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horrific church shooting in texas. live from cnn headquarters in atlanta, welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. >> and i'm natalie allen. and "cnn newsroom" starts right now. 4:00 a.m. on the u.s. east coast. the u.s. president, donald trump is set to arrive in the philippines, in manila at any time now. his arrival though, in manila will be the final leg of his five-nation trip across asia. he's set to meet with the philippine president, rodrigo duterte. >> earlier, he held a joint news conference on the issue of election meddling. he was asked whether he believes russia was responsible. after meeting with russian president vladimir putin in vietnam, saturday, he lashed out
at former officials who have concluded that russia did indeed meddle in the election, calling them political hacks. but this is what he had to say at today's news conference. >> what i said, i'm not surprised there is any conflict. i said i believe he believes that. it's important for somebody to believe. i think he believes that he and russia did not meddle in the election. as to whether i believe it or not, i'm with our agencies especially as currently constituted with their leadership. i believe in our intel agencies, intelligence agencies. i've worked with them very strong lic strongly. there weren't 17 as was previously reported. there were four. but as currently led by fine people, i believe very much in our intelligence agencies. >> the president saying he is a believer. let's bring in cnn's senior white house correspondent jeff
zeleny in hanoi, and matt rivers following the story in manila. let's start, jeff, with you. the president first saying that he believed putin's denial of election meddling and then seeking to clarify exactly what he meant by believing. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: good day, george, crtainly the president saying again and again that he believes what president putin believes. but i can tell you, the russian cloud, the russian investigation has been hanging over this white house, this administration and indeed this trip to asia. particularly, the whole idea of the two leaders coming face-to-face briefly in vietnam on saturday, when they were meeting for their economic summit. but the president today when he was asked about that, he clearly is trying to move beyond this russian meddling and trying to have more of a broader relationship with president putin. but asked directly if he believes once and for all that russia was involved, he didn't
have a specific answer. this is more of what he said. >> i believe that president putin really feels, and he feels strongly, that he did not meddle in our election. what he believes is what he believes. what i believe is that we have to get to work. and i think everybody understood this, that heard the answer. we have to get to work to solve syria, to solve north korea, to solve ukraine, to solve terrorism. and, you know, people don't realize, russia's been very, very heavily sanctioned. they were sanctioned at a very high level. and that took place very recently. it's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken. those are very important things. and i feel that having russia in a friendly posture, as opposed to always fighting with them is an asset to the world, and an asset to the country, not a
liability. >> reporter: so perhaps the whole irony in all of this, president trump does want to move beyond the russian meddling and move into a broader relationship, but by not addressing and dealing with the idea of russian meddling, he has complicated all of this throughout the year is not once said directly, yes, russia has meddled. we're going to stipulate to that and move on beyond it. so again, today, he was trying to have it both ways in one respect but still not trying to validate what is hanging over his administration, that russia investigation back in washington. but he did go on to talk about north korea, other areas where he wants to meet with the russian president and other leaders in the region. this is what he said about kim jong un and north korea. >> we want progress, not provocation. i mean, we have been provoked. the world has been provoked. we don't want that. we want stability, not chaos. and we want peace, not war.
>> reporter: so again, this is more of the president's continuation of a measured tone that he has really taken throughout this 13-day trip of asia, not going as aggressively and as personally toward kim jong un but trying to call on other leaders in the region to come together for a more diplomatic and peaceful solution. george, i can tell you, as this trip nears an end here, difficult to say if any real progress has been made in dealing with north korea. so many other side issues here and indeed back home in washington, but no question north korea remains front and center on this agenda as the president arrives shortly in manila. >> and the president indicating that he's looking for more friendlier relations with russia with regards to north korea and dealing with that issue, however, i do want to ask you about this issue regarding russian meddling, the president saying that it's four agencies that support with confidence the concept of russian meddling, not
17. the question here, do we have any indication on that? because quite frankly, it's the first time i'm hearing that. >> reporter: yes, we do. in fact, the president has talked about this several times. the and george, what he means by this, there was a unanimous agreement among u.s. intelligence agencies that there was russian meddling in the election. only four of those agencies actually signed off on that report. they were the fbi, the cia, the dni, the director of national intelligence, agency the like that. there are 14 other or 13 other, excuse me, agencies that aren't actually in the purview, intelligence officials in the energy department, so they didn't say they disagreed, they simply didn't sign onto this report because it was not in their lane if you will. the president has used that repeatedly to sort of raise questions about the unanimity of the intelligence that communities view on this. but the reality here, george, i
still remember that moment this sumn summer in a hearing where they stood, person by person. they were asked by senator mark warner, do you believe that russia meddled in the election. to a person, all six said yes, sir, yes, sir. so there's no question that throughout the government that they believe that the russia meddled in the election. the only question here, george, is was there collusion between the trump campaign and the kremlin. that is something we do not know. that is why this investigation is still going forward. >> jeff zeleny, good to have you to bring clarity to that issue, live for us in hanoi. we'll switch over to matt rivers, following the story in manila. what can be expected here of the president's meeting with president duterte? the two are said to have a very warm relation. >> reporter: yeah, i mean,
that's going to be the bilateral meeting that we're really all looking ford looking for in terms of that photo op. and president duterte is a very controversial figure worldwide. the philippine president has undergone a brutal crackdown on drugs here in the philippines over the last year or so. and it's been a mission where he has not only targeted drug dealers but drug users as well. and in that process, human rights groups say he has conducted extra-judicial killings and time and again has violated people's rights and condemned by human rights groups across the globe because of that. the question is will president trump bring that up? will he challenge president duterte about that, something he is very sensitive about when other leaders bring that up. the white house does tell cnn that president trump will bring that up in some respect. there are two sides of the coin.
president duterte has said that president trump has praised him for his ongoing fight against drugs. and there is a warm rapport as was described by one official by both men. you have a dichotomy. on one hand, the white house says donald trump will bring up that issue, but on the other hand, they're friendly. so what will be the outcome of that? and what human rights groups are concerned about is if donald trump does not bring that up forcefully and challenge president duterte on this ongoing war against drugs then does he in essence give duterte a free pass to do what he's doing. it is going to be one of the most-talked-about meetings at the asean summit. >> and the president is set to arrive at any time now. we'll of course let you know as we get indication that that's happening, and jeff zeleny live in hanoi, vietnam with the latest headlines from the president's visit there.
thank you both for your reporting and we'll stay in touch with you. >> all right, so let's talk more about the president's meeting with rod refwrigo duterte. thank you for being with us. playing off of what matt rivers just said, the question is, how does president trump get along or approach president duterte, considering his condemnation by human rights groups all over the world? >> well, i think the trump administration came into office. they've abandoned some of the common principles that all administrations have supported in the past. human rights, rule of law, democracy abroad, free and open markets, peaceful settlements of t disputes. the president has seemed to have
turned his back on much of those principles, and there seem to be dictators all around the world that he praises all the time. >> how does it play at home if he is seen, you know, aligned with duterte? certainly, there's got to be some trepidation there for him. >> well, authoritarian leaders will try to exploit or manipulate, support or perceive support by foreign leaders, particularly leaders of super powers like the u.s. if the president is seen supporting the policies of president duterte, including the extra-judicial killings and human rights abuses and so forth, then it will strengthen duterte's position in the philippines >> duterte has pulled away from the united states and made many negative comments about the united states and more aheinlig himself with china, but now
we're told that he has warmed up to the united states. >> it's a very complicated relationship. the philippines was a colony of the united states and gained its independence in the 1940s. there's a lot of people-to-people contact, a lot of filipinos live in the u.s., a lot of investment and trade and foreign exchanges with students and so forth. so at the human level, there are a lot of contacts and relations, but duterte was opposed to obama's policy when he pressured due ta duterte for his policies in the drug war and extra-judicial punishment of narcotics traffickers. >> let's look at the president's trip as it comes to a close. he met with vladimir putin, had a warm meeting with china, condemned north korea, but did he get any new minimums pledges
or north korea, what is he bringing back? >> well, on north korea, there's no change. i believe that the situation is, there's mutual constraints against all countries. the north korean nuclear program, the solution of that goes through pyongyang, not through washington or beijing as many people claim. so that is in deadlock. we probably have to play the long game until there's some revolutionary change in north korea, so there's really no change there. but on trade policy, i would say that i think the president's abandonment of multi-lateralism is a mbig mistake. and his pursuit of bilateral agreements would make sense in the 1970s and 1980s when most companies in asia, the biggest
trading partner was the u.s. it's china for all countries in the region. so the infraregional trade, they don't really need the u.s. so they're moving forward in multi-lateral agreements, and as the u.s. tries to push sue bilater -- pursue bilateral agreements the u.s. will be shut out. >> doesn't sound positive for president trump, and we'll see what happens there in the philippines. daniel pinkston, we thank you for your perspective. still ahead here, the republican candidate for an empty u.s. senate seat is confronted by serious allegation of sexual misconduct decades ago. we'll discuss how it affects roy moore's chances. stay with us.
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was based on interviews with more than 30 people. despite moore's denials, numerous people are backing up the account about his past. one woman who worked with moore several years ago said it was common knowledge back then that he dated high school girl. >> it could be problematic if additional people come forward. we get the very latest in alex marquardt in alabama. >> reporter: roy moore has come out swinging innist fir his firc remarks since the allegations came out. saying that they are completely untrue, that there was never any sort of sexual misconduct. he said that it is completely unbelievable that they're coming out now, weeks before the election and 40 years after the fact. >> i've been investigated more than any other person in this country. to think that grown women would wait 40 years to come before,
right before the election, to bring charges is absolutely unbelievable. >> reporter: why now? that is the refrain, the question that we keep hearing from the candidate, the campaign, and his many supporters. is this part of a smear campaign by these women weeks before the election? is it being backed up by democrats? establishment republicans? they don't know, but thiey see conspiracy theory. they don't see any proof and until they see prove proo thof him to stay in the race and win. one woman, theresa jones, who worked alongside roy moore in the late '70s and early '80s, when he was a young district attorney, she tells that it was common knowledge that he dated
high school women. common knowledge, meaning that other people knew, and if they come forward, this could pose a huge problem for the moore campaign. back to you. >> the most serious allegation against moore was made by a woman named leigh corfman. she says he molested her when she was just 14 years old. mike ortiz is one of her former boyfriends many here's what boyfriends. here's what he told a local station. >> i believe her. you know, i believe her. i think she always fought with whether to come out in public or not, to let people know about it. but i believed her when she told me, and i still believe her, you know, she wouldn't lie about something like that. >> well, moore, is still pr promising revelations which he says are completely false.
? th >> this is a story that has implications for congress and around the world. let's get analysis now on the fallout. it's always a pleasure to have you. we saw judge moore speaking out publicly, defending against these allegations against him saying they are completely false. and he questions the timing of it all. is this enough to reassure voters or the cloud over him, does that continue to do tanl? . >> well, it's difficult to know how much damage this will do for his campaign. he was only at this moment about six points ahead of his rival for the alabama senate seat anyway, which is way do you know from what donald trump won the seat by last november by 28 points. so i suspect there will be a
cloud, but it remains to be seen what damage it will do. he has lost a number of independent voters and non-evangelicals already. i suspect this will have some effect but there's still four weeks to go. i suspect roy moore will probably hype up the campaign and maybe go to the sort of key bellwether issues which have compelled him and people hike him -- like him in the past 12 months. and that is going to be on sharia law, and abortion and things like that. ? >> we heard alex marquardt talking about a person coming forward. natalie talked about another person coming forward. people who knew him back in the past saying he did date young girls. will this sway opinions?
>> it may do. there have been a lot of sexual allegations across the party and people who have supported them. donald trump, there were a number of allegation against him. but what is different here, it seems to me anyway, this is to do with underage girls. and i think for evangelical communities and others, i think as well as the law, of of course, this could be a much more damaging issue, but as you can see already, there is a partisan, sort of perspective on all this, that anybody who accuses a republican is always seen to be somebody working for the democrats and vice versa. so the politically-charged sphere which exists in the u.s. is being displayed in this particular controversy. and obviously, within the republican party, there appears to be a much, much growing damaging split. this is a bannon candidate after
all. so i suspect this is going to be something which, whatever the election result may be, this is just going to further divide and split the united states, including the republican party itself. >> okay, so here's the thing, so moore continues to say that these allegations are false. he says there's no proof. he says this happened decades ago. the allegation, you know, the situation, happened decades ago, but here's the broader question here, and inderjeet, you're getting to this, but is this more a question of party over principle? >> to tell you the truth it seems there is a bigger question than party and principle. that is that strong thmen in powerful positions carrying out
acts which they know to be illegal or immoral at the time which are now coming out, partly in the wake of the weinstein affair. and this is the bigger question, the lingage between male power and sexual behavior. it's not new. you will see in the supreme court, there's a supreme court justice there that was accused of numerous events as well. so this is a big question, whether the parties, both parties one side or the other have been implicated in these kinds of behaviors in the past. president clinton as you may recall was mired in this. >> we'll see when voters go to decide on whether roy moore moves forward in that candidacy, to decide whether people are willing to give him a pass on these allegations or whether the allegation alone are enough to
interfere in the election. but mr. trump added that he stands by u.s. intelligence agencies who have concluded russia did meddle in the election. u.s. senate candidate roy moore of alabama is again slamming allegations of sexual misconduct from almost 40 years ago. on saturday, the republican judge said it was a smear tactic. he called the allegation quote, completely false and misleading. spain's prime minister is set to attend an event ahead of the regional election. this comes as thousands rallied, demanding the release of members of the secessionist movement. mass graves containing victims of isis executions have been discovered in iraq's kirkuk province. the iraqi military says witnesses to the atrocities led them to those graves.
at least 400 people were found there. kirkuk's governor wants the u.n. to help identify the bodies through dna tests. u.s. president trump arriving in the philippines. it has been a long trip. >> it has been a long trip. now the big question, what to expect with his meetings with rodrigo duterte. let's bring in cnn's former manila bureau chief, now executive editor at the ravler website. a lot of questions about this. mr. duterte was known for his shocking it style to say the least. from his claims that he stabbed someone to death, rampant cursing about world leaders. here are two examples. one comparing himself to president trump and the other lashing out against the eu for criticizing his war on drugs. let's listen.
>> i'd like to congratulate president trump. >> translator: we both curse. we are similar in that way. >> you are interfering in our affairs. then you start to orchestrate what things should be done. and which should not happen in my country, you [ bleep ]. we are past the -- [ bleep ] with that, we asean members. >> a couple of bleeps from the podium, maria. but mr. duterte has changed his tune, we understand, says that god told him to stop cursing. so who en it comes to questions about human rights, how important is it for this
president to go there and raise these questions with that leader and what impact could that happen? >> reporter: it's extremely important in terms of the u.s.'s own messaging. what does the united states stand for now in southeast asia and the pacific? you have shifting power balances here and part of that is because president trump himself has moved away from here, leaving essentially what was a power vacuum. president duterte, shortly after he took office went to beijing and said that the philippines would pivot away from the united states towards china and russia, and that, then, becomes the next chapter. are we moving there? this is the first time you're going to see the two leaders in the same place along with china and russia. how this plays out is something that filipinos and all around the world will be looking at. >> and duterte doesn't like it, of course, when people bring up his human rights abuses, do, you
expect president trump will go there? >> duterte has her saalready sar president has already said that he does not expect president trump to go there. the u.s. national security adviser, lieutenant general mcmaster said that he expected that this would be one of those things where the relationship between the two men could deal with this in a way that would then turn the philippines own pivot to china into a pirouette right back to the united states. so you have both countries coming at this at a critical time. we're looking for the signals from it. will the united states stand by its past focus on human rights, or will it like the philippines shift to a more central leadership style? the two men have that in common. and will their natural empathy
towards each other shift the policy in this region? >> it will be a dynamic we will be watching of course. president trump did not bring up human rights when he was in china either. certainly, we'll be watching this closely. we thank you for joining us. and a church where a man carried out a deadly mass shooting in texas will reopen as a memorial on sunday. the first baptist church of sutherland springs is thanking volunteers and donors for helping to restore the sanctuary. 25 people and an unborn child were killed there a week ago. >> it was the deadliest mass shooting ever in texas. the suspect, devin kelley passed background checks when buying guns, because the united states air force failed to report his court-martial conviction. he pleaded guilty to assaulting his stepson and ex-wife. she's now speaking out for the
first time describing how kelley threatened her. he once pointed a gun at her after she got a speeding ticket. >> he had a gun if his holter right here. and he put it to my temple and said do you want to die? do you want to die? >> it is a sad reality. but many in the u.s. go to places of worship fearing they could be the target of another mass shooting. >> people think about it all the time. it is very unfortunate. more worshippers and leaders want to take it upon themselves now to protect their churches. >> so you smack it in there one time. >> reporter: will is training me, like he has hundreds of others. >> you need to embrace the advantage of being better than the bad guy. >> reporter: so are you carrying a gun on sundays? >> absolutely. if i'm on property, i will always have a gun on my. >> reporter: pastor brian olch
is a gatekeeper. >> we have a responsibility to every single member that walks into a safe haven, that walk noosewalks into a place of worship, and wanting a place of peace to provide the protection. >> reporter: will and his dad check created the gatekeeper program more than a decade ago just outside of dallas. >> it was so hard in those early years to even get somebody to spend $20 on a subscription to our website. now we have thousands and thousands of churches that are part of our national organization. are are a . >> reporter: and in the last week, their phone has been ringing off the hook. from new york to hawaii, churches call, wanting to learn how to protect themselves. >> we take people who have absolutely no experience, and we pride ourselves on really being able to hone these skills.
>> reporter: in a six-day course, volunteers are taught defensive tactics and law enforcement standards but tailored for challenges a church could face, like how to react with an unruly parishioner and how to use a gun against an active shooter. >> being able to place your mind in there and see how you're going to react is important. >> reporter: there's a psychological evaluation and background check, too. pastor olch and other gatekeepers didn't have any training. they discussed hiring a private security company but they needed more. >> when you look at the outside private security sector, they have dynamic resorturces, but ty don't know your congregation, they don't know the heartbeat of your ministry. but when you look at bringing your volunteers in, they know your campus, know your community, know your members, they can identify things that
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welcome back. another celebrity is embroiled in sexual allegations. george takei has been accused of sexual abuse by a male model. he is accused of groping him. >> he says he was 23 years old at the time and takei was in his 40s. takei has denied these allegation. >> many are discussing how accused are responding. louis ck is admitting the allegations against him are true.
the "new york times" cited five women who say he exposed himself in front of them. in a statement, he expressed remorse without using the word "i'm sorry" or "i apologize." >> this comes after kevin spacey was criticized for his apology. anthony rapp accused him of making sexual advances when rapp was 14 and spacey was 26. he drew criticism from the lgbtq community. >> professor, thanks for being with us. >> thanks, natalie, it's good to be here. >> there are apologies and apologies, apparently. in your book, you say saying the word sorry or apologize doesn't always cut it. how so? >> there are lot the of
different ambiguities there, if you just say i regret something, you're you're indicating a state of mind. you really have to indicate remorse by using words like apology our sore eye. particular -- sorry, particularly with a public apology. in a public apology where it's at a distance, it's much easier to try to be slippery. >> right. give us an example of maybe a historic apology, from the political world, which i'm sure there are many of those. >> yeah, i found that there were lots more bad apologies than good apologies. and there was a great old one from harry truman. give'em hell, harry, made a, some intemperate comes about the marine corps, and he had to apologize to them. and he basically said, i stand by my sentiments, but i apologize for the way i
expressed it. >> so that's not enough? >> not enough. >> right. and so, and the reason is, they just want to make it go away? >> yeah. especially when you hear something really awful, it's hard to own up to that. it's hard to say what you did wrong. so people try and use shortcuts. they try and make excuses. they try and shift the blame. and they use language that's just plain insincere. things like i apologize if anyone is offended. it's like a verbal jujitsu where the flip the apology back on the person who was harmed. >> we've seen apologies from powerful people in the entertainment world, including kevin spacey, and i want to mention him, because what you just said kind of holds true for him. i don't remember the encounter, but if i did behave this way, i owe this person the sincerest apology. what do you think of that? >> exactly. he's not apologizing.
he's saying, you know, i'm apologizing, i would apologize for whatever happened, but i don't know that anything d aid, but if it did i apologize. so there's really no there there. >> we had louis ck issue an apology, but i didn't say the word "apology" or "sorry." and really, after listening to it, many people on twitter said that didn't cut it. he talked about power and being admired. but he never really said i'm sorry for it. >> right, it was all about him. and when you apologize, you have to do what i call the three rs. you have to show some remorse, that you're really sorry by being sincere. you have to take responsibility, and you have to make some repairs. and all louis ck did was just say this is true. so he skips right it to the end of it's true. forgive me. let's move on.
>> so why in the era of social media, professor, and transparency, while facing such serious issues, would someone issue such a non-apology? >> it takes people a long time to sort of get to the point where they can really accept that they did something wrong and accept the shame of what they have done. so often i call this the apology two step. sometimes it's a three step, where people issue a bad apology. they'll think about it some mosh a -- more and find out that it was a poor apology. they're not satisfied with it and they may come back and make a stronger, more remorseful apology. i hope that happens. >> yeah, these are lessons we all can use in our life. professor and author of "sorry about that."
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dangerous smog situation in new delhi is getting worse. >> yes, and it's causing health problems. derick's here to tell us about it. >> we have this index, the air quality index. we were reporting 500 aqi, now it's at 700 plus. that gives an indication of how thick this pollutant is that's blanketing the city right now. you can see from yourself. check out the video coming out from that area. and the congestion on the roadways is adding to the problem. smog, why is it unhealthy? there's ozone. there's good ozone and bad ozone. it's bad when it's close to the areas where we live, where we work. this is a mixture of emissions there. and when we find it at ground level it can cause serious health issues, coughing,
worsening in asthma and difficulty breathing. if you've been to a metropolitan area, you've seen it. it's not only health problems from smorks rememb from smog, remember the environmental damage, affecting crops and streams. it's obstructing your visibility of some of those hand marlandma you travel to these cities for in new delhi for instance. remember the size of a combustion. we're talking about these pollutants, list than 2.5 microns. if you think about a human hair, 50-70 microns in diameter. that can get trapped in your lungs, but a combustion particle like pollutants from trucks and
vehicles and construction can get trapped. that's what exacerbates your asthma or respiratory problems. here's the aqi index, it is off the charts here. that's how bad it is in new delhi. you can see it from space. they're reporting levels extremely unhealthy and very dangerous. so it's going to continue at least for the foreseeable future. we have to reduce the emissions that are contained across that area and also change the wind direction as well. let's bring you to the united states. we've got an active weather system across the east and midwest. the calendar says november, it feels like january from d.c. to baltimore, central park in new york and boston and pittsburgh. they're waking up to nmore recod low temperatures across the east coast. that's snowfall, as well, if you're flying in or out of
chicago today there could be delays because of the slick roads. >> thank you so much, derick. and we understand the big story, we're following, president trump has arrived in manila in the philippines. weigh will bri we will bring you a reporting as we speak to our correspondents in the next hour. i'm george howell. >> i'm natalie allen. we'll be right back.