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we're live in the cnn newsroom, thanks for being here. thanks for rolling with me this evening. i'm anna cabrera in new york and this time tomorrow, the very first arrests could be made in the special counsel investigation being led by robert mueller as we've been reporting, federal grand jury has now approved charges, but what those charges are and who they're against is sealed for now. so far, there is no official comment from the white house on the pending indictments. the president did have quite a few other things to stay, however, he tweeted this, all of this russia talk, right, when the republicans are making their big push for historic tax cuts and reforms, is this coincidental? not. he also unleashed a barrage of blistering attacks on hillary clinton and the democrats, referencing a witchhunt for
collusion he claims doesn't exist. and ordering republican lawmakers to quote, do something. now following those tweets, white house attorney ty cobb wanted to make clear that, quote, contrary to what many have suggested, the president's comments today are unrelated to the activities at the special counsel with whom he continues to cooperate. i want to get straight to my panel. crime and justice reporter, political analyst and white house correspondent for american urban radio networks and patrick heely. as we look ahead to tomorrow, it is important to note that mueller was building on intelligence from previous investigations. he didn't start from scratch. >> yeah. while he didn't start from scratch, we do know that he ordered some of the investigators of the fbi agents to go back and look at some new information or perhaps go over the information that they already had because he wanted it his own way.
as you just said, yeah, i mean the special counsel has been sitting on information that the fbi and other investigators have collected for well over a year since the fbi started this investigation which was way back last july. before the election. all of that information has been sitting with the mueller and a special counsel team. and then since then really, they've done a lot of their own work, brought in more prosecutors, but absolutely they've been sitting on this and they've had a lot of this information for months, for well over a year now. >> i want to make sure i'm understanding correctly because these indictments, they're sealed. the person or persons who could be arrested tomorrow, they may not know right now that they have even been charged, meaning there could be trump associates who know they're the focus of the probe going to bed tonight wondering if they could hear a knock at the door tomorrow, right? >> yeah, i mean that's pretty wild to hear, but yeah, that's absolutely true. there could be people who are facing charges that don't know,
and in the morning, early morning tomorrow, they will get a knock on their door from the fbi with an arrest warrant saying, hey, come with me, you're being arrested for whatever it may be. and then at that point, at some point within that hour or so, they'll be brought to an fbi office here in washington, d.c. where they'll call their attorneys and the process will begin. but that is, you know, a likely scenario. you know, we've also been told that some someone may surrender. we don't know exactly what's going to happen, absolutely there is the possibility that someone is going to sleep tonight and has no idea that they will be arrested in connection to this investigation. >> april, the president isn't necessarily tweeting about robert mueller, but he is spending a lot of time tweeting about what he called a witch hunt and pointing fingers and democrats, his attorney says that was not about the mueller probe. it has hit a nerve with the president. >> it's touched a nerve.
this president is very concerned, even though he's trying to deflect on twitter about what's happening. this is a very serious situation. and everyone was wondering when and if this would happen and it's happening now before our eyes. we just have to wait and see. we just don't know who -- but it is something. this could be one of the major nails that some are looking for to nail a coffin shut. this could begin the process of something linking to russia. >> as we know the president often encourages his supporters to watch fox news, he's close with a number of anchors there including jeanine pirro. listen to what she was pushing on her show this weekend. >> it's time, folks, it's time to shut it down, turn the tables, and lock her up. that's what i said, i actually said it, lock her up. >> so, we had a president that is getting increasingly
unpopular with his so-called base. the latest polls if you take a look at the wall street journal -- nbc news poll today shows with white college -- rather, white people without a college degree, it's down from 58% last month in just 51% approval. now, still the majority, but that's not, again, the 58% that it once was and it's dropped seven points. now could this, what we just heard from judge pirro there and the president's tweets today really be focussed on changing the momentum here and trying to unite republicans along with a common folk. >> that is the -- that is the wish that is maybe the fantasy of president trump and people like jeanine pirro that somehow if they say certain things enough, if they throw enough kind of red meat out the base, the base will just keep responding in this totally predictable way. you know, but here's the thing, i mean, president trump said we're going to be winning so much. we're going to be winning if you
put me in office. the reality is, he has not had the kind of legislative victories that a president, republican or democrat would usually have in the first year in office. and instead, he's going on about how the stock market is doing so great, but that doesn't often help a lot of the white male people who lack a college degree, who aren't in the market as much as some of those, you know, sort of wealthy supporters of president trump. look, he wants to be spending, any president would want to be spending his time right now focussed on his tax reform package on the asia trip. >> supposed to be about. >> the asia trip that's coming up at the end of the week. instead, he is going on twitter, jeanine pirro is going on fox news talking about hillary clinton again. they're not even talking about an agenda or things that could help those, those voters in the poll that you showed. they're not communicating, they're sort of going in this wishful kind of fantasy that
they hope, you know, will distract enough people probably from the big news that's coming >> april, republicans have started calling for muler to resign this week. wall street journal editorial board wrote this in a new op-ed, the washington post revealed tuesday that the hillary clinton campaign and the democratic national committee jointly paid for that infamous dossier full of russian disinformation against donald trump. strip out the middlemen, and it appears that democrats paid for russians to compile wild allegations about a u.s. presidential candidate. did someone say, quote, collusion? april, what's your response to that? >> there's a lot going on. and there's a lot of questions circulating on all sides. right now, this investigation is under way. and it's got to play out. and that's what everyone said before. and it does have to play out. this investigation has to play out. now, if they want to play another piece for something else, that's fine. but this investigation has to
play out. and you cannot impede it because if you impede it, it makes it look like there's something wrong. so this investigation must play out. and when it comes to hillary clinton and their campaign, if there needs to be investigations, let there be, but this investigation has to play out. >> one key point to adam to april's good point, the wreath journal's owned by rupert murdoch and rupert murdoch has been one of the staunchest supporters of president trump, they speak regularly. so an editorial like this is not exactly a shocker. >> shi moan, you talked to justice officials regularly as anyone among them express concern the that the president might try to fire robert mueller. >> well, there's always been concern, and even for people that the white house and his attorneys at the white house that, you know, the president would do something like that. it would create a whole new storm of controversy, but privately in talking to justice officials, really, there's always this concern that the white house was going to
interfere or somehow tell them what to do and they really like to keep what they do separate from the white house. even at the fbi. much of this controversy that's ongoing now is because in some ways the white house, you know, not -- well, was communicating with the fbi inappropriately. those oval office meetings with comey that the president had. so there's always this concern that the white house could try to influence or could somehow interfere from people at the justice department, but publicly no one ever says anything to us. and also, you know, i think there is always going to be that concern. so what they did, this is why they have a special counsel. this is why the deputy attorney general appointed john muler to head this investigation. i think partially because of this concern. >> patrick, looking towards tomorrow, what do you see as worst case scenario for the president in terms of who was indicted. >> it's the outer ring and inner ring of advisors.
in terms if an indictment comes down as unsealed and it is someone who is still in president trump's direct orbit, not a former campaign official or a former advisor, but someone who is in, you know, the inner circle or someone who he's still close to, that becomes a huge story. a huge distraction. you know, it becomes the headline that pushes off tax reform, that pushes off kind of the asia message that they're hoping that this trip. you know, they don't know. i mean, to your point earlier, people are going to bed tonight and they don't know what they're going to wake up with, and president trump, you know, is so invested in this idea that he be cleared of any kind of collusion and for him he's wondering -- what does mueller have? he fundamentally doesn't know, what does mueller have? and is what he's going to have sort of start changing the narrative about collusion? right now no definitive evidence. you know, we're going to start seeing those details come out.
>> april, i read ty cobb told the "new york times" in fact this weekend that the president still hasn't been asked to speak with robert mueller's team. what is the best case scenario for the president this these indictments? >> the best case scenario for the president with these indictments is that none of his family members are indicted. i think that's the best case scenario for him. because if his family members are any family member, be it in-law or blood, that's earth-shaking because stost close to the president. and it makes you wonder even more what did the president know? so, that's the best case scenario i think that no family member would be indicted. you know, you just -- we don't know. and mueller has information, he has had a broad scope and we know he was able to touch finances, he's touched so many different areas. he's talked to so many different people. people that we know, people that we don't know.
so it just i'm going to speculate. we're hearing different things and names in washington. i don't want to put it out there, but i just want to wait and see and listen to what mueller has to say. >> all right, thank you all. april, patrick, shimone, we appreciate it. breaking news concerning an army green beret who died in west africa back in june. the u.s. navy is now investigating whether sergeant logan melger may have been killed by two members of seal team six. the "new york times" first reported the story and quotes officials as saying sergeant melger died of strangulation. ryan, what more have you been able to find out about the investigation? >> reporter: we know that two u.s. navy seals are being investigated by the navy's criminal investigation service ncis. now the army was initial ligating the death of staff sergeant mel ger was but was since transferred in september,
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fellow citizens on the mainland experienced after a natural disaster. of that last line is a bit of a dig on the part of the company there because they're of course reminding people here that there seems to be a difference in the government's response and the way things are handled between how those terrible hurricanes that hit the mainland and the recovery process there versus what we're seeing here in puerto rico. but all of this has come out of not the fact that apparently the government here is unhappy with the work that whitefish is doing. they're just unhappy with all the controversy that the contract which they made with whitefish, all that it is generated. not the electricity that is generated. >> and that's interesting because officials initially defended the contract. even when that controversy started brewing. so what are you learning about the change of heart? >> reporter: well, i mean, they did defend the contract. in fact the man who negotiated, ricardo ramos of the power
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back to our top story tonight. a thick cloud of suspense hanging over washington right now. first arrest in special counsel robert mueller's investigation could come as soon as tomorrow. as the clock ticks down to mueller's opening indictment, president trump turned to twitter accusing democrats and investigators of conspireing against his agenda and launching a fresh attack at his defeated election opponent hillary clinton. let's hear how democrats are responding. joining us now, ted lou. first congressman, thanks for joining us. your reaction to the fact that the mueller investigation has it's first charges. >> i'm honored for your question, whoever gets in indicted is going to be in serious trouble. federal prosecutors don't indict
someone unless they believe they can prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. that's why there's a 93% conviction rate in federal courts. and in this case, special counsel mueller is going to go through great care to make sure it's strong and airtight. >> congressman, off law degree, sit on the house judiciary committee, would you be surprised to see more of a side bar charge? >> it's really hard to tell who's going to be charged tomorrow. there are so many people that appeared to have violated federal law, but whatever the charge is, it's going to be strong. because i don't believe special counsel mueller would come out with an indict that has holes in it. that's not the kind of person he is. keep in mind, he's a marine who received a brown star and a purple heart in vietnam. he's widely respected. he knows what he's doing. >> does who matter as much as what the charges are in your mind? >> certainly, but keep in mind, this is just a first indictment. there could be more coming.
we don't know what the special counsel is doing in terms of who he's going to be charging in the future. i think the first someone going to be strong because special counsel mueller understands that it's their first one. so people are going to be really watching what happens tomorrow. >> but let's say this charge or charges, again, we don't know how many the charges are or how many people could be affected here. let's say it's a financial crime nature. nothing to do specifically with russia or maybe didn't happen during the election, would that be considered a political win for trump? >> i don't think so because that's all going to be related to the russia investigation. that's their mission, that special counsel mueller was given when he was acquainted. and this really is a turning point because you can't say it's a hoax anymore when someone's going to get indicted and then a judge or jury is going to look at the evidence and decide whether he's going to convict. the judicial process is going to happen. this is a turning point in the narrative. >> let me ask you about
something else this week, we learned that infamous trump dossier, the clinton campaign and the dnc funded the research that led to the dossier. white house press secretary sarah sanders tweeting, the evidence clinton campaign, dnc, and russia colluded to influence the election is indisputable. you tweeted back, dear dumb as a rock press secretary, remember how clinton campaign and dnc talked about stealed dossier before the elections? me either. should congressman, should democrats have been more about the dossier connections? >> i think people who funded it should have been more forthcoming, and by the way, the dumb as a rock phrase, i lifted from the president of the united states to highlight why he shouldn't be saying these things. i want to point that out. and in this case, keep in mind, using opposite research is nothing illegal about it. paying for it, there's nothing illegal about it, both parties do it. so to me this is a nonstory. >> so when the president, when
his press secretary, when other democrats, the wall street journal editorial board say that that dossier connection to the clinton campaign could be viewed as collusion with the russians because there were russians that were apparently part of that dossier and that was gathered, what do you say to that? >> paying a british researcher to gather evidence is opposition research, there's nothing illegal about it. coordinating with the russians, which is what the trump campaign may have done, that is illegal. there is a big difference. and using opposition research, paying for it, candidates do that, both parties do that, there is nothing illegal about funding the steal dossier. >> devin nunez who had stepped aside in leading the intelligence committee's russia investigation, he came back out this week, he suggested democrats may have used intelligence services for political gain with the dossier, congressman, what's your response to that?
>> there is no evidence, and keep in mind, the reason that chairman nunez is recused from the trump russia investigation is because inappropriate actions he took earlier this year where he tried to mislead the american public. so we have to take sort of his allegations with that context in mind. >> now has the house russia investigation become too politicized? will any and all collusions be viewed as politically tainted? >> the special counsel has a job to do which is to bring forth evidence of violations of criminal law and then let a judge or jury decide that. the congressional investigations have a broader role which is to find out what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again. i don't think it's fully tainted that the point. we'll see as the investigations continue, and i know both the senate and house are active ligating any trump russia investigations. >> and the game is spoke with a word there and conclusions, obviously, referring to that investigation. congressman ted lou, thank you so much for coming on with us,
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fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. she was one of the first actresses to go public with allegations against harvey weinstein and now ashley judd is offering tips on how young women can handle sexual harassment. take a look at this. >> walking down the street with a girlfriend and i get heckled and i go inappropriate and unwelcome. keep walking. this is another great way. physical gesture of, stop. that doesn't mean that we stop telling. what is taken from us when we experience microaggressions and sexual harassment and sexual assault is our sense of safety. our bargaining strategies and the things that we do in these moments are healthy reactions to abnormal situations. >> joining us now, rachel spar, a new york-based writer and founder of the list.
media platform for women and also with us, cnn senior media correspondent. when it comes to dealing with sexual harassment? >> you know, a year ago i thought we might be because there was a whole twitter campaign too about i would like to think so. certainly we're definitely in a moment and we're definitely seeing repercussions for predators, but based on all of the me too stories out there, we're not seeing repercussions for all of the predators. i think that we are in a moment and people like ashley judd actually lotted it because we're in a moment where many people are coming forward, but it takes guts to be the first. and she was the first domino to fall in the harvey weinstein case and so we applaud her for that. >> she's not letting go. i want to ask you about pharaoh,
the piece for the new yorker. he was also instrumental in terms of breaking open the harvey weinstein situation, but in this new piece he talks to actress darrell hannah who alleges the couple of incidents with harvey weinstein where she says he showed up at her hotel room later asked to touch her breasts, and she weighed the cost of speaking out saying this, quote, she'd get dragged into the gutter of nastiness, pettiness, and shame and it sometimes seems healthier and wiser to just move on with your life and not allow yourself to be revictimized. do you think the media plays a role in that? >> the short sans yes, but the longer answer, to be more optimistic is that the press is good in this situation. and i saw rhone an few days ago, he was on his phone the whole time. he was working on a new piece. he continues to investigate what happened to the weinstein company and who knew what about harvey weinstein's alleged behavior. and now it's so far beyond weinstein, you know, we're about 24 days since that original "new york times" story broke. original story about weinstein.
since then of course, he's been fired and he says he's off to rehab, more importantly we've seen men in other professions held accountable, losing their jobs, suspended, et cetera, and the kind of untold part of this, the kind of behind the scenes part, there's a lot of other investigations now going on. a lot of other news outlets into allegations against other prominent men in other industries. this harvey weinstein, but it's a moment as rachel sads because of all of these allegations, where other men will be held accountable. >> there is a snowball effect. rachel, this isn't just hollywood now. >> clearly. >> this week we have talked about mark halprin who was a journalist at abc news accused of sexual harassment. he's no longer at abc news -- >> but since going to abc news, he just built a media empire during which he rose and rose and rose, he was on "morning joe," the main narrative shaper of the presidential elections. show time show hbo movie. he had an empire, he crowned
himself a king-maker, and made kings. right, not queens, i mean, i think it's really important to note that while a man can do this in his industry -- >> in part because people stayed silent -- and i want to read you what one of his accusers said about why she held back. i'm telling my story publicly now because i hope when this happens again to another young woman, and it will, she will not be so courteous and apologetic. i'm hoping women today will finally speak out in realtime. i mean, it's interesting to note that abc news has said that there were no complaints against mark halprin when he was there. what is it going to take for people to feel like they can bring their stories forward in realtime? >> well, for there to be repercussions and for there to be protection for women who do that. you know, over and over again, you hear stories of women who actually do speak out and nothing happies. there are many women who tweeted
that in the aftermath of this story that something happened to them, they went to hr, nothing happened. hr exists to protect the company, and the company has the vested interest in protecting the status quo. when you have your big dog who is, who is the person who created a big franchise and makes ewe lot of money, again, the "new york times" today put it very well, said like, you know, the women are expendable. and the men are deemed not expendab expendable. when that paradigm shifts and it should, and you know, it's the responsibility of the media now who many in the media who did look the other way, payback time. >> and you're saying, you know, in some ways, the media can be a force for good in terms of how it is having this conversation, how it's exposing some of these stories. brian, it was interesting this week, even former president george h.w. bush came into the spotlight, he was accused of groping, inappropriate touching amongst women and when that
allegation came out, it was, it was note worthy to see andrea mitchell from nbc news, her tweet and reaction to the allegations against him. she writes, mrs. bush was at his side. he is in a wheelchair with parkinson's syndrome, really, someone should be ashamed. and it isn't 41. andrea mitchell is a distinguished journalist, what happens when somebody with that kind of platform dismisses the accusers? >> she's reflecting the awkwardness and the tension in the george h.w. bush allegations. i am not at all trying to down play it, but there is a spectrum here, there is a scale, and there are different places on that scale. and i think it's a false e give lan si to place harvey weinstein next to george w. bush, bush's face right next to weinstein for example. i don't think that's accurate. >> certainly another president who might fit in there. >> well, but -- that's true. but the scale of the allegations
is different george h.w bush is advanced age, i'm not saying that to dismiss it, i'm saying to con textualize it. it's an awkward conversation isn't it? to explain or discuss the allegations against bush versus someone like harvey weinstein. >> what is your take on that, rach rachel? >> i caution against making harvey weinstein the gold standard for what harassment means. you've got -- >> that's not the bar. >> lumbering towards you in a hotel suite hugging open his bathrobe. there's more that happens. and for there've been so many anecdotes. i'm struggling to remember them all if your wife is on one side and one arm is here. you have the other arm free for whoever is on the other side. we are wrestling with behavior of our heroes, but this is something we're seeing over and over again. there is an institutionalization of a framework that enables this. that enables powerful men to get
away with this, and makes -- it's a paradigm that silences women because they are disbelieved and -- >> women are speaking out with -- >> and zbsh we've got to leave it there. thank you so much. coming up, a nation searching for hope after years of civil war. anthony bourdain previews a parts unknown sri lan ka, parts unknown, next. check it out! self-appendectomy! oh, that's really attached. that's why i rent from national. where i get the control to choose any car in the aisle i want, not some car they choose for me. which makes me one smooth operator. ah! still a little tender. (vo) go national. go like a pro. ♪ stare with me into the abyss ( ♪ )
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>> colomblo up the unlike the l this island nation does not feel on lockdown. there are no longer the military check points and heavy equipment, sandbags, or barbed wire in between the airport and the center of town. there's a new democratically-elected government, voted in by a coalition of former adversaries. everywhere you look, construction, expansion, new hotels, foreign money. something that looks a lot like hope. hundreds of thousands of dead and missing later, the country is at peace and we can go where
we want. hopefully, people will be able to talk about their lives. last time, they couldn't. >> i recently sat down with anthony bourdain to get his take on the country's newfound pace. it is still emerging from a brutal 30-year war. i know you continued to ask people while you were there, has the country healed? what's your take? >> well, when we were there ten years ago, for another network doing the show, still the middle of a conflict. and near the end of the conflict. and we were unable to travel to anywhere in the north to the controlled region. and more impactfully, the ethnic minority -- well those we met in the capital were very reluctant to speak to us. you know, it was not an environment where it was healthy
or safe to have an opinion. and we really couldn't get anyone to talk about the identity, the roots of the struggle, who were these people? >> that was ten years ago. the first time you were there. >> yeah. what were their aspirations and hopes. what were their anything. we really had a very hard time finding people to speak to us. now, this was a very bloody and ugly conflict with terrorism, assassinations, mass reprisals, collective punishment, heavy bombing of civilian areas. and a long, long, very violent ethnic conflict with that sort of thing that causes deep, deep hatreds and enduring desire for revenge, as seen in other conflicts of similar nature around the world. things given the fe rrocity of e
fight and the number of people affected and how deeply they were, it is remarkable how things have changed since last time i was there. it's far from perfect. but you can travel anywhere in the country now. we took the opportunity to address something that we lacked in the last. who are they? what was the problem, as best as we could get answers to that. the cause of the conflict. and where is it all going? it's not perfect, but there seems to be some significant improvement and the mood, the feel on the street, unlike the omnipresent security kor dance and the paranoia and overexpression of military power, it seems like they are on their way to some kind of -- there seems to be a collective
hope for peace and exhaustion with the war. >> so the people that you had a chance to get to know a little bit better this time around because they were so suppressed last time that you were there. do they feel like their culture is preserved and is it becoming more significant? >> i think they see an opportunity to rebuild, preserve their culture. i think people are talking about all living together in one country rather than succeeding. >> you got to witness one of their festivals while they were there. >> yes, which is pretty extraordinary expression of deep belief. let's put it that way. >> what's that like? >> well, people of expressived their dedication through acts of devotion, often involving physical pain and endurance. so they will roll on their sides
a few kilometers to temple. they will flog each other. the most extreme example is they will suspend, hook their flesh through their backs and arms and legs and dangle from cranes. >> oh, my goodness, why? >> bouncing up and down on a slow ride to the temple. as an expression of devotion, gratitude, belief. they fast and train to e get themselves in a mental state where they don't feel pain, they say. but it is something to see. >> talk about enduring so much. they obviously have endured for decades so much. you say the best food in the country or locals will tell you it's aunties. >> somebody's grandmother is always the best cook. it's certainly the kind of food i enjoy most. almost anybody's grandma, i'm
going with grandma. >> what's home cooking like there? >> it's delicious and spicy and ingredient like crab. it's a treat. it's not something they can eat every day. when they do it, they do it well. >> that looks delicious. tune in, parts unknown at 9:00 can eastern here on cnn. coming up, forget the ghosts or witches. for some kids the costume of the year is president trump. jake tapper is next. er you're d to stay healthy... ...you might be missing something... ♪ ...your eyes. that's why there's ocuvite. it helps replenish nutrients your eyes can lose as you age. nourish your eyes to help keep them healthy. ocuvite. be good to your eyes.
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supporters or the trump opponents, but maybe we should try a little creativity. how about ivy league trump? >> i went to an ivy league college. i'm an intelligent person. >> how about golf trump? >> it's great to play golf. but play golf with heads of countries. >> how about staring directly at the eclipse trump. >> we interrupt this cartoon to tell you that the trump campaign has been trying to get into the act itself with a $45 make america great again hat. just sold out. how about civil war reenactor trump? >> they are trying to take away our history and our heritage. >> how about fox news contributor trump? >> fox and friends and the morning is the best show. >> or bone spur deferment trump. >> i always wanted to get the purple heart. >> evangelical trump. >> that's the whole ball game. is that the one you like? >> the president says that we in
the media have been painting an unfair picture of him as uncivil. here's the costume of that trump. >> i'd like to punch him in the face. >> how does that compare with the actual president trump? >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of him. >> trick or treat, mr. president. >> happy halloween. that does it for me. thanks for being here. "parts unknown" is next. ♪ >> tracy: let us take you now, to the island of short memories, and the small village of fat hopes.