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most recently, a woman who says moore grabbed him and put his hands on her body without her consent. people in alabama who support roy moore don't appear to be swayed in large numbers by these accusations, they blame the media and establishment republicans for spreading lies. let's go to the white house now and correspondent boris sanchez. boris, president trump called out a sitting democratic senator by name of a shauchexual harass charges came out about him, al franken, but he's handled this roy moore question differently, even ignoring it. how do white house insiders explain the silence? >> reporter: well, a republican source to the white house told cnn earlier this week that the president was apprehensive about getting involved in a conversation regarding the in-sexual contact accusations levied against roy moore, in part because of his own allegations and controversies in the past. the president specifically did
not want to get dragged into a conversation about his own being a could you seers. it's important though to go over the time line here. because the accusations against roy moore came out more than a week ago. the white house -- the president was actually on that 12 day trip to asia and there was an initial statement that was put out saying that if these allegations were true, then roy moore should drop out of the race. at one point during a get and answer session with reporters on air force one, the president said that he hadn't had enough time to goat to this controversy. that was days ago. since then more and more women have come out making these allegations against roy moore, and sarah sanders twice now at the podium in the white house has tried to answer whether or not the president believes these women, but there hasn't been a definitive answer from the white house. instead, she said that the president believes that these allegations are troubling and that voters in alabama should decide who they believe. ultimately the white house is
making the case that they have said enough about the allegations against roy amoore. here is some of what sarah sanders said yesterday. >> some critics have said that was critical to tweet about al language franken and not error moore. >> he has. he did it while he was in asia and i did it repeatedly. i took 15 questions on that topic and only on one onle a franken. so to specific that this president hasn't weighed this is inaccurate and wrong. he weighed in. he said if the allegations are true, he should step aside. he also weighed in when he supported the rnc's decision to withdraw resources from the state of alabama. just simply inaccurate statement to make about the president. >> reporter: so the white house has weighed in, but they haven't given a definitive yes or no answer as to whether or not the president believes these women. you did point out previously that the president tweeted about
the accusation against al franken. sarah sanders was asked about that, she was asked specifically what the difference was between the accusation against the senator and the accusations more than a dozen against president trump. she said, quote, senator franken has admitted wrongdoing, the president has not. >> but still his response to provide moore stands in stark con frost to other republican leaders like paul ryan, mitch mcconnell who say they believe the women.frost to other republ leaders like paul ryan, mitch mcconnell who say they believe the women. thank you. so president trump believes that the people of alabama should be the ones who decide the political fate of roy moore. the state's republican governor said that despite the growing list of accusers, rmoore is a republican and that is what is most important. watch. >> i said to him no reason to disbelieve any of them. i do believe that the nominee of the party is the one i'll vote for. i believe in the republican party and what we stand for and
most important we need to have a republican in the united states senate to vote on the things like supreme court justices, other appointments that the senate has to confirm and make major decisions. >> i want to get john archibald in here. he is there in alabama, he knows the people, the voters. john, the governor we just heard, she says roy moore gets her vote even though she has no reason to disbelieve these accusers. is that a commonly held eventment there, that he is the republican so he gets the republican vote automatically? >> well, among some it is, but it is really an astonishing statement that has shocked a lot of people to hear the head of the state of alabama say she doesn't doubt these women, yet she will vote for him anyway. i mean how many does it take to change that? what do you have to do to be disqualified to be a senator in alabama? >> especially as a woman herself. >> especially as a woman
herself. and i think she doesn't quite understand the political fallout of that based on what i've heard so far. there are an awful lot of people who are upset by that, and certainly not roy moore's hardcore base of supporters which have obviously frightened a lot of alabama politicians. but i think that it has long term consequences that she may not have anticipated. >> what would be the bigger surprise come election day, that roy moore wins despite these allegations or he loses in state as solid red as alabama? >> i can't believe i'm going to say this to you, but i think at in moment the bigger surprise to me would be now if he wins. he will have a lot of support, but a lot of the people who have come in from out of state to support him have actually turned off a lot of people and mobilized the large number of people in alabama who don't really like roy moore. roy moore certainly has a real base of support.
but he's mobilized a base i think that has not voted in a while. and it will be really interesting to see if that changes everything. >> and of course we look at the polling, fox news has this new poll out showing the challenger, the democrat, doug jones is actually leading by eight points. based on what i'm hearing you say, maybe that does reflect the temperature of voters on the ground there. >> yeah, and i'm reluctant to get behind any poll that has come out. they have been all over the place and i don't really trust any of them. but i can tell you that my feedback on this in the last few days has been overwhelmingly in opposition provide moore despite real efforts that he and his supporters are putting in to discrediting a lot of these efforts and toprovide moore despite real efforts that he and his supporters are putting in to discrediting a lot of these efforts and to discredit media reports sgln and y repor reports. >> and yet the campaign has raised about $500,000 in the
past two days. so how do you explain that? >> well, you spin it by blaming everything on liberal media, the gop establishment in washington, the democrats. every key buzz word that you can use to diminish those claims and to take the eye off of the accusations themselves. he'll say that doug jones is just nancy pelosi in a suit. and it will resonate. >> what impact does president trump's response have on this election, do you think? >> you know, i don't think it has much. we can look at the primary in which trump was heavily in favor of luther strange, roy moore's opponent. and although alabama is strongly trump and alabama republicans are strong -- more strongly trump than anyone else in the
country, they simply didn't listen because they thought that they knew what trump needed more than trump did. and they thought that was roy moore. and everyone under estimates how much alabama republicans despise mitch mcconnell. and i think he's tied up in this, too. >> also interesting the dynamics. john archibald, thanks for the insight. coming up, we'll tell you what senate investigators are now demanding from jared kushner after they say he failed to turnover certain russia-related documents. and inside the dark world of slave trade in libya. we'll tell you the stories of migrants being kidnapped, beaten and auctioned off for as little as $400. their stories and how the libyan government is responding to our exclusive reporting next. you can't predict the market. but through good times and bad... ...at t. rowe price... ...we've helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. call us or your advisor.
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blue-emu, it works fast and you won't stink. to the russia investigation now and new questions surrounding one of the closest individuals to the president personally and inside the west wing, the president's son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner. a source now tells cnn kushner told investigators in congress that he did not recall any contact with wikileaks during the campaign, but now senators on the judiciary committee say kushner did receive an e-mail about wikileaks and he in fact forwarded it on to a campaign official. they know this because they got those documents through other people that they have been in contact with. and as cnn justice correspondent pamela brown shows us, this is far from the first time kushner has left investigators wondering what else is there. >> reporter: a new request from lawmakers for more of jared kushner's personal communications about russia and wikileaks. just the latest example of how
rusher in, the president's son-in-law and senior adviser, is involved in most of the key moments of interest to investigators as they seek answers on russia meddling and any collusion with the trump campaign. >> i have been fully transparent in providing all requested information. >> reporter: kushner's role is being looked at across many areas of the special counsel and congressional investigations. including revelations just this week he forwarded an e-mail about donald trump jr.'s communications with wikileaks to then campaign aide hope hicks. he also played a role in the firing of james comey by supporting the decision. and cnn has learned investigators are asking witnesses about kushner's involvement in the firing that is now part of the obstruction of justice probe. he spearheaded the campaign's data analytics operation which is now under scrutiny by investigators looking at whether the russians had any help with targeting fake news during the election. cnn reported russian trolls at times targeted specific states
on facebook including michigan and wisconsin, two states trump narrowly won. the campaign denies working with the russians. during the height of the presidential campaign, kushner along with don junior oir. and manafort took a meeting in trump tower with a russian lawyer that don jr. was told had a dirt on clinton, a meeting he failed to disclose several times. kushner said the meeting turned out to be so significant that he accidentally left it off his form. kushner's apparent lack much transparency has drawn the ire of democrats. >> he is apparently omitting documentsmuch transparency has drawn the ire of democrats. >> he is apparently omitting documents and that is the reason i've long advocated subpoenas for all of the documents, that is the only way we will know. he certainly is doing himself no favor by withholding some apparently. and i think he should be subpoenaed to appear before the committee in open under oath at a hearing. >> reporter: kushner also held a secret meeting at trump tower
with russian ambassador sergey kislyak and michael flynn during the transition where they discussed using the russian embassy secure communications to discuss syria policy during the transition. kushner denied it was meant as a secret back channel. and another meeting that is drawing scrutiny is the one he had with the russian banker during the transition. in his testimony to congress, denied they discussed business matters. but the bank released a statement saying business was the purpose of the trip and kushner did not initially deposit close the personal e-mail account he used for official business when he was interviewed in september by the senate intelligence committee. kushner's lawyer says his client is voluntarily providing documents to mueller's team and has been cooperative throughout the process. pamela brown, cnn, washington. >> let's discuss the latest developments. joining us now, analyst david
sanger, formand seemingly this becoming a pattern for jared kushner. all the meetings he failed to disclose, several times on his security clearance form including the meeting with the russian lawyer. also now this e-mail chain on wikileaks. a so-called russian back door overture, communications with michael flynn. so richard, if kushner wasn't the president's son-in-law, would he still have a security clearance? >> i don't know because this white house is willing to hand out security clear answeances t about anybody. think of flynn who was a foreign a little. this is a situation where just about everybody on this team including jared kushner and the attorney general has a lot of amnesia about anything having to do with the russians and also wikileaks. so either he wasn't being candid with the committee there or he
just forgot what was in his e-mail, but we've just seen so many repeated instances in which high ranking officials in the administration have just forgotten about anything having to do with russia while they were busy colluding with the russians. and that is just so an bun dafrntsly obvious and the president continues to say this is fake news, there was no collusion and there is just no credibility to any of that. >> but yet, let immediame stop there, but i heard you use that word collusion which of course perks up all the ears. what evidence have you seen of actual collusion at this point? >> qulafs going what was going trump tower when they all met with the russian a littles to get the dirt on hillary and the russians wanted to talk about the adoptions? we know that is about the sanctions build. they want the sanctions bill lifted in return for the kidirtn
hillary. so that is just one instance of collusion. and others have been disclosed since then. whether it was illegal or not is what bob mueller needs to determine. >> so the legal element there is obviously the key in terms of the investigation. julian, the other piece of this, each time investigators are forced to go back to kushner, again this is a person who is inside the white house. >> yes, this is a case where you can call it am measles i can't, y amnesia, for getting, the to sit of transparent. each time we don't get all the informationmeasles i can't, amnesia, for getting, the to sit of transparent. each time we don't get all the information and mueller has too keep going back to this top official, a family member, and we have these surprises. so credibility is everything when it comes to an investigation like this and gradually that has eroded. and so both the congress allege committees as well as mueller just don't have a lot of confidence that the information before them is all there is. and we keep learning there is
more. >> and we keep hearing of new requests for more documents, more testimony. i want you to listen to sergey kislyak, this is on russian tv recently. watch. >> narrator: can you list who you've met or spoke to the phone just so we know who is going to be in prison next or at least will be summoned for question he? flynn, sessions, who else? >> narrator: this is a real problem. there are two problems here. first, i would never do that. second, the list would be so long i won't be able to name them even in 20 minutes. >> that caught my ear, david. but he needed horn 20 minutes to list all his contacts with the campaign. this is also a man who let's remember was in the oval office, a meeting only disclosed because a photo came out. what will investigators think of this? >> well, there are two ways to
look at it. first, he's the russian ambassador to the united states. his job is to go meet americans. and it's the job of the americans who he is meeting to go deal with him, obviously there are a lot of u.s. issues going on, but when you -- u.s. and russia issues going on. but when there is a campaign under way, you have to be extraordinary careful about efforts to influence. and that is why what we've seen happen in the past few days with these to put it generously overly narrow responses to the requests from the committees, is in some ways much more self-destructive for the trump white house than it needs to be. when you read the kushner e-mail that he forwarded that came in from a request for what was called the backdoor contact and the dinner, his response is the right response. let's not do this. it was a response of caution, he said at one point frequently
people want to set these things up so that they can go back and indicate how important they are back at home. well, that is exactly right. so it baffles me a little bit why the white house -- i can understand why having said there were no contacts they would not want to reveal much going on here. but if they have e-mails that indicate that they actually deflected russian contacts, you'd think that would be the first things that they would push out to the committees and maybe send sarah sanders to the podium to say here is this e-mail in which a member of our cam pachb, in this case theth president's son-in-law, is actually turning down a dinner. >> so richard, i guess that is a good question. because the fact that perhaps some of these documents that the senate judiciary committee is saying are missing might actually look good on rusher in, how do you explain them not providing them and could it be that they just sliched through
t the cracks or did they not specify enough the request? >> i don't want to speculate as to why they aren't being completely truthful in their response to document requests and to questions. all we see, it's a repeated pattern and this is just one more instance in which we're not getting the full picture. and i don't know why it is other than that this administration wants to continue to denny involvement with the russians. there clearly was interact with the russians. some invitations they turned down and some in the trump tower they accepted. but they aren't being straight with us. they aren't getting all the information out. it's been almost a year here. it's over a year since the election and the american people are entitled to answers and we're entitled to leaders who are straight with us. and that's not what is going on. and once again i don't appreciate the attorney general just turning into a big joke in
front of a bunch of trif lawycoe lawyers and everybody is laughing. we're tired of this and we want answers and we want the investigation concluded. >> some of our viewers might not know what you were referring to, but there was a moment yesterday where the attorney general did make a joke saying is there anybody from russia in this room, is kislyak around. and a lot of people laughed. we'll leave it there. the investigation obviously creating more questions. so we'll have you back. thank you so much. coming up, we'll take you inside the dark world of the slave trade, migrants sharing stories of horror, beatings, kids nappings, even enslavement for more than a year. we'll tell you their stories next live in the "cnn newsroom." today, innovation in the finger lakes is helping build the new new york. for more than a year. we'll tell you their stories next live in the "cnn newsroom." , photonics and imaging. fueled by strong university partnerships, providing the world's best talent.
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a cnn exclusive report on modern day slavery has prompted a government investigation. for years migrants crossing the mediterranean from west africa have brought with them stories of horror, beatings, kidnapping, even enslavement. cnn has been working to bring these stories to light. a team that includes a correspondent, producer and photojournalist were able to travel to libya to witness the very inhumanity for themselves. and here is their story. >> are a man addressing an unseen crowd. big strong boys for farm work,
he says. 400. 700. 700? 800. the numbers roll in. these men are sold for 1200 libyan pounds. $400 a piece. you are watching an auction of human beings. another man claiming to be a buyer off camera someone asks, what happened to the ones from niger. sold off he's told. cnn was sent this footage by a contact. after months of working, we were able to verify the authenticity of what you see here. we decided to travel to libya to try and see for ourselves. we're now in tripoli and we're starting to get a little bit more of a sense of how this all works. our contacts are telling us that there are one to two of these
auctions every month and that there is one happening in the next few hours. so we're going to head out of town and see if we can get some sort of access to it. t for the safety of our contacts, we have agreed not to divulge the location of this auction, but the town we're driving to isn't the only -- night falls. we travel through nondeflect script suburban neighborhoods, pre-he tetending to look for a g person. eventually we stop outside a house like any on other. and wait. fine and he will it's time to move. we're uppered into one of two
auctions happened. a flood light obscuring much of the scene. one by one men are brought out as the bidding begins. 400. 500. 550. 600. 650. 700. very quickly it's over. we ask if we can speak to the men, the auctioneer seen here refuses. we ask again if we can speak to them, if we can help them. no, he says. the auction is over with. and we're asked to leave. that was over very quickly. we walked in and as soon as we
walked in, the men started covering their faces. but they clearly wanted to finish what they were doing. and they kept bringing out what they kept referring to in arabic as the merchandise. all in all, they admit that had there were 12 nigerien's that were sold in front of us. and -- i honestly don't know what to say. that was probably one of the most unbelievable things i've ever seen. these men are migrants with dreams of being smuggled to europe by sea. they come in thousands by niger, mali, nigeria, ghana.
it's hard to believe that these are the lucky ones rescued from warehouses likes one we witnessed the auction. they are sold if those warehouses become overcrowded on or if they run out of money to pay their smugglers. of these rescued men, so many say they were held against their will. it doesn't take us long to find victory. >> no food, no water, nothing. >> reporter: victory was a slave. we know that some people are being sold. >> yes. >> reporter: some people are being sold. you can tell us about that? >> sure. i was sold. >> reporter: what happened? >> i was sold. you see the mark they are beating. with the electric.
special case. there was abuse, stole their money. >> have you heard about people being auctioned off, about my glan migrants being sold? >> there is nothing that is obvious. we don't have evidence. >> but we now do. the libyan authorities have promised to launch an investigation so that scenes like there are returned to the past. cnn, libya. as a result of that report, libyan authorities tell cnn they have opened a formal investigation into this issue. and in addition to alerting libyan authorities about what cnn uncovered, we also passed our evidence on to the office of the prosecutor at the international criminal court. thousands of zim bob wrbabwe
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up by the same corrupt cop and their releases may be just the beginning as investigators comb through all of the cases brought by the former officer and hesz co his colleagues. ryan young talked with three of the newly freed men. >> reporter: 15 men exonerated of their crimes on the first day. their felony drug convictions tossed four years after a corrupt officer's investigations with are fircalled in to questi. >> we concluded unfortunately the police were not being truthful and we couldn't have confidence in the integrity of their reports and their testimony. and so in good conscious, we could not see these convictions stand. >> reporter: leonard gibson says officer ronald watts framed him and took years away from his life. >> i did two years, 24 months for watts. came back home, he put another case on me. >> reporter: in 013, watts then
a chicago police sergeant was sentenced to 22 months after pleading guilty to theft of government funds. an fbi led investigation showed watts and another officer stole money from a federal drug informant. the conviction has led to review of hundreds of cases. begin be son like many other men whose cases were exonerated says watts planted evidence on him. >> if you're not paying watts, you're going to jail. >> reporter: cnn was unable to reach wats for comment. >> this is the prime example of the thin blue line, the code of silence, never -- i've been doing this work for close he to 15 years. there is no case, no situation that i have ever seento 15 years. there is no case, no situation that i have ever seen that comes close to the code of silence than this one. >> it's torture. because you think in your head every day like how did this happen? >> reporter: both faced drug
charges connected to the rogue officer. at the time, no one would hear their cries of innocence. >> no one would listen. >> what would they tell you? >> there's nothing we can do. you need to call your elder man. did that. wrote the elder man. talked to the fbi. >> reporter: help arrived in 2015 when lawyers with the exoneration project took over their case and helped overturn his conviction. >> now i finally really feel vindicated. >> reporter: the chicago police department tells cnn seven more officers have been placed on administrative duty while the internal affairs unit looked into other cases connected to sergeant watts' team. ryan young, cnn, chicago. and coming up after the white house said it would reverse a ban on the import of elephant trophies, the president later weighed in and saying he is now putting it on hold for
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president trump says he is putting his controversial decision about american hunters and trophies of endangered elephants on hold. here's what we though. days ago president trump said that he would live the obama-era ban on killing elephants in zimbabwe and zambia into the u.s. just yesterday, sarah sanders explained the rationale. watch. >> this is actually due to a
review that started back in 2014 under the previous administration done by career officials at the fish and wildlife service. this review established that both zambia and is 1izimbabwe ht new strict standards that allowed americans to reassume hunting in those countries. a ban on importing ivory remains in place, but again, this was based on a study that started back to the previous administration. and done by career officials. >> well, then hours later the president changed his tune tweeting, quote, put big game trophy decision on on hold until such time as i review all conservation facts under study for years. will update soon with secretary zinke. thank you. just to confuse things how, that came on the same day that a notice appeared in the federal register.
so let's talk this over with rob branford, the executive director of the wildlife trust which rescues elephants. bob, what do you make of all of this? >> thank you for having us. the situation as we read it is that obviously trump is holding that decision at the moment to lift the ban which is fantastic news. there is a slight concern that he has said holding it with a view to review it, as far as we're concerned in the conser conservation world, any lifting of that ban would be devastating for elephants. governments including the u.s. put a lot of man hours and millions of dollars into the protection of this species. ivory poaching is slightly different, but it's all about saving lines. we're still losing elephants. we lost about 30% in the last ten years of african elephants.
so now is not the time to consider hunting as an option. >> what impact does poaching have besides just reducing the number of elephants? >> you're talking about a highly intelligent species. so this is an animal that lives in may tree afrk crc cal groups. poach he eers don't care if the mothers. and baby without the mom will die. it needs its mother 24/7 and we provide that. so if you take these out, you're damaging the entire genetic makeup of that species and their entire sociallasting effects th we don't even know yet. and the last thing that we can do is try to justify killing animals as a way to conserve them. you don't kill an animal to conserve a species. it makes no sense. >> and you also say there is a correction to terrorism in some way. explain that.
>> there has been a lot of talk and research done that some of the funds generated from ivory poaching and again i stress ivory approaching is different to legal hunting. some of the funds from ivory poaching have gone to recognized terrorist organizations and that i believe is what the are from the house said on a day when trump reversed the decision, royce said now is the wrong time to be doing this and he himself cited the issue with funds from the ivory trade going into terrorism and therefore it being a question of national can security for the u.s. >> again, poaching different than hunting. >> very. >> but let me ask you about this, because this is an issue that has at least a personal connection to the trump family. his sons eric and donald jr. were photographed with big game trophies in 2012 after a hunting trip. trump speaks openly about his family's history of hunting. what do you think is behind his indecision on this ban? do you think that there is a
personal part of it? >> you know, i is the hesit her uk and we hear the different rumors out of the u.s., interesting political times for all of you. the reality is the national rifle association and big hunting lobbies have a big influence in government there. i don't think anyone can dispute that. and it would i'm sure be great if this was lifted and rich americans can go to african countries and kill an elephant and bring it back for whatever reason that they find a need to do that. that could have played a part. i think what i'd like to think is that the reverse is public pressure. there is huge outrage, and this announcement was made by u.s. fish and wildlife that they said be lifting the ban, there was a massive support for elephants. many high proceed final individuals came out and said this cannot happen. we cannot do this.final individuals came out and said this cannot happen. we cannot do this. americans have led the way in
protecting the species and this is such a backward step and so disappointing to see from the u.s. a decision that would be totally about killing elephants. and for sport. and no benefit and don't ever fall to the ckoconservation argument. it does not go to help communities on the ground. where a. as what we need to do is to push forward wildlife tourism. that is where the money is to be made, and that will help local people on the ground. and this species is critical to all of us. our humanity is measured in how we treat the species. >> rob, thanks for enlightening us. >> thank you. we'll be right back. when you think of saving money,