicized. my republican colleagues have been too infurious. the 9/11 commission didn't come into place until a year after the attack. there's still time for us to do it. elijah cummings and i have written legislation to do that. >> stand by. more we need to discuss. we're following the breaking news. we'll take a quick break and be right back. is pretty amazing. it can transform a frog into a prince. and sadness into happily ever after. but it can't transform your business. for that, you need dell technologies. 7 technology leaders now working together under one name. we're transforming jet engines into turbo-powered safety inspectors. dairy cows into living, breathing, data centers.
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breaking news, we're standing by for the release of some of the secret files on the assassination of president john f. kennedy. president trump backtracked on his promise to release all of the files today. not all of the files will be released and some will not be released waiting another six months or so for the documents to be released, apparently in the opposition of both the cia and fbi. much more on this breaking news story. that's coming up. in the meantime, we're back with democratic congressman eric swalwell of the house intelligence committee. i want to get your reaction to the testimony, the interview you did the other day with michael cohen, the president's friend, his long-time personal attorney. he apparently answered all of the questions you asked. did he successfully debunk, from your perspective, the allegations against him in that secret and not so secret
dossier? >> he's a highly relevant witness and i can't go into what he said but, wolf, he's relevant because the president said all along throughout the campaign and during the transition period, i never had any dealings with the russians, never tried to do business with the russians and, of course, we learned through correspondence that the president was trying to build a trump tower in moscow during the presidential campaign. but i think most concerning and what really, you know, illuminates why we're investigating this was correspondence with felix sater who is close to putin and he's saying we can get donald trump and putin together, we can engineer this and we can make our boy president. and so that shows that they are mixing business, because felix sater is involved in the trump tower deal and politics in
moscow. >> they told me the other day that he thought cohen did answer all of the questions they asked him and it may not be necessary to invite him in for more questioning. >> i can tell you, wolf, i felt like it was a productive interview for us. i hope we don't have to bring him back. we want to move this forward. i'm mostly concerned that if we don't resolve this before the next election, that the russians will be able to, you know, use the discord and disunity we're seeing in congress so they can sharpen their knives and attack us again in the midterms. >> so from your perspective, he's fully cooperative? >> he answered our questions, yes. and we're going to review his testimony against other witnesses and perhaps ask for more documents but i felt like it was productive and i disagreed with any account that it was contentious. >> the chairman of the house intelligence committee, devin nunes, he's the republican. he's now all of a sudden involved in various aspects related/maybe unrelated.
the uranium deal back in 2010 in which the russians had access to u.s. uranium and that's a big issue and hillary clinton was part of the committee that signed off on it. how contentious is it right now that devin nunes, who supposedly removed himself from the russia investigation, is now very much involved in various aspects? >> it's misguided energy on his part but, at worst, it's disruptive. by doing this and by taking us back in time to reopen investigations, all he does is, again, he reduces our ability to protect our democracy and tell the american people what the russians did. the american people are going to need an awareness of what kind of campaign the russians had. the federal resources that we had that we could devote to the states, the ballot boxes are secured and all of that is threatened if we have this discord among our leaders. devin nunes shouldn't be anywhere near the investigation. the only person in the world that could stop him is paul ryan. i wish paul ryan would say
you're recused from the russia investigation. wolf, we do other nonrussia related investigations and i think devin nunes is jeopardizing his ability to work with us. >> he's moving forward and the informant who allowed them to get access to ur raanium, he wa barred from testifying and now he's allowed to appear before, i assume, your committee, right? >> that's what i've read in the press. i'm open to looking at that and what the russians did but chairm chairman nunes is putting that ahead of our investigation and the russians haven't left. they are still here and they are sharpening their knives doing a lessons learned campaign and i think we should all agree, we don't want to be in a mess like this again. we are in a mess of our democracy. >> twitter has now banned ads from russia. the russian tv network sputnik
only happening now. is it too late? why now? i know you've looked closely into all of this. >> because we know that sputnik and rt are working hand in hand with russian intelligence services. they were used by the russians in the 2016 campaign to run fake news and to help donald trump. we have to be careful not to infringe upon free speech but russian intelligence services don't enjoy free speech in our country. we're going to have an open hearing, wolf. we just announced it today. we're bringing in twitter and facebook and other social media platforms. we will talk about how we can be more aware. >> i'm sure you'll have extensive coverage of that as well. eric swalwell, thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. president trump backtracking on his promise to release all of the secret files on the john f. kennedy assassination. they were all supposed to be
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agencies are recommending those records be redacted. let's begin with our reporters and specialists. jeffrey toobin, in 1992, they passed a law saying today all the documents have to be released. yesterday the president tweets they will all be released today. all of a sudden in the last few hours they decide, you know what, they're not all going to be released. it's pretty extraordinary. >> i don't think it's just extra ordinary. they've had decades to deal with this and, you know, this instin t instinctive desire is so ingrained, the idea that they can't be released at this point is absurd and i think it's really disappointing that the agencies are behaving this way. they've had plenty of time. they should have done it long
ago. >> a senior u.s. official that used to work in the cia and fbi told one of our white house reporters that this was a very, very messy process today. the white house didn't receive these final requests until sometime earlier in the day. the deadline had been set for decades. there was a lot of pressure on the president. you have to change this. we can't do it. and all of a sudden, even though he tweeted yesterday, the long-anticipated jfk files will be released tomorrow. so interesting. why are they waiting until only a few hours before the deadline to appeal to the president, don't do it? >> i can figure out why there's a problem here. simply put, the white house, and i've been in this situation, they say we want full transparency. the cia is saying, hey, if you identify somebody we spoke with, even if it's 50-plus years ago and they and their family are still alive, you're not only embarrassing them, you may put them at risk.
the appropriate question you raised is what took so long? >> right. >> i think it's a policy process. the white house comes into power less than a year ago. they start working on 67 different priorities. this isn't one of them. when they finally get to this priority, the cia says, hey, i understand you have a deadline. we're going to take a lot of information out of those documents. the white house looks at the documents and says, no, we're not comfortable with this. they're not transparent. they fight, fight, fight, mike pompeo realizes we only have a little time left. the staff didn't prepare this right. it's not going to be ready. >> it's a major blunder because they knew for decades that today was the day. >> i know. it's ridiculous. it kind of reminds me of geraldo's vault, al capone, where is he? and they now in 180 days, the question is are they going to be able to get all of this done and are they going to be able to provide the kind of documents the president expected, in fact,
that he was going to see or is there going to be a discussion that should have occurred a while ago about what the concerns are. i don't understand why this kind of last-minute requests from intelligence and law enforcement is coming, you know, in the 11th hour. >> they are going to release today -- they are going to go through the 2800 documents they will release today, presumably no sensitivities as far as sources and names of individuals. they released that. but it's pretty embarrassing that at the last minute like this -- let me get mark preston to weigh in. they have to tell the world, you know what, we're going to wait another 180 days at least to release these. >> this is something that should have been pro forma. it should have been easy. they had a deadline. this is information that had been around for a long time. but what i do think it shows, it shows a very inexperienced white house and if they have bungled this thing with records that are so old, my question is, what else is going on on some of the
major pressing issues right now that are facing the nation, whether it's our national security, whether it's talks about changing some of our big domestic tax reform and health care, what is going on with these issues? >> can i just say, i'm prepared to blame the trump administration and the trump white house for everything. this is not on trump. this is not on the white house. this is on the intelligence agencies. you know, they're the one who is should release this. and they're the one who is are coming up with what are very likely, i think, bogus explanations about why things can't be released. they're the ones who had the deadline long before donald trump was hosting the apprentice. so i just think it's their fault. >> they are slow walking this, obviously. and the question is why, right? >> time-out. time-out. so if there's somebody who revealed information secretly 50 years ago, we should dime them out today over the u.s. government gave them an oath they wouldn't do that? >> why didn't the white house
tell them that sooner? >> i assume they did. >> that's my issue now. and jeff, i understand what you're saying about how this goes to the heart of how did the white house not understand this when you have the president himself tweeting saying it's going to come out tomorrow. was there some disconnect there? they should have dialed it back from a strategic -- >> this is the most awkward, i think, for the cia, maybe the fbi that it was only today in a desperate move they came to the white house and said don't release these documents, very, very sensitive documents. we need more time to go through them and it was today they came with this last-minute appeal. >> heck, i'm not embarrassed at all. i can tell you what happens is when you're working at this staff level, below the level for cia director pompeo, you can tell the white house for six months, we ain't doing this. we can't reveal this page, we can't reveal this name and it
will allow the cubans to identify and the white house says, you can't do that. we're going to release it. the cia is not going to roll and mike pompeo says we're not rolling. i bet the white house knew this for a while, they thought the cia would roll, the cia said ain't happening. >> this could be a battle between trump who wants this stuff released. you know, he's interested in this, as we know from the campaign, right? he's interested in this so he wants it all released and the intelligence community, law enforcement agencies, whatever, are saying no and the president said yes. >> or maybe didn't investigate the details. >> once again, only yesterday, only yesterday, jeffrey, the president tweeted the long-anticipated release of the jfk files will take place tomorrow. so interesting. he didn't say most of the files would be released. he didn't say a lot of the files would be released. he said all of the files.
finally, after 53 years, would be released. >> obviously someone was not communicating with the president very well or he wasn't listening to what people were telling him because he said it was going to happen today. it didn't happen today. that's all we know for sure. >> i'm sure he's not happy. >> awkward moment. you know, i want to get to something else before we run out of time. the president -- gloria, you've done a lot of work, a documentary, as we all know. >> thank you. >> but the president yesterday was boasting about how intelligent and smart he is. it's not the first time he's done this. take a look. >> you know, i went to the wharton school of finance. i did great. guarantee i have a vocabulary than all of them, certainly most of them. i know i have a better iq than all of them. i guarantee you my iq is higher than these people. my uncle was one of the great
professors at m.i.t. good genes. we believe in that, right? >> i'm smarter than they are. i'm a smart guy. i went to the wharton school of finance. i tell you what, if putin likes me and he thinks i'm a good, smart person, i hope he believes that. actually, i am brilliant. you know that, right? putin says trump is brilliant. i love it when he says i'm brilliant. putin said trump is brilliant. he's the ba, ba, ba. i don't know if he means it. i don't care. i like it, okay? so i said, i think very intelligently, i go to wharton, i'm smart, you're smart. and i keep hearing about global warming. they say, you don't understand. let's do an iq test. i'm not a big e-mail person. you know why? i'm intelligent. i went to an ivy league school. i'm a good person. i'm a very smart person. trust me, i'm like a smart person. you know, people don't
understand, i went to an ivy league college, i was a nice student, i did very well. i'm a very intelligent person. >> gloria, you have spent a lot of time studying the president of the united states. what's up with this. >> i don't know. i think he wants us to know he's a and a i think he talks about it a little bit too much. how many people do you guys know who talk about how smart they are all the time? >> anybody that talks about how smart they are means they're really not that smart. let me just say, i know i'm not very smart. simple. he's brilliant, i'm george clooney. i think he has brains to deal here. the real serious question is where he chooses to apply those brains. is it to branding the trump presidency or thinking about north korea? >> jeffrey, you've been on this program for years and years. tell the viewers where you went the college?
>> what? i'm not doing that, wolf. that's ridiculous. i'm not a line tick. i'm not going to talk about. all i want are those clips in a time capsule so people 50 years from now understand this man was actually president of the united states. and that's how he talks about himself. i've never met anyone who talks like that. it's ridiculous. it's just so crazy. i mean, i, any way, i'm sorry. >> you do know, you went to the finest schools, too. >> i went to very good schools. >> finest schools. all right, guys. there's a lot more going on. more news we're following including how the us navy's newest stealth attack submarine a growing threat for north korea.
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new tonight, details of the us navy's newest submarine that could give the u.s. a critical edge when it comes to keeling with the north korean nuclear threat. brian todd is working the story for us. this is a stealth submarine. >> tonight, we are getting new details on the new capabilities of this fast attack american submarine. the uss south dakota. if it's deployed near the korean peninsula, it will have the capability to launch tomahawk
missiles. for kim jong-un, it's a dangerous new weapon to worry about. >> may god bless her and saul ta sail in her. >> a 360 foot long 8,000 ton menace that could face off with kim jong-un. behind that scaffolding, america's newest fast attack submarine, the uss south dakota. it's a virginia class sub like this and will be ready to enter the fleet by late next year with stealth capability. >> it's one of newest and quietest ships we have in the world today with regard to submarines. >> if it deploys in the pacific, the south dakota will likely at some point sail near the korean peninsula to counter an ambitious submarine program deployed by kim jong-un. >> they've been trying to develop their own submarine capability. they tested it. they're going to get to the point where they can potentially
launch intercontinental or some level of ballistic missile that could be nuclear tipped. >> kim has already test launched missiles from a submarine. recent imagery shows a sub undergoing what could be some important upgrades. cnn has learned the south dakota, like others in the virginia class, will be able to launch tamme toma hawk missiles and deploy navy s.e.a.l.s. they could be deployed in a situation where we don't trust the other capabilities of intelligence gathering. we want to verify that or if we want to verify the north koreans are telling us something, we want to necessarily have someone who could put eyes on the ground, eyes on target to verify that. clearly, it's a highly dangerous mission. >> in what would be a cold war style cat and mouse game with north korean submarines, experts say, the stealth capability could make the difference between life and death. >> even the humans that live on board them are trained to be quiet.
so that they put the least amount of noise into the water. we often joke you know, with railro regard to these boats, how loud are they, well, how loud is your flashlight? >> u.s. officials and outside expertds say it's not just the north korean's submarine threat that the u.s. now has to counter. they say china and russia are rapidly improving the technology and lethality of their submarine fleets and they're getting more and more aggressive as we know. wolf, the russians in the atlantic, but also in the pacific theatre. >> and north korea, as we know, not so long ago was very aggressive with one of its own subs. >> right. north korea has fired a submarine weapon in anchor. just seven years ago, they fired a torpedo and sank this south korean frill gat. 46 south korean sailors were killed. fast nor backyard to now, kim jong-un is now developing the capability to fire ballistic missiles to his submarines.
>> significant developments. >> thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, breaking news. disturbing new detail about the deadly niger ambush. a source at the scene says the u.s. soldiers wore t-shirts and baseball caps with just one machine gun to face 50 isis fighters. plus, why was a company hired by trump reaching out to wikileaks, which of course is in bed with the russians? tonight, new information on what they did for trump and more breaking news the this hour. president trump promised all of the jfk filed tonight. a sudden hold up. what doesn't the government want you to know? tonight, the breaks news. we are learning stunning new detail about the isis ambush i