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as i am sure you can imagine we are devastating and we are still processing all of this, and i will tell you right now we do not know more than what i just shared with you, but we will be covering this story as reporters, as journalists. i am sure we will learn more details in the hours and days to come and we promise we will share that with you. hoda, i mean, you know, for the moment all we can say is that we are heartbroken. i am heartbroken for matt. he is my dear, dear friend and partner and he is beloved by many people and i am heartbroken for the colleague that came forward and told her story and for the other women that have stories to tell, and we are grappling with what so many have faced these past few weeks, and how do you reconcile your love for somebody after the revelation they have behaved badly, and i don't know the answer to that. >> brian stelter joins me now.
brian, what happened? >> nbc received a sexual complaint against matt lauer on monday night. it investigated that complaint on tuesday. on tuesday night before he went to bed lauer was told he was fired and overnight savannah guthrie was woken up and told the news. and the chairman addressed this in a memo to staff. on monday night we received a complaint from a colleague about inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace at matt lauer, as a result we decided to terminate his complaint, while it's the first complaint in the 20 years he has been at nbc news, and we have reason to believe it may not have been an isolated incident. we are saddened by this turn of events and will face it together as a news organization, and do it in the transparent way.
"the new york times" and "variety" magazine had been investigati investigating this, and this dam started to crack and all the allegations against powerful men in hollywood, new york and elsewhere. we don't know the details or substance of the allegations against lauer. i think "the new york times" will be publishing a story today. it's a mystery of what nbc learned. we have no comment from lauer, and we have been reaching out to him and his representatives and he has not weighed in yet. >> i am not going to ask you about what occurred, but matt lauer hosted the macy's thanksgiving day parade on thursday. >> when i watched that broadcast, i was thinking to myself this is an awkward for lauer and his co-host, savannah
guthrie, they knew this investigation was in the works. nbc was in a very delicate situation here. they say they never received any formal complaints about lauer but they knew reporters were digging and look into his past, and they kept him on the air until tuesday morning but once the complaint was received by the hr department it was investigated on tuesday. i think it's something that we see is new. in the past eight weeks of the phenomenon, the tipping point phenomenon, the allegations against powerful men in many industries, we have not seen a company try to get out ahead of it the way we did today with nbc. >> i want to talk about that point. joining me now is cnn legal analyst, areeva martin. what does it tell you that nbc news acted as quickly as it did based on this report that it got, this complaint from a colleague about inappropriate sexual behavior? what does it tell you about the nature of the claim? >> it tells me two things. the allegation must be incredibly serious, this goes
beyond maybe a casual comment, maybe even beyond some kind of touching, and something very serious in terms of the actions that were alleged in that complaint. and it also tells me that there was corroboration. they were able to corroborate the allegations that were made, so these just weren't statements made by one person but in their review of the statements, they were able to talk to other coworkers, other evidence came forward that substantiated the claims that were made. it's a very big deal for a network to fire its most powerful on-air talent and arguably matt lauer is just that or was just that for nbc, so that tells me the allegations had to be serious and support for the allegations. >> it's also possible that he admitted to whatever the woman said happened or cooperated it himself, we just don't know. for a company to make a decision like this, are there legal
implications? does it do it because of the law and legal jeopardy or because of public relations or both? >> i think it's both, john. i think the company knows, as we have seen with other companies, there are possible lawsuits and these lawsuits can be very expensive, and you can be looking at a seven-figure settlement in jury verdicts if the claim can be substantiated and proven in court. companies know they face legal jeopardy and there are civil lawsuits to follow, and they also know from the barrage of claims that have come forward that this is a public relations nightmare. there can be call for advertisers to stop advertising on particular programs, and viewers to stop watching a particular show because one of its main anchors has been accused of sexual harassment. the company has to juggle a couple things. the legal liability, plus the public relations nightmare. i want to point out one thing, companies don't have to wait for women to come forward. companies have an affirmative
obligation to keep the workplace safe, so if there are innuendos, if there's gossip and talk in the workplace that somebody has been engaged in inappropriate conduct that company has a duty to launch its own internal investigation so we don't have to wait -- or companies don't have to wait for women, in this case, we believe a woman to come forward, and they should be launching their own investigations. >> stand by because i have more to ask you. but joining us, alisyn camerota of "new day." there's a tv side to this and there's a societal side to this, and society, as much as we love tv, is more important here. and those at the top of the industry, which matt lauer is, falls for something like this, it tells you something, alisyn. does this tell you now in this moment that women do feel
empowered to come forward and tell their stories? >> absolutely. there's a ground swell of women coming forward. i would rewind the clock back to roger ailes and what happened a year and a half ago. i feel today the same way i did that day, shocked but not surprised. sometimes you hear about these things, and sometimes you hear there might have been impropriety of some kind but then when it happens it's seismic. what happens when somebody as big as harvey weinstein, or matt lauer, it does make a ground swell of women that have been harboring secrets feel, you know, maybe i can tell somebody and maybe i can come forward. >> still, i think matt lauer is different from all of those people who are huge in and of their own right. >> yeah, i do too. he's a household name. everything. i can't remember, the time flies so fast, but you did the lead
report for cbs news the morning charlie rose left. >> it was a week ago we covered charlie rose bg let go from cbs news. we launched an internal investigation as soon as the story broke out. we as reporters and news divisions have our own investigative units. we treat this story like any other story but it differs because it's somebody we love, and savannah addressed it this morning, and gayle and norah addressed it last week, and feeling for the victims and the women coming forward as well, and i covered the charlie rose story for evening news and for "cbs this morning", and i will be covering this news story about matt lauer tonight for "evening news" as well. we in this industry have to treat these stories the way we would treat any other story. >> despite what nancy pelosi
said about john conyers, it doesn't matter if they made a lot of money or if they were at the top of their industry, if they engaged in inappropriate behavior, that's what matters. we don't know what matt lauer did, but as we are now in the moment, how do we distinguish between different types of bad behavior? there's harvey weinstein, what he was accused of, which may land him in jail, and on the other side of the spectrum, there's al franken, the touching of bottoms, and george h.w. bush, touching bought kwruplz in the photos. >> i think it's important that we not try to parse this too thinly. this conduct in the workplace is unlawful. it has been unlawful since 1964, the civil rights act which made sexual harassment unlawful. we have to, i think, start with
that, that whether it's inappropriate touching or groping or in some cases it's actually forced intercourse, this is bad behavior and unlawful behavior. when we get to the consequences, of course employers have to weigh does this require discipli disciplinary action such as suspension or does it require the ultimate disciplinary action which is to terminate, and each has to look at their review of the conduct. what is so empowering for the women, and primarily these are women who have been victims, is there is power in numbers. for the first time in probably 25 years since anita hill are feeling the courage and strength to come forward and tell their stories. i think the workplace is going to change as a result of this. >> i think the murky place that you are talking about, i don't think the touching of somebody's
butt is murky, i think the murky place you are alluding to is there are consensual and romantic relationships, and what happens when one of those ends and it's the woman who is then sent off somewhere or marginalized or her career hits the dead end and the man's care career thrives. we should talk about that situation and be addressed, because then women feel agrieved, and what are the rules for that? ? >> that's a corporate thing rather than a legal thing. >> do all of the employees really know and are they let in on the policies? >> i want to bring up something that is the elephant in the room here, and for all the discussion and for as much as we are in the moment, the president of the united states has been accused by 13 women, 12 named, one
anonymous of various forms of sexual misconduct, and now we are seeing consequences format lauer and charlie rose and harvey weinstein and others, yet, you know, not for donald j. trump, and i will not show them right now because we don't need to see them, but donald trump is tweeting about matt lauer this morning. >> i am proud as a cbs news employee that we sent a message with charlie rose let go, that everybody is replaceable and nobody gets a pass even if it's your lead anchor, and i am sure that applies to cnn, and nbc proved that, and it sends a message when the president of the united states not only doesn't acknowledge the discussion being had across the country, and what a pivotal time it is to be a president when you have seen a sea change, and he can be participating and leading the discussion, and instead we are reading reports he is denying what he even admitted to with the "access hollywood" tape, so it seems surreal that the leader of the country does
not seem to be in lockstep with at least corporate america at this point. >> there's an entire school of thought that because this happened with donald trump and so many accusers came forward and he was elected president that that's one of the things that created the ground weswell and empowered women because they were tired of that. >> roy moore could win in alabama. don't forget about that. thank you for the discussion. north korea taunting president trump. president trump sending out anti-muslim videos from a far right figure in britain. it's causing major waves there and here as well. what message is he sending? plus a vote on tax reform could be as soon as the end of the week. do republicans have the votes? why do you do it? it's not just a pay check, you actually like what you do.
all right. new this morning, the president ft united states sent out some flat out anti-muslim videos. the videos were originally posted by a british far right group, and it shows attacks carried out by muslims, and phil black joins me now from london. phil, first explain who originally posted these videos, and what they show and the significance? >> the group is called britain first. if you talk to members of this group they will tell you they are patriots, that they are proud of britain, what they believe to be its traditional people, values and heritage and they believe all of these things are under threat by, among other things, immigration, but notably
the muslim faith. they fear, they say, the islam faction of britain, and this is essentially their political manifesto, and they contested elections on this, and never been elected but more than that they are a self-styled resistance group, and this is where they get really controversial, take to the streets of mixed cultural area, and muslim occupied neighborhoods, and confront and sometimes very violent and provocative moments. they are controversial here, and exist outside of the political mainstream. the deputy leader of this group, which is who president trump has been retweeting has been convicted of hate crimes and harassing people on the streets for religious reasons. all of this, it's a pretty big deal politically in the country because they are considered to be so controversial.
critics will tell you they are racist, sean yo phobic. this puts the british prime minister, theresa may, in a difficult position. she does not want to offend president trump, and she has been courting a constructive relationship with the president, and she knows this sort of action by the american president will be deeply unpopular here in this country and it's going to be a difficult balance for her to strike as she confronts this publicly and we are waiting for a comment from her or another member of the british government. >> joining me, ben ferguson, and a cnn political calm tater and former chief of staff to nancy
pelosi. i think we will hear from leaders in britain soon on this. huh deem, when you saw the president send these videos out, what did you think? >> it took me a second to realize some of the videos were old, and violence should be condemned anytime, anyplace, anywhere, by anybody. why did the president send these tweets today? it's something he has to answer. i don't know what he was thinking this morning, very early this morning, actually, when he sent them. the message that he was perhaps sending was, you know, a political message. i hope not but we will have to see what he says, and he moved on with other tweets afterwards. >> there's no question, the woman that sends the videos out, she's anti-muslim and posts the videos. what does president trump get out of that?
>> i don't know if it was indosii endorsing her, but many don't like to see the extremist in the community. i look at it. are you offended by the person that tweeted them out or offended by the video? i think the president, if i would have seen these videos and i would have seen them on my feed and watched them i probably would have tweeted that out and said to myself this is something the world needs to see. we know isis has been throwing gays, and lesbian -- >> i will say for the president of the united states, hate crimes in the united states are at a record high. his own justice department put out a note, including a rise in anti-semitic attacks and anti-muslim attacks. >> i don't think this encourages any type of attacks in this country. i think it's exposing the reality that you have a group of muslim extremist in the world that are committing atrocities we should all be trying to stop.
the president is not advocating, he is saying if you are an extremist muslim and you are throwing people off rooftops because of their sexual orientation or religion, we will find you. why would you not this exposed? i understand people are focusing on who tweeted it. there are videos that americans and people need to see. this is happening in real time around the world right now and we need to go after the people and that's clearly what the president is saying is these are people that we should go after. >> is that the case? >> i agree with you. but let me be clear, all violence needs to be condemned. the president is the leader of all americans, and a time will come when he has to show this leadership, and condemn all violence, whether it's, you know, muslim violence or christian violence, doesn't matter what it is, violence must be condemned. >> there are reports that came
out overnight, mostly from the "new york times" and the "washington post" had a little also, where the president is now, again, opening questioning whether the "access hollywood" tape is real. that, of course, the tape where he brags about being able to sexually assault a woman and get away with it because he's a person in power, and he's questioning whether that's real, and he's questioning whether former president barack obama's birth certificate is real. he's saying it behind closed doors to some senators and aides. these are -- i will explain why later, these are lies, and it's not just me saying that it's the 2016 version of donald trump who says that also. i think we have the sound here playing what he said about the "access hollywood" tape in 2016. let's play that. >> i said it. i was wrong and i apologize. >> he also has the 2016 version of what he said about president
trump's birth certificate. let's play that. >> president barack obama was born in the united states, period. >> so ben ferguson, either he is lying now by questioning whether these things are true or lying in 2016 when he said that out loud. >> i don't know who all he has been saying this to, but many of my friends that work at the white house, he is not saying these things to them. let's me finish because it's important. >> there are senators that said -- >> there are a lot of senators that don't like the president of the united states of america. i don't think he's having long-term conversations about u.s. senators about things he already admitted he said. he said the thing on the bus, and he clearly said the president is a u.s. citizen referring to barack obama. for me that's the story. i am not surprised there are people in congress that he had conversations with that very well may want to undermine the
president by saying this could be fake, and i'm sorry i don't believe them. >> i want to get your take on this. is there another conspiracy at work here? >> it must be 2017, so that's another reason to -- for the president to say whether he said what he said or he didn't say what he said. we have a lot of problems facing our country at this time. to be talking about the "access hollywood" tape whether the president has said, you know, it's his voice or not his voice, ignores the fact that the president yesterday in five words said put a halt to major negotiations that were taking place between the republicans and democrats to fund our government, and that's what we are dealing with today. we should be talking about where do we go from here to fund the government to make sure the supplemental is taken care of -- >> tell the democrats to show up. >> hang on. i will say we will talk much more about that coming forward. guys, it has been great to have
you on. again, great to have you here. >> thank you so much. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell saying getting democrats to back the tax plan is like the a rubik's cube. we are moments away from the opening bell. stocks set to open near record highs, and the dow is up more than 20% this year. let's get started. show of hands. who wants customizable options chains? ones that make it fast and easy to analyze and take action? how about some of the lowest options fees? are you raising your hand? good then it's time for power e*trade
a big day for the president. in just a few hours he heads for missouri and will talk about his tax plan there. the president thinks he has momentum after republicans cleared a big hurdle in the senate and a floor tpoet could happen in the senate this week. suzanne malveaux. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell will go ahead and move a motion to move it to the full floor, perhaps as early as today. this after a flury of activity, and of course, president trump hear on capitol hill meeting with senate republicans yesterday, and he charmed and made promises to several of the naysayers of the tax plan, and the real challenge here is to change those promises into real legislative language and perhaps
action. who are the folks who have concerns? it's the same cast of characters we have been talking about for the last week or so. let's start off with senators -- this is ron johnson and steve danes, both talking about small businesses, a better tax rate. that was something that was discussed. senator susan collins was told that the local and state tax deductions would be back in play, that you would have a property tax deduction that would be capped at $10,000, something she was concerned about. the other thing she was also concerned about and shared with other senators, the repeal of the obamacare individual mandate, and she was told by the president there was possibly legislation that could help with the subsidies as well as shoring up the marketplace for obamacare, and that was something that was very important to her, and then you have the deficit hawks, you have senator bob corker and jeff
flake who are looking at the cost of it, $1.5 trillion, and saying this cannot add to the federal deficit. there's a trigger in place and if you don't see the economic growth you are expecting, then the tax breaks would actually disappear and be reversed and then senator marco rubio talking about the child tax credit, and he wants it fully refundable and the wildcard, senator john mccain, not sure whether he will sign off on it, and we will see how the process goes and any kind of bipartisanship, which is something he's looking at. >> joining us to discuss this, bill nelson of florida. senator thank you for being with us. looks like republicans cleared a major hurdle and got it through committee, and looks like some of the senators that were wavering moved to a yes vote on the tax plan. do you assume at this point the bill will pass the senate? >> no, because i think that
there are three or four republican senators in play, and i think one of those is susan collins. >> i want to talk about susan collins right now, because let me just read you the headline in the "tampa bay times," and it says bill nelson could ina inadvertently help the tax bill, and they are saying that because of funding high-risk pools, and she says she might get a vote on that she might be able to vote on the tax plan. >> susan and i have been working the way you are supposed to in a bipartisan manner to strengthen the current law. that's one of them that she says she wants a promise that, in fact, it will get passed. that's a good thing. if she is trading that off for
accepting the so-called individual mandate, which in essence is encouraging people or they pay a penalty to buy insurance in the pool, if she trades that off that's not an even trade. why? because if you don't have young and healthy people, an incentive to go in and buy the insurance, the people insured then are older and they are sicker, and as a result the premiums go way up. so this is the argument that i am making to susan, a former insurance commissioner in maine, me, a former elected insurance commissioner in florida, that if you drive that pool down, shrinking to the point at which it is older and sicker, the premiums of necessity go through the roof, and that can't be offset by all of these other
good things that susan and i are doing in our bipartisan legislation. >> you are making that argument to her, and all i am saying is she said she is more optimistic she will be able to vote for the overall plan because of the bill you are working on with her, and the murray might get get a vote. i want to ask you about the meeting that did not take plac , chuck schumer and nancy pelosi skipped the meeting because he mean tweeted them. do you think it was the right call not showing up? >> didn't you learn years ago that the way to have friends and influence people is to be kind, respectful, reach out to them, don't be a know it all? isn't that the way to ingender a way to get people to come together in a bipartisan
premise? >> look, i absolutely learned that, and i hope we all did. i also learned two wrongs don't make a right, but i'm not sure which one yapplies here? >> well, at the end of the day, between now and christmas, the minority leader in both the senate and the house have to be brought in because big things have to happen, namely a funding bill. you can't get that through on a 50/50 vote. you have got to have 60 votes to advance it. so if i were the white house, i would be calculating beyond the immediate and looking at the big picture of how you do the best to keep the government functioning in the most efficient way. >> do you encourage your leader, chuck schumer, to cut a deal with the president on this? >> eventually it will have to be to keep the government open.
was supposed to be a wake reup call for our government?sh people all across the country lost their savings, their pensions and their jobs. i'm tom steyer and it turned out that the system that had benefited people like me who are well off, was, in fact, stacked against everyone else. it's why i left my investment firm and resolved to use my savings for the public good. but here we are nine years later and this president and the republican congress are making a bad situation even worse. they won't tell you that their so called "tax reform" plan is really for the wealthy and big corporations, while hurting the middle class. it blows up the deficit
experts agree that it travelled plenty far to hit anywhere in the united states. including washington, including new york. cnn's will ripley joins us from seoul. give us the latest? >> president trump just tweeted saying just spoke to xi jinping of china concerning the provocative actions of north korea, additional major sanctions will be imposed on north korea today. the situation will be handled. perhaps that's what president trump meant when he said they will handle the north korean nuclear program by slapping additional sanctions on what is already the most heavily sanctioned country on earth, and the unification minister said before the missile launch they expect north korea to finalize its nuclear program next year and the u.s. said perhaps by early next year, meaning weeks
possibly from now. north korea could have in its arsenal a missile that can strike the mainland u.s., and we know this one they tested was the most powerful and most dangerous yet, and travelled to an altitude 2,800 miles up and came off the coast of japan, a trajectory that did not trigger the response from the u.s., but john, sanctions have not worked so far and it seems as if the trump administration feels that is their solution, sanctions and diplomatic pressure even as you heard senator lindsay graham talk about the possibility of war if this provocative behavior continues. >> the past presidents and president trump has been to keep north korea from developing a nuclear weapon and a missile that can hit the united states, which it has now. so the question for the west is what do you do about it?
as far as the north korea side, will ripley, what is next for them? >> i was in pyongyang a month ago, and they said they should take the threat seriously, and trump threatened to destroy north korea, and north korea said they wanted to prove to the united states they had the capability, and a nuclear test above ground, the first kind of atmospheric nuclear devastation the world has not seen in 40 years, since china did it in 1980, and if that were to happen that would be terrifying for people around the world, and the north koreans told me they feel completely justified in taking whatever steps they deem necessary to develop their nuclear program because they point to the u.s. and russia and china and all the other nuclear powers that conducted these testses, and they are entitled to do it just the same. >> thank you, will.
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a bus or crossing the street. cnn's diane gallagher joins us now with the very latest. diane? >> yeah, john, we're talking 51 days of complete terror in this tampa neighborhood. four murders and more than 5,000 tips police received, but it came down to just that one, from a manager at the mcdonald's where howell emanuel mcdonaldson worked. he asked her to hold that gun that he had brought in, because he needed to go to a payday loan facility. the manager thought something was wrong. alerted police, and from that point, they started to put together that they found their suspect. this 24-year-old, john, was not on their radar, we're told. they were not looking for this individual. he's not someone that they knew of at that time. he's a former basketball player at st. john's university. in fact, they said when he appeared in the court this morning, for an appearance, he did not admit to anything, we're told. and so right now, the question we have, that many still have,
including the mayor of tampa is, why would a 24-year-old man shoot four people at random in a place where, at this point, they don't know of any real connection he has to. >> so how did authorities link the suspect to the crimes, diana? >> so john, we're waiting on more information from police, but the mayor of tampa told us this morning that it was a combination of ballistics, his cell phone pinging to that area, at the time of the killings, and his clothing. so, we're still waiting for a little more information from police. we are expecting to hear from them within the next hour or so. but, according to the mayor, they were able to connect him pretty quickly, it sounds like, through several different ways. >> diane gallagher, covering this story for us. thanks very much. appreciate it. a big shock in network television. mornings changed in a big way. the question is, how much will our society change now, this after matt lauer fired by nbc
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all right, good morning, everyone. john berman here. a seismic tremor in morning television with an impact that will reach way beyond television. "today" show co-anchor, matt lauer, fired by nbc news. just moments before the show went to air this morning, nbc announced it made the move for what the network called inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace. the remaining anchors seemed just as stunned ened as the re us. >> all we can say is that we are heartbroken. i'm heartbroken for matt. he is my dear, dear friend, and my partner, and he is beloved by many, many people here.
and i'm heartbroken for the brave colleague who came forward to tell her story and any other women who have their own stories to tell. and we are grappling with a dilemma that so many people have sf faced these past few weeks, how do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly? and i don't know the answer to that. >> all right. cnn's chief media correspondent, host of "reliable sources," brian stelter joins me now. brian, what do we know? what are the facts here? >> we know that on monday night, a complaint was made to nbc news, and within 24 hours, lauer was fired. he has a contract worth tens of millions of dollars a year. that's because the "today" show makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year for nbc. but the network clearly found convincing evidence that something improper had happened and that's why it took this action. here's part of the memo from nbc news chairman, andy lack, who's meeting with staff, as we speak. on monday night, we received a detailed complaint from a co