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i'm erin burnett. the breaking news, jared kushner turning over documents to special counsel bob mueller. the president's son-in-law under scrutiny for the russia investigation. we are learning mueller's investigators are asking about kushner's role in the firing of comey. kushner coming under fire for failing to disclose his contacts with russians, including that meeting in trump tower in june of 2016. a meeting between top trump campaign officials including donald trump jr., manafort, kushner and russians with links to the kremlins. the purpose of the meeting, to pass along dirt about hillary clinton. this as questions are raised about jeff sessions and whether he purr jored himself in testimony to congress. court documents unsealed reveal that trump campaign adviser, george papadopoulos discussed a meeting between vladimir putin and donald trump.
jeff sessions was present at that meeting. he says he wasn't. manu raju is live covering the story. we begin with shimon. you are breaking this. what are you learning? >> kushner voluntarily turned over documents he had from the campaign and also the transition. these documents are related to contacts with russia. the documents are similar to the ones kushner gave to congressional investigators. this comes as investigators have been asking witnesses about kushner's role in the firing of fbi director, the former fbi director, james comey. erin? >> why is the special counsel interested in the specific role of the comey firing? >> we are told investigators asked witnesses about his role. they, basically, were told by the sources there are different accounts from the sources.
some say kushner was a driver in the president's decision to fire the former fbi director. others have told us that he simply just didn't oppose it. it was something the president already made his mind up about and that kushner basically had no driving force in that. naturally, sources close to the white house say that based on what they know and we don't know how they would know this, kushner is a target, is not a target of the investigation. >> shimon, the question here is, you have bob mueller requesting and getting information directly from jared kushner. that is new. how significant is it? >> certainly, it is. mueller's team asking questions about kushner is a sign investigators are reaching into the president's inner circle. it extends, this investigation extends beyond the 2016 campaign to actions that have been taken by high level officials at the white house. a white house official says mueller's teams questions about
kushner are not a surprise and kushner, naturally, would be among the list of people who investigators would be asking about. a lawyer for kushner did not comment. you should add that the white house declined to comment. >> thank you very much, shimon. a cig nif can't development requesting documents from jared kushner in the inner circle from mueller. manu, you have more breaking news tonight. the attorney general, jeff sessions under scrutiny now, renewed scrutiny. >> from democrats and some republicans alike. this is after court documents were unsealed that showed george papadopoulos had a meeting between then candidate trump and vladimir putin. jeff sessions was at the meeting when he was a senator for alabama, a top surrogate for the trump campaign. he rejected the idea they should meet. why is it significant is in
several appearances on capitol hill this year, sessions actually did not disclose this meeting. in fact, he was asked about conversations that happened about russia, about communications with russian operatives and the like. either he didn't recall or said it didn't happen. today, erin, a lot of democrats are raising concerns saying he should amend the testimony and clarify what happened with george papadopoulos. some republicans, erins are saying this is an area to pursue. chuck grassley said it's something he's looking into and the number two republican, john cornyn of texas says it's a legitimate area to explore. so far, the justice department is declining to comment. sessions is thinking he does not recall those conversations taking place with papadopoulos. er erin? >> doesn't seem to recall
anything unless someone comes with evidence. joining me now is al franken on the committee investigating russia's meddling in the election. thanks to you, i appreciate your time. the president says he made the decision to fire comey. multiple sources say jared kushner was a driver of that decision. how big of a role did kushner play? >> well, i don't know. evidently special prosecutor asked for documents from the son-in-law, jared kushner. and he is obviously investigati investigating obstruction of justice in this matter. that's, you know, robert mueller will be the one to get to the bottom of this. he'll probably be making these decisions as to who committed some crime such as obstruction of justice. >> we now know, of course,
kushner filed security clearance forms saying no meetings with russians. he left off the forms the meeting in trump tower with donald trump jr. and manafort. he left off the meeting with the russian ambassador to the united states. he left off the ceo of russia's bank. he revised the security clearance form multiple times. do you think he is hiding something, senator? >> well, i think it's odd that he forgot all those things. so, that's an assumption that would be fair to make, sure. >> senator, we are also learning the attorney general, jeff sessions was part of a discussion involving then candidate trump and george papadopoulos with vladimir putin. sources say papadopoulos discussed his conversations with
russians in a meeting of trump's foreign policy team. sessions was there. trump was there. this is important far lot of reasons. not least of which, last month sessions testified to your committee and here is part of your exchange with him. >> you don't believe that surrogates from the trump campaign had communications with the russians? is that what you are saying? >> i did not and i am not aware of anyone else and i don't believe it happened. >> you don't believe -- >> i don't think it happened. >> so -- >> we know he did hear about at least one of those conversations in a meeting with trump himself. is sessions being honest to you? >> well, again, he seems to have problems telling the truth on this subject. during the confirmation hearings, in response to a question of mine, he said he had not met with russians during the campaign. turns out he met with the ambassador from russia three
times during the campaign. you saw in this recent, the next time he came back for our committee, he said he didn't know anybody in the campaign who met with russians, but we know that jared kushner, that the president's son, donald trump jr. and paul manafort met with the russians in trump towers. now, this george papadopoulos, this information comes from a plea from a statement of his to special prosecutor saying he met with russians about arranging a meeting between putin and trump and that he had taken this information to a meeting with jeff sessions for their foreign relations or their national security team. sessions was the chairman of the
team. at this meeting, there was a picture of it, you can see the two of them together as sessions is speaking. the president was there. at that, he raised this. we have heard from other sources that the attorney general, now attorney general then senator sessions said i don't think we should do this and nobody should talk about this to anybody. that seems to be something you would remember. he said something to that effect. i don't have it exactly quoted. this is why i have a lot of questions. i have written a letter with a lot of those questions and i would like to have him come testify before the judiciary committee, again. >> you want him to come back. the big question, i know you can use the word whether someone is being honest or amnesia, but the big word here is lie. are you close to using that word when it comes to the attorney general and how he's answered
your questions, repeatedly? >> that's why i want him to answer these questions and testify again. ultimately, whether or not he committed perjury will be, again, i believe bob mueller's call. >> do you think the attorney general is fit to continue in his job as attorney general, at this time, or should he step down? >> i would like him to answer the questions in my letter. i hope we have sent you a copy of that. i would like him to testify before us again. >> all right, senator franken, i appreciate your time. thank you so very much. >> very nice talking to you. next, nearly half of americans think the president likely committed a crime, according to a new poll, this probe reaches the heart of trump's inner circle. the gop health plan facing opposition from trump republicans. why? new details of the new york terror property. the suspect's home country
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documents. they are interested in kushner's role in the firing of fbi director, jim comey. jim acosta is live outside the white house. what is the response from the white house tonight? >> reporter: the response is, there is no response. i was discussing this with a member of the white house legal team, the president's legal team. they are referring us to jared kushner's personal attorney. they are not commenting on the new reporting coming from cnn. when i talk to white house sources, they are trying to make the case that they are sticking to their agenda. they are sticking to what they are trying to accomplish. we are happy about the president's tax reform proposal. we are happy about where things stand for the president's trip to asia, which is coming up tomorrow, overseas in asia for 11 days. you don't get the sense, we did hear this earlier this week, you don't get the sense from talking
to white house officials that their hair is on fire, at this point. as you know, erin, every day a story comes out, people are more and more uncomfortable and you hear that from a number of people. "the washington post" poll that came out showing 49% of the public believing the president did something illegal and 58% having confidence in robert mueller is indication the polling is not heading in the direction the white house would like. white house sources are adamant, they are standing by this president and sticking to his agenda and carrying it out as we speak. >> thank you, jim acosta. we want to go to van jones and ken cuccinelli. let me ask you, yesterday, the president called "the new york times" and he said, i want to quote him, i'm not under investigation, as you know. even if you look at that, there's no mention of trump in there. has nothing to do with us.
he's referring to papadopoulos obviously pleading guilty and the charges to gates and manafort. now we are talking jared kushner, the president's son-in-law and senior adviser. >> well, the only thing that happened today was the request for documents. it's not -- i don't find it that unusual. i expect mueller is going to ask a lot of people for documents and we are going to have more reports like this. he was asked for documents about the comey firing. surely jared kushner isn't a target in any of that. that's the initial reporting says the same thing. we'll see how this develops, but it's hard to imagine a hypothetical set of circumstances where kushner would have any sort of liability related to comey for anything. maybe mueller, and i expect he
will, will flush out all the possible problems associated with the situation, including the consideration of obstruction of justice, which i think is very difficult in the case of the president, of all people. nonetheless, gathering that information and getting documents from jared kushner is a natural part of the process. i'm not that surprised. i understand why people in the white house are uncomfortable with it. i agree with the reporting that the best thing they can do in the white house is press ahead on the agenda and actually do the job they were e lekted to do, instead of getting tied up. >> van, do you buy what ken is saying, this is standard? nothing to be concerned about in light of what we were talking with senator franken, jared kushner was there where dirt was promised. meetings with the russian ambassador.
sort of this drip by drip by drip, edit after edit. >> well, i mean, i think a couple of things. certainly, it could be in the line of fire, at least in terms of trying to figure out what role did he play in advising his father-in-law to fire comey, which could be obstruction of justice. the bigger thing that is happening that nobody talks about enough is trump's overall management style is so reckless, it is now endangering his own family. if you decide you are going to put a complete novice in a position like this, that novice will make mistakes. that's reckless. if you decide to give that novice title of secretary of everything, which is what he is called because nobody know what is his job is, he is going to create mistakes. internal to the building, a teflon guy. you can't mess with him. how do you deal with him? external to the building,
everything is going to stick. who knows what his job is. if you put somebody in that position, give them a title or job nobody understands, that person is a family member, it's hard to explain you love your family and you are a good manager. you would never do that. >> it does raise serious questions. >> look, president trump won his election in a fashion we have never seen before. i refer to it as actually using chaos theory to win an election. it isn't much of a management style once you are governing. you know, we see it in the tweeting and other things. that doesn't mean jared kushner has done anything wrong. i think it's important to differentiate the two. i think this is just information gathering at this stage. i think van's observation is more broadly applicable to how
the white house runs and i don't necessarily disagree with him with respect to the chaotic approach, but it seems that's how the president wants to approach things. there is a downside to that. it's a lot of loose ends and pieces hanging out there that people can take shots at. >> look, he comes out, ken, he says there's no collusion. you know i'm not under investigation, all these things. >> right. >> this comes as "the washington post"/abc news poll comes out with something that has got to be sobering for people in the white house who want to be honest with themselves. jim acosta referred to it. 58% of americans approve of bob mueller's handling of the investigation. that means a lot of republicans approve of the handling of the investigation. 28% disapprove. maybe they are the trump supporters. this is not people getting on board with the president saying this is a witch hunt and a joke. >> look, i'm a former attorney general. i have a really hard time with
even the notion of polling whether a crime occurred. that's what they polled. >> 49% said there might be criminal activity. i'm saying they think bob mueller is doing a good job. >> bob mueller is viewed like a miniversion of courts and people like to think of those, people in those roles as fairly neutral. there's reason to question that with respect to bob mueller. that's been discussed publicly. look, surely van you agree there's a basis to have the discussion. the outcome of the discussion is another matter. but, these are things -- discussion and it isn't very constructive. >> van? >> i'm saying that the idea that the president and his friends are trying to discredit mueller, mueller was praised by everyone,
his entire career, and now he's in the tank. that doesn't make sense. here is what i think people should be trying to pay close attention to going forward. yes, you can in that building do a whole bunch of stuff at the same time. when people feel personally they are not safe, personally they may get a knock on the door from the fbi, when they go home and the wife or husband is asking personal questions, it begins to erode the ability to do your job. a tax plan is not the only talk in that building. >> still, the best hope for the white house is the actual agenda. >> i agree with you on that. next, breaking news, new details about what former trump adviser, carter page, told about the russia probe. this is stunning, erveverybody. you have to listen to this. this is a really big deal for
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breaking news, another blow to attorney jeff sessions in the russia probe. we are just learning breaking news. carter page testifying under oath today to the house intelligence committee. we are learning the statement. paige told the committee he directly told now attorney general jeff sessions he was going to moscow in july, 2016. that, of course, would be during
the presidential campaign. this is crucial. he said it under oath. it comes as jeff sessions says he knew nothing about any trump campaign official having contact with russians. manu raju is out front. coming on top of the revelation that sessions shot down a suggestion from the former adviser, george papadopoulos to meet with the russians when they were discussing russians with dirt on hillary clinton. now you have carter page. how significant is the testimony? >> we are learning carter page mentioned to jeff sessions in june of 2016 he would travel or planned to travel to moscow. he claimed it was not related to the campaign. it was a speech he was planning to deliver in russian. he told jeff sessions this during a private dinner that they had with trump. the trump campaign national security team, steps from the capital, at the capitol hill club. this is significant, erin,
because jeff sessions, on multiple occasions said he did not recall having any discussion with anybody about russia. in fact, he was asked in june, a hearing before the senate intelligence committee, whether or not he was aware of carter page traveling overseas to meet with officials. he said i don't know. he didn't recall and said that, flatly, no. no communications with russians and the trump campaign. erin, this is in the aftermath of monday's revelation of the court documents unsealed that george papadopoulos raised the idea of a trump meeting and sessions attended in march of 2016. that meeting, also, jeff sessions did not disclose to congress. the fact we are learning that carter page testifying before the house intelligence committee telling them he did inform jeff sessions before the trip about his plans to go to moscow is
raise zing more questions on capitol hill. >> manu, what are they saying? what is the response? >> reporter: they are not commenting on this, but i can tell you page and a source familiar with the meeting are down playing this. they are saying page told me, look, he mentioned in passing to jeff sessions, it was not, it was the only time he ever spoke and met with jeff sessions. page tellin me this today after testifying before the house intelligence committee for six hours. a source close to that said page did mention this to him, shook hands with him at the end of the meeting, this dinner meeting and went on his way to discuss it further. again, lawmakers are bound to ask more questions about this. why didn't jeff sessions disclose this, if he did remember this. multiple hearings on capitol hill. >> thank you very much, manu. now, defense secretary of
president obama, leon panetta and former chief of staff for president bill clinton. thank you, appreciate your time. what is your reaction to the latest development? >> well, it's part of this drip, drip process of finding out exactly what kind of inner relationship there was between various individuals in the trump campaign with russia. you know, it's been something that obviously bob mueller focused on. the committees in congress focused on it. what's of concern is that we are going through this process of finally finding out what's been involved here rather than having people, like the attorney general and others, be a lot more forthcoming about, you
know, the fact that there were ties and efforts to work with the russians. that's something that should have come out a long time ago. i'm sure the committees are going to ask for clarification. >> the judiciary committee saying he wants the attorney general to come back and testify again. obviously, when they asked him about meetings with the russians, he said he had known. turns out he had three, now this. you have carter page, that's the breaking news, saying he sold jeff sessions he was planning a trip to russia. george papadopoulos saying he discussed setting up a meeting with russians in a meeting with sessions and here is sessions, point-blank, denying anything like this ever happened when he was asked about it last month. >> you don't believe that surrogates from the trump campaign had communications with the russians? is that what you are saying?
>> i did not and i am not aware of anyone else that did. i don't believe it now. >> you don't believe it now? >> i don't believe it now. >> secretary, is there a way to explain this in light of the testimony from page and papadopoulos? >> well, it was a pretty direct statement that the attorney general made under oath. i suspect that there are going to be a lot of questions about just exactly what he did or did not remember with regards to dealings with the russians. you know, it just, what it does is raises concerns with the american people about whether or not we are getting the straight story here. you know, we have had 17 intelligence agencies tell us that russia was involved directly in trying to influence our election.
we have had now bob mueller investigating contacts with the russians and among national security aides. what the american people want to find is the truth. ultimately, the truth is going to come out. but, it would be a lot better if people were more forthcoming about exactly what took place here. there may not be any connection directly with the president. we understand that. but, the fact is, we should know what contacts were made so that the american people, the intelligence committees and certainly bob mueller, can determine just exactly what happened. >> secretary panetta, this comes as chairman paul manafort and the deputy are charged with conspiracy against the united states. in the court filing in the manafort case, among other things, they show he had a phone
registered to a fake name he was using last year as he traveled around the world. he had an alias. you ran the cia. what is your reaction when you hear paul manafort had a phone to a fake name, an alias? >> he was trying to hide something. you don't do that unless you are trying to hide something. that's what intelligence agents do. that's what people do that are involved in spying, try to make sure that others really don't know what they are up to. so, when you have a fake phone, when you are operating with secret bank accounts around the world and when i knyou are doine things he's accused of doing by the special prosecutor, it raises serious questions about just exactly what was he up to. >> all right. thank you very much, secretary panetta, i appreciate your time. i want to go to chris sli cilli.
this is adding up. how big of a problem is it going to be for him? >> reporter: big. you can understand, i forgot a meeting, it was a quick hello with the russian ambassador kislyak. when you have that i forgot excuse two or three times, it's like your kid. oh, i forgot something at school. okay, it happens. i forgot my homework again. >> we are up to five times. >> this is the problem. i think congressman panetta makes a really important point, which is, it's the drip, drip, drip of this and the trust issue. let's remember, jeff sessions is the nation's top law enforcement official, right? this is not a bureaucrat in the government, this is a
high-ranki high-ranki high-ranking official. if you wonder why he is forgetting these details. he stands for transparency. i think this is true for all politicians, say what you know when you know it. any attempt to get in trouble when testifying under oath in front of congress, which sessions has done several times in relation to this. people are going to rightly comb through what he said. it doesn't match up with what we now know. >> what does it mean for trump? we know he's wanted to get rid of jeff sessions. he said so many times. here we are now with these new revelations. what does it do? >> in the up is down and down is up world of donald trump, it may help sessions. erin, hear me out. donald trump believes, in his heart of hearts, the russian thing is a hoax. i think he believes that. he thinks the media has trumped
it up and democrats trumped it up. if he uses sessions being targeted unfairly, it proves sessions is loyal to him. that's the political calculation. keep in mind, yes, that matters. the legal process here, represented by bob mueller is important. what mueller finds, whether it's the indictment of manafort or what we found today about the documents of jared kushner, carter page, jeff sessions, all roads lead back to the mueller probe. >> senator franken said whether sessions committed perjury will be at the feet of mueller. thank you, appreciate it, chris. next, the tax code. while it was what they wanted to be the top story today, it is an important story, the ink not yet dry. the plan is being booed by members of the gop. why? what's in it. someone who knew the terror
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or not. doubles the standard. cuts the deductible on mortgage interest in half. repeals state and local tax deductions which is huge for a lot of people, eliminates property tax deduction to $10,000. repeal the alternative minimum tax, amt, which was put in place to ensure wealthy americans could use deductions to avoid taxes. lee zeldin, who supported trump came out against the bill. the president says tax reform is going to be in the bag by christmas. >> we are giving them a big, beautiful christmas present in the form of a tremendous tax cut. i believe we'll have it done before christmas. i consider that one of the great christmas presents. >> senior economic adviser,
steve moore, chairman of the economic council advisers under president obama steve. steve, here we go. let's start with your overall ranking is you like the plan. start with the amt. it's been around a long time, four decades, put in place so rich people couldn't use deductions. here is why it matters. 2005, trump paid $38 million in federal taxes. 31 of the 38 were amt. let's be clear here, steve, you are okay with this. the president would get a massive $31 million tax cut just in that one year. >> well, let me just go back to one issue you started the conversation with. some of the republican that is are peeling off on this, i have to tell you, i was with a lot of house republicans today. i talked to a lot of senate republicans. i have to tell you, i think the republicans are unified right now. sure, there are some republican
that is are splitting off this, but they realized this is the plan that will grow the economy, they have to hang together. by the way -- >> now, let's get to trump's $31 million tax cut. >> one of the things we are trying to do here in this plan is get rid of the special -- the reason we have to have an amt is all the junk in the tax system. rich people take advantage of the loopholes. what we are trying to do here is get rid of the loopholes. why does warren buffett and bill gates need a mortgage deduction on their house? why do we have tax write offs for football stadiums and that? we are getting rid of that. that is going to make the amt unnecessary. the rich don't have a place to stash away their money. the plan is lower rates and get rid of the loopholes. >> you can't give me an exact number, but give me a sense. he paid 38 million, 31 was
because of amt. are you saying he is not going to get a tax cut or yes, he is going to get a tax cut of many, many millions of dollars? >> donald trump, personally? >> yeah. >> i don't know. i will say this -- i will say this, i think this plan is designed to give everyone who pays taxes a tax cut. if you are a middle class family, you are going to save. if you are paying taxes, you are going to get a cut. most people watching the show, they don't care how much taxes donald trump is going to pay, they care about their own tax bill. as the taxi driver that drove me over said show me the money. they want to see what it is going to save for them. for most, $2,000. >> or $31 million. >> steve gave it a b plus and i give it an f plus, i put the plus in to try to fix the glaring problems. if you look at the tax plan,
steve is saying they got rid of the loopholes. they include things like people now get to deduct the interest they pay on student loans. they are getting rid of that. >> yes. >> people with massive medical expenses deduct that. they are getting rid of that deduction so they can abolish the estate tax for billionaires so they can abolish the amt, which would oh, by the way, personally benefit donald trump by $31 million. i think the biggest danger, the thing that the republicans are most afraid of at this point is that people are actually going to read what's in this bill. when they do that, i think there are going to be a lot of republicans that peel off and say i can't support this. >> the thing about amt, most people don't know about it. most americans don't deal with it. it's increasingly -- >> those that do hate it. more people are hit by it every year. >> exactly, more and more people are -- that's the point of this.
it was supposed to be, you know, the amt, go back to the late '60s, early '70s, it would hit the richers 200-300 families. now, a lot of people, as many as a third of people have to pay it. the reason they hate it is because you have to go through all the work of compiling, dealing with the current tax code, then fill out another form, the amt, then pay -- >> keeps accountants in business. i want to get to each of you. >> just for them, why repeal it for donald trump? that's the thing. >> steve, i know your point is always, you are fine with wealthy people getting a tax cut because they pay the vast majority of taxes. that's your point of view. the issue i'm raising here is the president and your word.
i did an interview here before you were on board with him in 2015. at the time, i asked him whether he would pay more taxes directly. here is how he answered the question. >> i will probably end up paying more money. at the same time, i think the economy will do better. i'll make it up >> not true at this point right steve? >> no. i don't know how much he's going to pay but every conversation i had with them on this, talked a lot about the tax plan, he basically said i don't want people like me to pay less taxes. that's one of the reasons if you look at current version of the plan, people over $1 million, no tax rate reduction. still the same -- >> all pay- >> abolishes estate tax, paid for by only 5,000 richest families in the country. >> raises less than half of 1%.
>> about a half trillion dollars. >> i talk to people all over the country who are small businessmen and women who hate this tax, spend whole life building up business, millions in lifetime and -- >> applies to 5,000 people. >> irs is do going to take it all away. >> 5,000 people getting more than 10% of the total tax cut in the entire bill. doesn't make sense. >> by the way, leaving out something, don't want to get too much in the weeds but gets rid of the step up basis of death on capital gains. >> also creates what has been called mother of all loopholes, going to give pass through entities 25% tax -- >> loophole is the step-up basis on capital gains, now trillions
of dollars -- >> i would love to have conversation about that, egregiousness and absolute value. >> this is about jobs -- >> i have to leave it there. >> we think will grow the economy. >> thanks erin. investigators talking to people about the new york terror attempt suspect and what they saw, and school children caught in middle of the carnage as attack took place. update on how they're doing tonight. >> oh, my god, i need an ambulance right here. on. and he does it with dr. scholl's. only dr. scholl's has massaging gel insoles that provide all-day comfort to keep him feeling more energized. dr. scholl's. born to move.
new developments tonight in the new york terror attack. tonight investigators talking to residents who may have seen and been with the suspect in the days leading up to the attack. neighbor telling cnn he saw two people with alleged attacker driving another home depot truck, that the suspect claims to use to practice his turns for the attack. drew what are investigators learning tonight? >> reporter: they're trying to learn if there was anybody else with this guy, erin. we were there in patterson,
new jersey, when plain clothes officers were recanvassing the neighborhood and talking to carlos batista, who shared this photo with cnn which shows home depot rental truck packed in background of photo he was taking on october 22nd, seems to match what police tell us, saipov was practicing renting trucks and for the attack in the months and weeks ahead of time. we also have been canvassing that neighborhood and haven't found anybody to corroborate what bastista is saying, saying that saipov hung out with anybody or friends in the truck or anybody visited the apartment where he lived with his wife. neighbor next door said they were very reclusive, wife never came outside, he took
six-year-old daughter back and forth to school. police looking to see if anybody else involved, covering their bases. >> investigators said he was radicalized in the united states but it's going to be a critical question, you have new details about his past in uzbekistan. >> we went to his neighborhood, his home. couldn't find his actual mom and dad but neighbors described the family as upper middle class, moderate muslim, not very religious. guy was nice kid. know from the uzbekistan embassy here he went to school and was an accountant. radicalization seems to have happened while he was in the united states after a couple of years actually. >> all right. thank you very much, drew griffin, with the investigative details. next update on the school children caught in attack when
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moments ago in new york a vigil, a march to honor those killed in tuesday's terror attack. those injured marchers lighting candles, walking silently along the rampage route. we have an update about some school children caught in middle of the danger. they were on a bus that was rammed by the truck suspect was driving. it was horrific. >> stuck in here. >> oh, my god, are you okay? oh, my god. hey, i need -- can you call 911, i got -- oh, my god. oh, my god.
okay, i need an ambulance right here. right here. >> two adults and two children injured on that bus. one of the children went through surgery yesterday and appears to be on the mend, one of the adults had two operations and expected to recover. that's a miracle for those four individuals. and thank god that bus only had four people on it at the time. thanks for joining us, anderson is next. good evening, breaking news in the russian investigation dominates the program tonight and reaches directly into the president's inner circle, touching oldest advisers, supporters and own family. major developments for son-in-law jared kushner and attorney general jeff sessions, sam clovis and president himself, his own actions lately and state of mind. breaking news as well on what people think of it all, polling from "washington post" and abc news showing 58%