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>> the -- >> we didn't have -- >> oh, my god! are you okay? >> oh, my god! >> can you call 911? oh, my god! oh, my god! okay, i need an ambulance right here. right here! the guy t boned -- right there! >> you can see the officers running up there, and responding to what they think is a traffic accident and it turned out to be a terror attack. in those moments you can imagine the terrorists, the killer is running around very nearby. dramatic moments to say the least. there are new developments in this investigation and in the prosecution. let's get to cnn's mark waul for that? >> what you just showed it could
have been worse. we now know from the investigation the attacker planned to continue and go much further and he was going to go west from here, and that crash with the bus happened across the street and he was planning on going west and heading towards the brooklyn bridge to, what authorities say, to kill as many people as possible. let's talk about the planning. we now know, and the attacker waived his miranda rights and is speaking with investigators, there are more details. it was two months ago he decided to use a truck to inflict as much damage as possible, and likely had seen the vehicle attacks across barcelona and berlin and london. we know on october 22nd he rented a truck from home depot, very similar to the one he used on tuesday's attack to practice his turns. and then on tuesday afternoon at
around 2:00 p.m., he rented that truck from home depot for just about 75 minutes, but authorities say he had no intention of returning that truck. then went across the gorge washington bridge, and came down plowing into passers by and into pedestrians. when he was finally taken down by the officer ryan nash, more weapons were discovered, including a bag of knives, and he might have planned to get out and go on a stabbing spree. that's what we have also seen in europe. authorities found two cell phones and one had 90 videos and 4,000 photos related to isis.
they were graphic scenes of isis fighters killing prisoners including beheadings as well as instructions for building homemade explosive devices. as investigators continue to talk to the attacker, what is becoming very clear is his allegiance to isis. there was a note that was found near the site of the crash pledging his aliance to isis, and he asked for an isis flag to be hung in his hospital room, and he considered hanging isis flags in his truck to carry out the attack but that would have raised more awareness and drawn more attention and prevented him from reeking more havoc. so far no claim of responsibility by isis. >> thank you very much. that new video into cnn just seconds ago. we will talk about that more in a moment. while you were sleeping the president wished golfer a happy
birthday, and then may have dealt a serious blow to the prosecution of the man that killed eight people in new york. he wrote happy birthday, and then at 11:43, with the same forethought and greater impact, nyc terrorists was happy as he wanted to hang flag in his hospital room, and killed people and injured 12 and should get death penalty. much more on that in a moment. on capitol hill, you can see them meeting behind closed doors as details of the tax plan that could affect every american in generations coming out. we will report the leaks as they come to us. plus, a key witness in the russia probe arriving any moment
to testify in front of the house committee, and he said he probably talked about russia as george papadopoulos just pleaded guilty about russian connections. joe johns is there, and the president has been making more statements this morning. >> reporter: that's true, john. i think first you have to say the president reacting with what you might call understandable anger and outrage that many americans feel, especially people in new york, and people out in the heartland and the president's base would applaud the president for expressing in visceral terms his reaction to the attack in new york city, nonetheless the president is the president of the united states, and his words hold great weight. when he talks about sending the suspect to gitmo or talks about the death penalty, it could create a situation where a
defense attorney, for example, takes advantage of it. let's look at the president's tweets this morning. one says would love to send the new york city terrorist to guantanamo, but statistically that process takes longer than going through the federal system. there's also something appropriate about keeping him in the home of the horrible crime he committed. should move fast. death penalty. clearly we are getting the president's feelings on what ought to be done in this case, sort of doubling down on what he said overnight. back to you. >> joe johns for us at the white house. again, we are expecting much more from the white house this morning as we learn about the tax plan, not to mention this investigation. joining me now, former secret service agent, and cnn national security analyst, and cnn contributor and law professor. steve, first to you. should get the death penalty. when a president says something like that before a prosecution,
what are the complications? >> yeah, good morning, john. i think the real concern when the president says something like that is what joe said, you might have a concern with tainting the jury pool. this is a case where we want to make sure all our ducks are in a row, and all the i's dotted and t's crossed, and a defense attorney could use this to argue his client can't get a proper jury when it comes to the sentence. given this is the same president that just yesterday said the criminal justice system is weak and a laughingstock, and this is a real problem. >> i want to talk about the video we saw moments ago, if we could put that up again. it was the moment the school bus was struck by the rental struck. put it up so we can see it. you sat here and watched it with me as we saw it minutes ago for the very first time, and you say it paints the actions of ryan
nash, the officer that shot the suspect. paints him in a whole different light? >> what we are seeing here is the visual of how dynamic the situation was. we see nypd officers responding to this incident and they are in a reactive mode and they are looking to address a motor vehicle accident and they are not looking that this is a terrorists act. all of a sudden the dynamics change instantly. the driver of the truck presents a weapon, and ryan nash and other nypd officers have to quickly rely on their training, tactics and experience to realize this is not an accident scene but a criminal act. think about how remarkable that is? >> remarkable to see that. in the president's statements he seemed to back off something he said yesterday when he suggested the terror suspect be tried or
prosecuted as an enemy combatant and he said it in passing yesterday. today he seemed to realize the complications that that would entail. >> yeah, i mean the president has to realize he doesn't say anything in passing, especially not on twitter. his statement yesterday about guantanamo bay was not legally suspect, but also from a counterterrorism perspective sort of shocking. we're a great democracy with compelling courts and a justice system that is the envy of the world and if you are going to say it can't work in every terrorist attack, think of that in the aspect of terror organizationed, we are giving up without a fight. that tweet did not last long. the new york and u.s. attorneys office filed a complaint and the indictments just about an hour later, and they closed it off
almost immediately. another one of those things where it was the professionals that know how to do this, counterterrorism and law enforcement and then a president who is not taking advice and saying things flippantly that actually have consequences for those prosecutions. >> looks like somebody got to him overnight, because he did right this morning. steve, lindsay graham, the senator from south carolina, he argued for this. this is not just the president asking for this. lindsay graham asked for this for sometime. his reasoning is you want to look at them with enemy combatants, and lindsay graham said now that he has lawyered up that will be the end of intelligence gathering except through plea bargaining. you don't agree with lindsay graham at all? >> we know from your reporting that he waived his miranda rights and is cooperating. if lindsay graham had a point in
the abstract, it doesn't apply here. lindsay graham is wrong about the law. the government has plenty of flexibility without the advisement of the miranda rights, and we have a public safety exception that allows the government to use statements obtained from a suspect without his miranda rights in exactly a case like this, where the concern is not about establishing the suspect's culpability, but whether he's a lone wolf or if there are other attacks. i wish senator graham with read up on this before saying anything. >> and 3,800 images of isis propaganda. they have that in their hands right now, and they will go through that and look through that phone for other contacts now. that has to be the major focus, looking at everybody this individual has spoken with and seeing if there are still
threats out there. >> nypd, right now the joint terrorism task force has taken the lead in conjunction with nypd, and they have a dig dragnet, social media, everything found on his phone, and what is the browser history on the computer, and what is out there in the public domain that we can quickly ascertain about the individual and start building the profile. i want to come back to the guantanamo statement. guantanamo has been a lightning rod for, you know, isis sympathizers for a long time, and there's a construct of a legal issue. by the president stating that, it's further feeding into the isis propaganda. this is what the intelligence community will worry about, lowering the tone of that so it doesn't lead to, you know, follow on attacks.
we don't want that to spur on. >> i want to ask you about something "the new york times" reported on, isis doesn't claim responsibility typically for an attacker where the attacker is captured and under arrest, and there are different theories of why that might be. i am wondering if you have any notion? >> that is typical, so that's why it's not surprising that isis wouldn't take credit for this. for one, we don't know the suspect's ties to isis at this stage. they may have been passive, and they may have been more active that there was somebody in europe, potentially, or somebody in the middle east that he was having direct contact with. we don't know if there are co-consuperiors in the united states, and there were some news reporting they are looking for a second person, and i find it hard to believe that nobody helped him or knew about this, so isis in many ways is sort of anticipating the investigation because he's alive, and they
don't know what he's going to say. they do not know whether he will adhere to his allegiance. the statements about what he's saying in the hospital, and about the flag are him triggering, right, and letting isis know i'm still with you. whether that holds, we do not know. there's a dialogue going on right now between law enforcement, isis and the suspect. >> julia, johnson, and steve, thank you for being with us. interesting discussion, and we appreciate it. is another shoe about to drop in the russian investigation? new reporting the probe could derail a trump nominee for a top government position. plus, the president preparing to depart on a 12-day mission, and looking at the president's twitter habit to fish with the head still on. we have new reporting coming up. it's time for the sleep number semi-annual
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dur ra derail one of the nominees, and we know clovis has been talking to the special counsel. this is a development just into cnn. joe johns has more for us. what are you learn? >> reporter: well, he is a former campaign official for trump. now he is a nominee to be the top scientists at usda, the department of agriculture. a white house source familiar with the situation tells several of my colleagues at cnn that he is in danger, his nomination is in danger, that either he may have to with draw and if he doesn't with draw he may be forced out. the problem with clovis is his connection to george papadopoulos. this is the former trump
campaign foreign policy adviser who has pleaded guilty to making false statements to the fbi and the russia investigation. apparently mr. clovis is one of the individuals referred to in court documents as exchanging e-mails with papadopoulos, and this, obviously about sending trump staff overseas to talk with russians, a lawyer, a very important to see a lawyer for clovis has said mr. clovis was adamant about telling papadopoulos that, no, there should be no trump staff foreign travel to russia. back to you. >> joe johns, again, that development just in. one angle of the russia investigation. also happening now testimony from two intriguing players in this sra
this investigation. behind closed doors, as we speak, with carter paige. we will also hear from one of the russians in that meeting donald trump, jr., had promising dirt on hillary clinton. a lot going on as we speak. >> john, a flury of activity, both at the white house and capitol hill. carter paige behind closed doors. he's a renewed interest this morning because he now admitted he exchanged e-mails with george papadopoulos, and the topic of russia may have come up in the e-mails, but that, quote, nothing major was discussed. of course, papadopoulos has pleaded guilty for lying to the fbi about his extensive communications with the russians while working for the trump campaign. really, even before papadopoulos' plea, carter paige was of interest, he said he did have interactions with low-level
russian officials back in 2013, and he also revealed he travelled to russia at the height of the campaign in july of 2016. this is of note after the george papadopoulos plea, because that trip to russia by carter paige was the same time papadopoulos was sending campaign e-mails saying russian officials wanted to meet with the campaign. carter paige insists he did not meet with officials on that trip. he will talk about that today behind closed doors this morning. we know a transcript will be released. the house intelligence committee also talking to ike today, the eighth man in the room at trump tower where don jr. was promised dirt on hillary clinton. a lot happening on capitol hill. and we will see paul manafort and rick gates back in court, and this will be a bail hearing. both men pleaded not guilty.
in the meantime they have been under house arrest. john? >> jessica snyder, the carter paige interview with the intelligence committee. he's talking meaning he doesn't have anything to hide or bad legal advisor all of the above. cnn contributor, selena, i want to start with you on sam clovis. he's somebody i talked to a lot during the campaign. he was a fairly early supporter of support, a key iowa supporter of donald trump. and sam clovis, his nomination to serve in the agriculture department could be in trouble. what is his significance inside the trump orb connecting it back to the campaign? >> he is up for nomination to be the chief scientists, and for all accounts, anybody that has
ever talked to him is a standup guy. this is the problem with papadopoulos in that somebody like him, somebody who is not a direct employee of the campaign but is a volunteer, so they are trying to make connections, and, you know, move up the ladder, you know, these e-mails are traded and, you know, we don't know if clovis immediately dismissed it, or -- we don't know the context so we don't know where he stands. you might see, though, that the trump administration in an effort to just completely distance themselves from anybody connected is to say, you know, you got to go. >> it will be interesting to watch that and it could develop all through the next few pheupb minutes. maggie got a phone call, and it was the president of the u.s.
calling maggie out of the blue to say i'm not worried at all. i'm not under investigation, as you know. he talked about the indictments of manafort and gates, and if you look at that, there's no mention of trump in there and it has nothing to do with us. aside from the fact that we don't really know if he is under investigation, the fact of the phone call fascinates me. what do you think he gets out of it? >> the white house is pushing the message they are cooperating fully with the mueller probe and they expect the mueller probe to clear their good name of any of the allegations, and they want the probe to get wrapped up as quickly as possible, and they are onboard. you heard sarah sanders saying part of the reason mueller was able to get a plea deal out of
papadopoulos was because of the white house's help. that's an interesting way for them to frame this situation, very different from the way the white house talked about the mueller probe, but it's not reflective of a good understanding of the nature of the probe and the threat it poses to folks in the white house. one of the most important things about the indictments that got handed down yesterday is they -- or on monday. they show mueller is taking a broad view of his mandate. one of the crimes that papadopoulos plead guilty to happened after trump was inaugurated, lying to the fbi. additionally, a lot of the tax crimes that come up, related to manafort and rick gates happened years before trump was running for president. that sends a clear signal that mueller is casting a wide net and not just looking at stuff trump related or stuff that is russia related or election related. if you are a trump associate with dicey financial dealings or
a troubled tax history, mueller can be a problem for you. >> they are tell phaing me i am of time, so can't ask this. james comey, the fired fbi director, we know the title of his upcoming book. remember, james comey claims he held a meeting with donald trump that demanded loyalty, the title of his upcoming book from james comey will be "a higher loyalty." do you agree this is a certain level of trolling? >> i would say so. >> let the record show i am affirmed. thank you so much for being with us. house republicans meeting right now about the new tax reform bill. we're waiting for details. they are pretty important. cnn's christine romans here following all of that for us. >> what's in it? that's the big mystery for many weeks now. the speculation is about to be over. you have house republicans meeting right now learning what
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happening now, house republicans hearing the details of the new tax plan for the very first time. up until now we haven't been told what is inside, but lucky for us not only do we have a republican congressman with us but one on the weighs and means committee that drafted this bill. joining us now, the congressman of ohio, a member of the house weighs and means committee. what's inside? let me ask you specific questions, as your colleagues are being briefed on this. the top tax rate, 39%. will it stay in place and what income level will it phase in? >> good morning, john. what i will tell you is most of the details will come out at 11:15. >> ohhh. >> but what i will say, much of the framework is still intact and the rates we talked about are still there, and will be a top tax rate that will be faced
in. we will try to make sure, number one, this tax cut affects middle income families and that's the key. that's going to be the real key and at 11:15 you will see that will happen. >> i don't want to wait until 11:15. will 401(k)s be touched? >> i fought to maintain them, and i think people will be surprised at 11:15 that we have done our work to make sure middle income americans continue to have that break. >> and you do seem willing to spill, state income taxes, will they be deductible? >> we talked to many of the congress people that represent states with high income taxes, so there have been some adjustments made to that. again, this tax plan is built on a framework to help middle class americans and that's what it's going to do.
in the end there are going to be people that say i don't like this or that but i promise we will see tax cuts with middle americans even with the changes including state and local income taxes, when you double the standard deduction it makes so many changes for people in middle america. >> one of the things you had been personally concerned about was the national debt, the burden it will place on each and every one of us and all of our children all over this country for years to come. how does this tax plan help reduce the national debt? >> well, in the end it's about growth. that's the one thing we have to do. if we continue to grow at 1%, 1.5%, we need sustained growth and without that we cannot fix the national debt. the good thing is we have a plan for sustained growth which gives us opportunities for sustained growth for the debt.
>> you say god help our children as we continue to bury them in unsustainable debt. this plan, to me, can still be in the red $1.5 trillion, but it could be in the red even more than that, couldn't it? >> no, because the goal is really on a static score to get to $1.5 trillion. nobody has taken into consideration dynamic scoring yet, the growth from the economy. there's so many numbers coming out, and there will be economists saying it will not grow the economy and some will say it is, but a 1% growth alone will take care of much of the deficit in the static score numbers. >> congressman, thank you so much. blink twice if the 39% tax cut phased in at $1 million.
>> i told many people, it sounds like you were in the room, so we will leave it at that and hear about more at 11:15. >> chief business correspondent, christine romans. i think what we did learn is the 39% tax rate will still exist. we don't know where it will phase in. the number they talked about is, what, a million dollars? >> a million, and maybe below there. this has been called toxic to cut taxes to the richest americans, and the president calls it the tax cuts for the middle class. let me remind you the promise, tax cuts for everybody. brackets of zero, 12%, 25%, and 35%. simplify the tax brackets. shrink it down into four. cut the corporate rate to 20%. the president would like to see less than that. eliminate most deductions except for a few sacred ones, like the
mortgage interest deduction, and your 401(k), and there has been confusion and controversy about whether that should be preserved. >> he seemed to suggest that 401(k)'s will not be touched. >> some of the high-tax states, there are republicans who really do not want to have to sell that to their middle class voters that you are not going to be able to write off your state and local deductions. >> he revealed a little there, too, you are going to feel pain if you live in new york, new jersey, california, at the least. i keep harping on the 35% tax rate, if it phases in at $1 million, that means people that make $999,000 a year, which is a lot, they are going to see a huge tax cut. >> yes, they are going to see a huge tax cut. this is so toxic about how they present the message. if it looks as though the bulk
of the relief as the cut, cut, cut act, if it goes to rich people and corporations they have to sell it as a middle class tax relief, and the congressman acknowledged many economists say it's not a middle class tax relief, and if you have to have to magically have mathematics to work, that's not tax relief. >> just a reminder. keep it here on cnn. phil mattingly will sit down with the house speaker, paul ryan, for his first interview after the tax reform bill is released. how will the speaker respond to some of these very important questions? that will be fascinating. nervous. aggressive. neighbors give different accounts of the new york terror suspect. we have more on that ahead.
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looking at live pictures of the attorney general of the united states, jeff sessions, right now, talking about terror investigations and what he wants to see in general going forward. we'll check in with this in just a moment. actually, let's listen into right now what the attorney general is saying. >> on the first precinct, quick response and courageous action, under pressure prevented the attack from getting worse. he's rightly regarded as a hero today. not just in new york but across america. he symbolizes the best in law enforcement. i remember at the capitol a number of years ago i saw an officer racing past me and there was a shooting outside the
capitol. he doesn't know what was out there. could have been a gang of terrorists with automatic weapons and things. he was going to the fight. that's what our law enforcement officers do. we need to validate them and affirm them and we need to -- if somebody in a department does wrong they need to be punished, but we need to affirm steadfastly the great officers who serve us every day and put their lives on the line for us. this morning i attended the role call with officers from the 13th precinct -- >> jeff sessions talking about the hero police officer ryan nash that saved uncounted number of lives in new york city by taking down the terrorists two days ago. we are learning new details about this suspect. athena, what are you learning? >> reporter: hi, john.
we know the suspect appeared in court last night and did not enter a plea or say much according to a source. he's talking to authorities. investigators learned he had been planning tuesday's attack for a year. according to the criminal case he decided to use a truck to inflict maximum damage to civilians. i along with a few other reporters spoke with a neighbor of the suspect who saw a home depot truck parked in the neighborhood. >> how long you have been seeing him around? >> since about a year. as long as i have been here. >> the truck was here about three weeks, on and off. >> you believe it was a similar truck, if not the same truck -- >> it has to be the same truck.
has to be the same truck. >> reporter: tell us when you would see it, where would you see it? >> in the front of the house. parked by his parking lot. all over this block. just would be all over. >> reporter: this was carlos batista talking yesterday about having seen that truck, and in fact he was able to capture a photograph of that truck on october 22nd, that's about ten days before the attack, ten days or so before the attack. we know from the criminal complaint that he rented the truck on october 22nd to practice making turns and practice getting a handle of driving it. batista said he happened to be taking pictures of a vehicle he wanted to sell and he captured this home depot truck in the background. we have the pictures up on the screen. they are exclusive to cnn. and he also says he saw him in the truck before and after that photo was taken, again, on october 22nd. interesting details emerging from witnesses and neighbors who
knew of the suspect. >> five friends were visiting from argentina, those five men killed. they were part of a reunion here in new york city. so sad. and also a 31-year-old mother from belgium was vacationing with her family. her husband said he was a fantastic mother to their children. and then daren break, hearing his father talk about him is heartbreaking. a recent graduate from college, got an engineering job in the city, and our hearts go out to all of them and their families. we'll be right back.
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for the president, 12-day swing through five countries in east asia, a lot on the line particularly as the north korean cris crisis royals on and a question about how distracted the president may be. we heard chief of staff john kelly admit this week that the president is distracted or has been at least his this week by this investigation and the question is whether this trip could be a welcomed diversion for the president or whether he will remain -- continue to stew over this investigation which has borne its teeth this week. during this trip, the president is going to be facing meetings with leaders from around the world. he is going to have to deal with these time changes and aides have tried to do everything they can to keep the president's schedule so that he remains engaged to try to keep things familiar, yes, for example, no whole fish with the heads on them still remaining to keep the president in his comfort zone. but there is a broader question here, as to whether or not the
president himself feels hobbled by some of this investigation. one senior white house official told me that president feels that his negotiating ability may be hampered. a lot to watch out for as the president heads on the 12-day trip. john? >> jeremy diamond, at the white house, thanks so much. dramatic new video out this morning that came into cnn about one hour ago. this from the moments after the terror attack in new york city. what this video tells us, that's next. >> can you call 911. >> oh, my god. oh. oh, my god. .
this is cnn breaking news. >> all right. good morning. john berman, the breaking news, the leaks are upon us. just in to cnn actual details of the republican tax plan that could affect americans for generations how republicans are still behind closed doors being briefed, but we refuse to wait for them. our intread pid reporters have pride the information loose, phil mattingly on capitol hill we've been waiting to learn the details. what do you know. >> that's right. this is what matters, what determines whether or not things move forward. not a nine-page framework but the details. let me run through a couple right now because they are extremely important. on the corporate side, john, obviously, president trump has made no secret about the fact that 20% is the rate he wants it, at the 35%