issues and i hope the media covered that at length, and the president said many times if there's something to work on with russia, if we can work together to defeat isis once and for all. >> he's opposed for the uranium deal? >> you are saying the president is worried and uncomfortable? he didn't make half a million-dollar speech in russia. >> your white house has been talking about it a lot. i want to know what is it that bothers you about it? >> zero. what bothers me about it is we can't get all of you who have been obsessed with russia, russia, to report on the other shoe -- >> what that shoe? >> uranium one was covered at length, and i talked about it -- >> you don't think that should have happened, is that the
problem? >> i think that's what people hate about corruption and the swamp. it's not difficult for people to connect the dots, you have one spouse giving half a million-dollar speech, and another spouse at secretary of state, and getting advantage as she's secretary of state, and then voila, 20% of the uranium rights go to russia special interests. cnn polling showed a majority did not trust or think hillary clinton was trustworthy is because of deals like this. >> there were nine -- it was not just the state department, and are you saying all these agencies somehow had a vested interested in inreaching hillary clinton or the clintons, everybody was in on it, the department of defense and
everybody and that's why they let the uranium one deal go through? >> i did not say that. i think those of you should continue to look at it from this angle, and since you and i have been talking, two americans have died of an overdose, and i'll come back. >> kellyanne, hold on. let's talk about it for one second about the opioid crisis. i know you have to go, but the president talked personally about his own family's struggles with addiction and his brother and how it affected him so much, and so do you feel now that the federal government is giving enough money to try and fight this crisis? >> so this president has already spent $1 billion this year, and in addition through the health american emergency act that he
used yesterday as a vehicle to make good on his national emergency declaration, he's calling upon congress to appropriate the money. do you know in the senate health bill where we could not get a vote, there was $45 billion especially just for opioids. those who are asking for the money, i have to ask them, you have people in your state suffering and who will become addicted and misuse opioids and other drugs, why did you turn a blind eye to that money, the $45 billion in the health bill, and a lot of people don't know that because it doesn't get covered. people can pull up the remarks and information and be happy to provide it to you and your viewers anytime. this takes money and it takes a full effort on prevention and education and treatment and recovery and fentanyl is coming in from china, and the president committed to raising this with the president of china when he
sits down with him in the next month on his asia trip. heroin is coming in through the southern border, and a lot of people in this country get hooked and it starts in mom and dad's medicine cabinet and it has your family doctor and local pharmacy on the label, and that was meant to help somebody at some point. if that were happening through a terrorists action or planes falling from the sky, cnn would stop all of their coverage and we would be talking about that, so let's start talking about that. let's get democrats on board as well, because people in their states and communities are suffering as well. the first lady being involved on prevention education, and i had the privilege of going to west virginia two weeks ago and watched her meet at a place that administers care to newborns who are independent. i thank you for giving it a
little bit of time and space today. >> we will have chris christie on, and we will talk about it all with him, because it reaches every family in this country, my own included. kellyanne conway, thank you very much for going through all of this with us. >> thank you. fascinating interview. let's welcome our viewers, by the way. it's after 8:00 right now. joining us now, jeffrey toobin and dana bash. i don't know where to begin -- >> neither do i. >> there's an incredible double standard from the white house and kellyanne conway on a range of issues when it has to do with the russian investigation. what you heard there is alisyn pressing her about cambridge analytica, these people that worked for the trump campaign and reaching out to kelly weeks, and what you heard from
kellyanne conway, that doesn't matter. but anything that clinton did with the research, oh, that matters a lot. when donald trump jr. is having a meeting with people from russia, that's not a problem, that's opposition research. really interesting double standard. >> i think what she's trying to do is kind of flip the way you just described it by saying you guys are so focussed on russia when it comes to us, but if you care that much let's focus on now what we know the democrats were involved with, which is paying for the dossier in the first place. this is not an easy topic. she is probably, as you have learned over the interviews that you have done with her, both of you, masterful at turning it around. i think at the end of the day, though, she did make clear if you can kind of read through
some of the spin that she clearly -- well, here's my read. she was uncomfortable with this. i have spoken to other people on the campaign -- >> she said she didn't know about it. >> that doesn't surprise me. if it turns out she's not telling the truth, she's in big trouble. it doesn't surprise me because i spoke with other people who should have known it but didn't. >> that's her superpower, flipping the switch. we had to make a rule, as you heard, not to talk about hillary clinton, because that's their automatic default. >> which she promptly broke. remember, this whole uranium thing comes from fox news. this is a closed investigation that came up in the book in 2015, and it was -- >> it's from 2010, by the way. >> the book came out in 2015. the book came out in 2015. it was one of the accusations.
it has been discredited. two years later, fox news and republicans in congress and republicans in the white house start raising it simply as a way to wave russia back at the democrats. there's no new information here. you have the president of the united states, apparently, according to cnn reporting intervening with the justice department saying get us more witnesses on this. this is precisely why in the post nixon era there were rules in place to get the white house out of criminal investigations. they are not supposed to be involved in making those sorts of decisions. this white house is changing the rules. >> she did not deny the white house weighed in, she did not deny for a second the president weighed in. >> i spoke to democrats on the committee that said if there's a
new piece of information, let's hear it. if this fbi informant/whistle blower wants to talk about something, let's hear it. this doesn't mean this is where are the story is. >> just in terms of what you were saying about the double standard, the department of justice did crack down on two top fbi agents who -- or officials who wanted to testify to the senate judiciary committee about the comey firing. they are not free to go and talk about that, to the same committee, but they want to lift the gag order on the fbi informant. >> that's true. you and i tried not to let out an audible gasp, but what really struck me is when kellyanne conway said i was the campaign manager, i couldn't be bothered with anything like that, and what she's saying, i was worried
about the big picture and i am not worried about some guy from cambridge analytica trying to get in touch with julian assange. that may be true, but on the democratic side, john podesta, who was the campaign chair also did not know his campaign was paying for this dossier. if you believe that and that's how you run a campaign, you have to accept that's the truth for the other side. >> she inoculated him or gave him a way out for all the republicans that say how could you not know. >> john podesta was the chairman, not the manager. the chairman does a lot of fund-raising. robby mook was the manager, and he would be the one expected to know about how opposition research was paid for. i think it's much more important that we find out what robby mook knew about this rather than
podesta, and debby wattserman schultz, i don't know what she would know about this. >> if they are helpful and real world partners, russia, as trump said, why are we so exercised about the uranium one in the white house? >> because it's a chance to criticize hillary clinton. >> yeah, i know that. >> it's a chance to criticize hillary clinton. the people who are obsessed with this don't want to believe that there was not pay for play, because this is what it's all about, that hillary clinton did somehow involve herself accept this deal in order to enrich herself, and now the clinton campaign says they went through this, and there was no way that
this guy could have made money, and i will not get into the details of that, but regardless, let's just take a step back and look at the politics. republicans are trying to get their sea legs here. they have been -- from the perspective of a lot of conservatives, letting the democrats run the show on the russia investigation, and that's why you see fox and other conservative outlets saying we have some quivers here that we could start to shoot and let's start doing it. >> the merits are important on this uranium deal. the whole hypothesis is that hillary clinton rewarded this donor to the clinton foundation by giving this contract. first of all, there were nine agencies involved, and he had sold his interests in the company by the time the contract was awarded. so the idea that there was pay for play here is not credible.
>> we will see. if the republicans can't get anything more than what you just said out of the informant, then they just closed their own case. >> but they got us talking about it, which is a victory. >> thank you very much. great to see you guys. president trump tweeting about the government releasing most but not all of the documents on the kennedy s assassination. not all the tiles wefiles were soerbgs what is missing. >> what is missing, alisyn, thousands of documents. the president just tweeted jfk files are being carefully released. it's my hope to get just about everything to public. while of these 2,800 records we are now seeing, they are very interesting but disappointingly
incomplete. for decades conspiracy theories questioned whether lee harvey oswald acted alone. in a newly released memo, hoover expressed concerns americans would not believe he was the only shooter. the declassified documents shedding light on oswald's contacts with russia and cuba. there was a call intercepted at the russian embassy in phemexic. the fbi documenting a separate conversation between two cubans, and one said oswald must have been a good shot, and another
saying he was quite good, and asked why he said that, the officer said i knew him. >> had a lot of information before the assassination to suggest that this man, oswald, was a danger. >> another suspenseful cliff-hanger, whether oswald worked for the cia. the deputy cia director under kennedy was asked whether oswald was an agent before the document suddenly ends without an answer. even kennedy's successor, johnson. johnson claimed kennedy was killed for pay back for the assassination of vietnam's president, and this was justice, and even though helm said there was no evidence of this claim in records, but a memo from hoover three years after kennedy was killed details reaction inside the soviet union including
conspiracy theories of their own, namely johnson himself was behind kennedy's death, the source saying the ussr believed there was well-organized conspiracy on the ultra right in the united states to affect a coup. a day before oswald was killed hoover says the fbi office in dallas received a phone call from a man talking in a calm voice and saying he was a member of a committee organized to kill oswald and shared that information with the dallas police chief who assured us adequate protection would be given, however this was not done. oswald's killer, jack ruby, maintained he acted alone and denied making the call. a white house official telling cnn the president was unhappy of the level of retkabgtions
requested by intelligence agencies saying they were not meeting the spirit of the law. >> here is what is head scratching about this. the intelligence agencies have had years to govern the law. president trump has given them 180 more days to, again, look at their reasons, to rereview the reasons for requesting information be withheld so more documents may see the light. >> six months until the really juicy stuff. >> want to break in a jfk historian and fbi analyst who was involved in the assassination investigation and the custodian for the record of
the investigation. and the author of "cruel and shocking act:the history of the kennedy assassination." what was revealed overnight that we should focus on the most? >> well, i think the overreaching conclusion that i came to yesterday is that the government delivered a very poor response to a 1992 law. i mean, if everybody wants to believe the government was behind killing president kennedy, yesterday's action on the document production was exhibit a on poorly they executed that. in the files themselves, one of the things that i think will shock most people is that the central intelligence agency had more information on oswald than they let the warren commission and the fbi know as well as the american people. most people are completely surprised that the cia had, as
an expensive investigation on lee harvey oswald that they did. >> let's break that down. we learned what oswald was doing in mexico city in the weeks prior to the assassination, and it's one of the periods most interesting in the plot. he made a phone call to the soviet embassy. oswald called the soviet embassy speaking in broken russian stating above and asking if there was anything new concerning the telegram to washington. this is a guy that intelligence agencies knew stuff about before the 22nd. >> absolutely. after the assassination, the cia and the fbi were desperate to suggest that lee harvey oswald was a lone wolf and nobody could have stopped him because nobody
knew what was happening. the question is, didn't the cia have an inkling of that and why didn't the cia share that with washington? >> there's the issue of how much or if the cia was actually working in some capacity with lee harvey oswald, and maybe they created more questions than they answered last night. let me read an excerpt of mr. helms. he said is there information involved in the assassination of president kennedy that shows oswald was in some way an agent, dot, dot, dot, and the files released overnight bears no answer. we are left with the question wondering what the former cia director said. >> that's the biggest problem. if you don't read the entirety of the files -- i mean, it took me over nine years to read
500,000 records which we had in the core investigative files. if you are having to go and take in a piecemeal fashion a bit of information from one file and a bit of information from another file, you are going to come away from all of this completely overwhelmed, confused, and at best completely exasperated. when you have a question going unanswered, i mean, the chinese philosopher once said, if the answer seems impossible think of it as a question posed in the wrong way. we have a gigantic picture puzzle box and the cover and we are getting pieces after pieces without the ability to look at the picture box to make sense of all the records. >> do you think we reframe the way we look at any of the figures here during that
timeframe. j. edgar hoover, there are moments where he appears concerned about specific things. he was concerned -- he admitted the fact that the dallas police department was warned by the fbi that oswald might be killed when he was in custody, and he was murdered by jack ruby. we also hear this about his major concern about the public relations on oswald on november 24th. he goes, the thing i am most concerned about is having something issued so we can convince the public that oswald is the real assassin here. hoover is very concerned with the public perception. >> well, hoover was concerned about the survival of the fbi, and we see that from previously declassified files. after the assassination, he seemed to have been desperate to prove that oswald was the lone wolf and there was no way for anybody to stop him, when it looks like the fbi and cia had information that oswald should
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president trump declaring the opioid crisis a national public health agency but not committing new funds to battle the epidemic. congress will have to do that. joining us now is chris christie, the chairman of the commission on batting the crisis. the president called it a public health emergency. is that what you wanted? did it go far enough for you? >> it was. we said two options, to declare a national emergency under the public health safety act or the staffford act, and the staffford
is for hurricanes, and he chose the first one. we believe it's a health crisis and health and human services has to be the emergency coordinating the response. the president did exactly what we asked him to do yesterday and now it's up to congress to step up and put funds into the emergency fund which will give the president the maximum flexibility to district the funds to the states and get them on the ground to start fighting the fight. >> there are plenty of republicans that said it was good it went into the national emergency. and also, it would put it up for some on a higher pedestal in terms of how concern the government is. >> i would disagree. i don't think it could be on a higher pedestal than what the president did yesterday.
the president of the united states really speaking from the heart about how this crisis not only affects families around the country but his family. >> we have that example. let's play it for everybody who missed p missed it. >> i had a brother, fred, good-looking guy, and he had a problem with alcohol. he would tell me, don't drink. don't drink. he was substantially older and i listened to him and i respected, but he con ststantly would tell, don't drink, and don't smoke, and he would say it over and over and over again. >> like the president, like all of us, who have loved ones who struggle with the opioid kraoeus or adecktion, what changes today? >> one of the big things it has not been covered about, is the
president said he is waiving the older medicaid rules that are leaving thousands of treatment beds empty because federal medicaid won't match the state funds because of an old rule about psychiatric hospitals. in my state alone we have seven to 900 empty beds that could be filled by the poor medicaid recipients that need the treatment but can't get it because the federal government won't pay their share, and now they will. and yesterday requiring doctors to get continuing medical education. a doctor can get a license from the dea to write the prescriptions for opioids and never know how to treat addiction.
if a terrorists organization was killing 175 americans a day on our soil, we would look into how to make it stop. a lot of work to do but we are excited about issuing our final report next week. >> it does come next week. i think it's wonderful to have the national discussion and it's at the level it is, and let's talk about whether or not they are good or bad ideas. the president seems to focus on saying no, don't start. if it were that simple, we would not have the problem we have. you talked to so many people here, and is just say no effective? >> not just say no, but it's how you teach people about what is happening. four out of every five of heroin addicts start with prescription opioids. what we need to start telling people, just because it's in the
medicine cabinet doesn't mean it's safe for you, and just because you get 30 pills you don't have to take them. and national take back day is tomorrow, where you can bring back the drugs you have not used at police stations and fire departments all across the country. just say no has to be expanded. what it means, what does that mean. in a doctor's office is where that epidemic started in america. we need people to understand, it's not safe just because you didn't get it from a dealer. >> doctors need to take responsibility. >> yeah, this is so awful. we consume 85% of all the opioids in the world in in country. we are the most medicated country in the world, and it's unnecessary. what it has led to now is the
64,000 deaths last year. this is the medical crisis of our time. this is the aids epidemic of our generation, but even worse. the other thing i don't understand is why aren't people marching? i am old enough to remember the marches by aids patients and people that cared about that issue. these families need to be supported and that's what the commission is all about. >> let's talk politics. >> sure. >> while we have you. >> you got it. >> gop unity on a scale of one to ten, what do you give it? >> five. we are unified on a lot of issues but not on how to approach the issues, and if you are not unified on both you will not get things done. that's the big expression people express to me. we're a republican house and senate, and i have spent more time on the road, as you know, raising money and campaigning for folks, and i want to see tax reform and infrastructure built,
and i want to see these things done and we are not unified in how to go about it. >> the president says there's great unity, and we don't understand how much unity there is, and he's getting standing ovation, he says. >> i am sure that happened. you know what? he's right we are unified on the issues and the things we believe in in general, but we are not yet unified on how to get from point a to point b. governing is about getting things done, touchdowns in the end zones, and we are not done that yet. >> it's five years now from hurricane sandy, and the president's response to hurricanes, how do you grade it? >> b plus. here's why. in texas, you see the difference between the condition of the states or territories when the storm hit. in texas, you had pretty solid
infrastructure and a good level of experience in dealing with storms coming in, and i think so far an above average response in texas. florida, an excellence response. why? really experienced. intp infrastructure, resilient, and a governor that had gone through it before. puerto rico an infrastructure that was already crumbling, and an island that was bankrupt. not just functionally bankrupt, but really bankrupt. what the government is doing now is taking everything there -- they have to rebuild roads. i had a state department of transportation that had money to help rebuild roads in sandy that we lost. in puerto rico they don't. >> what about the water and food issues? why wasn't that faster in puerto rico? >> my understanding from talking to the white house and the governor is that there was plenty of water and food at the
docks and they couldn't get them to people, and the big part of that was the destruction of roads outside of san juan. it's a much less efficient way of doing that and you lose a lot of stuff in the process. i have been through it. everybody can second guess this stuff, and this is a lot harder than it looks and the resources have been brought to bare. will they rebuild puerto rico completely? >> 74% of the island is still without power, and having watched you for years i have a sense if you were governor of puerto rico you would not put up with 74% of the island being without power? >> i am glad i am not the governor of puerto rico because that infrastructure was brutal. almost every household in new jersey was without power for about two weeks in super storm sandy, and we were in a spot where i was calling governors who were having their folks drive their trucks from all
these different places, and really the practical problem was -- i sent more people to puerto rico, sandy-experienced people. the reports back to me are there's no way to get to people on the island. we had to wait for flights because the airports were compromised. the governor has taken the right approach. he's getting smarter every day about this issue. because you do. i did during sandy and he's doing it now. the relationship with the white house is really good and they trust him. i think you will see this getting more and more rapid, but part of it is, you have to take what you get in terms of the condition of the place that got damaged. it's pretty bad. >> let's talk about what is next for you. january 16th is your last day as
governor. what are you going to do? >> don't know. i have not spent a lot of time working on it yet, but i know i will go back to the private sector for the first time in 16 years. >> we did see you on a different morning show doing the weather. >> i do not have weatherman -- i am a fun guy and i like to play along with others nicely. what i hope to do is go to the private sector. we have two more children, ages 17 and 14, to put through college, and our two older ones are already through, so i have wood to chop still. after 16 years in government, it's probably time for me to go back to the private sector and recharge my batteries that way. >> did your campaign pay for -- >> no, we didn't do any of that.
>> alisyn, listen, here's the deal i will make with you, if you and i do the entinterpetive dance, i'm in. you can hang a sign and it will be really nice. >> thank you. a houston police officer saves hundreds in the aftermath of hurricane harvey. how he hit a private struggle and went beyond the call of duty. tonight at 9:00 p.m. on the new hnl series, inside with chris cuomo. he talks to the lone medical examiner. just one in the area. take a look at this. >> what medical examiners do just fast tphaeucinates people. why do you think? >> i think it's morbid curiosity.
it's just the same reason people like to watch horror movies, which i do not. it's that curiosity of fear. >> wait a minute. you look at scenes on a regular basis that are horrific by definition. yet you will not watch horror movies? >> correct. >> why? >> that's the unknown. to me this is not, i know this, i know the patient on the table is not going to reach up and grab me.
>> the rain was coming down. >> the police officer headed to the only station he could get to. lake patrol right on lake houston. >> just seemed like apthe apocalypse. they wanted to bring everything with them, and you can only tell them to bring so much. >> officer ramon was in and out of water helping to rescue people working 12-hour shifts. >> you would see different emotions. >> how many people do you think you helped rescue? >> god, i don't know, 200, 300, easily. >> he never showed any signs of him having anything wrong with him. >> what is wrong with him, stage 4 colon cancer. he gets chemotherapy every two
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president trump's counselor, kellyanne conway, confirming to us on "new day" the president did want the gag ordered lifted for an informant. >> it's not unusual for a president to weigh in. this president, as you saw from everything from the jfk files from this investigation, is for transparency. he believes, as others do, the fbi informant should be free to say what he knows. >> joining us is senator blumenthal from connecticut and is a member of the judiciary
committee. are you comfortable with the president pressing for this fbi informant to appear in front of your committee? >> what is so striking of the president again intervening in the department of justice, it's part of a pattern of politicalization, he fired comey, and so this kind of interference in the department of justice is deeply troubling to me. >> so not illegal but disturbing, they are supposed to act independently? >> there were rules in the wake of the nixon improprieties that presidents would not interfere or intervene in ongoing investigations, or informants keeping them confidential
because they are necessary to protect people doing the investigation, and those norms seem to be violated? >> what do you do about that? >> our investigations into the political interference of firing comey and other possible oub strucktion of justice by the president will produce information, very important to the american people, and they will make judgments. >> are you anded in talking to the fbi informant about the uranium deal? >> i would be interested in talking to anybody and having people come to our committee under oath. >> do you still have questions about the uranium deal? >> the uranium deal is history, and the investigation was closed. if there's new information worthy of investigation, i would want to know about it. >> one of the confusing things kellyanne conway said, this is
transparency, but two fbi officials could not testify about the james comey firing, so the transparency seems to have a double stanford. >> the transparency may well have a double stanford, and that's the danger, and the public has a right to know, but the uranium deal, the gag order on informants in some ways are distractions, purposely thrown out by the white house because what is really important here is the report by the intelligence community, irrefutable and undisputable the russians attacked our democracy. that's what the investigation ought to concern insofar as the trump campaign may have colluded with it and now the president himself may have obstructed the investigation. >> that brings us to the infamous russian dossier that
was designed by political opponents to dig up compromising information they could on donald trump. podesta, debby wash. >> whether they paid for the dossier or not, again, this issue looks like another distraction. if there's information about their knowing, maybe that ought to become public as well. what i previous is that there was a dossier that had unverified information about donald trump, but unlike the cambridge analytica approach to wikileaks, it wasn't to solicit information from a foreign power, namely russia. >> kellyanne conway says it's still a foreign entity, a
british military intelligence officer. that's a foreign person. is this apple and apples? >> it's opposition research. the question is, it is relevant to russian meddling in our democracy. if it is, it ought to become part of the investigation, and if not my hope is the judiciary committee will focus on the potential collusion by americans, and if the russians are not made to pay a price for their hacking and interference in the democratic process, they will do it again. in fact, they are probably planning how to do it in 2018. >> thank you. cnn "newsroom" with poppy harlow today, because john is slacking, is going to pick up after this very quick break. have a great weekend. fibromyalgia may be invisible to others, but my pain is real. fibromyalgia is thought to be caused by overactive nerves.
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i am poppy harlow in new york. we begin with a line presidents are not supposed to cross, but it was crossed by trump. the white house was a powerful force to lift a gag order to allow an undercover informant to cooperate with a deal involving uranium sale. it was uranium, and a host of agencies look at all those of u.s. agencies that had to approve the sale, including the state department which was headed at the time by hillary clinton. what was not public knowledge back then in 2010 was a newly reported fbi investigation into shady russian dealings aimed at getting a foothold in the u.s. nuclear sector. there are a lot of dots to be connected.