tv CNN Newsroom With John Berman and Poppy Harlow CNN November 21, 2017 7:00am-8:00am PST
good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm john berman. a remarkable morning in television and maybe a significant moment for women. for the first time we're hearing from the women who anchor or maybe anchored "cbs this morning" along with charlie rose, he's been suspended after scathing sexual assault allegations surfaced. >> this is what important reporting brought forward, eight women are accusing the veteran journalist of harassment. the allegations include groping, lewd phone calls, allegations of inappropriate nudity in front of them and more. this morning, rose's coh-anchor issued strong reaction not giving him a pass, listen to this. >> i also want to say this, this is a moment that demands a frank and honest assessment about
where we stand and more generally the safety of women. let me be very clear, there is no excuse for this alleged behavior. it is systemic and pervasive and i've been doing a lot of listening and i'm going to continue to do that. this i know is true, women cannot achieve equality in the workplace or in society until there is a reckoning and a taking of responsibility. i am really proud to work at cbs news. there are so many incredible people here, especially on this show. all of you here. this will be investigated. this has to end. this behavior is wrong. period. >> i certainly echo that and i -- i have to say, norah, i am still reeling. i got an hour and 42 minutes of sleep last night. both my son and daughter called me. oprah called me and said, are you okay? i am not okay. after reading that article in the "post" it was deeply
disturbing troubling and painful for me to read. that said, i think we have to make this matter to women, the women that have spoken up, the women who have not spoken up because they're afraid. i'm hoping now they will take the step to speak out too, that this becomes a moment of truth. you know, i've enjoyed a friendship and partnership with charlie for the past five years. i've held him in such high regard. and i'm really struggling because, how do you -- what do you say when someone that you deeply care about has done something that is so horrible? how do you wrap your brain around that? i'm really grappling with that. that said, charlie does not get a pass here. he doesn't get a pass from anyone in this room. we are all deeply affected, we are all rocked by this. >> joining us now, brian stelter, our senior media correspondent and host of "reliable sources" and karmmen, a contributor writer for "the washington post" and brought the story to light.
thank you for bring being with us. the reporters reporting the journalism that brings this to the floor, the women's voices forward. this isn't just about the horrible acts that happened over years. this is also about retaliation. firing of the women brave enough to come forward and say this is not okay. >> so, broadly speaking, sexual harassment is covered under civil rights law because the idea is that when sexual harassment happens, it is prohibiting women from equally participating in the workforce. these allegations involve young women who were looking for jobs at "the charlie rose show" on pbs or worked there as interns or as employees and during the course of their employment, their ability to participate, they say, was curtailed by the fact that their boss would walk in front of them naked, would call them late at night and talk about his sexual fantasies featuring them and engaged in all kinds of inappropriate behavior they called -- the executive producer of the show
referred to as "that's just charlie being charlie." >> that's just charlie being charlie is deeply offensive. to hear you say it out loud and to lay out exactly what these women say happened, you know, that's not anyone being anyone. that is offensive behavior. >> i think what you're seeing with gayle king grappling with this is what's happening right now as a society. i mean, it is not just -- we -- our reporting is about one individual with a significant amount of power over a number of employees and eight women's allegations in a workplace, the but reason we were able to do the story now because we do have this enhanced understanding of how pervasive this is. yes, there are some cases that the allegations are more extreme than others, but many people are having to grapple now with the fact that somebody who was always kind to them, who they always found professional, perhaps in the context in which they would interact with him, other people say they had a different experience. >> brian, one of the important, one of the very many important parts of the reporting here is when "the washington post" team
notes they reached out to charlie rose 24 hours before this was published, with line by line allegations, in detail, and at no point did he engage in any sort of line by line challenge. >> right. >> you all are still waiting for any explicit denials. >> i mean, so what happens then? what are the consequences here? >> for now he's been suspended by cbs. i think that will become permanent in the days to come. there's no way he can return to his cbs morning show. he also, you know, has this show he leads on bloomberg and pbs. hard to imagine that show ever returning. if you think about that charlie rose show, the iconic show with the black background and table, he literally set the table. he chose for decades which leaders, newsmakers would be at that table. these are men in various positions of power, whether a charlie rose or a harvey weinstein or dozens of others we've heard about in recent weeks. men who have power to set the agenda and if they were behaving in this kind of way behind the
scenes, in private, in secret, it makes you wonder how they were setting the table and whether people were excluded from that table. >> brian stelter, thank you for your reporting. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> new this morning, accusations of sexual misconduct against a sitting democratic congressman and a settlement payoff two years ago, apparent throw keep it quiet. >> according to documents obtained by buzzfield representative john conyers longest serving member of the house of representatives settled a wrongful dismissal complaint two years ago after a former employee says she was fired because she would not, quote, succumb to his sexual advances. sunlen serfaty is on this story. what are you learning. >> cnn first and foremost has not been able to independently confirm these allegations coming from buzzfeed, but according to document that buzzfeed obtained, this complaint was filed in 2014 and a settlement reached in 2015, and in their documents they have four signed affidavits
from four former members of conyers' staff where they allege repeatedly sexual advances made by conyers to female members of his staff, a request for sexual favors, contacting and transporting other women with whom they believed conyers was having affairs with, correcting their hand, rubbing their legs and backs in public. pretty egregious charges coming from the documents, those accusers against john conyers. i should say cnn has reached out to conyers' office. they have repeatedly not responded to these allegations. so certainly we are floog them. we have a statement from speaker of the house paul ryan out just in the last moments in which he calls the report deeply troubling. he says people who work in the house deserve and are entitled to a workplace without harassment or discrimination and in this statement, speaker of the house paul ryan alludes to the review they're undergoing in the house through the committee on house administration looking
into potential other changes that need to be made to the process of which people on the hill report sexual harassment, make claims, and file formal complaints with the office of compliance and how that's reported if it reaches to the level of then reaching a settlement. now, we know there's house legislation and senate legislation, many options out there, very clear and again, speaker ryan emphasized in the statement additional re forms might have to be reached. >> sunlen serfaty thanks so much. this is cnn breaking news. >> all right. we have breaking news we want to get you right away with sergeant la david johnson, one of the four u.s. servicemen who was killed in that ambush in niger. our barbara starr at the pentagon with the latest on this. what have you learned? >> good morning, john and poppy. cnn has learned that human remains of sergeant la david johnson have been discovered in niger. i want to get right to the key
point here, we also can tell you his family has been briefed by the u.s. military on this development. his family is aware of everything that we are able to say about this. they've had a briefing from military investigators. these are human remains of sergeant johnson that were discovered in early november when military and fbi investigators went to niger, went to the scene where the ambush took place, where four u.s. servicemen were killed. at that time, they recovered human remains and they have now identified them through armed forces medical examiners as being remains that do belong to sergeant johnson. he is the young man whose body was missing and not recovered for 48 hours after the ambush took place. what we don't know publicly is whether any of these remains now
will provide additional clues to investigators on how sergeant johnson died and what happened to his body during that 48 hours he was missing before the body was recovered, reportedly by nigerian forces. this could all be some important clues in this investigation, which is not expected to be concluded for several weeks yet. all dating back to this ambush in early october in niger in africa when this team led by green berets got ambushed by some 50 fighters and when the investigators went to the scene, they found additional remains, they've identified those remains as belonging to sergeant johnson. they've gone through the very painful, sensitive task of briefing his family on all of this. john and poppy? >> barbara starr, we can only hope that this finding helps bring the family some much-needed answers and also investigators that want to know
exactly what led to sergeant la david johnson's death. are you getting any indication from your sources in the early stages that these remains are starting to give them some more answers? >> i have to tell you candidly no. this is one of the most close hold investigations that we have seen in a long time. there is a lot of rumor, there is a lot of chatter out there. investigators have talked to local villagers and gotten some certain accounts of what local villagers say happened. we know there had been published reports out there that sergeant johnson's hands were potentially tied. we have not confirmed that here at cnn. we are reporting that investigators are looking at all of those reports. and the reason this may be very significant that these remains have been found, is you will recall that sergeant johnson's young widow was advised by the u.s. military not -- and this is
very sensitive -- not to look at the remains of her husband's body when he came back. now, of course, every military family has the right to do whatever they wish when the body is turned over to them, but she was advised that it would be very difficult and that she should not view the remains. there was a closed casket during his funeral. so we know that when he was -- his body was out there for some 48 hours, something happened that made it perhaps very difficult for his family to view the remains. john and poppy? >> all right. barbara starr, thank you for this reporting. again the breaking news, additional remains of sergeant la david johnson fowl found in niger. 60,000 haitians could be kicked out of the united states. a major change coming over their immigration status. big questions and very few answers in the death of a border agent. >> and the department of justice is now investigating one of the nation's top universities. why harvard's admission policies are under scrutiny.
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ucla basketball players just released from china after shop lifting spoke extensively -- >> extensively. >> with chris cuomo on cnn. if you haven't seen it yet here is why lavar ball will not thank president trump for aiding in their release. watch this. >> if he said he helped, that's good for his mind. >> what do you mean good for his mind? >> if you helped you shouldn't have to say anything. if i help somebody i don't walk around saying i helped you now. come on now, give me some love. i helped you. man, come on. for real? i would say thank you if he would have put him on his plane and took them home.
then i would have said thank you, mr. trump, for taking my boys out of china and bringing them back to the u.s. there's a lot of room on that plane. did he help the boys get out? i don't know. >> why do you doubt it? >> if i was going to thank somebody i would probably thank president xi. >> all right. that was one part of it. >> of 20 minutes. >> it went on and on and on. didn't get more cogent. joining us political commentators paul and alice and washington bureau chief for the "chicago sun-times" lynn suite. paul, to you, the president is in this back and forth with lavar ball. and you know, who is winning this morning? >> well, these two deserve each other, don't they? can we give them a private table at mar-a-lago for thanksgiving and let them throw turkey legs at each other. i guess in the sense the president is winning. those young men did get out of jail. i do believe the president intervened to help them.
that is a good thing. where he hurts himself desperately, our president, is when he says maybe i should have left them in jail. can you imagine an american president saying he should have left american citizens in a communist dictator's jail? that's where president trump, as always, loses whatever little moral high ground he can claim when once in a while he does the right thing, which he did with the kids in china. you can't say that when you're the american president. i should have left some americans in jail. that's monstrous. >> alex, look, the comments of the president to lavar ball, to his son, to the other ucla players, to nfl players, et cetera, the question, you know, it begs the question, whether there is some sort of race element here, right? most of the athletes are african-american. how do you see it? >> i don't see it as that. i see this as the president, in my view, i think he did a good thing here. i think him stepping in in the middle of a major foreign policy
trip to speak with xi about helping release these three basketball players, i think that was a positive gesture on his part. he made a mistake by expecting them to thank him and then pushing back even further. i think the act of kindness is that you don't do it for anything in return. and the fact that lavar ball has come out and pushed back saying i don't owe you a thank you, here's the problem here. this was a good gesture that should have been done and now we have a big baller and a big bully and one-on-one game here on twitter and currently the ball is in the president's court. i pray that he puts the ball away and stops engaging in this back and forth because he's got certainly much, much more important things to be worrying about. >> all right. big baller versus big bully aside, which is a great comment right there, lynn, my question to you, is america a better place this morning, is earth a better place this morning, because of what has gone on between these two men? it's not a rhetorical question in the way that sarah sanders
sometimes suggests things in a rhetorical question. >> i'll take a stab. i don't think the earth is a better place. i don't have to go off on a him on that one. i concur with everyone. president trump did the right thing. he went to bat for americans who did something wrong. >> yes. >> shoplifting is wrong. and you would think that those young men should have apologized to ucla, and to their team, and everyone else. i hope they have by now. as well as to the american people and thanking president trump and apologizing to the chinese people for causing this brouhaha. but by president trump taking on the big baller in the way he did, either he knew what would happen because this man is a provocative figure in his own right, well-known, or he didn't know and should have known. maybe he could have googled him to know is this the fight i want, maybe the answer would have been yes. i commend mr. cuomo for how he
tried to navigate that interview. that was something. i also read the trips to see if it read better or different. it was something. >> you win for trying to read the transcript. good job on that. >> one thing, i do think the back and forth was entertaining i guess you could say, but look, i think that i understand where this lavar ball wouldn't want to give an apology. i can understand that. but for him to go on to say at the end of this interview to say he would give the president a thank you if he gave the three shoplifters a free ride on air force one and a trip around asia, i think that is really, really stretching it too far. but i think at this stage, it would be best for everyone if they just took their collective corners and called it a day. >> i think -- >> to this point -- >> hold on. we want to get you on something else. just stick with us for a moment, okay. >> because almost eight years after the poorest nation in the hemisphere suffered a really bad
earthquake, the trump administration says it will end the temporary protective status for asians living in the u.s. a -- haitians living in the u.s. >> raising their families some 30,000 children born of the haitians here in the united states as a result. abby phillips at the white house. this follows a similar ruling on nicaragua and one made next month from those from el salvador. what was behind the white house deciding this now? >> well, these are really difficult decisions. as you mentioned, many of these people have been living in this country in the case of haitians for about eight years now, but in other cases, for decades and the white house has been trying to resolve some of these issues and this process for the haitians began over the summer when now white house chief of staff john kelly was leading the department of homeland security, he extended their status for another six months, which is a shorter than normal period, leaving it up to acting
secretary elaine duke to make a final decision. her decision is essentially that haitians need to either find another form of status to remain legally in the united states or go home by next july. for haitians here in the united states, it's a really tough call. but sources at the white house tell me that the white house is very much concerned about creating or sort of regular status for these people who are kind of in between here and have been for many decades. there are some in the white house, including attorney general jeff sessions, who have argued in favor of moving more and more of the folks covered under temporary protective status into either allowing them to leave the country or into more permanent status. by being here temporarily they're protected from deportation and allowed to hold jobs, but that is no longer going to be the case. i think a lot of haitians here are very worried about their fate and as you mentioned lots of children after all this time born in the united states. we know that many of them are
trying to find ways to, perhaps, go to canada because haiti is very much still, according to democratic and republican lawmakers, haiti is still not a place where these folks should or can go back to. >> all right. abby phillips at the white house, thanks so much. our panel is back with us. paul, get your reaction to this news? >> you wonder why they did it, right? it's clearly not because of security. there's no threat from haitians. and, of course, refugees and other immigrants have a lower crime rate than those born in america. it can't be because of jobs. only 59,000 people. and the unemployment rate is at a 17-year low, thanks barack obama, it's got to be something else. gee, i wonder what it is? it's politics. this president has not done anything, frankly, to help those folks who helped him sneak through the electoral college and get in. so what he's going to do instead of helping the people who elected him he's going to try to hurt people who don't look like those who elected him. i think it's a low moment. this country really with was
built by people like those haitian immigrants who came here seeking the american dream and freedom and a chance to live and if we send them back to this country their prospects are not good. haiti is still badly damaged. >> okay. to be fair, alice the haitians, 59,000 of them, came to this country under the obama administration under something called temporary protective status. it was never permanent. to paul's point he says this is about hurting people that don't -- that aren't white. that, you know, that don't look like many americans. do you see it that way? >> well, poppy, you said the keyword. temporary. this was always meant to be temporary. it wasn't a long-term strategy and look, this was made after a careful consideration with haitian officials to make sure they were able to bring these people back into their country and i think it's important for us to make sure that this stays as it was intended, temporary. never to be long term. and they have taken into
consideration the difficulties of it. they've extended it for 18 months to help ease the transition. i think it's important that they do that. and return these people back to their homeland and do it in a way that is thoughtful and considerate for their needs. >> it fits a pattern when it comes to refugees, immigrants legal and illegal, doesn't it? >> one other byproduct of this, this intersects with the big debate over what will happen with d.r.e.a.m.ers, the youths already in the united states, illegally, through no fault of their own, as mentioned now, the haitians who were here temporarily have had children while they were here and i believe you could consider those kids almost a new class of people because they will have little or no ties to the country that they may be sent back to. so i would think whatever happens with d.r.e.a.m.ers may help to them. >> and again a similar decision to be made on the biggest group of these under temporary status those from el salvador, 200,000 in this country.
thank you very much. paul, alice lynn. could president trump's tweets backfire on his presidency? cnn's special report, twitter and trump, that is tonight, 9:00 p.m. eastern. >> all right. a big phone call set to happen this morning. president trump due to speak with president putin. last time they spoke, president putin told him that russia did not meddle in the election. president trump didn't push back because he said putin believed it. what will happen this time?
the last time they spoke putin told the president moscow did not meddle in the u.s. election an the president chose not to push back because he said putin seemed to believe what he was saying. >> and putin probably ask believe what he was skig saying. did the president and the rest of america? the call is not expected to focus on that. it's expected to focus on the civil war in syria. we don't know if president trump will once again discuss election meddling with putin. let's bring in our global affairs analyst kimberly dozer. election meddling aside but noting its importance to be discussed and dealt with, syria, where is it that the two presidents can actually get something done for the people of syria? >> well, this is the task that acknowledgement, poppy, that russia holds all the cards to negotiating the peace there. in that russia is the only one that can negotiate both with the assad regime and with the iranian forces on the ground. the only one that has any influence in them with them. but it also shows the u.s. has
no levers to pull and is essentially ceding this to moscow. the u.s. could say we hold all of the areas in the east of the country and we want to negotiate some sort of independent rule there. they'll probably put that forward. but it still means that this means moscow will be the one basically calling the shots. >> what is the outcome that the united states wants at this point? >> well, they would like the u.n. brokered peace talks to resume and to come up with some sort of agreement that would keep the areas that have already been taken by kurdish and other anti-assad forces to have some sort of autonomy. they'll also want to work out some sort of an arrangement in those cases where russian and u.s.-backed forces come into
close proximity as they continue to try to beat out the last vestiges of isis that they have some sort of protocol to engage or disengage with each other. >> so on north korea, the president announced yesterday he is now adding north korea back to the united states list of state sponsors of terror. it was removed in 2008 under president bush. president obama decided not to add it back. the response from north korea this morning is in part, quote, the hideous crimes committed by the lunatic president of the united states are a blatant challenge the dignity of the supreme leadership of the dprk. a significant response but rhetoric that shouldn't surprise us from north korea. what's your take? >> if it stays at the rhetoric level that would be welcome. the fear is that after a two-month hiatus of testing any missiles or things related to its nuclear weapons program, that pyongyang could go back to testing the missiles. this move has been seen, though,
as part of the trump administration just following through with a diplomatic checklist. if you're telling all of your allows, which the -- allies which the trump administration did in the tour through asia you are going to take every possible measure before choosing military action, this is one of the things you just have to do. it also signals china, how serious the u.s. is about it, but increasingly we go back to the fact that china may not have as much leverage with north korea as the u.s. thinks it does and relations have been increasingly icy. china sent an enjoy there over the weekend who reportedly had no luck, came back empty handed, so again, we go back to that conversation between president trump and putin today. they may also talk about north korea. >> all right. kimberly, great to have you with us. thanks so much. >> thank you. major questions this morning surrounding the death of a border agent. what happened? man's inner voice: why do i have to be stuck here?
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and the governor of texas greg abbott and the union that represents border patrol agents they've all described this as an attack on these two agents out in this remote area. the border patrol union going one step further describing the incidents as an ambush. however, federal investigators just simply aren't going that far. they say that both of these agents, one agent rogelio martinez one of the first out at the scene saturday night, just before midnight saturday night and his partner showed up and his partner made a phone call requesting assistance and when teams showed up there, that these agents were found in need of medical attention. so a lot of questions surrounding exactly swirling around what exactly happened saturday night out in this remote area of west texas and why have some politicians and leaders gone so far describing this as an attack while federal investigators aren't quite going that far.
the fbi is the lead agency investigating this case and scheduled to hold a press conference in el paso this afternoon. >> ed lavandera in el paso, thanks very much. we learned this morning that department of justice is looking into who gets into harvard and why. dot university's admission policies discriminate against asian americans. justice reporter laura jarrett has the details. this is an interesting suit. >> this is shaping up to potentially be the first major legal batter over affirmative action during the trump administration. according to a set of letters i obtained this morning, the justice department sent harvard last week makes it clear not only is the school under investigation for its admission policies but doj is threatening to sue the school if it doesn't turn over records by late next week. now the justice department's interest in harvard's policy stems from a 2015 federal complaint that accuses the school of discriminating against
asian-americans in admissions. they reported in august the doj was looking for lawyers to look into these cases but this is the first confirmation a true investigation is under way. no word yet from harvard's attorney and the justice department has declined to comment. john, poppy? >> really interesting. the first official word that this is, indeed, an investigation into harvard. we'll wait to see what harvard says. thank you for the reporting. quick break. we'll be right back.
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on every subject, including the proposed tax cuts. listen to this. >> you were voted and one of the only [ inaudible ] saying look it's $1600. you know ha that will do, allow a family of four to go disneyland. >> that was a question the congressman republican congressman tom reed of new york and he is here with us to give us his answer. so, thank you, sir, for being here. that was one of your constituents. you sit on the house a ways and means committee, voted yes on the tax cut bill, what did you say to her concerns? >> well, as we had the conversation, obviously, a lot of passion at the town hall but we'll continue listening to the folks we represent and what's indicated there was a lot of philosophy delayed they wanted to take from the 1% to give to
the lower income folks and my answer to that is look, what i do believe, is as we do tax reform, keep the high rate, 39.6 on the books, and look at growing the economy so that people have a better job, higher income, higher salaries. that will do a lot in my opinion to bridge the difference of income inequality in america. >> you said that you're 100% convinced when we get through tax reform, hard-working people will benefit. this gets to the last point you were making, many hard-working people will benefit, but some won't. right. the committee on taxation says those making between 10 and 30,000, some will start to see tax increases by 2021. different people in different income brackets in different states, actually, your state, who will see tax increases within the next ten years. again, so some will see benefits, but not all. does that concern you? >> no. i believe overall -- and we have the sunset effect on the five years, inside d.c., rules
require us to sunset some individual provisions as well as some expensing provisions on the corporate side. that create that cliff effect if you would. i'm confident once we get to that period of time we will avoid that tax increase and so the bean counters should not restrict us from doing good policy and immediate relief, $1600 for that family of four, that's hard math. that's based on doing the math by the typical family in our district will see that immediately and i'm confident they will see that through the entire 10 to 20 years we have in front of us on the budget windows. >> the issue is that that does not assuage the concerns that your constituents voiced to you last night. she said, why are the big corporations, the wealthiest getting big cuts, and talking about 1600 for the rest of folks and john is right, this nonpartisan analysis shows for the poorest americans, that are paying taxes, it bumps up from 3.7 to 4.2% in 2021. that's not 100% of those who need it most getting relief.
>> yeah. we'll take a look at that analysis that you're referring to. every analysis, every fact that we've checked, shows that they're going to see that relief and we'll double check that to make sure because the intent is to provide that relief for hard-working americans. that's why we kept the 39.6% rate on the books the bubble rate you heard a lot of folks at the 44% that will get impacted by it. dealing with the corporate rate we are reducing corporate taxation because we are the highest taxed nation in the world and we still do it on a worldwide basis. the last country that does that. that's why you see a mass exodus of american business to ireland and other countries like great britain getting ahead of us in regards to their tax competitiveness. >> corporate taxes is one complete argument, but mitch mcconnell and paul ryan have had to back off claims somewhat similar to this that 100% of the people in the middle class would see a tax cut because it's just not true. everyone will not see a tax cut within that group. maybe most, but not all.
congressman, i want to shift gears because there's a lot of news. a lot deals with congress and the media and entertainment talking about sexual harassment, sexual assault in some cases, allegations of that, certainly in alabama. i know this is something you thought a lot about personally and to a certain extent some of the worse has affected your family somewhat directly. >> yes. >> as it pertains to congress right now, is congress doing enough to address this issue? >> no. i think we have to do more. i think we've been proud supporter of the no more campaign as you bring up the personal situation that impacted our campaign with a rape in our family for one of our loved ones. i can tell you we will stand with victims and make sure their voice can be heard across the country. no more can we speak about this in silence and in the dark of night. we need to have open and sunshine on these issues and stand with our victims and not re-victimize them again and again as we see often in history. it's time. i'm glad this is happening across america. this is good for america to get this out into the open. >> and does that mean that you
will vote yes if it is brought to the floor of the legislation by democrats senator kirsten gillibrand and representative jackie speier, that would change the way that reporting, transparency, accountability work for sexual harassment claims on the hill against members of congress an staff? >> absolutely. i do support the mandatory training. we've had our office go through additional training on a volunteer basis over the last few weeks. i went through an hour of the training myself. this is important. and i will stand with senator gillibrand. she's done great work in regards to the military issue when it comes to sexual assault and victimization and we'll continue to stand with her. this is an area we can find common ground and bring people together and that's a positive development for this issue going forward. >> that's bipartisanship. congressman, we appreciate your time. thank you. >> have a happy thanksgiving. >> you too. thanks, john and poppy. president trump, vladimir putin, set to speak very shortly by telephone. you know what happened last time they spoke. president putin told them russia
this is cnn breaking news. we begin with breaking news this hour. good to be with you. brook baldwin sitting in for kate today. here's the news just in to cnn we have learned that additional remains have been discovered of sergeant la david johnson. the 25-year-old green beret who was one of those four u.s. soldiers killed last month in an isis ambush in niger. let's go straight to the pentagon to our correspondent there, barbara starr with all of the details and there have been still so