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thanks for being with me this sunday. the next hour of cnn news room starts right now. thank you for joining me. we begin with a twitter feud that just escalated with the president's words sending shock waves over situations involving americans in prison. today president trump fired a shot at the outspoken father of both nba rookie lonzo ball and one of the ucla players arrested in china for stealing. here is what the president tweeted. now that the three basketball players are out of china and saved from years in jail the father of leangelo is unaccepting of what i did for his son and that shop lifting is no big deal. i should have left them in jail. lavarball makes the president at times look like the head hauncho of the high road.
he once bragged he could beat michael jordan. this weekend he made a comment the president clearly didn't appreciate. boris sanchez is live for us at the white house. what is the white house saying about the president picking this fight at this time? >> we are still working on getting an official comment from the white house on this tweet but previous occasions where the president has had a bit of a twitter beef we have heard them say this is a symbol of president trump's strength. this all started when the president was on his 12-day trip to asia when the three ucla players were detained. once president trump became aware of this the white house tells us he personally asked the three student athletes to be released to the united states. xi complied and as they were in the process of returning the
president tweeted out wondering aloud if they would thank him for his role in their return. the president tweeted he was glad they were home and should be wary of many pit falls in life. on friday lavarball spoke to espn and down played the president's role in all of this telling them, quote, what was he over there for? don't tell me nothing? everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out. the president's response you just saw on twitter suggesting that perhaps he should not have helped return these u.s. citizen college students from being imprisoned in china over the fact that one of their parents didn't give him credit ippublic. >>. >> let's talk about this with our panel and washington correspondent for "time" magazine. is the president essentially suggesting in this tweet if you
don't offer thanks and gratitude or don't agree with him there will be no help overseas. >> in this way president trump did the right thing. he helped an american citizen in a jam by using influence with the chinese leader. that is the right thing for an american president to do under these circumstances. now whether or not it is ever enough to give -- if there is ever anything to give trump paws we haven't met it yet and where he will go and react from somebody who you think could be otherwise ignored. the players were the ones who trump helped did thank them. >> others are responding right now tweeting a reply saying the president would have left american students in a foreign jail because their families didn't lavish sufficient praise. how can someone be so small in
such a big office. what is your take on the president's message? >> it is like he wants credit. he wants everyone to recognize it and say i deserve credit for this. that was one tiny part in what was a long trip to asia which had a lot of important issue wlz security concerning north korea or trade concerning china and the rest of southeast asia. there is a ton of stuff going on with asia the negotiation to release the players was one very insignificant part of the trip. there are a lot of americans who are being held against their will abroad all over the world. one of them back here an 81 year old being held in iran. his family was here in washington lobbying for his release clearly trying to praise the trump administration to get their help in releasing this
81-year-old unicef worker. why focus specifically on these players? >> what do you think the family members of those other americans who are in prison overseas are thinking seeing this tweet? >> exactly. it is sort of like it does set the precedent if we give a press conference and lavish lots of praise will that help my loved one's case? now lobby that government for their release or if i am critical of the president will my loved one be left to waste in jail somewhere? >> one could argue what was lavarball thinking when he made his comments? >> so let's say we don't know why he had to go there, that he could have just appreciated that his son and his buddies got themselves in a jam and just thank god he is out and move on. so that is i guess where adam
shif was going. doesn't president trump have other things to do than to think about why the father of this kid did something that i think is unwise. why pick a fight with trump over this especially when your kid got himself in the jam? and portioning blame and praise is something you would hope a president would be above. you do the right thing for the right reason. that's what president trump did. you're suggesting that he might not in the future and let's just hope that the president trump doesn't do this take away that he has to get some assurances that he will be rightly praised. this was a celebrated case as was pointed out. the president has to care for the people who aren't in as highly publicized cases who are in big trouble overseas. >> this is sort of classic
trump. this isn't the first time he has gotten into a twitter feud with sports figures. whether it is steph curry with golden state warriors or nfl players taking the knee, this is something he likes to do to distract america from the very real problems facing the country. >> that is what i was going to ask you about. he is a counter puncher. i wonder how much of this is him taking the comments that lavarball made personally and he is upset about those or is he trying to change the focus from russia or the roy moore sex abuse allegations? >> you get it all in this tweet. all of the above. it's also kind of easy. it is -- to even craft a tweet for the time it took him. look what he is able to accomplish. we are not talking about taxes or sexual harassment. we are not even talking about positive aspects of the trump agenda that he might want to
have advanced. he is talking about a fight with an ungrateful father after he helped his kid out of a jam. >> i was just going to agree this is classic trump and sort of all smoke and mirrors. look over here. look at this big shiny object, this outrage on this side and don't worry about the really important problems facing the country that we should be talking about. >> and tax reform is a big one that they are trying to accomplish inside the capitol. thank you so much. we are also following big news in the russia investigation. jared kushner's attorney just wrapped up an interview with our evan perez amid revelations on the trump tower meeting where kushner along with other members in the trump campaign met with a russian lawyer promising dirt on hillary clinton. the man who set up the meeting is breaking his silence and says he is ready to talk to investigators. music publicest rob goldstone
tells the times of london he puffed up the e-mail about what sort of dirt he had on clinton and i quote i could have said the russian attorney believed she found a black hole or believed santa is real. it didn't really matter. when trump jr. replied if it is what you say it is i love it i thought my teaser had worked. more stunning details coming up. first cnn speaks to the attorney. let's get to evan perez. what did kushner's attorney tell you? >> for months there has been the growing perception that jared kushner hasn't been forth coming about russia contacts and failure to list them on the security clearance application to this past week when the senate committee sent a bipartisan and public letter to kushner saying he hadn't turned over documents that the committee know exist so the committee says these documents cover everything from campaign contacts with wiki leaks to this russian back door proposal to
connect the russian president vladimir putin with the campaign, idea that kushner rejected. in an interview with me this afternoon abbe lowell pushes back against the accusations. take a listen. >> the committee investigations unfortunately are devolving into political gotcha games. as committees selectively leak parts of interviews or send me letters through the media or turn jared kushner's very clear e-mail that there should be no contacts with anybody in a foreign country into what they call is a missing document then they are undermining their own credibility. the issue of russia interference is a serious one. these committee actions are not. what i hear you saying is that you don't believe there are any missing documents and you don't plan to provide additional documents. >> what we told the committee is that we would send them what we sent the intelligence committees
and work with them if there was anything else that was relevant and then they decided to create a media event. . so do you not plan to allow another interview with the senate judiciary committee. >> mr. kushner has been very clear that he will cooperate as he has been voluntarily with all requests from committees on anything that is relevant. >> in these cases as you know the perception is often as important as the facts. and the perception has been built here is that jared kushner perhaps has something to hide because these committees say that he is not being as forth coming as others have been. they received the same requests, the same broad requests for documents and they provided documents that jared kushner did not provide. is there a problem with jared kushner's ability -- >> let's be clear again. in my communications with the senate judiciary committee i said let's talk about what else is relevant. they jumped the gun to make a
media avent. any perception that he has been anything but -- in the contents he is saying there shouldn't be contacts with foreign officials or foreign entities. that is what the committee should pay attention to. >> the perception is built because of the sf 86, the fact that he didn't disclose all of those contacts at first and the fact that these documents they say are missing that were provided by others. >> when they say he did not disclose a misperception. it was sent first time with a hit of a send button before it was complete. and then within days it was completed. that is just silliness. >> it took a couple of months for the 100 additional contacts. >> it took a couple of months to get it thorough and make sure it is complete. that is not atypical in this process. >> the bottom line here is that kushner is not promising to provide an interview to the
committee. while his attorney says he is cooperating with congress kushner has another investigation to keep in miend, the criminal investigation. right now mueller is still working through the roster of white house officials who are coming in for interviews. we expect that jared kushner will be one of them. >> hope hicks expected to testify we are learning by the end of the month. evan perez thank you for that. joining us now to talk more about this and the russia investigation is samantha. first kushner's lawyer's reaction. the take away that jared kushner is a hero because the documents actually show him telling the trump team during the campaign that there shouldn't be contacts with foreign leaders. what is your take? >> i am glad to hear the lawyers say there shouldn't be foreign contacts by campaign officials. i have to disagree with one thing that lowell said up front and that is that this is a
political gotcha game. that is just factually untrue and also exactly the kind of statement that the russians want us to make. the intelligence community has assessed that russia interfered in our election. the fact is the ranking democrat and the ranking republican on the senate judiciary committee sent a letter to kushner asking to clear up inconsistencies in his testimony. that shows this is not a republican issue or democratic issue but an american national security issue. >> this gotcha game idea, couldn't this all have been essentially solved if they had just turned over those other documents like everybody else apparently did who were given the same request for documents? i don't really understand how he can argue the optics of that transparency. >> well, we have two related issues here.
one is whether there is anything legal by the campaign including whether after they they didn't turn over documents. the second is the direct attack on the united states. i was glad to hear lowell saying russian election interference is a serious issue. we know that president trump failed to confront vladimir putin on this issue in vietnam. we need to take steps to deter another attack. if kushner believes russian election meddling was a serious issue and there should not be undisclosed contacts with foreigners then we can take steps to hold russia accountable like, for example, implementing the bipartisan sanctions that congress passed on time at the end of january. >> haven't been implemented because of the process. i want to turn to the apparent middle man who set up the meeting. a reminder here of who attended
the meeting, trump jr., campaign chair. goldstone now is speaking to sunday times in the uk saying the hardest part is dealing with people's perception of what went on and ultimately having to say nothing. clients have asked me to do crazy stuff. those things don't freak me out. there is nothing harder than saying nothing. it sounds like he is eager to talk. >> sounds like he is eager to talk and it makes me feel much better that the special counsel is looking into all of these things. >> this is the guy that wrote an e-mail promising dirt on hillary clinton and stated the russian government wanted to help elect trump but in this interview with the sunday times he is painting himself as the height man. >> i think mueller is speaking to a lot of people and i can't speak to how much credence. there were a lot of people making a lot of contacts with
the campaign and that the russian government was orchestrating a serious operation to really infiltrate the campaign at every point possible. and the unusual thing is how open the campaign was to all of these contacts and that they didn't disclose them any sooner. that is very unusual to me. >> we always appreciate your expertise and insight. thank you for your perspective. three of alabama's largest newspapers are coming out against senate candidate roy moore today. why the scathing editorials say this isn't about politics. you are live in the cnn newsroom. ♪ you pull them all t ♪ and how, i can't explain ♪ oh yeah, well well well youuuu ♪ ♪ you make my dreams come true ♪ well, well, well youuuu
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who wants to be the newest u.s. senator saw the biggest newspapers in the state urge their readers to vote for somebody else, anybody else. the birmingham news largest of the al.com papers splashed this stand pr decency reject roy moore in smaller type an endorsement for moore's opponent. the same headline jumped out from all three. judge moore now accused by eight women by pursuing them have a relationship when they were teenagers. the special election is december 12, 23 days from now. what is going to happen next? we know all three papers are speaking with the same voice and earning the same editorial. this is part of it, quote, a vote for roy moore sends the worst kind of message to those struggling with abuse. if you tell your story alabama
won't believe you. as for what the white house thinks about these charges of sexual improprietay and the special election that has potential to impact balance of power on capitol hill the president is saying nothing even when asked directly by reporters president trump has so far declined to offer one word about the race but a white house official is speaking for the president this weekend. watch this. >> the president has expressed his concern about this. the president has not gone down to campaign since the primary concluded. we have serious concerns about the allegations made. also concerned that these accusations are 38 years old. we are concerned about several aspects of the story. we are concerned about the allegations but at this point as i have said we think it is best
for the people of alabama to make the decision for them. >> i want to bring in princeton university professor. you just heard mark short say the president has serious durnz about the senate race in alabama. serious concerns about the allegations against roy moore. why won't he say that or even tweet it? >> president trump usually doesn't refrain from saying a lot about things that matter. we have heard almost nothing from him. you would at least have to think that partisanship is part of it that he is being silent to protect a republican candidate. that is the best interpretation we can give. really compared to everything else from today's news to senator franken we have heard absolute silence from the president. >> some prominent senators suggested if moore is elected he should be expelled, senate leaders, house leaders say they
believe the women. you have a new piece about this idea of if he is elected could he be expelled. you say just floating that idea out there might actually give republicans in alabama another reason to vote for moore. explain that. >> republicans are almost out of options. they wanted moore to step down and he didn't. they talked about a write in candidate like jeff sessions. that didn't happen. now there is a promise if he is elected some leaders are saying they are open to expelling him which would require a two-thirds vote and literally kick him out of office. the only time we really seen it in any significant number was around the civil war era and they are very reluctant to kick out their own members. you can vote for him and we'll take care of it but based on the history there is not a lot of evidence to suggest they will do that. >> what would be best case
scenario for republicans regarding the moore situation? >> i think there is an argument to be made that the best case scenario is to lose it seat. i think if these allegations are true and he is a republican in the senate this will not be good for the party. the baggage that will come with this, the moral problems that come with this will be much greater than the partisan gained from the seat. i think there is something to what the newspapers are saying that this might be a better case for democrat to win. >> we appreciate your analysis. thank you. >> thank you. someone else who reportedly has no intention of stepping down, minnesota senator al franken. this is according to one of his aides we are learning. there have been calls for franken to resign since a news anchor accused him of groping and kissing her during a tour back in 2006. a spokesperson for franken added that he is doing a lot of
reflecting while spending time with his family the thanksgiving holiday but has no intention of stepping down. more details emerging about what might be behind the president's pause for a thought of lifting restrictions on trophy hunting specifically talking about elephants in zimbabwe. we will have more on this developing controversy live in the cnn news room. you can't predict the market. but through good times and bad... ...at t. rowe price... ...we've helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
resign. he vowed to stay in power and preside over the congress in december. the ruling party appointed former vice president and the new leader but has not removed mugabe from office. party leaders set a monday deadline for mugabe to step down. >> president trump putting his controversial decision about hunters and trophies of endangered elephants on hold of course this is all effecting zimbabwe, as well. we are learning more now about why the president may have hit pause on this decision. the president's daughter-in-law apparently met with the humane society ceo on capitol hill friday along with some lawmakers and pushed for passage of several animal protection bills. laura trump is the wife of eric trump and is an animal rights
advocate. hours later the president put on hold his own administration's decision to lift the ban on bringing elephant trophies into the u.s. i want to bring in the president and ceo of the humane society. thanks for spending time with us. what happened during this meeting with you and laura trump? >> well, laura trump and i have been talking for a while as you mentioned in your setup. she is a devoted animal advocate. it is prizing to some people. she is very sincere. this has been a life long passion for her. it was on thursday that she and i went to capitol hill. we met with a number of republican lawmakers about elephants of the agenda of the humane society of the united states, passing a stronger law dealing with terrible practice called horse soaring where the front legs of walking horses are injured causing them to step
higher. we talked about a ban on killing and eating dogs and cats in the united states. >> did you talk about this issue in particular regarding the elephants and the hunting in zimbabwe? >> we didn't have detailed discussion about that issue. we had a number of bills which had been advanced. i think laura's interest is broad. the humane society of the united states is really about protecting all animals. i think she saw that i was outspoken on this issue on wednesday i had issued a blog on my blog called a humane nation about this issue. we began to amp up the pressure on it and what happened is that conservative pundits and business leaders and evangelical leaders and some others really objected to the idea of allowing the import of sport hunted trophies from african elephants who have become a cause because
of the assault on the allegnimas a consequence of ivory trade. for so many people this was that the united states would say let's sop the trade but allow small set of wealthy elite trophy hunters to kill for theivery. >> i remember covering an event in which there was an ivory crush in order to send a message about the ivory trade and poachers who are trying to make money off of these animals at a time when animals are endangered species. the president of the safari club calling this a publicity stunt. >> i don't think issuing a tweet saying he is putting this on hold is a publicity stunt. i think there are millions of american whose are deeply
concerned about an action to put at risk the world's largest land mammal to allow or enable americans to shoot these incredible creatures and bring their head and tusks back into the united states. i think that this was the president reacting to an outpouring of concern with the american public. wherever you are on president trump he certainly has a lot of intuition about where americans are on a lot of the major subjects that are debated in our society. i think he has finger on the pulse. i think laura and others i'm sure helped him understand the gravity of this decision from the interior department and that really this is just not good publicity for the trump administration. >> he didn't say he is reversing his decision only putting it on hold for further research. the sfary club president also says he believes that this lift on the ban is going to go through saying science is on their aside saying we have the
money generated from hunting is in the millions of dollars and that supports programs world wide. how do you respond to that? >> this is a self-interested organization, of course. the safari club international is a consortium. they give out awards if you kill different categories of animals. one of the most coveted is called the africa big five. you have to shoot an african elephant, rhino, lion, leopard. they have other awards like cats of the world you have to shoot a lion, a leopard and other big cats, bears of the world. this is an organization that is trading on the exploitation of some of the rarest most majestic animals in the world. the american public doesn't agree with this organization. i would argue that 90 plus percent of americans don't like this idea of americans going to shoot african elephants and killing them for tusks.
this argument about economics is a cinard. there is limited amount of money generated through trophy hunting. there is a larger amount of money that is spent in wildlife watching activities from kenya to south africa, millions of dollars are generated by people who go to see the animals and who are happy to see them left intact after their experience is done. the pool of trophy hunters is small. the pool of people who want to go on wildlife watching sfarys is vast and growing. there is no future in safari hunting. >> thank you very much. we appreciate your time and your thoughts. >> thank you. still ahead, jared kushner's lawyer speaks to cnn as the president's son-in-law is under new scrutiny after his contact with wiki leaks and russia during the 2016 campaign.
when you think of las vegas images of glitz and glamour probably come to mind. off the strip is a different story it's the subject of tonight's episode of "this is life." >> las vegas, every year millions flock here trying to fill a dream and win big. this is the las vegas the world knows, the casinos, hotels and clubs. step off the strip and you will find another world that couldn't be more different. a world where lost people hide in plain sight. >> this is crazy. >> in the middle of the desert. my gosh. in boarded up buildings. look at this place. even underground. it is pitch black in here. >> it's a world that can be
dark, unpredictable and sometimes very dangerous. >> someone is just coming out. >> could be a drug deal. could be anything. >> tonight las vegas natives introduce us to a side of sin city that few get to see. >> someone is in there. >> and it is shocking. >> my god. >> lisa ling is joining us now. what a teaser that is. how far off the strip were you exploring? >> well, we explored many different parts of las vegas. i think the most interesting thing that we experienced and i don't know if a lot of people know this but underneath las vegas there are about 500 miles of storm drains. las vegas floods very easily and is prone to flash floods. and an estimated 500 people live
and inhabit those storm drains. it's a pretty surreal place. when i went in and we went in with the help of a local organization i saw people living on beds down there. i saw book shelves, people call this very dark world their home. most of these people are chronic homeless and are people who are addicted to drugs but that doesn't stop these organizations from continuing to go down and try to provide aid for them. >> you also went on patrol with officers looking for squatters, people who move into homes with no legal rights to them. why is that a problem there in las vegas? >> that's a different story. there certainly are homeless people inhabiting vacant homes. after the foreclosure crisis and the recession thousands and thousands of people lost their homes. they estimate that still today there are over 10,000 vacant
homes in las vegas. and there are homeless people who seek out these homes. there are people who have figured out to gain the system and are able to get water turned on and services provided. and there are task forces that have been resurrected by police departments because they get calls about illegal squatting almost daily still in las vegas. >> so it all points to this idea of people without homes. and as you uncovered this widespread problem with homeless camps springing up just about anywhere like in these storm drains are there also people who are coming into las vegas and falling on hard times or are these people who are just there and have nowhere else to go? >> it's both. las vegas has always been a prime attraction for all kinds
of people and certainly homeless people find it an attractive place, as well, because it is a big transient community. there are so many people coming into las vegas and panhandling as anyone who has visited las vegas knows is quite an epidemic there. many homeless people will go into casinos to see if people have left money in the slot machines. and it's an easy way for homeless people to be able to survive and they also know that there are services. vegas's social services are very attractive for people without homes. they know that when they go there they might be able to find housing somehow because it's a community that makes itself known amongst the homeless community. >> do they just allow some of these people to live in the storm drains or do they find these homeless camps or families that are living down there and
try to move them to a better situation? >> well, it is illegal to reggie aq aqui -- to occupy the storm drains. people just continue to go down there. as you know las vegas can get very, very hot. so it is a more comfortable place of refuge than panhandling or existing above ground in some cases. it's a place that has been inhabited for a number of years but these services that we have been spent time with, we spent time with one of the biggest social service organizations in las vegas called help, they are regularly going down there and they are finding permanent housing for people who live homeless throughout las vegas including inside the storm drains. >> thank you for shedding light on this issue and thank you for joinning us. don't forget to tune in tonight. it's a new episode of "this is
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in new york city, five people were hurt when a scaffolding came crashing to the sidewalk in lower manhattan. wabc reports there were high winds when this happened. but it is lucky more people weren't hurt because that scaffolding fell on top of a subway entrance. making history, latoya cantral became the first women mayor of new orleans this weekend. she clinched 60% of the vote. she will succeed landrieu, our
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hello on this sunday, you're in the cnn newsroom. the president is now locked in a twitter feud with someone equally blunt and outspoken. what makes it so troubling is what trump's words could mean for americans imprisoned overseas. he fired shot at la val ball, one of the fathers of the players arrested in china for stealing. now that the three basketball players out and safe from years in jail, lavar ball is unacceptable of what i did for his son and shoplifting is no big deal. i should have left them in jail. if you're not familiar with lavariola