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that unites them. that kind of leadership would win not just elections, but a place of honor in american history. it's time for "reliable sources," our weekly look at the story behind the story of how the media really works and how the news gets made. this weekend, big news, all courtesy of twitter. twitter really reveals the real president trump, his tweets reveal his real disdain for the press. 280 characters at a time, he's ploeting h i promoting his friends, the media outlets, while trying to punish media outlets that fact check him, report the news and challenge him. consider the timing of the u.s. president's latest anti-cnn tweet last night, on the same
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day the russian president vladimir putin signed this into law. >> russia is responding to washington's -- register as a foreign agent. russia sputnik news service reports that president vladimir putin signed a law allowing authorities there to list foreign media outlets as foreign agents. >> okay, so what's going on here? that's the report from cnn international. basically this law in russia is the precursor to regulating news outlets based in other countries. what that means is that the u.s. government funded outlets like voice of america will probably have to register in russia as foreign agents. the same way russia today had to register that way in washington. now, outlets like cnn that are not government funded, but are based in the u.s., are also likely to be targeted by russia. within a few hours of that decision, by the russian president, u.s. president donald trump singled out cnn as fake news, quote, fox news is so much more important in the united
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states than cnn. but outside of the u.s., cnn international is still a major source of fake news. they represent our nation to the world very importantly. outside world does not see the truth from them. cnn responded, it's not cnn's job to represent the u.s. to the world. that's your job. our job is to report the news. #factsfirst. some said they felt this was trump's way of telling putin, make sure you crack down on cnn international or maybe a complete coincidence. either way, trump's tweet reads like an invitation to undemocratic regimes around the world to harass cnn journalists with the blessing of the u.s. president. is this presidential? no. is it petty? definitely. speaking of petty, let's talk about the president's other tweet this weekend, about time magazine. this is something involving "time's" person of the year choice, that's coming up in about ten days. the magazine has to consider who
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should be on the cover, it is logical trump would be one of the contenders. he treated he does not want to be considered because he won't give an interview. you can see the tweet here. time magazine called to say i was probably going to be named person of the year like last year, but i would have to agree to an interview and major photo shoot. i said probably is no good and i took a pass. thanks anyway. i'll tell you what i thought that tweet was so interesting, right, it reveals something about the president's psychology, but it also speaks to his lack of interviews with any outlets not named fox news. for more than six months now, president trump's been avoiding major television networks like cnn, abc, nbc, cbs, and only speaking to his friends at fox news. you'll see his interviews since robert mueller was appointed special counsel, nine with fox news, one with cbn, christian broadcasting network, one with
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another christian broadcasting network and one with sinclair and none for the major u.s. television networks. the last time president trump spoke with time magazine was also back in may, before mueller was appointed. i wonder if his rejection of the person of the year prize or award or honor, whatever it is, is actually just a way to avoid a real news interview. let's talk about the president's latest tweets and more with an expert panel, olivia nuzzi, also here in new york, joe anne lippn and in washington, david zurawik. olivia, it seems to me, every so often we have a flashpoint where the disdain for the press comes to life on twitter. do you think it is because he's vacationing down in florida that the real trump is coming out? >> i think from the last couple of weeks we have seen a throwback in his tone, almost
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2013 style trump tweets. he seems to be tweeting what he thinks and feels in the moment and not thinking too hard about what the effects might be in a way we saw. his tweets have always been pretty insane for a politician or -- >> insane? >> yes, certainly. but i think during the campaign and certainly in early days of the administration, throughout the transition before that, he was toned down a little bit. and in the last couple of weeks we really have seen him return to the style that he became known for on twitter in 2012, 2013. >> this is yolo trump. we have known for a long time, twitter trump is the real trump. unrelated to the instincts and impulses and thoughts of the real man. what i think really drills down on this, two things, the idea the office would ennoble itself, the idea he would become more presidential by virtue of the responsibilities, that should be self-evidently regarded as not the case. in the case of this president. that's actually fairly unique.
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most grow into the office. he's rejected that mantle of responsibility. the second thing is, we shouldn't normalize the spectacle because it is a serious, constant attack at our democratic norms going after the press, going after individual entities, the geopolitics of russia's move almost aside, the lack of transparency, the resistance to accountability, sitting down for an interview. none of that is normal in the context of american politics, let alone presidential politics and we should not be suckered into treating it as such. >> i looked at president trump's tweet from a year ago this weekend, he was also bashing cnn. in some ways nothing has changed to your point about -- hasn't changed in office, and i wonder if it is a challenge for your writers and editors how to keep going back to these same stories and making them feel fresh. >> you need to separate out the style and the substance. if it is simply a stylistic tweet, sometimes you can chase that because it is a fun story about narrative. about something deeper. like attacks on the free press
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and context of russia signing a new legislation to crack down potentially on foreign entities, that's serious. i think the issues you got to focus on the substance, and not get distracted by things that are simply style. that's a challenge for all of us, just like the challenge to remain invigorated by those covering the administration and not exhausted by it. >> let's get a read from david. i'm a cnner, you're not. what was your interpretation objectively of his slam against cnni? >> i'm so glad you constructed that the way you did at the top. i think cnn international is one of the great journalistic institutions in the world. and it is one of the few because cnn has spent the money to have a real infrastructure, with euros and with reporters and with photographers at a time when so many other organizations, good organizations, had the cutback
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or felt they had to cut back and close bureaus. this say lifeline to us in the world. this is a global lifeline. when there are massive human rights violations or disaster, cnn international is the one source of information we can rely on to connect with that. and this is another way that trump recklessly hurts us in the world. we need a supply of reliable information, global information and nobody, nobody comes close to doing what cnn did, and god bless them for all the years when everybody else was cutting back and they were spending money to keep these bureaus open, and they do great, great courageous coverage. the foreign correspondents for cnn who stand on the battlefield, i mean, my god, you see them getting hit in the head with those rubber bull lets they shoot and their helmet, standing
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there reporting the stories to us. and this guy wants to mock them, this guy who never served in the military, never got to the battlefield, wants to mock cnn. he doesn't understand what he's doing when he tells autocratic fascist regimes to crack down on cnn international. he does not have a sense. it is like a 12-year-old school boy talking crap in the schoolyard. it is a disgrace to us. >> the danger really comes because we know that journalists abroad are under actual physical danger, unlike in the united states. and so to suggest that the kremlin should be perhaps cracking down on american journalists is really -- could be potentially extremely dangerous. >> that's the broader context when you see the president tweeting about any anger, especially international -- >> to david's point, i think it is letting trump off the hook to say he doesn't know what he's doing here or that he's not, you know, well informed enough to
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understand the risks of saying something like that. he is putting the american press in danger all over the world and i think to say well, he's just not educated enough to realize that is to let him off the hook. i think we should hold him to a higher standard than that. >> time magazine, let's put on the response to the president's tweet, saying the president is incorrect about how we choose person of the year, time does not comment on our choice until november 6th, publication day. i assume someone from time called up and said, you know what time of year it is, it is person of the year time. your boss is going to be a contender. he is available for an interview? but maybe they wouldn't commit to actually putting them on the cover and thus he got ticked off. >> right, which would be totally normal. you got people in that sort of upper echelon of essays for person of the year, the standard always is the person who had the biggest impact on the news, not good, bad or indifferent. and that's a standard procedure. they're going to call a handful of folks and set it up and do the big reveal.
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but donald trump not only, you know, taking a shot at time, saying, look, you don't guarantee me -- i'm not going to participate. the real moat ration is not wanting to sit down for an interview with a news outlet that doesn't simply offer partisan reinforcing foot massage. >> i noticed over the summer, he answered questions from time but only via e-mail. that was his way of avoiding a real interview. six months without interviews. >> let's be clear, time does not require an interview to be the person of the year. >> two years ago, angela merkel was -- >> the person of the year without an interview. so was hitler. person of the year could be for good or for ill. but they don't require an interview, they don't tell the person in advance. and they ask lots of people for interviews. that issue is full of interviews of other influential people who they request interviews from. >> i suppose at the end of the year, i have to wonder, if the president is going to continue
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this no real interview strategy. the super bowl is in two months. president obama always gave an interview super bowl sunday. i wonder if those traditions are out the window because president trump does not want to have to address questions about russia. >> he's thrown so many traditions out the window. john is absolutely right. we should not normalize it when he does this kind of thing. we should keep screaming bloody murder about it. it is wrong. but, you know, brian, i think in terms of the interviews, i went back and looked at that interview in june of 2016, that jake tapper did, about the -- when trump wanted the judge taken off the case on trump university. and he said it was because of his heritage, he was mexican. and jake tapper said if you're saying this man cannot do his job because of his race, is that not the very definition of racism? i don't think trump wants to sit down with a real journalist like jake tapper and be exposed again that way.
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it is much easier to be with his twitter pals over at fox and friends and with sean hannity and laura ingram and all the people who play this game with him. and i don't -- >> they're going to say -- they're not twitter pals. they hold them accountable from the right. that's what laura ingraham would probably say. >> she's not done a very good job of holding him accountable lately from the right. i've been watching. >> all right, even brett bear said he's trying to get an interview with trump. journalists at fox have been unable to. last word? >> that's a really important point. the journalists, brett bear and schweppe smith, they have not been able to get the interviews. the opinion side of the network is the one getting all the access to the president because it is about mutual circulation of talking points, not real questions. >> everybody, stick around. much more right after a quick break here. including something we have come up with trying to talk about the difference between truth and a lie, sometimes subtle, sometimes not so subtle way president trump blurs the line right after this.
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which is the only egg goody enough for my family? only eggland's best. better taste. better nutrition. better eggs. true or false. it can be a challenge to cover the things president trump says and tweets because much of it is actually in a murky gray area. somewhere in between a truth and a lie. so we tried creating a spectrum of all of the ways he shades the truth. this could apply to other public figures as well. let's start by applying it to the president. one of trump's most common ways of shading the truth is exaggeration. here is an example from this week. he was talking about the coast guard's truly heroic response to hurricane harvey. >> texas has been incredible. you saved 16,000 lives, nobody
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knows that. 16,000 lives. >> of course, the coast guard deserves respect. by the agency's own account, it actually rescued 11,000 people. not 16,000 people. now another example on our spectrum, deflection. trump's not lying when he changes the subject. but he is evading. earlier this month, here is how the president responded to a reporter's request aboquestion russian investigation. >> don't remember much about it. all i know is this, there was no collusion, no nothing, it is a disgrace they continue. you ought to look at hillary clinton and the new book just put out by donna brazile. >> so there it is. trademark deflection. but further over on the spectrum, toward lie, there are flat out falsehoods, like this claim, that the passage of large scale tax cuts will be the biggest in the history of our country. the washington post gave four
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pinocchios to that claim and the committee for responsible federal budget says the gop plan would be the eighth largest tax cut since 1918. we're almost all the way over on this scale, on this spectrum, all the way over to lie, that's the most controversial piece of this. people debate when is he lying and when is he not? this is from the new york times just in this morning's paper. apparently the president is casting doubt on the voracity of the access hollywood tape which he previously admitted was real. quoting the reporting here, he suggested to a senator earlier this year it was not authentic and he repeated that claim to an adviser more recently. that is a peculiar kind of lie, lying to yourself. let's talk through this spectrum and the weekend's news, olivia nuzzi, john avlon and joanne lippman. the access hollywood revelation is fascinating. the new york times shared this overnight.
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makes me wonder what the president is saying in private and whether he actually believes these things. to me, that's a lie no matter what. we all know the tape is a real document. >> right. i think donald trump knows that for his supporters donald trump is a feeling. and nothing that he says really is going to change the way that they feel about him. they think that everything that he does is for their greater good. and so i don't think he worries about that. i also think everything has taught him, everything has reinforced since the campaign that nothing that he says really matters in the end. he won anyway. he was lying -- >> should i bother creating a spectrum? >> we should bother. we should bother, certainly. i think everything has reinforced for him if he lies, it doesn't matter at the end of the day as far as he's concerned. he doesn't care about us calling out his lies even though he wants approval and the establishment to like him, i think deep down. >> cnn itself actually has shown that he says something like,
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calculated 5 1/2 mistruthz ps p day. i think it is a dicey question to even raise. it is controversial to say lie because lie suggests intent. i think it is our job as journalists to point out when things are not true, to point out when they are exaggerated, but to say something is a lie, i think it is a very different thing. >> yet, a lot of viewers at home are screaming at the tv saying he's lying, say he's lying. >> i respectfully disagree. part of our job is to call a lie a lie and a fact a fact. we need to insist on a fact-based debate. sometimes it is very clear, if he's reversing himself on the access hollywood tape and this belief that other people won't remember what we have seen and what he said, that goes to intent or a distension from reality. for donald trump, the baseline is what he called when he was a real estate magnate truthful hyperbole. >> i was going to put that on
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the spectrum. >> it is his baseline. the problem is that instinct, that impulse, which is apparently served him rather well in life is utterly incapacitiable with the responsibilities of the presidency where words master, where they have life and death weight. it is our job to call that out and insist on a fact-based debate, calling a lie a lie and recognizing the gradations. >> the president tweets about the nfl. he continues to talk about this kneeling issue and the league is hemorrhaging, he says the ratings are way down. i would call that a distortion. ratings are down but not way down. that is open to interpretation. >> we get into depbates among ourselves in the press. it doesn't matter if we say mistruth, falsehood, lie. what we're saying is what the president is telling us is not true. whether or not we say lie or falsehood or ining arasaccuracy
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doesn't really matter. the effect is the same if you read a newspaper or an article. >> what is fact and what is not fact. it is really important, gets lost in the discussion, including the time magazine cover, a lot of it is distraction. what we need to do in the press is keep our eye on the ball. we have the mueller investigation going on, per times, we have diplomats fleeing from the state department. sexual harassment charges that are swirling around, not just a lot of media and political figures, but around the president himself. a lot of serious issues that we should be focused on. >> the president is -- we have to follow what he's saying, what he's doing, i don't think it is fair to say it is a distraction. we are reporting on it -- it is newsworthy, they're talking about having a fight with time magazine. we can cover russia, the sexual assault stuff and his fight with the magazine.
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>> to the extent we need to make choices. the bigger point is this sometimes he's trying to distract and deflect intentionally and you won't cover, you won't see adequate coverage over policy decisions that actually impact people's lives. and i think that's where there needs to be a degree of discipline. there is some evidence that it is actually -- that it is starting to back fire with his own supporters. usa today and usa today network, usa today is the flagship and the local papers, and we're half red and half blue and we're very much in touch with all of our audience including those who are deeply red. we go back to them. one thing that we see in our panel of trump supporters is that they have found that even though they still support him, they find that the tweeting is a
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distraction and that it is preventing him from actually executing on the promises that he made to better their own lives. >> stick around for me. olivia, john, thank you for being here. quick break. want to get to the sexual harassment tipping point that made one journalist fired, another suspended, all the latest after this. ( ♪ ) more people shop online for the holidays than ever before. (clapping) and the united states postal service delivers more of those purchases to homes than anyone else in the country. ( ♪ ) because we know, even the smallest things are sometimes the biggest.
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cbs covered this story. here is a sampling of how it was addressed on air. >> this will be investigated. this has to end. this behavior is wrong. period. >> at least three women who asked not to be identified said they experienced unwanted sexual contact from rose while working at cbs news. >> as personal as the story is, we will continue to cover it here diligently at cbs. >> we're all part of the story. i think we're not shying away from reporting it. >> a difficult situation for cbs. and it is not the only news organization having to cover harassment allegations against one of its own staffers. the new york times is facing the same issue, white house correspondent glen thrush now suspended in the wake of accusations of sexual harassment in his past, covered by he issued an apology and the times says it is investigating. back with me, joanne lippman, the author of the forth coming book "that's what she said" on closing the gender gap at work.
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and back with me in washington, za david zurawik. you wrote about the news outlets covering their own scandals. how would you judge the coverage? >> it is varied. i thought cbs did a wonderful job in its coverage. i wrote about norah o'donnell and gayle king. norah o'donnell said we will not have equality in the workplace or society until there is a reckoning and taking of responsibility. she recognized the magnitude of this. this is a cultural change, a moment presented to us. and i think they really, listen, you and i both know how hard it's been for cbs to find somebody who could gain traction in the morning. going back to 1954, when walter cronkite was interviewing the
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puppet, the charlemagne in the morning, it's been a graveyard for them. charlie rose comes along and in his five years, they go from 2.4 million to 3.5 million. that's huge. that's huge money for the network instead of losing money for cbs, they're now going to make some money with him, so for them to act as swiftly as they did, and make that call as cleanly, sends a signal this won't be tolerated, i really admire cbs and i can't say enough about how gayle king and nora o'donnell handled that on the air. i thought they were outstanding. different people are covering it differently. but i think they need each of the news institutions needs to stand up and acknowledge, when she says a day of reckoning, we have to acknowledge how deeply sexist even our finest news organizations were.
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women from my generation didn't have a chance. and it took me a long time to understand how much harder and how much better they had to be in an all male environment and how many of them when they tried to blow the whistle were run out of the business, and it was all done silently with an old voice hiring network that said, she's a problem. she's a troublemaker, she can't handle the pressure. she's crazy. i heard that about women in the business, now i look back and i wonder how many of them it was somebody slammed them into a booth and tried to start kissing them and then said, if i made you feel uncomfortable, you know -- of course you made her feel uncomfortable, you slammed into a booth and stuck your tongue down her throat. this is outrageous where we are today and -- >> you wonder how much talent was lost in various industries because of moments like that. >> that's exactly it, brian. on allison cammarata's excellent time hall for cnn on tipping point, i think it was gretchen
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carlson who said that. instead of worrying about the men who are going to lose their jobs now, let's go back multiple generations and find some of the women who never had a chance at a career or had their careers shortened. and god bless her for giving voice to those women, for even a moment, on a show. >> you mentioned tipping point and you wrote about this saying, talking about tipping points and defining moments, but very rarely do the moments last. >> yes. >> is that what it fells like to you now? >> i would love to see this moment last, but, first of all, in terms of this situation, i do think cbs did handle it extremely well. we have to keep the focus on the victims, right, as -- we keep talking about the guys, the guys are losing their jobs. what about the women? let's keep the focus on women. also on the collateral damage, there is a ton of collateral damage here, you think about charlie rose, who has a production company, that has given, you know, young women and men employment, what happens to them? what happens on a program like
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transparent, one of the few programs that actually was hiring transgender actresses. so there are so -- there is so much damage that continues here. i do think that, you know, everyone thought that anita hill, in 1991, would be a tipping point. and apparently not, right? so i do have some concerns about that. but, yeah, i -- i think that the larger issue here, though, and the reason we're seeing this enormous outcry right now isn't because every woman has been slammed into a booth and had a tongue shoved down her throat. it is because every woman, and i would gather that every single woman watching this program today, knows what it feels like to be interrupted, not taken seriously, her ideas not heard until they're credited to a man. and that is something that i found in the heart of my reporting for my book, that's
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what she said, was this lack of respect that sort of has been a through line and so i think one of the major issues that we're seeing is there has been this pent up frustration among women who despite all the gains that we have made, still every day a thousand tiny little things that women experience that men don't and men aren't aware of. >> we'll have you back when the book comes out. good to see you. i'm out of time. thank you, both, for being here. we got a big story coming up next. at&t versus the government. the elephant in the room is this network, cnn. we'll have the latest in the lawsuit right after this. (avo) when you have type 2 diabetes, you manage your a1c,
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two tadays, two different messages. both messages came from the trump administration. so let's try to clear this up if we can. on monday, trump's department of justice sued to block at&t's proposed takeover of cnn's parent company time warner. the court fight will take months
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unless the two sides settle. now the lawsuit sparked concern throughout the business community. it signals a new hard line approach to vertical mergers. that is not something that wall street was expecting from a gop administration. you know, rupert murdoch has been an opponent of the at&t deal, but even his wall street journal editorial board sided with at&t. they said the lawsuit misconstrues markets and undermines the rule of law. whether or not it was inspired by the white house. we'll come back to that issue, but the doj lawsuit was the first of two big moves. the next day tuesday, the trump fcc released a plan to repeal obama era net neutrality rules. that is what you would expect a gop administration to do. net neutrality advocates like the obama appointees who now have been taken over at the fcc by the gop appointees say the existing rules are needed to ensure equal access to preserve a level playing field for
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everybody on the internet. companies like at&t say these rules are not needed at all. so they are cheering what trump's fcc chair is doing. let me go back to the journal editorial board. they say he's doing a public service by rolling back internet regulation. what explains the mixed messages? david gelles is here with me, wrote about this subject, the headline, it is a tangled message from washington. what are the conclusions about why we're getting mixed signals? >> i don't know if there are conclusions yet. we have one administration, two agencies, and two very different messages about just how much power big companies like at&t should be allowed to amass. on the one hand, the department of justice saying that in fact at&t's proposed acquisition of time warner would just make it too powerful. it could stifle innovation, yield too much influence over content and companies. you have the fcc saying internet service providers like at&t
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should be allowed to wield the power they already have, more freely. and should be allowed to in fact use that muscle to potentially, you know, wield that influence more forcefully over their competitors. >> sometimes net neutrality, we hear about fast lanes and slow lanes. is that what it comes down to? >> it is not only that, it is the ability of internet service providers to also block, throttle and jack up rates on consumers and companies potentially like netflix. netflix streams its movies and tv shows to consumers, but at&t with these rules rolled back could actually say, well, if you want to do that and ensure your movies are coming as fast as you want them, you have to pay a little more. >> the idea that mixed messages, it feeds into the suggestion that the trump department of justice is trying to punish this network, cnn, for its coverage of the presidency by suing in
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court. is that what experts have suggested to you? >> there, again, there are no clear signs that that's what's happened. the chief antitrust enforcer at the department of justice has said that in fact that's not what's going on here. and yet randall stevenson in this week's new york times saying we have a suspicious timeline here. >> i was just pulling up that quote. the column for the times, i don't have any concrete evidence of interference from the white house, but there is a peculiar timeline. >> and, again, john earlier said, the trump twitter feed is in some ways the most clearest indication of his policy. and for more than a year now, he's made it very clear his displeasure with this network. >> here is what at&t ceo randall stevenson said at a press conference on the day the lawsuit was filed about this very issue. >> i do want to address the elephant in the room here. there has been a lot of reporting and speculation whether this is all about cnn.
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and frankly i don't know. but nobody should be surprised at the question keeps coming up. >> there it is, that's the issue, right? stevenson saying we don't know, but isn't the idea this court battle that at&t is going to try to prove or try to show that somehow the trump administration has interfered in the doj and that's why there is a lawsuit? >> we'll see what comes out in discovery if it gets that far. you mentioned earlier that vertical mergers haven't been challenged for decades now really. what is interesting now is we're seeing some people say that, yes, that may be the case, however, there is good reason to on its own merits consider blocking at&t, time warner, that in fact the justice department's case would have some merit, that combination of -- could stifle innovation, could raise cost for consumers, so i think though it is unprecedented in some ways, we'll see a much more nuanced
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debate, irrespective of whether or not we know if cnn is actually at the issue here. >> at&t, time warner, are the deals on hold, while this court fight progresses, meanwhile, on the net neutrality front, the fcc votes a formality, in a couple of weeks, the three commissioners, republicans will vote to repeal the regulations. >> that's right. you have democratic members of the fcc actually encouraging people to raise their voice, to stoke a debate. and yet you're right. the ship has essentially sailed. >> it is a 3-2 vote. i would be very surprised to see a sudden change here. >> i think that much is going to happen. and yet this may also go to the courts. we may see the fcc have to defend its decision in court and not only the decision to roll back the 2015 rules, passed under the obama administration, but also potentially the 2005 rules which were, of course, passed under president bush which essentially established this baseline net neutrality
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principles that big internet service providers should not block, should not throttle. >> most viewers at home sitting on their phone thinking, you know, my internet service seems fine now. what is all the fuss about? >> it may seem fine. but how many options do you have? how much choice do you have about where you get that internet service provision? the answer is probably not that much at all. we have essentially regionalized mo nop lie monopolies and that lets the big companies get to the point where net neutrality laws are even necessary. there is this school of thought that had antitrust enforcement been working as it should, had there been a meaningful and enforcement of competitive landscape of these big important companies, then today might be enough competition where we wouldn't need net neutrality. but it is very hard to put the genie back in the bottle. >> more to come. david thank you for being here. great to see you. after the break, a guest who say world renowned expert in
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basically redefined it? >> a lot of it isn't news. it been labelled for things they don't like, and it's being used again as a weapon against organizations like cnn. it's damaging the industry, the free press is what we stand for. >> tell me how to define this, this is something president trump tweeted on saturday afternoon. he tweeted at length from a website called maga pill to explain a list of his accomplishments and he said this is how the media should be reporting. he said he wished the fake news would report it this way. if you look closely at this website and the twitter feet from maga, website media even says there's anti-semitic
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content on maga pill's website. >> it's misleading, a lot of these sites are powerful, because there's a colonel of truth. when they tout is unemployment rate, it's not false, it not fake. but whale it's very soft fist ska by not looking carefully at what's happening. >> when we paint with a broad where r brush it actually confuse, 6. >> we go into detail on all these different categories. sign sign up for our nightly newsletter. it free, so sign up right now as "reliable sources".com. i'll see you right back here next week. delicious natural cheeseaking for over 100 years like kraft has,
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