tv Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer CNN November 29, 2017 3:00pm-4:00pm PST
capable of attacking the whole u.s. mainland. hasty retweets. mr. trump shares images. the white house offering stunning reaction to the retweets as he comments about the conspiracy theories he refuses to let go. nbc abruptly fires one of its biggest executives, matt lauer, after reports of inappropriate sexual behavior on the job. tonight a new report has specific allegations made by multiple women. cnn has learned that the special counsel has delayed grand jury testimony related to the michael flynn. is it a sign that he is cooperating with robert mueller? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer.
you're in "the situation room." breaking news tonight. urgent diplomacy and ugly insults in the north korea crisis as the security counsel holds security talks, president trump is mocking kim jong-un as little rocket man and sick puppy. this just hours after north korea's most dangerous missile yet. pyongyang now claims to have the ability to attack the entire u.s. mainland, referring to him as the old lunatic trump. he is offering sanctions as punishment. also tonight, as mr. trump is rallying in missouri, he retweeted a series of m anti-muslim hate videos from
britain. they are condemning his sharing of the videos. the white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders is defending the president saying it doesn't matter if the violent videos are real or fake. and new allegations of sexual misconduct matt lauer emerging today after the "today" show host was abruptly fired by nbc network. they said they took immediate action after accusations of inappropriate behavior during the 2011 sochi games which a allegedly continued after the games. it is reported that multiple women are now accusing lauer. a member of the judiciary and budget committees, and our correspondents and specialists are also standing by. let's go to our senior correspondent jeff zeleny.
the president steered totally clear of the controversy over his shocking retweets. >> good evening, wolf. the president traveled to the suburbs of st. louis today to promote his tax plan, and that is what many republicans in washington wish he would stick to. that message was largely overshadowed today when he used his presidential megaphone to promote the message of an anti-muslim message from a british hate group. president trump on the road tonight selling the republican tax plan. >> my accountants are going crazy right now. it's all right. hey, look, i'm president. i don't care. >> reporter: the president insisting the wealthiest americans like him won't benefit from the tax bill moving through congress despite evidence to the contrary. >> actually, the rich people actually don't like me, which is sort of interesting. you know what, i like that trade. >> reporter: but the president's visit to missouri overshadowed
by another twitter controversy, this time sparked by another incident after he shared videos of muslims committing acts of violence. he sent them to frandsen after he called britain first. it is unclear whether the videos were real or staged. a muslim destroys a statue of the virgin mary. sarah huckabee sanders defended the president, saying it didn't matter if the anti-muslim videos were real. >> whether it's a real video, the threat is real. >> reporter: frandsen, who has been found guilty in the u.k. of harassment, reveled in the attention. god bless you, president trump, she tweeted. and, thank god for trump. that's why we love him. a rebuke came from prime minister teresa may of britain.
it is wrong for the president to have done this. then added, britain first seeks to divide communities through their use of hateful narratives. sarah huckabee sanders said he is just trying to reach the goal he is facing. it comes only a week before the third version of president trump's travel ban faces scrutiny once again in the courts. his previous ban has been called unconstitutional for targeting muslims. a congressman says -- >> it is risky in light of things going on in the world right now, the things we're trying to accomplish and the threats and adversaries we face, i think it's important that our leader, our commander in chief, set the kind of tone that's
measured. >> reporter: all this as the nuclear threat from north korea intensified a day after the regime fired a ballistic missile that flew higher and longer than ever before. after belittling kim jong-un earlier this year -- >> we can't have mad men out there shooting rockets all over the place. >> reporter: the president responded today with restraint, saying on twitter, additional major sanctions will be imposed on north korea today. the situation will be handled. but it was unclear just how it would be handled. on stage in missouri, he revived his attack on the north korean dictator. >> little rocket man, rocket fuel for the american economy. he is a sick puppy. >> reporter: but today it was a tale of two presidents, with mr. trump standing before christmas trees in the suburbs of st. louis, not mentioning his tweets that stirred controversy all around the world. >> i will tell you this in a nonbragado cc ir
nonbragadocious way. there has never been a president that has accomplished what we have accomplished. >> the tax plan could change as it moves through the senate. it still has to be reconciled with the house version of that. republicans are feeling more optimistic about that. but wolf, every senator we talk to say they wish the president would simply stay on message. this is the third time he's traveled out into the country to sell that plan. it's been about seven weeks since he did so. that message overshadowed today amidst those tweets. >> president trump privately is still embracing some conspiracy theories, even some new ones. >> indeed, wolf. we all knew that president trump, then candidate trump has fatsd this for years. the first one was about barack obama, that he was not born in the u.s. and was not a u.s. sit.
the president is not talking about this but more questions are also coming up about that "access hollywood" tape that has been revived in all this conversation with sexual harrassment and inappropriate conduct. he said he didn't say those words on that tape. what is rattling the president so? some reporters and supporters of the president quietly wonder if it's the russian investigation that causes him to be so agitated about so many things. >> jeff zeleny at the white house. now initial reaction to that powerful missile launch at the united nations tonight. nikki haley is warning that it could lead to war. if so, kim jong-un will be, utterly destroyed, her words.
joining me from seoul. you've been there 17 times in the past few years. what are you now learning? >> i can tell you that those comments from ambassador nikki haley in just the last half hour are likely to -- >> i think we just lost our connection with seoul, south korea. we're going to try to reconnect with will ripley. but he did file this piece just a little while ago. >> reporter: north korea pushing president trump closer than ever to the most agonizing policy choice facing his administration. try to stop kim jong-un's menacing nuclear advance with maximum pressure or military muscle. in south korea, a precision missile strike deal, trying to prove u.s. allied forces have
thement. it is the most dangerous intercontinental ballistic missile yet. ment machine goes higher. theoretically many putting within new york and washington. releasing the first images of the overnight launch and their supreme leader celebrating with top officers. north korean state media, kim jong-un declared the pride that we have finally realized the great historic cause of completing this state nuclear force. also claiming the 23rd missile test of the trump presidency reconfirm the safety of the t world. >> it is a situation we will
handle. >> president trump just tweeted to president xi. just spoke to president xi jinping of china concerning the provocative actions of north korea. additional major sanctions will be imposed on north korea today. but he's given no indication that he will do anything to destabilize north korea's government. even sending a gift to the north korean leader. diplomacy for the. >> a threat first made by pmd, reiterated by a question.
>> translator: the foreign minister is very well aware of the intentions of our supreme leader, so i think you should take his words literally. >> analysts have accused north korea of bluster, saying the nation risks absolute destruction if it goes to war. >> if we have to go to war to stop this, we will. >> reporter: each provocation turns president trump closer to one of the biggest decisions. or take action with potentially unthinkab unthinkable. >> tonight, no immediate contact with the u.n. even though any dakt wi contact with the regime would be utterly destroyed.
north korea threatened aboveground nuclear detonation, and calling on china to cut off the inflow of oil toll and they will gladly take that chance. tensions erupting, wolf. >> let's talk a little bit more about all of this md. senator, thanks for joining us. >> nice to be here. >> i want to talk about the retweeting of president trump, an insight to violence of muslims. do you agree with that asse assessme assessment? >> imagine for a minute that he
held the office that was held by franklin delano roosevelt, and that the prime minister held. think of the determination and the courage of those people. now think of an american president who is retweeting what are probably false, and certainly racist, tweets from a foreign extremist group drawing a rebuke. the way our leadership has been degraded with what we saw in the days of world war 55 is really fathom tabl. that was from john winthrop all the way up through ronald
reagan. now we have a president that seems to be deeply out of his own head or deeply into his own twitter feed, and it's paying almost knoll attention to the responsibilities of america as an international. >> i spoke with congressman from colorado in the last hour. he dismisses these retweets. what does that say to the president? >> i think the president ought to be accountable for his personal tweets. i think if you begin to take things that the president of his own relationship, that's not a good place to be necessarily either. usually we're taught to walk softly, or carry a manner if you
might think. if we disregard what the president of the united states said, that's not good for us. that's not our white house. >> the retweets the president made is real because the president is forwarding real threats. how concerning is that to you? >> for a long time, america's credibili credibility is that we make sure we give out accurate and real information. so giving out false information, giving out fake information and then saying that's okay because the general issue is still an important one, again, it degrades american leadership in very, very significant ways. remember the embarrassing episode with colin powell in the
run-up to the iraq war when he was given false information. that was embarrassing then, and this is embarrassing now. >> the "new york times" is reporting that president trump continues to question the authenticity of president obama obama's. it's widespread voter fraud. he's also hinting that the ak spels -- is it inappropriate for the president to put together these kind of conspiracy theories? >> not only is it concerning, wolf, it's a sign that something is going rong in his forecast. if he is surrounding himself with conspiracy theories, that is pretty bad.
but in spite of his falling poll numbers, falling approval, the investigation closing in on him, he's starting to turn into a. there are imaginary things that tie him to this very incident and the decision making that can tie him to somebody in that mindset is not consistent with what the responsibilities of the president of the united states entail. >> senator, i need you to stand by. there is more we need to discuss. there are other developments breaking right now. we'll resume our interview right after this. this... that's the new man, huh? yup. getting kinda' close to my ride. wow... now, that's how you make a first impression. they're going to love you... that's ford, america's best-selling brand. hurry in today for 0% financing for 72 months across the full line of ford cars, trucks and suvs!
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we're back with senator sheldon at the white house. we're following more breaking news. cnn has learned that the special counsel robert mueller has just postponed grand jury testimony linked to his investigation of president trump's fired national security adviser michael flynn. this comes amid growing allegations that he may be part of a plea deal. you're part of a growing issue in long island. does this mean a plea deal might be in the works? >> i think so. i thought general flynn was already cooperating because they had him dead to rights in the
kinley statement. that was probably a prison offense, and if you're a retired united states general, you would rather cooperate than go to prison. so i'm mildly surprised that he's not cooperating already, but this would be consistent with finalizing a cooperation agreement or a plea agreement. >> senator, diane feinstein, she's the top democrat on the judiciary committee, you're on that committee as well, is asking for more documents from trump campaign official carter page and documents and interviews with sam clovis, willie ferris, j.d. gordon on contact with russia and pro-russia ukranian groups. what new information merits these requests? >> this is, i think, a bit delayed. as you'll recall we tried to work in a bipartisan fashion with chairman grassley in order to try to get a full committee effort going, and senator grassley declined to cooperate
with us, so senator grassley -- senator feinstein has had to go off on her own with these requests. unfortunately, that puts us a little bit behind the 8-ball in terms of time. but they do tend to focus in on an early trump deliverable to the russians, which was getting a republican party's tough position on ukraine out of the party platform. and if that was an early deliverable to the russians, then that's worth exploring further. in general the judiciary committee needs to look at how we can, with legislation, pre sent these type of future attacks and understand the justice that may have taken place. so we're working towards that again. we have been a bit hobled by the inability of the majority to find a way to work it out. >> senator grassley is chairman
of the judiciary committee. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. good to be with you all. just ahead, matt lauer of the "today" show fired after allegations of sexual misconduct. new allegations are being made against the "today" show host. we follow the harsh reality of harassment and how dangerous the president's behavior as he retweets anti-muslim videos and embraces conspiracy theories. okay, well, it's also that counts, too. no, the network. is inside the phone? around the phone. awarded network ever. count on it. here you go. as the network it's on. so give the best unlimited for four lines. [vo] quickbooks introduces rodney.
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there are now new reports out this hour from variety and the "new york times" detailing additional allegations by multiple women. and this morning nbc announced it fired lauer after a detailed complaint received monday night about inappropriate sexual behavior that took place during the 2014 sochi olympic games and afterward. lauer's "today" show co-author savannah guthrie broke the news on air. >> all we can say is we are heartbroken. i am heartbroken by my dear friend matt who is a friend and colleague here. and i'm heartbroken for the woman who broke her story and
many other women who have stories to tell. we are grappling with a dilemma so many women have faced this past few weeks. how do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation they have behaved badly? and i don't know the answer to that. >> tonight nbc is responding to reports against additional networks, the network saying, we can say unequivocally before monday night nbc was never made aware about any of matt lauer's conduct. let's talk about matt lauer with members of congress. we're joined by cnn correspondent sara gann and dana bash. he was fired tuesday after finding out monday night. there are other allegations made as well. there are other news organizations report ing on it s
well. >> there are other news reporting agencies. this woman and her lawyer went to nbc's headquarters in manhattan monday night, sat down with them for several hours and talked about these allegations, and clearly provided enough evidence that led nbc news to investigate further and then decided to fire him within 30 hours. >> is lauer now bracing for mora could you seers to come forward? >> the "new york times" reported that at least two more women have come forward to nbc news to say that they also had allegations, and we're expecting more stories to drop, because as we know, there were several other news allegations that were looking into this. >> sara, oouyou've been doing at of reporting in congress, and we know members of congress have been facing similar accusations, but there are some nondisclosure agreements preventing some victims from coming forward. what did you learn about that? >> they definitely are keeping women from coming forward, and they are the women brave enough to come forward before we started talking about this.
they pressed through this a arduous process. to get justice, they had to sign a nondisclosure agreement. one woman said she wished she could join the movement. she wished she could tell her story but she can't because she signed this document. lawyers who have handled these cases on the hill and the private sector say the ones on capitol hill are very broad, much more restrictive to the victim than in any other cases you might see in the private sector. for example, they can't even talk to their therapist in many of these cases which really restricts them from healing. contrast that with what the accused can talk about, we saw at least one instance this week where congressman john conyers was defending his case, the victim can't talk, but he's getting his story out there. >> what hinders this in
congress? >> the whole process which was intended in the '90s to address for the first time allegations in the wake of the bob packwood scandal, the scandal about the senator from oregon who, of course, was accused of sexual harrassment and then ended up resigning because of it. but the way that the process is, it's -- especially in today's day and age, it's mind-blowing. first you have to have counseling, then you have to go for mediation, and then you can face your accuser. yeah, look at all of that. i mean, this is, for somebody who is saying that she or he was -- you know, there was sexual misconduct, there was sexual assault, there was sexual -- i mean, it's ridiculous what they have to go through. i think it really does speak to the fact that members of congress historically have
been -- have felt that they were above the laws that they are making. it's just the bottom line. and, more importantly, congress has been a boys' club. and i really believe with my heart of hearts the fact that there are more women there, republicans and democrats, and it is of course the women right now -- jackie speier of california who are pushing to change this process, which is arduous and ridiculous to make it more in line with the private sector, it's because there are more women. >> yeah, it's a serious problem, guys. thanks very much for that. we're going to continue to watch this story develop. also ahead, president trump reportedly reviving speculation about president obama's birthplace, illegal voting and whether the infamous "access hollywood" tape is real. plus, investigators delayed testimony linked to fired national security adviser michael flynn. is it a sign a plea deal is
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bill, ignoring the controversy that's a huge controversy over the anti-muslim videos he retweeted to his 4 million followers earlier today. dana, this is causing a lot of outrage right now, the retweet of these videos from a far right hate group. even the britain prime minister is strongly condemning what the president has done. what's going to be the reaction? >> well, we're seeing it. it's global. and look, i think i said this just a couple days ago, that it's important to not be immune to this just because the president likes to send errant tweets. this takes the cake, because both in terms of the content, the content meaning anti-muslim, and the source, meaning really anti-muslim, bigoted, racist woman not just accused but convicted of a hate crime in great britain against a woman walking with her muz -- a muslim woman walking with her four
children, it's really outrageous. and the notion that we should just ignore this and focus on the fact that the white house says the president just wants to talk about the problem of immigration, it just makes no sense at all when you're talking about the president of the united states. i mean, remember what george w. bush, who certainly had his problems during his presidency, what he did after 9/11. one of the first things he did, he went to a mosque to make the exact opposite point than this president did during his tweets today. >> and sarah huckabee sanders, as you know, defended the president's retweets saying it doesn't really matter inf those anti-muslim videos were real, the threat was real. so that kind of response from the official press secretary for the president of the united states is also causing a lot of outrage. >> well, and you could see why, wolf, because essentially she's suggesting that the president's
official statements, which his tweets are, according to the white house, don't matter, aren't meant to be taken literally, and that's just ridiculous on its face. it's the president of the united states we're talking about, not some random person on the street tweeting this, so it does matter. but sarah sanders excused her rationalization for what the president did and what we should take that to mean. it's really trying to rationalize something that was unplanned. it was spontaneous by the president. this wasn't some grand strategy that the white house planned out, and we see this time and again from this white house and this president. he tweets something out unexpectedly. his staff has to scramble to respond and explain it, and there really isn't an explanation that makes a lot of sense. >> i don't think she thought about the legal implications of what she said. forget what i said on the campaign trail, what i'm trying to do in terms of i mmigration s not a muslim ban.
wolf, actually your words do count. when you talk about banning muslims on the campaign trail, then you institute these kind of regulations -- sarah huckabee sanders said earlier, the president is retweeting anti-muslim videos. that's a muslim ban. if i was looking at some allegations from the trump team, i would say, well, he said it again. he wants to ban muslims from the united states and that's illegal. >> he has said, islam hates us. so there is a contrast going on, but what does it do to the united states who is trying to promote leadership with friendly countries? a muslim wleader was here, and
what does it say to him with these muslim tweets sent around the nation? >> i think it moves us backward. in 2016, we litigated what people think of when they think of a president? is it someone who is more like a regular person, someone more reserved? no one, though, said they wanted a president who is indiscrimina indiscriminate, but that's what we have here. sort of going indiscriminately top of mind with unresearched retweets to draw a conversation that wii bee've been having sin 9/11. i think that's why he's been sit sized by so many people and his direct counterpart on the world stage. >> yeah, the prime minister of britain. phil, let me tell you of additional concern that's being brendan cox, the husband
murder murdered. >> spoke to anderson cooler earlier today. i want you to listen to what he said. >> what was going through your mind when you read the president's retweet from this morning? >> i think we probably got used to a degree of absurdity of outrageous retweets and tweets from the president. he was retweeting a felon, someone who wassing being. it is a hate-driven organization on the extreme far right of british politics. this is like the ku klux klan.
it is not right for the president to be retweeting, to provide a microphone for those voices. no matter what your political persuasion in the u.k., i think it's being shocked by that. >> what is your argument to what he said? >> this is painful. our country is dealt with this for 150 years. we went against bigotry of blacks. we discriminated against world war ii where you refuse to get t give to this country. what the president has done on a country that is built to accept bigotry. he is big enough to say, bigt y bigtsry. that's out now in bigotry and what he's done is give allegations for people who say, he's right. i hate muslims.
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we are following multiple breaking stories and jim is now reporting, i'll be precise. a source close to the white house says president trump u has questioned the politics of his decision to final hi acknowledge barack obama was born in the united states as he did late in the campaign last year. the source said shortly after he made that statement, finally acknowledging that president obama was born in the united states. the president trump told aides that they would have done bet ner polls had he continue to stand his dwrouground on the bi certificate issue. he is not walking away from that. >> i truly with my heart of hearts believe he really believes that. the thing about that denounceuation of the conspiracy theory he was peddling for years
is that remember it was pretty halfhearted. he held this big press conference where he was or wupt going to do it and had like 200 people speaking before he got to say it, then he said i believe that president obama was born in the united states. but it's all hillary clinton's fault. so it wasn't exactly a real mea culpa when he did it. and i think that when he said it's all hillary clinton's fault, he was trying to send a a signal to the people who were his supporters that he's still with him. with them. on this conspiracy theory. >> jim is also reporting as far as those reports of "the new york times," that the president trump is doubting whether that is in fact his voice on that access hollywood video. two white house officials are telling jim acosta there have been discussions about the story behind the scenes. one aide described whispers among officials, apparently hard
president trump questioning the authenticity of the tape. >> it's amazing that a president who is so obsessed with fake news has such a loose relationship with the truth ultimately and he does seem to have this habit of not only using these conspiracy theorys in the first place for political reasons, perhaps they start out as a strategy, but ultimately believing them himself. and it's problematic. because the president makes decisions based on facts that are presented to him. and if he believes to use a kellyanne conway term, to use a set of facts that weren't based in reality, that could have real life consequences. >> get your reaction. >> i think it works with one asterisk. if you want to maintain 36, 38% support and you're not worried about getting over a bump in two, three years, you say every time i make one of these comments, those 36-38 who say the swamp is against me, the swamp is wrong, trying to cripple me.
i want tax reform. i want to give you money back. it supports a narrative that says there's a whole universe of people in that horrible beltway city of washington, d.c. coming out to get me. so i do believe there's a strategy. he's saying this was he knows people are going to come back. it's those bad boys again. they're here on cnn, coming after him, trying to cripple him. >> except when you're the president of the united states, you're supposed to be the president of everybody and you're supposed to be trying to expand beyond the base that elected you u and trying to you know, reach out. not every president, democrat or republican, tried successfully or tried really earnarnestly, b that's the goal of the office. >> there's been speculation, speculation only, that he is so concerned apparently, the president, the russia investigation. robert mueller's investigation and that michael flynn may be copping a plea, maybe cooperating. we've seen all those reports.
that's fuelling some of this behavior in resent days. >> i think the president is sort of flooding the zone. there's so much going on. the tax bill fight. the russia investigation. the president's tweets. that it may well be he thinks just mud by diing the water so he in the media, the american public don't just focus on one thing like the possibility that is starting to bubble up, that general flynn might be copping a plea, doesn't, we don't all focus on that. and that perhaps he thinks helps mem him in the long run to sort of string this whole controversy. >> you think a plea deal with michael flynn, the president's former national security adviser may be in the work sns. >> we've got to couple this with the fact we saw a break in the relationship with the flynn team and white house lawyers. you put this together, there's a game of chicken. the special counsel said that judgment day is coming up.
are you going to plea and finally somebody on the flynn team said okay, we'll break. >> because we also learned today that the grand jury testimony has delayed and that seems to be an indication that maybe something -- >> that's right. i was couple wg the break between the legal team from flynn and the white house. i think the flynn team said this game's over. we got to cop a plea. >> the national security adviser for less than a month, but he was a key player during the campaign. including during the transition. >> not just a key player during the campaign, he was at the president's side non-stop. he was his airplane buddy. for you know, the last several months of the campaign. so he was present for a lot. and if he is working on a deal with the special counsel's office, preet, former u.s. attorney fired by the president, one of our analysts said to me the other day, in his experience
in doing that kind of thing, if you are on the, if you are michael flynn in this scenario, you are required to give every single thing that you know no matter what and if there's any indication you're not, no deal. >> there's a dramatic developments unfolding. we'll watch it every step of the way. thanks very much. that's it for me. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. >> "outfront" next, president trump embrace iing the obama birther conspiracy again. now questioning whether he should have acknowledged that obama was born in the united states. this as democrats and republicans are asking serious questions about his competency for office. breaking news in the russia investigation at this hour. we're learning the identity of roger stone's intermediary with wikileaks. we'll tell you who it is, why it matters so much. just breaking that news this moment and more break iing news. new allegations at this hour about matt lauer. one of his