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radio interview today. >> what matters is that i am ashamed of that photo. i, she is, you know, she didn't have any ability to consent. she had every right to feel violated by that photo. i have apologized to her, and i was very grateful that she accepted my apology. >> a second woman now says franken grabbed her butt during a photo op in 2010 while he was in office. but the minnesota democrat says he did not remember that particular photo, saying it's one of thousands he's taken with people over the years. >> i'm, you know, i'm someone who, you know, hugs people. i, you know, and i've learned from these, these stories that some of, in some of these
encounters, i've crossed the line for some women. >> cnn's ryan young joins us from minneapolis. tell us what else he is saying about these allegations going forward and how he plans to take responsibility. >> reporter: well, really, ana, the words that stick out to us are embarrassed and ashamed. those were the senator's words himself. everyone waiting for that 10:30 interview that will happen on tv here in the minnesota area. and then you have the interview with public radio station. there are ripples from that. people have had some reaction. hear parts of the interview, he was really frank when he was talking about some of his emotions. >> look, kathy, if you had said to me two weeks ago that, that a woman was going to say that i
had made her uncomfortable, and disrespected her and one of these ways, i would have said no. this has been a shock to me. and so, you know, i, i don't know. i can't say. you know, obviously, i've, you know, felt that that women i've taken these photos with, that some weomen have said that i crossed the line. and that, for that i'm very sorry, and any, any number is, is too many. >> reporter: ana, he really could have talked to anyone for these conversations, for this interview.
a lot of people want to hear interest this senat from this senator all across the country, when he was asked about the fact whether any other woman would come forward, he said look, if you had asked him two weeks ago he wouldn't have said anybody would come forward. but look what he said about gaining people's trust back. >> i'm just going to do my job, and i'm going to go forward. this has been ten days since this came out. i'm going to go forward. i'm going to take responsibility. i'm going to be held accountable. and i'm going to try to be productive in the way i speak about this. >> reporter: i also think it's important to note that the interviews did not happen here. he's in d.c. it will be interesting to see what the fallout will be and how people will digest this,
especially in the minnesota area and how the rest of the people in congress will deal with this over the next few days. >> so he returns to work today, less than 24 hours. what is do t what does the future look like, the near future as he heads back to capitol hill? >> reporter: well, he talks about the idea of facing the allegations and the ethics investigation many b investigation, but it doesn't sound like he'll be stepping down. >> are people giving him the benefit of the doubt in his hometown? >> reporter: there have just been a few bits and pieces of people walking by having their own opinion about it. they felt like the 18-minute interview was pretty strong. a lot of people reading the "star tribune" reacting to that, saying that he was embarrassed and ashamed. that's what people wanted to hear. there will be more reaction when he sits in front of that camera
and hear the voice and get those emotions and react to that. you know how that goes, ana. >> ryan young in minneapolis. thank you. let's turn to congressman john conyers who announced today he is stepping down from his important role on the judiciary committee. sarah gannon is with me here in new york. what are we hearing from conyers? ask >> he is denying the allegations and citing the fact that the buzzfeed story contains documents that were initially obtained by a right wing blogger. he says i deny these allegations, many of which were raised by documents reportedly paid for by a partisan alt-right blogger. i very much look forward to vin vindicating myself and my family. i believe that my presence as
ranking member on the committee would not serve these ever or thes -- efforts. >> he's stepping down in that position. he's not leaving congress. mean te meantime some eyebrows were raised over competing statements from nancy pelosi. >> you could definitely say that. there's been criticism of how she handled this, right? before he announced that he's stepping down she made a statement where she's holding back on criticism. take a look. >> we are strengthened by due process. just because someone is accused and was it one accusation? is it two? john conyers is an icon in our country. he's done a great deal to protect women and violence against women, right wing is now quoting me as praising him for his work on that and he did great work on that. but the fact is, as john reviews his case, which he knows, which
i don't. >> don't you, how is it that you don't -- >> may i finish my sentence? that he will do the right thing. >> now she says do the right thing. i believe he will do the right thing. since then we have learned from my colleague, m.j. lee, that nancy pelosi and members of the congressional black caucus were working behind the scenes to give him a graceful way of stepping down from the judiciary committee, laying the ground work for that. after that became public, and with we learned that he was stepping down, she issued a statement saying zeroed tolerance means consequences. i have asked for an investigation, and as that investigation continues, congressman conyers has agreed to step aside as a member. as a woman and mother of four daughters i take any accusation of sexual harassment very seriously. we are in a watershed moment on this issue, it is not a license for harassment.
i commend the brave women coming forward. >> lots more where this goes. president trump is back in washington as all of this unfolds. he landed a short time ago after spending thanksgiving at his private resort in florida. there he is getting off air force one. he didn't talk to reporters, but as you know he does like to share during twitter. walk us through what the president has said today about all this. >> today the president has not weighed in on the controversy surrounding al franken and representative john conyers. he has, however, weighed in on the heated is that the race in alabama, targeting roy moore's opponent, doug jones. as you know, for the past several weeks, the white house has had a full shift, initially, echoing what other republicans were saying about roy moore, that if the allegations against him are true, then he should
step down. since then, we've seen more and more republicans say that for the good of the party and the good of the country, roy moore should drop out of that race, as you heard from senators tim scott and lindsey graham today. the president has gone a very different direction, not fully endorsing him, not using the "e" word but just stopping short of that. and then when asked about
allegations about moore, saying moore denies them and leaving the door open to potentially going to alabama and campaigning on his ofba. he says the last thing we need is a pelosi puppet, and who wants to raise taxes to the sky. i endorsed luther strange in the
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jones would be bad. the president's mention of taxes, it is a huge week for tax reform. so it's interesting to see the president so far from his own party when it comes to the question of roy moore and his candidacy, ana. >> and the president will be heading to capitol hill this week. but he hasn't been tweeting necessarily about the agenda today. who is he going to be meeting with? what's his plan? >> on tuesday, the president is set to meet with republican senators, at capitol hill. it's his third time going there in a little over a month, and they're set to discuss tax reform, as you know. the senate could vote on tax reform as early as thursday. then there's another really big meeting later on on tuesday where the president is meeting with leaders from both parties. house speaker paul ryan, the senate majority leader, mitch
mcconnell as well as nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. and this meeting is a pretty big deal. as you know in september, when there was a very similar meeting like this one to discuss, financing the government and the budget and the debt ceiling, the president seenessentially sidedh democrats in deciding to punt to december. so now the government will run out of funding by december 8th and they'll need an agreement by that time, not just on funding the government but the debt ceiling, and there's all these other things on the table, a dhaka soluti daca solution. the president drew a lot of kudos by working with democrats. we'll see if the air remains bipartisan this time around as you saw earlier, he tweeted about nancy pelosi and chuck schumer in a less than positive way. >> he did indeed.
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and conservatives don't want teens pregnant at 16 and blow hards like roy moore don't help achieve those values. are democrats in office doing a better job than republicans at promoting family values? >> um, you know, i guess my bottom le bottom line is this, less about talking values and more about policies that put in place the dine of platform that enables people to live out their values. so the reason that so many conservative states, red states have higher levels of teen births, higher levels of divorce, higher levels of l prostitution, adultery, not because this stems from conservative values, it's really because you have lower investments in education in
those states and less investment in social services. so if you don't invest in family planning programs in your state you're going to result in more teen pregnancies. so i think the measure we should seek from policymakers is maybe a little less pontificating about values and little more a living those values themselves and holding their own party account willing to those standards and b, putting in place a set of standards that make it likely that we adhere to the things we believe in, which is helping people end up in committed relationships that make us all happy and leave us to be, to live fulfilling lives. >> even evangelical christians are citing moore, athey're not necessarily speaking out as
adamantly against al franken and john conyers. do you see an equivalency there? >> so you know, i think everybody is engaging in some political tabulations. and i do think that al franken's issues in particular or allegations are somewhat less grave. in the case of john conyers, we don't really know what they are. but i think it's deeply troubling that government money, taxpayer money may have been spent, $30,000, on a settlement, confidential settlement to end some charges, and i would hope that conyers would release that staff member from that agreement. but, you know, basically, i think it's problematic when each side is saying, look, your molester is worse than my
molester. that's kind of what it's coming down to, everybody is making these political calculations and saying that the other guys are worse. >> let's hear what senator testimony scot tim co scott, a republican, had to say. >> it is clear to me that the best thing roy moore can do for the cun industry moountry is mo. the denial is weak, it's got and little stronger, but it is still fairly weak. in my opinion and many in the senate, it is time for us to turn the page. because it is not about partisan politic, not about electing republicans versus democrats, this is about the character of our country. i want to be on the side of right when history writes the story. >> do you think that's how republicans in alabama feel? do they share those same feelings we've just heard
articulated? >> so i think that alabama republicans are genuinely troubled by the charges against roy moore. and i think there's also a sense of embarrassment at the way alabama time after teime has, becomes the butt of jokes, but there are a lot of alabama republicans who care deeply about judges and about aborks issues, and are weighing those issues against each other. and, you know, that, that calculus is something that happens on the democratic side as well as on the republican side. but i would also say that, you know, i hope that voters everywhere are going to think about these fundamental issues of right and wrong and also refresh th remember that the case of roy moore, he raised issues of the republican party nationwide.
they had two senate candidates, todd akin and richard murdoch. really, really made the entire republican party seem -- issues of violence. so i think that part of the concern about roy moore in washington is a recollection of the damage that todd aiken and richard murdoch did. >> thank you. we appreciate it. >> good to be with you. >> tomorrow is the deadline for jared kushner. he is supposed to turn over documents related to the russia investigation. what might investigators learn from that, and what about speculation that michael flynn might be helping the special counsel? we'll divie into that.
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jared kushner has until tomorrow to turn over documents to the senate judiciary committee. you'll recall that committee says kushner left out key e-mails on wikileaks. it comes as others face the possibility that michael flynn might be working with special counsel investigators. a source tells cnn that flynn's attorneys have now stopped sharing information with other defense attorneys involved in the probe, inclusion the president's attorneys. this could mean that flynn has agreed to cooperate, maybe make a deal of some sort.
let's bring in ben collins, asher angapa. i'm really interested to get your insight. you have experience and expertise. what do you make of this news that michael flynn has stopped sharing information? >> right, so when defense counsel are sharing information with each other, they're doing it so they can all stay on the same page. they're making sure that each person, and each of these lawyers is representing a different client. they know what everybody else is saying, what they're doing, how they're interacting with the prosecution. so when you stop sharing information it's basically saying i have a conflict of interest, because i may be going my own way, so i think it is a big signal that he is either cooperating or at least trying
to negotiate some cooperation with mueller. >> what would flynn have to offer in order to get some kind of deal? >> well, mueller clearly believes that flynn has a lot to off, because prosecutors do not make deals unless they think they can get something in return. and flynn was a very high person, all be it for a very short period of time, national security adviser, so what mueller thinks flynn can give him will allow him to go after someone higher. when you flip someone you're going up the chain. you're never going to flip someone to go down the chain. there's only so many people higher than flynn. this means they're getting much closer to the inner circle of the white house. >> the president and potential family members as well. when we talk about flynn and any possible illegal activity he may have been involved with, a lot of it involves turkey. how does that have anything to
do with russia? >> well, it's fascinating. turkey in some ways is in the same position of russia. they thought they would get what they wanted when the trump administration came in. very little has happened to fulfill that wish. on the turkey front, michael flynn was certainly, there was a lot of talk about what the conversations were about trump and turkey and policy. but the u.s. is still backing kurds, and the u.s. has done very little to help with the extradition of fethullah gulen. >> there was a little development with the president me met with turkish people and said that is going to stop, backing the kurds. >> they say actually, nothing has changed. in u.s. policy in backing syria's kurds and actually what that discussion was, which is
the turkish view of that conversation, if you look at the sourcing, there is not a sense right now at this moment that u.s. policy on theory, when it comes to syrian kurds has shifted. >> so ben, i want to play for you what trump's original campaign manager, corey lewandowski had to say about this development involving flynn. >> i don't think this goes anywhere than to michael flynn and potentially his son. but people who haven't followed the rules, people like paul manafort, rick gates, mike flynn, if they have done something wrong they should be held accountable. but that's where it ends because the president didn't collude or cooperate with russia in any way, shape or form. >> so it sounds like lewandowski is saying if flynn had something illegal going on, whatever he had going on ends with him. >> that's, that would be tricky. this guy was the national security adviser for the president of the united states
at the start of this administration. he was pushing for these sanctions with russia and met with sergei kislyak. and inthat's why he had to leav he lied about it. >> when in reality we learned think did. >> we see tomorrow, jared kushner where he has the undisclosed wikileaks e-mails that we don't know about. these would be incriminating potentially. we don't know that for a fact. these are e-mails involving wikileaks. if you put the pieces of the puzzle together here, which we haven't yet, but there's a guy out there whose job to do just that. >> robert mule ieller. >> if you put the pieces together, you'll see something that surrounds the campaign. if it gets to the middle of the campaign, then we have president trump. >> there are all of these
denials, ahsha. there seem to be a lot of russia-related contacts that he himself has failed to detail, like the meeting with the russian banker. does that concern you? >> it concerns me. i mean, even if you took it at complete face value, ana, it means he's completely incompetent. this is a person who went to nyu law school. he ought to know that when you need to turn over e-mail, when you need to fill out a back ground investigation, you need to be completely forthcoming and repeatedly, he has not. just take the e-mails, ana. the committee has asked for any e-mails that might be relevant to russia, to the individuals that they are interested in. the trump tower meeting, these
subject lines said russia/clinton, private and confidential. russia back door channel invitation. you can do a simple search and come up with those e-mails. so the fact that he's not being forthcoming is problematic. and it's surprising to me that he's still waiting for a security clearance. >> lindsey graham says president trump has a blind spot when it comes to russia, do you agree. >> >> i thii think we will see comes out. on russia there have been real splits between the u.s. and russia just in the last week, right? you had the russian foreign minister really coming out against the u.s. decision to put north korea on the state sponsors of terror list, and you also see russia really opposing a number of u.s. foreign policy decisions including on syria at the u.n. last week where there was a real direct confrontation between the united states and russia on whether to continue
chemical weapons investigations. there's a difference between the policy gaps between the two countries. >> meanwhile, we have russia making this move saying that media that operates outside of their borders are now foreign agents. >> their is is just countermeas. the u.s. has state-run media outlets in the same thing in our country. the problem is not the rts and sputniks of the world. it's this covert troll farm thing that happened last year where, you know, it seemed like the shared psychosis was going on on social media, where hillary clinton was running some sort of pedophile operation at the pizza shop. and all of that was coming, most of it, was coming from wikileaks and this amplified russian troll farm. the real worry is did the
campaign have anything to do with it, the dissemination of this stuff or getting that dirt into donald trump's t teleprompter. >> thank you all. we appreciate it. coming up, dramatic images of dueling volcanos on two separate continents. one of them forcing hundreds of thousands of people to evacuate their homes. amazing pictures. we'll talk about what this means coming in the "cnn newsroom." ♪ (drumsticks clattering) [lagale force winds,s absolute chaos out here! accumulations up to 8 inches... ...don't know if you can hear me, but [monica] what's he doing? [lance] can we get a shot of this cold front, right here. winter has arrived. whooo! hahaha
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>> you went to what people call the heel of the boot in southern italy, again, you have crossings of cultures, of religions, of traditions. across the mediterranean. >> yep. >> when you went, how did that traditional ancient sense collide with modern day living? >> well, people were living in caves into the 1950s. in caves that existed since biblical times. malaria was common. it was the shame of italy.
now, of course, people are building fancy homes in these same caves and restoring some of those old traditions. it's become like so many beautiful places, it's gone from poverty and need to sort of a playground for the rich who would like to live in a place that looks cute and authentic and rustic. but with really good plumbing. it's a very complicated place. just the differences, they're right next to each other but many languages and dialects are spoken. some of them quite ancient. some, you know, prechristian pagan rituals are still practiced and we highlight one of them. >> is that the dance that has to do with the spider? >> yes. and it's got its own, as so many parts of italy, people -- italy is an expression of an idea, it's not really a country. i mean, it's no coincidence that so many -- you go to so many
small towns in italy, there's a wall around them. because they were at war with their neighbors and there wasn't a unified italy until fairly recently. didn't really see that in -- in the south there, where they were also invaded frequently by neighbors. by the greeks. the normans. so there's that mentality as well. you know, a country that's -- a region that's used to be being invaded by foreigners all the time has a special way of doing things instinctively. it was very difficult to shoot. figuring out the difference between the reality and what we were told was the reality, who's in charge. incredibly beautiful. i mean, stark, beautiful, great food. fantastic traditional music. and we threw everything we had at it. we like to spoil ourselves by blowing out the budget. getting a lot of high-end film
equipment. we shot this on panovision equipment like a movie crew. huge. >> were you upping the ante because you were meeting with this renowned filmmaker while you were there as well, francis coppolla? >> yes, we managed to sit down with francis coppolla who moved back to the home -- the father sifd h side of his family where his family -- people who worked in the field. they were essentially peasants. and francis went back and bought the manor house of the fascist lead eer of the town in a bit o sort of -- i wouldn't say vengeance, but historical correction. the decescentdescendants of the goes back to buy the master's home, converted it to a nice hotel, a great restaurant. we sat down, ate a lot of great food, drank a lot of great wine and talked about movies. >> "anthony bourdain parts unknown" in southern italy
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heartwarming. bobbett, a north carolina native, spent $20 of his own dollars owned by panhandling apparently and bought mcclure enough gas to get on her way. touched by his good deed, she and her boyfriend started a gofund me, and their donations grew to more than $300,000. bobbitt plans to pay it forward while taking care of himself at the same time. >> i want to give a lot of it away. >> will you get a house? >> yeah. i'm definitely going to get a place to live. there won't be no brand new car, either. >> no? >> no, ma'am. >> used car? >> absolutely. >> maybe a truck? >> absolutely a truck. >> such a perfect story, right, to kick off the holiday season of giving. and a great happy ending to our show tonight. thank you for being with us. i'm ana cabrera in new york. we always appreciate your company. "anthony bourdain parts unknown" starts right now. have a great week.