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save ring. democratic lieutenant governor ralph northam is governor-elect after walloping ed gillespie. >> virginia has told us to end the divisiveness, that we will not condone hatred and bigotry, and to end the politics that have torn this country apart. >> now despite the fact that polls show there was palpable anti-trump sentiment, the president trump says it's not my fault. this is what he wrote. ed gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what i stand for. still, republicans are reeling. one said to me, unblanking believable. the losses when in every state at every level including in new jersey where they picked up the
governor's mansion held previously by chris christie. let's go to ryan nobles who is in richmond. >> reporter: john and poppy, good morning to you. this race in virginia was supposed to be close. the closing days of the campaign, ed gillespie, the former george w. bush appeared, and the results we saw last night were equal to a tsunami when it comes to politics. not only did democrats win all three of the state-wide elections, but they are poised to flip the virginia house of de delegates for the first time in 20 years. there will be key elections to decide that. republicans are soul searching and trying to figure out what this means for the 2018 election. many republicans that i talked to in virginia that downplayed the impact of the president on this race before the vote took place told me last night that this was a direct reflection of
donald trump and his presidency. democrats agree. listen to what dnc chairman, tom perez, said last night. >> america needs healers, healers like ralph northam. we don't need dividers like donald trump. you have sent a message across the globe to south korea. donald trump, you don't stand for our values! the america that donald trump comes back to in a few days is far different than the america he left. >> also weighing in this morning, former president barack obama, who, of course, has seen much of his agenda unravelled in the early days of the trump administration. he tweeted this is what happens when the people vote. congrats ralph northam. every office in a democracy counts. what is interesting is barack
obama campaigned with murphy and northam in their races in new jersey and virginia, and now he sees both of those candidates win, and of course, ed gillespie deciding not to campaign with donald trump, although the president did put out a robocall for him in the closing days of this campaign, and john and poppy, no doubt today, republicans attempting to figure out what comes next, and they don't have a lot of time to figure it out because the 2018 midterms are going to begin in earnest here in just a few days. >> thanks so much. president obama, hundreds were lost during his administration. and chris cillizza, and mary katherine hamm and maria cardona. the beach boys, catch a wave and
you are sitting on top of the world. what is the nature of the wave and what does it tell you? >> it tells me the greatest uniting factor in what a fractured party is president donald trump. the distaste for donald trump drove suburban voters into ralph northam's camp and activated the liberal base in a major way. ed gillespie runs in 2018 for the senate, and he wins the county, and it was probably 45 west of d.c. last night he loses it by 23,000 votes to ralph northam. why? donald trump. the first year of trump, this is that referendum. some of these people voted for donald trump, and now they are seeing what they are getting and they are not liking it. it's hard for me if you look at
the numbers in the exit polls for the state. >> you have got twice as many voters in virginia voting in part because they are voting in opposition to the president, and 34% versus 17% who put out their vote to support the president, and then you have virginia republican representative scott taylor saying it's a referendum on this administration. can anybody argue otherwise? >> it's hard to argue otherwise. the mental health of the resistance, i don't know how long they could have held out, and this is a big one, and there's a deeper problem here, and chris points out that louden county, it's a killer when you are looking at another election in the future. a lot of the delegate races that republicans lost are in the moderate areas where republicans had hung on for a while and maybe won't now, and the question is whether running in a
trump era, in a state that trump lost, you can succeed. the twist or turn from what ed gillespie turned out in 2014 shows us what that looks like. >> i am sure you are feeling good this morning and they were big wins for the democratic party, but there are still big problems for the democratic party, and we had a poll out yesterday that showed 37% of the country have a favorable opinion of the democrats which is down from march. how do you harness what happened yesterday to something that will help you improve those numbers? >> i think that what those numbers represent is certainly that people are turned off by parties in general. the republican party numbers were worse, and moving forward i think what we have to do and what we did in new jersey and all over the country is we made the elections relevant to peoples' lives. we made sure that they
understood that what president trump was doing at the top also really mattered. what i mean by that is that i do believe that last night's electi election results were a resounding rejection of the uncivil conversation coming from the top, and the hatred and the bigotry, and the massage knee. he made so many of america's communities feel like he had no interest in being their president and that matters in these kinds of elections, because you have new jersey and virginia, and you had all of the other down ballot elections across the country that really represent the face of america. what this underscores to me is to this day, one year after his election, president trump still has either no interests in being the president for a united states of america or he doesn't
know how to and he is still temperamentally unfit and howhoy unprepared to take that job. >> look no further than the exit polls for the new jersey governor's race and what they show us is 59% of voters said trump was not a factor. almost 60%. almost 6 in 10 said that. it did not carry that way across. >> i honestly think, poppy, if you look at the broad scope of the elections yesterday, and obviously virginia and new jersey governors, the two biggest statewide, et cetera, et cetera, and i think you have to take new jersey out of that and i will tell you why. chris christie, the outgoing republican governor, was at 11 or 12% popularity going into that election.
his sitting lieutenant governor tried to distance herself from him. that is somewhat anomalous because of christie's personality, and the negativity around him. but i think if you look at the medicaid expansion referendum in maine, i think if you look at the manchester mayor's race where a democrat won, and the idea that democrats might fight to a 50/50 tie in the house of delegates in virginia, and they were down 36/44 going into that last night. it strikes me that how those races were won and where they were won is about donald trump and his first year in office. >> so mary katherine hamm, the president thinks the problem that ed gillespie had he did not run close enough to trump. he did not embrace me or what i stand for. is the lesson here for
republican candidates going forward to be more trump or less trump? >> well, that's the million-dollar question, john. thank you for posing it. virginia has two very stdistinc sections of the state. ed gillespie did run in 2014, he focused on the northern virginia voters and that's why he won the county, and he tried to do a dance and that dance failed with trump at the top of the ticket symbolically. when you are looking at colorado, and there was bad data out of there, and how in the purplish/involving into blue states, you do that dance and succeed. i think you can still in a red state -- i think the biggest question for the future of politics is in the rust belt states where we have not seen it tested yet. >> is there a risk in -- you
know, in getting egos that are too inflated off of last night for democrats? the president is coming back to a different america than he left. is there a risk here? do you have a caution for your fellow democrats? >> absolutely. the caution is let's not sleep on our hroerlz, and this is one step back and it will be a long road. i think democrats do deserve to feel good today. yesterday we were talking on the air that it could be that ed gillespie could win and it was a blowout. democrats need to be careful moving forward and we need to plan the pathway for 2018, and that's happening now. one of the lessons we can take, and you have to give credit where credit is due, the dnc and tom perez and all of the committees and all of the allied
progressive groups -- they were all out there, including emerge america, including our revolution, working together, even while some of these things in the democratic party were being made public, they knocked on 1 million more doors than mckulif did before. >> republican retirements, a lot of people watching that today? >> i think you should. if you are in the governing wing of the republican party, yesterday was a bad day. and go read a statement about why he decided to leave. >> thank you all so much. >> thank you. ahead for us, a lot this
morning. do not underestimate us, do not try us. words from the president going directly after north korean leader, kim jong-un. also the head of the cia set sitting down with a known conspea conspea conspeary theorist. why? because the president asked him to. [ keyboard clacking ] [ clacking continues ] good questions lead to good answers. our advisors can help you find both. talk to one today and see why we're bullish on the future. yours. talk to one today and see why we're bullish on the future.
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conspiracy. c donald trump landed in beijing hours after a fiery speech aimed at kim jong-un in north korea. listen. >> do not underestimate us and do not try us. we will defend our common security, our shared prosperity, and our sacred liberty. >> fiery, but maybe not as fiery as we have heard in the past,
and the response from north korea. we are done listening. cnn's jeff zeleny live in beijing traveling with the president. jeff, it was interesting. it was a newer, perhaps softer and more calculated tone we heard from the president on north korea. >> reporter: good morning, john and poppy. it was certainly a more measured tone. the words were definitely harsh. he was definitely building an argument, in fact, to the world as whereas to why there needs to be a joint effort to confront the regime of kim jong-un, and he was talking to the leaders of china here and russia, as well, about the need to financially squeeze north korea. front and center in that address was also america's role in a korean peninsula and what america's history means in this moment. let's watch. >> america does not seek conflict or confrontation, but we will never run from it.
history is filled with disguarded regimes that foolishly tested america's resolve. anybody who doubts the strength or determination of the united states should look to our past and you will doubt it no longer. >> so those words are hanging in the air here as the president arrived in beijing, of course, for one of the most consequence consequenceal stops here in asia. the president trying to make the argument here as the red carpet was indeed rolled out for him when he arrived. he's sleeping now but will have meetings tomorrow with xi jinping. that's not all that is on the agenda here, john and poppy. >> not all at all, for a lack of a better way to say that.
and there's a power struggle between president xi and president trump. >> reporter: that's why this meeting is the most consequenceal stop. of course president trump, it has been one year since his election, and there's no question, there's so much flat ery going on. when president trump was flying over to asia, a reporter asked if he was worried about president xi is more popular, and he said, excuse me, so am i. president trump is defensive about his popularity, and it's more of a central question here with the election results back in the u.s. and virginia and new
jersey. front and center, when these two leaders meet today it's a power struggle as they really shape a new relationship with new economic relationships and dynamics going forward. president trump talked so much about china, saying it was raping u.s. jobs and taking down the economy, and i do not expect to hear that today and it's all the president trying to bring him onboard, but a power struggle, no question. >> what happened to the tariff that was going to be laid on chinese imports? >> or the currency manipulation, which never happened. >> there's a long list. it's nice to have you here with us, mr. kirby. john is right when he said the speech was not as fiery as it could have been, and notably
missing the term rocket man. i assume you are happy to see it toned down? >> yeah, i am. it was appropriate for the task. in seoul is not the place to be throwing around rocket man. and those that wanted him to be muscular on kim jong-un was happy with that speech. he aligned himself, finally, with the rest of the national security team. they have been working well to come up with a strategy. he's been out there tweeting things like rocket man and saying things like fire and fury and undermining the diplomatic efforts that his own secretary of state has been trying to pursue. for me it was gratifying to see him speak in more measured and deliberate tones. what i would like to have heard that i did not hear was the strength of the bilateral
relationship with south korea. the speech was dominated by looking at the path and how great south korea is, which they are, and north korea, and he did not advance the alliance we share with south korea. >> he had one interesting line. anybody that doubts the strength should look to our past and you will doubt it no longer. and part of the u.s. past includes dropping two atomic bombs on japan, and was that part of the speech? >> i thought he was speaking to the whole history of the u.s. in the pacific. i can see where some might take it the other way. also, sort of irony of the line is that some of that past, even though he likes to throw
strategic patience under the bus and claim president obama didn't do anything, and part of the past, the reason why we are so well postured in the region is because president obama did pivot military forces to the pacific, because we put more in the pacific to build alliances and foster relationships. part of the reason he has capabilities is because of the previous administration. >> that's an interesting point. it seems like in the last 48 hours he made a pivot at least in his language when it tries to make clear, yes, the united states preferred diplomacy. all of those around him in the intelligence and military community said that, but he talked 24 hours ago about making progress on the front with north korea and the words he used last night, america does not seek conflict or confrontation but we will never run from it. notable to you? >> i was glad to hear him talk about diplomacy in that way, and i think it's valuable that he puts that front and center, as the rest of his team has.
that said, poppy, when he said that, you know, people are talking about he cracked open the door to diplomacy and he closed it a little bit, because as soon as he said it, and he said but you will have to meet the preconditions of no more aggressions and you will have to dismantle your nuclear program, and we all know from listening to will ripley, they are not going to do that. when you set up it like that you close the door on diplomacy. i don't think he advanced the ball on that. >> everything can be learned from listening to will ripley. >> thank you. today marks one year since donald trump was elected president and the stock market has made huge gains since then. every time the president tweets and we don't talk about the stock market enough, i think of
you. >> he was standing in seoul and talked about what a miracle it has been in the american economy and stock market and he talked about isis and the supreme court pick, too. the stock market is really a scorecard that this president likes to take credit for. let's look at what happened over the past year. do you remember on election night -- >> i do remember election night. >> i remember the do you being down 900 points. they did not anticipate a trump victory, and then it was off to the races. this is the dow up 30%. 30%. that's the trump bump. let's put it on top of the overall bull market and you can see how far we have come. the trump bump, 21,000, 22,000, 23,000, and closing in on 24,000. there's a lot of reasons here. corporate profits and good companies are making tons and tons of money. the economy is strengthening, and consumers are spending. you have global economic growth
in general and peace, relative peace. these are all reasons why the stock market has been going up. but presidents get too much credit and blame for the economy and stocks. if you look at the chart again you can see that a lot of people felt pretty bad under that obama stock market rally. in fact, that's one of the reasons why donald trump gaot elected. there's an interesting e trade poll. investors think it's a strong economy driving that, and that is over that donald trump is driving the economy. after trump was elected, lots of business leaders felt like a switch had been flipped on from anti-business to pro business, and a lot of that is sentiment and psychology. >> but it matters. >> regulations being cut. tax cuts, they think, are coming. if it's not tax reform they
think it will be cuts for companies and that means money. the companies are doing great. >> i will watch the markets to see how they react to the elections overnight. >> we'll see. a conspiracy theorists and a cia director sit down for a meeting. this is not a bad joke. this happened and it happened because president trump wanted it to, and sources tell us about why they met, next. let's get started. show of hands. who wants customizable options chains? ones that make it fast and easy to analyze and take action? how about some of the lowest options fees? are you raising your hand? good then it's time for power e*trade
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the head of the cia and a known conspiracy theorist, william benny, and some say it was at the question of president trump. >> he believes the theft and leak of the dnc was an inside job, and not the russian government. and michelle kaczynski in washington with more. a lot of people asking questions about this, michelle. >> multiple intelligent sources tell cnn this meeting happened two weeks ago, and they also tell cnn many people within the cia were very uncomfortable with this. the sources say he wanted his cia director to meet with somebody that doesn't believe it was russia that hacked into the dnc's e-mails and released them before the election even though the u.s. intelligence community determined it was russia. this person is william benny.
he is 74 years old and worked at the nsa for 30 years but since has become a critic, and some of the methods of the nsa are ineffective and some are too effective and spying on americans. his theory is that the dnc hack was an inside job. it was a dnc employee. however, he's basing this theory on questions that were raised over certain things like the speed at which one of the archives was created that was then released by the hacker tkpweufp atpur 2.0. the story has many holes poked in it by other analysts. in this meeting that lasted about an hour, benny says that pompeo told him the president told me i should talk to you,
and benny said the entire intelligence community needs to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. now the cia released a statement saying cia director pompeii yos stands by and has always stood by the assessment about russian hacking, and benny also told cnn in this meeting that pompeo wants him to meet with other people in the fbi and the nsa. where is this going from here? why this other investigation, or looking into other theories? the white house so far has not responded. >> michelle, thank you for the reporting. with us now, steve hall, cnn national security analyst, and cia chief of russia operations. all of that reporting is significant. it's pretty shocking. the fact that the meeting began with pompeo saying you are hear because the president wanted me to meet with you. why does this matter so much?
>> one thing it does, poppy, it highlights the difficult position that pompeo is in as director of cia. any director of the cia has to maintain a close relationship with the president. he has to maintain the president's ear, if he doesn't he really loses a lot in his ability to impact things and his ability to forward the information. even if he didn't want to meet with this benny character, and apparently he has the president saying i would like you to, and unless he wants to sacrifice his power as director of cia, his ability to convey good intelligence in the future, he has to do that. that's a difficult position for any cia director to be in, frankly. >> what message does it send, though, to those in the intelligence service that mike pompeo, the director, is meeting with the guy that says it was not the russians when all of their analyses, the reports put out says they do think it's the
russians. what do the rank and file think? >> i can tell you, the analysts that we have at cia and across the intelligence community, a specific concentration of them at the cia are incredibly professional and there's a lot of them that committed pretty much their entire careers to things like russia, and russia cyber and so forth. i don't think those people are threatened by the fact that the director of the cia at the president's request had to meet with this fringe guy. i don't think that's a big impact on them. but just the comparison between those two sources of information. you have got these -- again, an incredible depth of information and intelligence prowess and expertise in the analysts, and then you have a fringe guy, and i think it speaks more of what the president is trying to get through than what the cia is producing. >> our reporting is not that pompeo said thank you for your
time, see you soon or never. he ended the meeting by saying i think you should meet with the fbi and the nsa as well. doesn't that counter? >> i think that gets back to that first tension that i was referring to, where you have got mike pompeo, first of all, politically, he's more in trump's camp, he's a republican. you can't just blow the president off and he's inclined to say let's give this a little further thinking on it. but by way of analogy, if you have a horrible disease you don't want to check with your next door neighbor or the guy down the block that says he knows something about the disease, what do you think so you get all sides, no, you will go to a major clinic or a hospital that has expertise, and anything else is a distraction and there's other reasons for why the director would say let's talk to other parts of the
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about this man who would go on to be a mass murderer. >> reporter: yeah, poppy, it's sort of the series of red flags now that seems to indicate that for a long time devin kelley has been a threat not only to those around him but it seems at some point to himself as well. the question we are wondering at this point, many in the community, why nobody connected the dots. there was that 2012 escape from a behavioral health clinic, a health facility in new mexico. he was thereafter the assault charges when he was in the air force on his then-wife and step son, and he was being held thereafter, according to a police report from el paso, he made threats against his commanding officers and tried to sneak weapons on to the air force base. now it turns out local police found him as a greyhound station. once they got to him he did not
make threats against himself or others but they were warmed that he may be able to harm himself or others in that situation. he was, quote, suffering from a mental disorder. this on top of the assault charges, and we know about animal cruelty violations in the past, and there are others starting to emerge that paint this picture. as they figure out the motive, they talk about the fact that he had some sort of ongoing dispute with his in-laws, and local police indicate that may be why he chose the first baptist church is because his mother-in-law attended that church. but they have not been able to get into his phone right now. they started off by saying this is something we have dealt with before in high profile cases, and because of the encryption technology we cannot get into his phone. his online profile, that social
media footprint already shows that he was showing some kind of obsession with mass shootings and violence. now sort of turning the corner, vice president mike pence is coming this afternoon to visit survivors in the hospital and talk to law enforcement and speak at a vigil later today at the high school. >> it's good that he will be there to honor the fallen. thank you very much, diane. in the wake of the texas massacre, there's legislation that will try to make the mandatory for the reporting of that. >> it's unusual that is something taking place here on capitol hill, but there's bipartisan legislation being introduced now. senator jeff flake, the outspoken trump critic along with his counterpart, martin heinrich, and the idea behind the legislation is to require
the military to report misdemeanor violent convictions. the texas shooter who had been convicted of domestic violence for the assault against his wife and child, the air force failed and acknowledged they failed to pass or relay that information on to the critical database. that is the loophole he used to purchase that deadly weapon. this is just a small step but senators believe it could be a significant one. >> we're looking at specifically something that had it been followed this person would not have been able to obtain a firearm. we are fixing the problem here. >> this is clearly a loophole that is a problem and we wanted to move forward and send a message that folks on both sides of the aisle can come to some agreement on common sense
measures that would make a material difference. >> reporter: there are other senators as well looking at common sense measures. they believe perhaps they could get some small things done. john cornyn, looking at two pieces of legislation that will incentivize the states to get more information into the background database. >> thank you for the reporting. we will follow that. democratic senator, bob menendez, inside a new jersey courtroom this morning as a jury of 12 decide his fate in a bribery and corruption case. we're outside the courthouse next. [ click ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ clacking continues ] good questions lead to good answers. our advisors can help you find both. talk to one today and see why we're bullish on the future.
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. all right. this morning, democratic senator bob menendez back in a federal courtroom. >> jurors are deliberating, their third day of deliberations in his corruption bribery trial. we're learning the jury has come back to the judge with a question which is pretty fascinating. let's go to our laura jarrett outside the courthouse in newark. laura, this question is about what exactly the role of a senator is. why is that germane here? >> reporter: yeah, it was somewhat of a curious request from the jury after roughly seven hours of deliberations. yesterday afternoon, they came back and said they wanted to see the portion of the closing arguments from defense lawyer abbe lowell, where he specifically discussed the definition of a senator. now, lowell didn't actually define what it means to be a senator in his closings, but he did discuss what a senator can and cannot do and he did specifically say that senator menendez never pushed through any legislation on behalf of his
co-defendant, dr. salomon melgone, who's he's accused of takie ing bribes from. and he said, this is a situation where the senator often did favors on behalf of someone who are not his constituents here in new jersey. the judge ultimately declined to give the jury closing arguments, telling them closings are not evidence in the case and they should use their collective memories about what exactly lowell said. but it does show how closely the jury is tracking the evidence and the arguments of counsel. and based off of everything they have to sift through in this case, i wouldn't be surprised if they come back with another question before the verdict is in. john, poppy. >> reporter: a whole lot of people watching this very, very closely. it does or could have national implications. laura jarrett, thank you very much. other democrats besides bob menendez riding high this morning on the blue wave. election victories across the country at every level. we're following all the latest developments, next.
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top of the hour. good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm john berman. unblanking believable. that's how one republican described the scope of the defeats around the country. but he didn't say blanking. he said the size of the democratic victory and the breadth at every single level should be a message about the political risks of this president. >> the marquise race in virginia where the democratic lieutenant governor crushed the former nominee, ed gillespie. but the president says it is not his fault writing, ed gillespie worked hard, but did not embrace
me or what i stand for. but a republican congressman from virginia says, not so fast. >> i think that last night was a referendum. i don't think there's any way you could look at it in a different way, to be honest with you, and to be intellectually consistent. >> ryan nobles is in richmond, virginia, for more. it is not only at the top, it's all the way on down to virginia. >> you're absolutely right, poppy. and think of this. ed gillespie last night collected more votes than bob mcdonnell, the last republican to win here statewide in virginia back in 2009. he won more votes than ken cuccinelli did back in 2013 in a race that cuccinelli narrowly lost. but despite getting more votes in both of those candidates, he lost by an enormous margin to ralph northam, the lieutenant governor. and the reason for that is that democratic turnout was in such big numbers, something that doesn't traditionally happen in an off-year election and the reason being that many republicans are